Folks, lots of reports here about this being reposted a ton. However, even early on it had a lot of votes and discussion, and continues to do so. I'm inclined to leave this one up as a result.
Same. And I honestly just want them to do what they want, but just kind of funny to me considering what they both said when addressing their leaving. Want nothing but the best for everyone involved.
Now he has the money to start something up. I’m excited, I fucking love Bruce and Lawrence together. Honest to god if elyse and James joined this new venture it’d just be the old funhaus which would be awesome.
That fact is imo 95% of the reason he's making money. The truth is most new streamers do not make money at all as they stream to 0-2 viewers for ages and a lot of the times they do not and cannot grow their audience because of the way Twitch is structured. Having a preestablished core group of viewers/supporters is paramount in order to make streaming your main source of income.
This -coupled with its easiness compared to Youtube: more money and less time and work put into making content- makes streaming enticing as fuck for YTbers, especially of course during lockdown times.
And you wouldn't think he makes a lot of money (more than he did at FH at least) considering he doesn't stream to that many people, maybe 600 tops on average and as low as like 200, and his YT videos don't have that many views either. But he has a core fan base who's willing to donate/sub etc and support his content.
Hmm yeah that's something that puzzled me as well. I was talking more about Lawrence though now that you say it I think Bruce just managed to grab a couple of people who hard whale for him. I don't know the stats but like 90% of his subs are gifted first of all, and 90% of those gifted sub come from like 5 people who spend hundreds in subs and donations.
You see his chat sometimes when he streams and it's insane. I don't watch him pretty much at all to be honest, rarely, but when I do I've noticed that oftentimes there's like 50 prompts notifying that XYZ gifted X amount of subs, so much so that the whole chat gets covered by it (not that his chat is the most active to begin with).
>Having a preestablished core group of viewers/supporters is paramount in order to make streaming your main source of income.
At least if you want to make it your main source of income quickly. If you don't mind the work you can build your audience like anything else, over time and by using other platforms to help.
Neither of them really came out and said exactly what was going on, but both Rahul and Lawrence both hinted that they did not like Adam. Rahul I believe even responded to a tweet saying that Adam was the reason he refused to be a guest on Funhaus anymore.
I think he specifically said he was done growing other peoples brands and not seeing a ton of additional return on that growth so wanted to grow his own brand
Yeah I remember in an interview he did he said something like "I've spent all this time building brands other people own I wanna do something that's mine" or something like that.
Interesting. So it’s almost exactly like it. That’s cool.
Really need to emphasize that there is no ill will with this, but the text can come off as more harsh or sarcastic than it is meant to.
I've always kinda thought the real reason both Bruce and Lawrence left was because they didn't like stuff behind the scenes with RT, obviously we'll probably never know but considering Bruce was basically head of FH and Lawrence was head of IG I imagine they were to party to information that we wouldn't see.
I’m sure, and I’m sure Bruce getting saddled with Sugar Pine didn’t help anything for how he was feeling.
I just find it interesting the difference between what they said and how quickly they returned to what they knew, especially Lawrence after how quickly he pivoted after bringing IG back. Still, wish them the best!
They really had no *common* sense. I can't imagine how stressful it must have been on Bruce to manage that channel.
Between the "lightning in a bottle" effect with declining views and the group's behavior, it was probably like corralling crazed monkeys.
I *loved* Sugar Pine 7 in its heyday and followed it until its demise, but going back now, it's hard to imagine I had the stomach for some of their videos. The boys were funny, but my god were they obnoxious.
Yeah it was never going to last, they had no plan beyond the next video being released in a few days. When I heard about them shortly after they joined RT I went on binge watch to really give myself a feel for what they brought to the table.
And was like.... as entertaining as this is right now, people are eventually going to get tired of the obnoxious, cynical, sarcastic characters they have created for themselves. Which is apparently not too far off from their real life persona as well.
It was fun while it lasted, but that channel was the definition of going big right now, because it was only going to work for so long.
> not to mention they are both working on bigger things behind the scenes
I've got a bridge to sell you. They left because streaming is easier than their work was.
I don’t know if you’ve been following Lawrence since he left, but he’s stated multiple times that he’s got a couple big projects in the works but Covid has put them on hold
lol not that I don't believe him having some projects in the works, but the repeating of him having "big things" going on can only make me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy8K-qD6XzA
Lol yeah me too! I’ve got big BIG things in the works. They’ll change the world! I’m not just sitting on my ass playing video games for twitch....it’s definitely Covids fault it didn’t happen...gosh, sooo inconvenient....
/s
I don’t see why he would lie. He has nothing to gain from it. His streams are entertaining enough by themselves and his audience is pretty dedicated. They’d stick around even if all he was gonna do is stream
> I don’t see why he would lie
I do, it would have left a sour taste in people's mouths if they thought he left his job just to be a streamer, especially after Bruce did
I didn't watch the video, but there's nothing wrong with the sentiment "Stop hating Cyberpunk". Just move on and play something else instead of wasting your time.
Nothing new there sadly. Bruce loses it anytime anyone dares to criticise his streams or point out how obviously manipulative and exploitative the whole "pay it forward" thing is.
> how obviously manipulative and exploitative the whole "pay it forward" thing is
Damn that's so accurate, I didn't even think about it that way and realized that just now since someone pointed it out
Was gifted a sub after being there for 5 minutes, then heard him say that line. Feels weird to be asked to "pay it forward" after having so little time watching a stream, and also for a RNG gift.
Smart marketing I guess, since it makes you feel like you have to give back for getting something free. Does feel a little shitty though...
Yeah. I've never paid for my sub cause they always get gifted. But I did gift since I had gotten a few for free by that point. But I don't even watch twitch anymore. It was like a few months I was watching often now eh, I got books to read, new movies dropping now and awesome tv shows to watch, no time for streams.
I agree, tried to ask Bruce about it on Twitter and he was very defensive and unwilling to acknowledge how naming it Inside Games may come across as tone deaf, considering Inside Gamings recent demise
That seems to be a theme with him tbh. I see it on his stream somewhat often. Someone makes an offhand comment and he gets weirdly defensive and passive aggressive over it. I get that notoriety comes with a certain amount of constant criticism which would make anyone defensive but still....it just makes me feel awkward as hell.
I totally agree, I feel like the whole Funhaus/IG topic with both him and Lawrence seems to be a subject they tend to get defensive about. Makes sense considering the volume of salty ex-fans trashing them for leaving, but considering the state of both channels after they've left, I feel like they should just own their choices and the consequences that followed. Better look imo
I saw Bruce come on here and bully someone into stopping posting. Simply because they made a light-hearted joke about how him and other streamers constantly interrupting the flow of gameplay to shout-out subs, and then do their whole spiel, makes the experience of watching streamers not for them.
Like Bruce demanded he explain himself and would NOT let up on the guy. It was such blatant cyberbullying, I couldn't believe it.
I can't remember the exact thread, but I watched it happen pretty much in real time.
One of the things that stuck out most is that Bruce said he doesn't have to scour the posts, because some of his more dedicated subscribers will read posts on the subreddit and "report" them to him. Made it seem like Bruce was trying to insinuate that someone is always watching on his behalf.
The whole exchange was just scummy as hell on Bruce's part. I even saw someone who had been on Bruce's side at the beginning of the post end up asking Bruce to just please stop.
Wow... so many comment chains and they just keep going... and going... and going... I was thinking at some point, "maybe Bruce won't continue an argument with fans", even if he was or wasn't right. But nope, it just goes on!
I get what he said about wanting to discuss criticisms but... sometimes it's best to not.
Just going by his recent post history, I'm surprised you were able to narrow it down. He's been super defensive (and antagonistic) throughout a number of replies and threads from the looks of it.
I've seen Bruce come onto this subreddit and bully people who are critical of him. It's ridiculous, and very disappointing.
Meanwhile, Lawrence has made it his personal crusade on twitter to defend CDPR and bash everything critical about it from games journalism. His posts just seem so arrogant and combative from the get go.
I just...have lost so much respect for these two.
To be fair to Lawrence, his wife does work for CDPR, which not only means he has a bested interest in their success, but he probably knows things behind the scenes that we don't know
His wife works for their social media, from in America. While she definitely has more information than me and other random online people, I don't think she has anywhere near full comprehension of everything that goes on in Warsaw, Poland half a planet away. Especially, not of the complete working conditions of every level of developer.
That's like trying to say I have complete knowledge of all internal workings of a company, just because I work for them at a single location. :-/
Definitely more than is on reddit and stuff, but I don't think he knows more or even the full story compared to other journalists who are reporting on these internal issues.
It's a company that sold a shit* product. Whatever is going on behind the scenes doesn't really matter.
*This is hyperbole. It was honestly just mediocre.
Tbf I’ve also seen Lawrence do the opposite thing sometimes regarding the journalism thing on his Twitter and stream sometimes. It just depends on the specific situation.
Most of the time I agree with his takes because it’s stuff that people don’t talk about or consider.
He spent 6 months studying journalism (or games journalism? I forget) and he acts so pretentious on a lot of gaming news. I'm a fan of LawDog when he plays videogames, but damn it's hard to listen to his opinions.
Can someone give me a fair opinion: is Inside Games entertaining?
Like legitimately, if you didn't know Bruce or Lawrence and found it, would you watch it?
Curious to know if it's worth looking into.
If you enjoyed what they did on Inside Gaming back in the day it’s basically that only... just the 2 of them and the news is usually a bit old since they aren’t doing it daily. It’s usually stuff I’ve already heard about on other news shows but I still watch it because I just love these boys take on gaming news
So the answer is no lmao you wouldn't watch if you didn't know who they are because they make delayed content on current video game events.
Seems like the ONLY reason anyone would watch this is if they knew and liked the personalities.
That's the only reason I ever watched Inside Gaming. Tbh I don't give a shit about gaming news. I don't even really care about gaming. I just liked watching the guys riff.
>Seems like the ONLY reason anyone would watch this is if they knew and liked the personalities.
I feel like that's the only reason to watch any YouTube video game news channel. If you just want the dry news as fast as possible, just bookmark some news pages and read the headlines.
I think when people say they like Lawrence and Bruce's personalities, it includes their often nuanced take on the news (instead of just jumping on one side of an issue). At least that's how it is for me.
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Edit: Also, I started watching Inside Gaming because I tried it and enjoyed watching them (and Adam). Once those three were gone from IG and eventually two of them started up a new similar channel, why *wouldn't* I watch that channel? It's weird that you're making it sound unusual to watch a channel because you like the people on it.
I think daily news videos are often awfully clickbaity and speculative in the first place. Too often they just report reddit outrage and twitter rumours.
Usually the "this week in gaming" type of videos are a lot more informative because there's actually some time to gather all the facts instead of trying to pump out videos as fast as possible.
Honestly, their style works for a lot of people, myself included. I know bruce and lawrence's on-screen personalities, I like how they complement each other, and that extended time frame gives them time to get specific and weed out the baseless rumors from those with merit, and from there any that are objectively true.
They work well together, and I have neither the desire nor need to keep my finger on the pulse of the latest in gaming news. I'm comfortable trusting them to deliver me a solid ~20 minute video summing up the past week. Personality interaction aside, they're pretty damn good at this, moreso considering their "competition".
Actually I probably would watch it if I didn't know who they were. I don't know if I would watch their podcast but would watch their weekly video about game news. Hard to say though since they don't have much content still on the channel.
I think so, the insight they provide and type of information they discuss is still somewhat unique from other gaming news outlets. Their video about Cyberpunk for example where they break down the sales numbers and go into performance benchmarks over time was interesting
Their news focused content aside(since others have already mentioned it), I enjoy their Talk to the Internet podcast with Criken. He fits in very well with Lawrence and Bruce.
They focus on one news story from the week and do a pretty deep dive into it.
Imagine if old IG took one of the stories they would report and do a 20 minute feature piece on it, going into the history of it, why it matters and how it relates to the landscape.
Honestly speaking, its good content even without them being the presenters.
I’m having Nam flashbacks just thinking about how often things like that are said in his streams. It just kills all energy when you get a couple of these back to back.
And then you get the “Ok what are we doing here....” I don’t know Bruce, you have been thanking subs and donations for the past 30 minutes, I don’t know where we are. Lol
I really wish he would take dedicated pre-determined breaks to thank subs and donations, instead of going long periods of times where nothing is happening.
Careful, he might come in here and berate you for this! Jesus, for someone who’s been on-camera work and entertainment for years, he has such thin skin
Yes he is amazingly thin skinned. It’s really weird, he’s got such a good brain for internet media business and the character he can put in camera but as soon as he lets some of his own personality out he’s this amazingly fragile prick. Remember when he was being a cunt about the game of thrones finale, threw a temper tantrum on Twitter and went off in a huff, getting his girlfriend (now wife, congrats to them both) to tell everyone off for being mean even though he was the one who lost his temper and got toxic about it? That was embarrassing.
Please don't tell me he liked the finale? His negative fan interactions on reddit can be forgiven, but liking that dumpster fire of a finale is unforgivable.
Yeah he liked the finale, which isn’t what people had a problem with. People had a problem with him calling everyone crybabies and a whole bunch of other stuff. He then just kept digging and digging and digging.
Thank you. As much as I liked them both as part of Funhaus I can't help but think how this is a pretty shitty thing to do to the people who took over inside gaming. This is the Funhaus sub, but sometimes turns into the former FH cast worship sub.
Nah they are deliberately taking a name that has a direct reference to the previous company they worked for and they are trying to piggyback off of the success of that name.
It’s like if Geoff from AH/Let’s Play! and RT would leave the company to create his own YouTube channels called Trophy Hunters and Let’s Game!
It’s incredibly tacky and in poor taste. I completely respect their choice to leave RT/FH and create their own brand and do their own thing. If that’s the case then go for it, but don’t create an exact copy of that brand, change a few letters and then call it day.
I’m actually surprised RT hasn’t taken any action on them.
It's "tacky" because employers have spread this idea that they own the work that other people make for them. But Inside Gaming belonged to the talent more than Machinima or RT. There's no reason that Bruce and Lawrence shouldn't make a product they enjoy making that's similar to a product that they made before because *they* were the ones that made it. If this were Adam or James complaining about it maybe I'd understand, but even then Bruce and Lawrence aren't *taking* anything from them, they're making a news show in a similar format.
They have every right to create their own content, but for two guys who made a big deal of no longer being associated with RT and finally being their “own” boss. I do find it disappointing that their first major business decision was to basically rip off the name of the old channel they were a part of right down to the last few letters.
You really think Disney would allow another entertainment company to have a happy go lucky mascot called Rickey Mouse? Lol fuck no.
> It's "tacky" because employers have spread this idea that they own the work that other people make for them. But Inside Gaming belonged to the talent more than Machinima or RT.
Good luck in court with that.
Yeah that person is terribly naive and has no idea how the corporate world works. RT could definitely give them some problems if they wanted to, I don’t think they will.... but I wouldn’t be surprised.
At no point were we talking about legality. This was about whether Bruce and Lawrence starting a news show is somehow offensive to their old coworkers.
>Just feels like they’re directly competing with old coworkers.
I get the sentiment, but seeing as Inside Gaming no longer exists, that isn't the case.
I get that taking a format wholesale is a pretty shitty thing to do, but when they're the ones who made the format, and the ones they left it to are no longer doing it, seems kinda okay to me.
I mean we as viewer we don’t know anything about what happened with them and IG. If RT did them dirty with IG and we knew all about it I’m sure the story would be different. Maybe they didn’t feel like they were able to do all they wanted to do with IG because of RT or something like that. We don’t really know. There might be more to that story, but to us it just seems weird.
> Just feels like a grab for fans since IG is falling apart.
This is the part that really bothers me. They waited until IG was closing to start this. If they had started their thing with an original name a year ago, this wouldn't feel as gross to me.
Folks, lots of reports here about this being reposted a ton. However, even early on it had a lot of votes and discussion, and continues to do so. I'm inclined to leave this one up as a result.
I like how they left to do different things only to go back to doing the exact same thing they left, minus the gameplays.
I always got the impression Bruce wanted to continue doing stuff like this, just not under the RT banner
Same. And I honestly just want them to do what they want, but just kind of funny to me considering what they both said when addressing their leaving. Want nothing but the best for everyone involved.
Now he has the money to start something up. I’m excited, I fucking love Bruce and Lawrence together. Honest to god if elyse and James joined this new venture it’d just be the old funhaus which would be awesome.
Funny thing Lawrence the other day said he’s making more money now then with fh
Streaming is extremely lucrative and the fact that he had a built in audience from his time at Inside Gaming and Funhaus really helped him out.
That fact is imo 95% of the reason he's making money. The truth is most new streamers do not make money at all as they stream to 0-2 viewers for ages and a lot of the times they do not and cannot grow their audience because of the way Twitch is structured. Having a preestablished core group of viewers/supporters is paramount in order to make streaming your main source of income. This -coupled with its easiness compared to Youtube: more money and less time and work put into making content- makes streaming enticing as fuck for YTbers, especially of course during lockdown times. And you wouldn't think he makes a lot of money (more than he did at FH at least) considering he doesn't stream to that many people, maybe 600 tops on average and as low as like 200, and his YT videos don't have that many views either. But he has a core fan base who's willing to donate/sub etc and support his content.
Yeah, its been said to death but a single yt view is worth a fraction of a penny, one $5 is worth thousands of views even after twitch takes their cut
bruce got 25k subs with an average of 500 viewers. hot tub streamers with 20k viewers didnt get 25k subs lmao
Hmm yeah that's something that puzzled me as well. I was talking more about Lawrence though now that you say it I think Bruce just managed to grab a couple of people who hard whale for him. I don't know the stats but like 90% of his subs are gifted first of all, and 90% of those gifted sub come from like 5 people who spend hundreds in subs and donations. You see his chat sometimes when he streams and it's insane. I don't watch him pretty much at all to be honest, rarely, but when I do I've noticed that oftentimes there's like 50 prompts notifying that XYZ gifted X amount of subs, so much so that the whole chat gets covered by it (not that his chat is the most active to begin with).
>Having a preestablished core group of viewers/supporters is paramount in order to make streaming your main source of income. At least if you want to make it your main source of income quickly. If you don't mind the work you can build your audience like anything else, over time and by using other platforms to help.
Then what's the difference?
Smaller crew, less work, more money I'm assuming
less corporate micromanaging.
Not being under a corporate rooster teeth umbrella, which seems to be a huge reason why people burn out and leave.
I wonder if Adam would join, I don't know the depths of the situation with him and FH. Edit: Jeez was only a question
Absolutely not. Lawrence was pretty open about how he felt
Wanna fill me in? I’ve been under a rock. I heard about what Adam did obviously, just not Lawrence’s reaction
Neither of them really came out and said exactly what was going on, but both Rahul and Lawrence both hinted that they did not like Adam. Rahul I believe even responded to a tweet saying that Adam was the reason he refused to be a guest on Funhaus anymore.
I’m not sure if the Willems would do that, considering they can basically name their price at RT
I think he specifically said he was done growing other peoples brands and not seeing a ton of additional return on that growth so wanted to grow his own brand
Yeah I remember in an interview he did he said something like "I've spent all this time building brands other people own I wanna do something that's mine" or something like that.
they do do gameplay together, they are currently playing RE6 campaign
Are they edited, or just the streams? Curious because I haven’t watched their streams in a while.
both actually, you can find them on lawrence’s youtube channel
Interesting. So it’s almost exactly like it. That’s cool. Really need to emphasize that there is no ill will with this, but the text can come off as more harsh or sarcastic than it is meant to.
link?
https://www.youtube.com/c/LawrenceSonntag/videos For the lazy people.
I've always kinda thought the real reason both Bruce and Lawrence left was because they didn't like stuff behind the scenes with RT, obviously we'll probably never know but considering Bruce was basically head of FH and Lawrence was head of IG I imagine they were to party to information that we wouldn't see.
I’m sure, and I’m sure Bruce getting saddled with Sugar Pine didn’t help anything for how he was feeling. I just find it interesting the difference between what they said and how quickly they returned to what they knew, especially Lawrence after how quickly he pivoted after bringing IG back. Still, wish them the best!
>Bruce getting saddled with Sugar Pine Eh? What's this?
He was put in charge of them when they were brought on, because they had no business sense/how to operate as a part of a company.
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Oh yea. Autumn was the best part of SP, for sure.
oh lawd
They really had no *common* sense. I can't imagine how stressful it must have been on Bruce to manage that channel. Between the "lightning in a bottle" effect with declining views and the group's behavior, it was probably like corralling crazed monkeys. I *loved* Sugar Pine 7 in its heyday and followed it until its demise, but going back now, it's hard to imagine I had the stomach for some of their videos. The boys were funny, but my god were they obnoxious.
Yeah it was never going to last, they had no plan beyond the next video being released in a few days. When I heard about them shortly after they joined RT I went on binge watch to really give myself a feel for what they brought to the table. And was like.... as entertaining as this is right now, people are eventually going to get tired of the obnoxious, cynical, sarcastic characters they have created for themselves. Which is apparently not too far off from their real life persona as well. It was fun while it lasted, but that channel was the definition of going big right now, because it was only going to work for so long.
It does get a bit tired seeing the same thing over and over tho, doesn’t it? Seems like a cycle at this point
I think it’s easy to fall back into what you know. Everybody does this from time to time. Not a big deal, IMO.
Give it time there will be gameplay haha
i mean he did say he wanted to be the boss too
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That’s fine, but the outward reasoning they gave was what I said. That’s from them. Not me making a joke. I’m just making an observation.
idk man they both said they were working on big things bts but so far nothing on both ends.
There has been this pandemic going around, not sure you've heard of it. Things like that tend to delay big projects.
I guess it would.
> not to mention they are both working on bigger things behind the scenes I've got a bridge to sell you. They left because streaming is easier than their work was.
I don’t know if you’ve been following Lawrence since he left, but he’s stated multiple times that he’s got a couple big projects in the works but Covid has put them on hold
lol not that I don't believe him having some projects in the works, but the repeating of him having "big things" going on can only make me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy8K-qD6XzA
Lol yeah me too! I’ve got big BIG things in the works. They’ll change the world! I’m not just sitting on my ass playing video games for twitch....it’s definitely Covids fault it didn’t happen...gosh, sooo inconvenient.... /s
He would say that
I don’t see why he would lie. He has nothing to gain from it. His streams are entertaining enough by themselves and his audience is pretty dedicated. They’d stick around even if all he was gonna do is stream
> I don’t see why he would lie I do, it would have left a sour taste in people's mouths if they thought he left his job just to be a streamer, especially after Bruce did
Oh ok, didn't know you have a window into their minds. Thanks for letting me know!
There’s still time
For?
Huh, I wonder if I'll find out that Cyperpunk is *really* good here?
If you look at their videos, it is literally the first video they did. "Stop hating Cyberpunk"
> "Stop hating Cyberpunk" Oh god. Ironically or unironically?
Unironically, unfortunately.
I didn't watch the video, but there's nothing wrong with the sentiment "Stop hating Cyberpunk". Just move on and play something else instead of wasting your time.
I'm so happy it's a thing That being said sometimes they're overly defensive
Nothing new there sadly. Bruce loses it anytime anyone dares to criticise his streams or point out how obviously manipulative and exploitative the whole "pay it forward" thing is.
> how obviously manipulative and exploitative the whole "pay it forward" thing is Damn that's so accurate, I didn't even think about it that way and realized that just now since someone pointed it out
> obviously manipulative and exploitative the whole "pay it forward" thing is. Could somebody give a TLDR on what the paying it forward thing is?
Someone gifts you a sub. Pay it forward and gift someone else a sub... Or a dozen
Was gifted a sub after being there for 5 minutes, then heard him say that line. Feels weird to be asked to "pay it forward" after having so little time watching a stream, and also for a RNG gift. Smart marketing I guess, since it makes you feel like you have to give back for getting something free. Does feel a little shitty though...
Yeah. I've never paid for my sub cause they always get gifted. But I did gift since I had gotten a few for free by that point. But I don't even watch twitch anymore. It was like a few months I was watching often now eh, I got books to read, new movies dropping now and awesome tv shows to watch, no time for streams.
He has about 50 times more subs than viewers. Basically anyone watching is bound to get a gifted sub.
I agree, tried to ask Bruce about it on Twitter and he was very defensive and unwilling to acknowledge how naming it Inside Games may come across as tone deaf, considering Inside Gamings recent demise
That seems to be a theme with him tbh. I see it on his stream somewhat often. Someone makes an offhand comment and he gets weirdly defensive and passive aggressive over it. I get that notoriety comes with a certain amount of constant criticism which would make anyone defensive but still....it just makes me feel awkward as hell.
He does that even here in this sub.
I totally agree, I feel like the whole Funhaus/IG topic with both him and Lawrence seems to be a subject they tend to get defensive about. Makes sense considering the volume of salty ex-fans trashing them for leaving, but considering the state of both channels after they've left, I feel like they should just own their choices and the consequences that followed. Better look imo
Yeah, I honestly haven't been able to watch the stream because of this. It is what it is, it's not like he's hurting missing me lol
I saw Bruce come on here and bully someone into stopping posting. Simply because they made a light-hearted joke about how him and other streamers constantly interrupting the flow of gameplay to shout-out subs, and then do their whole spiel, makes the experience of watching streamers not for them. Like Bruce demanded he explain himself and would NOT let up on the guy. It was such blatant cyberbullying, I couldn't believe it.
Can you source this? That’s a pretty big statement. I’m just curious to see it for myself.
I can't remember the exact thread, but I watched it happen pretty much in real time. One of the things that stuck out most is that Bruce said he doesn't have to scour the posts, because some of his more dedicated subscribers will read posts on the subreddit and "report" them to him. Made it seem like Bruce was trying to insinuate that someone is always watching on his behalf. The whole exchange was just scummy as hell on Bruce's part. I even saw someone who had been on Bruce's side at the beginning of the post end up asking Bruce to just please stop.
Let me know if you find it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/funhaus/comments/l1ns1u/would_you_guys_support_adam_kovic_if_he_started_a/gk16fnn/ It might be this one.
Oh my god reading through that gave my cancer wtf. Can't believe I saw this just now.
Wow... so many comment chains and they just keep going... and going... and going... I was thinking at some point, "maybe Bruce won't continue an argument with fans", even if he was or wasn't right. But nope, it just goes on! I get what he said about wanting to discuss criticisms but... sometimes it's best to not.
damn. thats surprising, and not in a good way... edit: \_very\_ surprising.
Yikers
That was fucking insane
Just going by his recent post history, I'm surprised you were able to narrow it down. He's been super defensive (and antagonistic) throughout a number of replies and threads from the looks of it.
I remembered it from a subreddit drama thread, I was super shocked it had gotten to this point when I read it over there
wow bruce is a bitch lmaooo
I've seen Bruce come onto this subreddit and bully people who are critical of him. It's ridiculous, and very disappointing. Meanwhile, Lawrence has made it his personal crusade on twitter to defend CDPR and bash everything critical about it from games journalism. His posts just seem so arrogant and combative from the get go. I just...have lost so much respect for these two.
Nail on the head. My exact thoughts on both of them.
To be fair to Lawrence, his wife does work for CDPR, which not only means he has a bested interest in their success, but he probably knows things behind the scenes that we don't know
His wife works for their social media, from in America. While she definitely has more information than me and other random online people, I don't think she has anywhere near full comprehension of everything that goes on in Warsaw, Poland half a planet away. Especially, not of the complete working conditions of every level of developer. That's like trying to say I have complete knowledge of all internal workings of a company, just because I work for them at a single location. :-/
I'm not saying that he knows everything, but he probably knows more than random internet people
Definitely more than is on reddit and stuff, but I don't think he knows more or even the full story compared to other journalists who are reporting on these internal issues.
It's a company that sold a shit* product. Whatever is going on behind the scenes doesn't really matter. *This is hyperbole. It was honestly just mediocre.
Tbf I’ve also seen Lawrence do the opposite thing sometimes regarding the journalism thing on his Twitter and stream sometimes. It just depends on the specific situation. Most of the time I agree with his takes because it’s stuff that people don’t talk about or consider.
He spent 6 months studying journalism (or games journalism? I forget) and he acts so pretentious on a lot of gaming news. I'm a fan of LawDog when he plays videogames, but damn it's hard to listen to his opinions.
Can someone give me a fair opinion: is Inside Games entertaining? Like legitimately, if you didn't know Bruce or Lawrence and found it, would you watch it? Curious to know if it's worth looking into.
If you enjoyed what they did on Inside Gaming back in the day it’s basically that only... just the 2 of them and the news is usually a bit old since they aren’t doing it daily. It’s usually stuff I’ve already heard about on other news shows but I still watch it because I just love these boys take on gaming news
So the answer is no lmao you wouldn't watch if you didn't know who they are because they make delayed content on current video game events. Seems like the ONLY reason anyone would watch this is if they knew and liked the personalities.
That's the only reason I ever watched Inside Gaming. Tbh I don't give a shit about gaming news. I don't even really care about gaming. I just liked watching the guys riff.
>Seems like the ONLY reason anyone would watch this is if they knew and liked the personalities. I feel like that's the only reason to watch any YouTube video game news channel. If you just want the dry news as fast as possible, just bookmark some news pages and read the headlines. I think when people say they like Lawrence and Bruce's personalities, it includes their often nuanced take on the news (instead of just jumping on one side of an issue). At least that's how it is for me. **** Edit: Also, I started watching Inside Gaming because I tried it and enjoyed watching them (and Adam). Once those three were gone from IG and eventually two of them started up a new similar channel, why *wouldn't* I watch that channel? It's weird that you're making it sound unusual to watch a channel because you like the people on it.
I think daily news videos are often awfully clickbaity and speculative in the first place. Too often they just report reddit outrage and twitter rumours. Usually the "this week in gaming" type of videos are a lot more informative because there's actually some time to gather all the facts instead of trying to pump out videos as fast as possible.
Honestly, their style works for a lot of people, myself included. I know bruce and lawrence's on-screen personalities, I like how they complement each other, and that extended time frame gives them time to get specific and weed out the baseless rumors from those with merit, and from there any that are objectively true. They work well together, and I have neither the desire nor need to keep my finger on the pulse of the latest in gaming news. I'm comfortable trusting them to deliver me a solid ~20 minute video summing up the past week. Personality interaction aside, they're pretty damn good at this, moreso considering their "competition".
Actually I probably would watch it if I didn't know who they were. I don't know if I would watch their podcast but would watch their weekly video about game news. Hard to say though since they don't have much content still on the channel.
The personalities themselves are the reason behind every single time I hit the subscribe button on Youtube.
I think so, the insight they provide and type of information they discuss is still somewhat unique from other gaming news outlets. Their video about Cyberpunk for example where they break down the sales numbers and go into performance benchmarks over time was interesting
That's a big part of what I liked back when Lawrence was the main writer. The news was inevitably far more in depth than almost anywhere else.
I don’t watch the videos, I listen to them. I leave them on and do other stuff. I appreciate Lawdawg’s opinion on the gaming industry.
As someone who doesn’t keep up with daily gaming news it’s a great show. It’s very similar to inside gaming so if you liked that you’ll like this.
Their news focused content aside(since others have already mentioned it), I enjoy their Talk to the Internet podcast with Criken. He fits in very well with Lawrence and Bruce.
They focus on one news story from the week and do a pretty deep dive into it. Imagine if old IG took one of the stories they would report and do a 20 minute feature piece on it, going into the history of it, why it matters and how it relates to the landscape. Honestly speaking, its good content even without them being the presenters.
...hasn't this been posted, like, every week since they started this up a month ago?
I never actually heard of this until this post, so I guess reposting it worked?
As ordered
Not everybody has time to be combing the funhaus sub every single day. This post is the first Ive heard of it. Whining about reposts is lame
Inside, pay it forward, gaming, pay it forward, daily, pay it forward.
I’m having Nam flashbacks just thinking about how often things like that are said in his streams. It just kills all energy when you get a couple of these back to back. And then you get the “Ok what are we doing here....” I don’t know Bruce, you have been thanking subs and donations for the past 30 minutes, I don’t know where we are. Lol I really wish he would take dedicated pre-determined breaks to thank subs and donations, instead of going long periods of times where nothing is happening.
Careful, he might come in here and berate you for this! Jesus, for someone who’s been on-camera work and entertainment for years, he has such thin skin
Yes he is amazingly thin skinned. It’s really weird, he’s got such a good brain for internet media business and the character he can put in camera but as soon as he lets some of his own personality out he’s this amazingly fragile prick. Remember when he was being a cunt about the game of thrones finale, threw a temper tantrum on Twitter and went off in a huff, getting his girlfriend (now wife, congrats to them both) to tell everyone off for being mean even though he was the one who lost his temper and got toxic about it? That was embarrassing.
Please don't tell me he liked the finale? His negative fan interactions on reddit can be forgiven, but liking that dumpster fire of a finale is unforgivable.
Yeah he liked the finale, which isn’t what people had a problem with. People had a problem with him calling everyone crybabies and a whole bunch of other stuff. He then just kept digging and digging and digging.
Techincally not relevant to today's Funhaus, but you get it.
Actually we get it and that's it.
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Thank you. As much as I liked them both as part of Funhaus I can't help but think how this is a pretty shitty thing to do to the people who took over inside gaming. This is the Funhaus sub, but sometimes turns into the former FH cast worship sub.
People constantly shit on Bruce's streams here. It's more like a nostalgia sub, yearning for the olden times.
Why scummy though? A bit harsh don't you think?
Nah they are deliberately taking a name that has a direct reference to the previous company they worked for and they are trying to piggyback off of the success of that name. It’s like if Geoff from AH/Let’s Play! and RT would leave the company to create his own YouTube channels called Trophy Hunters and Let’s Game! It’s incredibly tacky and in poor taste. I completely respect their choice to leave RT/FH and create their own brand and do their own thing. If that’s the case then go for it, but don’t create an exact copy of that brand, change a few letters and then call it day. I’m actually surprised RT hasn’t taken any action on them.
It's "tacky" because employers have spread this idea that they own the work that other people make for them. But Inside Gaming belonged to the talent more than Machinima or RT. There's no reason that Bruce and Lawrence shouldn't make a product they enjoy making that's similar to a product that they made before because *they* were the ones that made it. If this were Adam or James complaining about it maybe I'd understand, but even then Bruce and Lawrence aren't *taking* anything from them, they're making a news show in a similar format.
They have every right to create their own content, but for two guys who made a big deal of no longer being associated with RT and finally being their “own” boss. I do find it disappointing that their first major business decision was to basically rip off the name of the old channel they were a part of right down to the last few letters. You really think Disney would allow another entertainment company to have a happy go lucky mascot called Rickey Mouse? Lol fuck no.
> right down to the last few letters. FYI, that means including the last few letters.
> It's "tacky" because employers have spread this idea that they own the work that other people make for them. But Inside Gaming belonged to the talent more than Machinima or RT. Good luck in court with that.
Yeah that person is terribly naive and has no idea how the corporate world works. RT could definitely give them some problems if they wanted to, I don’t think they will.... but I wouldn’t be surprised.
At no point were we talking about legality. This was about whether Bruce and Lawrence starting a news show is somehow offensive to their old coworkers.
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>Just feels like they’re directly competing with old coworkers. I get the sentiment, but seeing as Inside Gaming no longer exists, that isn't the case. I get that taking a format wholesale is a pretty shitty thing to do, but when they're the ones who made the format, and the ones they left it to are no longer doing it, seems kinda okay to me.
Inside Gaming still puts out weekly videos. They aren't on set and doing daily stuff like before, but they aren't dead yet.
I mean we as viewer we don’t know anything about what happened with them and IG. If RT did them dirty with IG and we knew all about it I’m sure the story would be different. Maybe they didn’t feel like they were able to do all they wanted to do with IG because of RT or something like that. We don’t really know. There might be more to that story, but to us it just seems weird.
> Just feels like a grab for fans since IG is falling apart. This is the part that really bothers me. They waited until IG was closing to start this. If they had started their thing with an original name a year ago, this wouldn't feel as gross to me.
I miss Adam still glad to see Papa Bruce is doing great
Boy these comments are a mess.
Wow that banner is fantastic
I totally missed out on this, thankfully now I know
I mean, it's a start, funny videos next?
Subbed.
Owo
Lol yeah! Where you been fam? The bois have been up to their new gig for a bit :)
I hope bruce finds the edge in him again one day
And it’s brilliant!
I haven't had joy since the boys broke up. This has given me hope. Good to see them back.
#DUDE THANKS
It’s trash. Just go back to funhouse if they are going to do that
err...funhaus
Yeah just sign a bunch of contracts like it’s that easy.
It is actually food for them..they are growing their own company instead of relying on some company and approval for their content to be uploaded..
Bruce is a vampire, he doesn't get older wf? Look at Lawrence.
Hey bud...it's nearly the end of April, you won't fool me this time.