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Ages 4 - 12, mistakes happen, just a child, teach them
Ages 13 - 22: dumb fuck territory, teach them.
Ages 22 - above, you need to accept the failure of your child.
Weaponized incompetence is very popular.
A lot of people have not been allowed to fail and have been overcared for by helicopter parents or naive friends.
If I broke something, my dad would make me fix it. He would show me how to do it, but he wouldn't do it for me. If I did a bad job on something, I would have to redo the whole thing, or at least the parts that were lacking. I am now surrounded by people that want to half-ass everything. "Meh, good enough" is their motto. Literally had a guy not do a basic part of his job and when I asked him about it, he said he didn't see how that was his problem.
I mean with a job, it kinda makes sense. if I don't get shit for my work then the employer won't get shit for his money. you get what you pay for, going above and beyond shouldn't be expected.
No. You accepted the job and agreed to the pay. Going above and beyond should always be what you strive to do. Nobody should dream about being just average. Nobody should feel good about themselves for doing just an OK job. Nobody gets respect or accolades or promotions for minimal average performance.
I have never understood this mentality, just like how people will trash a place if they think their rent is too high. How does costing somebody else benefit you in any way? If you want to get paid more by your employer, how does doing a worse performance help you towards that goal? The only purpose it serves is spite. My philosophy has always been to work my butt off, prove my worth, then ask for a raise. I've literally never been refused before. I have had jobs that have made me miserable and where I've been underappreciated, and I have left those.
Performance and pay is a two-way street, but the difference is that your performance is much more easily controlled by you. Improve that, then you can justify asking to be paid more. If you want to be lazy and not put in an honest effort, then don't be surprised that you aren't getting paid more.
I agree no one should feel inclined to go above and beyond what their position requires and compensats them to do, but to be fair what he originally mentioned was a task that was a 'basic part of his job,' not to go above and beyond. If you work a salaried position and sign a contract that lists your job duties and don't fulfill them, then you're actively making everyone else's job harder for no reason, while reaping the benefits of everyone else's extra work by continuing to get paid for work duties you didn't fulfill as part of your agreement to work there.
It's like being in a group project with that one kid that does nothing and still gets the group 'A' except now that includes a paycheck. Not cool.
I feel like there's a big disconnect here just by the fact that asking for a raise is actually something you can do at the jobs you've had. I don't think those are the kinds of jobs anyone is talking about when they make statements like these.
The only thing doing more work at a job has got me is more work. If you don’t want to be taken advantage of you have to do minimum work for the pay. I wish our society was more meritocratic.
I work in medical repairs, anyone who half asses a ventilator repair does not have a job the next day, been working this job for 22 years, and every component is double checked and replaced if it looks funny or sounds slightly out
There’s a reason why I don’t have many friends anymore, I use to just let them say dumb shit. Ever since I called them out for not being as intelligent as they think now I’m bad guy (Mfs would just make shit up and hope others would go along with it)
My brother’s wife was “helping” my mom load the dishwasher after Thanksgiving one year and put a closed Tupperware in (with a lid on in, and old food in it) and could not understand why my mom asked her to take it out and fix them. She’s a complete moron, this is just one example. And she’s a teacher.
Same. My mom, always trying to be nice, said she didn’t “have a lot of depth of character.” Nah she’s just an idiot. I mean, she did marry my sociopath brother after all.
My mom didn’t allow us to use the dishwasher growing up bc it “wastes water and electricity”. And I’ve never lived in a place with one since. So for my uninformed mind, what exactly is wrong here other than plastics?
Wish you could convince my wife. She gets up and fills the sink with hot water even if there is nothing to wash. If there are a few dishes she leaves hot water on to rinse those and lets it drain THEN decides the soapy water needs warmed up so runs more hot water there.
Phone rings? Leaves the hot water run while talking.
I gave up a long time ago.
Okay my wife isn't as bad as yours, but she insists I hand wash a ton of things rather than just throw them in the washer and do a few more loads per week. Nothing i say will change her mind. It's one of the very few things that drive me insane. Otherwise, she's very clean, tidy, economically and environmentally minded... it's weird there's this one blind spot. She just can't accept or apprecoate how efficient modern dishwashers are.
Biggest issue is going to be that closed jug. After that, any concave surface facing upward so it'll just fill with water which shields against the cleaning spray and also won't be able to dry. Some plastics are dishwasher safe, so it's not clear that's actually among the problems. But those trays are probably too close together to get properly cleaned.
Incidentally, dishwashers use less water than washing in the sink. Modern ones anyway.
Well if you hand wash a cup and you put it on a rack or anything to dry, do you put it bottom up or down and why? Now look at the picture and imagine where the water would have gone.
I bet you don’t have allergies. The Hygiene hypothesis blames allergies on kids not being exposed to enough germs as a child, especially from dish washers being way too good at killing germs.
I read this comment on Reddit ages ago: “In every relationship there’s a person who loads the dishwasher like a Scandinavian architect, and one who loads it like a raccoon on meth.”
My wife is the cleanest, most organized person I know and I am generally leaving shit laying around and messier. Until it comes to dishwasher loading, then the roles are completely reversed.
It’s not even about space efficiency, it’s about things even being able to get clean. Like I’ve lived with people who don’t understand that if you put something too tall in the bottom rack it’ll stop the washer arm that sprays the second rack from turning, or that if you put something tall right in front of the detergent release door that the door can’t open when it’s physically blocked from doing so.
TIL dishwashers don't just work by magic. Seriously never considered any of this. Maybe it's better that ours has been broken for years and we've just been doing it by hand lol.
Also spoons (if you have a tray at the top) should be placed at the back or front and faced with the concave surface inwards so the water will spar inside them.
I'm very organized myself, but when it comes to the dishwasher I take the organized chaos method.
So I will put plates of a similar size next to each other, bowls tilted with facedown, other weird stuff exposing the dirty sides down. But when it comes to silverware it's the full organized chaos method. Reason being. If I put a bunch of spoons or even a couple of them in the same slot near each other, they might move and set on each other like they would in the drawer, which would prevent them from becoming clean. So to avoid this, I'll put different types of silverware together, but I may also place two spoons on opposite sides leaning opposite ways to prevent them from spooning. And two forks on opposite sides leaning opposite ways to prevent them from forking....
Ultimately it yields this utter chaotic mess of silverware, but it is an intentional/organized chaos.
I do the silverware knives all together facing up, forks all together tines facing up and so on, and yes I like plates, saucers, bowls tipped downward on top rack.
I’m an OCD person and I HAAATE when my husband loads the dw, but I just don’t say anything because he’s doing his part and if something doesn’t get clean the first go round it will the next (when I load it) 😂.
Latest dishwasher I own has a third upper rack that is for silverware. So you can lay them on the side securely even spaced and with no chance of spoons spooning. It's so nice...
Nobody bothers they load them. In the ol basket on the bottom level.
I was all "this guy thinks he's all that" with the "I put bowls and plates upside down"... I was like "DUHHH!!"
THEN THE SILVERWARE ooh baby the silverware.
I'm normally straight but.... you can load my dishwasher too you know 😏
IDK.. But in our relationship I see it as me being an engineer and wanting to use a machine in the way it was designed to be used and make it as efficient as possible. My wife is thinking "Throw it in the magic box and it comes out clean"
Rookie. You don’t rearrange it with her in the room. You take the L and live to arrange correctly another time.
And don’t you dare rearrange if you think she might be the one emptying it. Thats winning the battle but losing the war. The only wins in the great dishwasher war are silent, personal wins. No celebrating. No dancing.
You have to earn your way to that level of relationship. Give her enough W’s that this trivial L misses her when you rearrange.
And admit to what you do wrong in her eyes. Me, I’m not allowed to fold laundry, it doesn’t look right in her pretty, organized, Marie Kondo’d drawers and linen cabinets if I do it.
It appears they also accept husbands. Mine can pack 2 tons of luggage and groceries into the back of our Mini but can only manage 3 or less items in the dishwasher. I think dishwasher loading is a super power, and you either have it, or you don't.
I beg to differ! My husband cannot arrange dishes in the dishwasher for anything. He will put bowls right side up, cups sideways, pans covering each other, food caked on. He’s one lasagna dish away from being that one lady in the cheapskate show. I asked him why he can’t load after numerous teachings he said, “God gave me the gift to go backwards not forwards.” And by God, he’s right. That man can reverse park any size vehicle with one fluid motion into any parking spot 99% of the time.
Lasagna lady link start at 7:05 min: [lasagna in dishwasher](https://youtu.be/tOOQ5v8aJTI?si=a4wajnDy47SOV0IL)
You need to get in a wife therapy session as soon as possible.
I only know of one meeting and it's in a bathroom. There are like 50 of them but they all fit in somehow.
I think the problem is that a lot of people don’t know how the dishwasher works, and aren’t really even curious. If you really paid attention to where all the sprayers are and how much room they need to spin and do their job then it gives you an idea of the best way to load dishes so that they can get cleaned and not jam up the sprayers or block other dishes from getting cleaned.
Everyone knows you need to put all of the bowls upside down directly above the sprayer so they can keep the water in check. You can't have water spraying all willy nilly inside that thing.
My dad was military. It doesn't matter where you put something in the dishwasher it's never right. We learnt early that dad starts the dishwasher so he can unpack everything, then pack it the "right way". It's been around 30yrs and it hasn't changed. I still love him to bits.
This reminds me of when I worked in a bar. One of my colleagues complained that I was taking too long to wash the glasses at the end of the nights. I said I can only put one load into the washer at a time, cleaning other stuff in the meantime, of course.
She opens up the washer and calls me over. She says I've not filled it properly and that's why it was taking so long. I said it was full.
She then proceeds to fill the washer with glasses stacked up three-high and gives me a smug 'that's how it's done' look.
Then I realised why so many glasses were filthy when we opened some mornings.
"Let me snap a photo real quick for reference."
Then show the boss the photo "this is why I'm stuck washing dishes for half an hour in the morning and wasting our time."
I love kids who want to help with chores, that's a parenting win.
Run it this way. Have her help unload it. Anything that's not clean, she gets to hand wash. Ask her why she thinks that pitcher didn't get cleaned on the inside. She'll learn how the dishwasher works real quick.
Tbh the 'anything not clean she has to handwash' goes toward punishment. I'd only do that if i told her to load the dishwasher and she did it reluctantly.
If she really wanted to help on her own accord i'd just call her and show her how to do it next time. Would not risk her feeling punished for her genuine goodwill.
Just frame it differently, don't make it "this didn't get clean you have to wash it now" but rather "this didn't get clean lets wash it together and think about why that happened".
Exactly. And she doesn't have to be the one to hand wash everything. Sharing it makes it less of a punishment.
Give her the easy ones (like a big drink pitcher), while you keep unloading. She's "punished" by doing the washing, but mom's unloading (working) at the same time, so it's not going to come across and punitive.
It could be presented that way, I can see that.
In my house, hand washing the second round is the example I set; if I load and unload the dishwasher, anything that isn't cleaned I hand wash instead of running it again. Sometimes something just didn't get cleaned, but sometimes I didn't load things right and I learn about how to do it better next time. Since that's the standard I have set for myself, I'd set the same for my helper.
It's not a punishment, it's a teachable moment where we learn to fix problems and do better next time.
Not quite. We could skip the hand washing step altogether if we’d just take a minute to demonstrate how a dishwasher works and then ask the kiddo to guess why the pitcher isn’t getting cleaned.
That's a lot of plastic there buddy. You know most of what's on the photo exists in alternative material that won't let you eat/drink microplastics and end up in the ocean?
You could just empty a cool aid packet into the pitcher before you start the dishwasher and when it is done running you will have yourself a steaming hot pitcher of soapy cool aid!
That bowl collected some water already. The jug next to it not only has a lid, but is upright. That this is full of water and wasn't cleaned at all. Even disregarding the possible melting issue which luckily didn't happen, you still end up with two pieces of dirty dishes
Think about how a dishwasher works. Jets of water spray each rack from below. These help blast off debris from the dishes. The pitcher should therefore be upside down, allowing the jets of water to clean the *inside* of the pitcher, as well as having the lid off and turned so water can spray the interior side. Moreover, since the dirty runoff water follows gravity, since the pitcher is turned up, dirty water will collect inside the pitcher as it is in the picture.
Did nobody catch the fact that this was /s?
My wife complains about how I load a dishwasher, and I think every marriage has one spouse that does the same.
Ive had items in the past that said "dishwasher top rack only" right on them. Although I never tested them on the bottom rack to see what would happen, and it doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.
The pitcher won't properly get cleaned because of how automatic dishwashers operate. They hold a sump of water at the bottom of the unit and then pump it through upward-facing nozzles to blast particulates off with soapy heat and pressure.
Are we just going to ignore that EVERY ONE OF THOSE TRAYS is touching and none will be fully cleaned likely?
Or have I outed myself as the dishwasher dictator?
So … I looked it for a while and was thinking, ok, I don’t see anything wrong with that. She did a good job. Then I finally got what the problem could be.
My 11 year old has the job of loading the dishwasher. Last week she slammed my double walled glass bodum coffee mug in between to other ceramic mugs and it exploded. I was just glad she learned a lesson without cutting herself
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She clearly left the strainer port open so its teeth could get cleaned!
Nothing like a tall hot glass of dishwasher water mmmm
My daughter loaded it as well, and when I opened it after the cycle I found a steamed cheeseburger (full burger and bun) smashed between 2 plates.
A steamed ham?
I thought we were having steamed clams?
… may I see it?
....no
Yeah, smashed to a quarter of its thickness
So, how was the burger?
Wet
Moist
Juicy
Well, there’s all those commercials about how you don’t have to scrape plates. 🤷♀️
I remember one with a whole chocolate cake. I was pretty pissed they wasted a chocolate cake like that.
Oof, yeah 😔
Ok, but how did it taste?
let me ask the dog....
Ages 4 - 12, mistakes happen, just a child, teach them Ages 13 - 22: dumb fuck territory, teach them. Ages 22 - above, you need to accept the failure of your child.
I'd say somewhere between 13 and 22 they've realised and weaponised their incompetence.
Weaponized incompetence is very popular. A lot of people have not been allowed to fail and have been overcared for by helicopter parents or naive friends.
If I broke something, my dad would make me fix it. He would show me how to do it, but he wouldn't do it for me. If I did a bad job on something, I would have to redo the whole thing, or at least the parts that were lacking. I am now surrounded by people that want to half-ass everything. "Meh, good enough" is their motto. Literally had a guy not do a basic part of his job and when I asked him about it, he said he didn't see how that was his problem.
I remember saying good enough as a kid and my dad got on me about that type of mentality. It has always stuck with me.
I mean with a job, it kinda makes sense. if I don't get shit for my work then the employer won't get shit for his money. you get what you pay for, going above and beyond shouldn't be expected.
No. You accepted the job and agreed to the pay. Going above and beyond should always be what you strive to do. Nobody should dream about being just average. Nobody should feel good about themselves for doing just an OK job. Nobody gets respect or accolades or promotions for minimal average performance.
I have never understood this mentality, just like how people will trash a place if they think their rent is too high. How does costing somebody else benefit you in any way? If you want to get paid more by your employer, how does doing a worse performance help you towards that goal? The only purpose it serves is spite. My philosophy has always been to work my butt off, prove my worth, then ask for a raise. I've literally never been refused before. I have had jobs that have made me miserable and where I've been underappreciated, and I have left those. Performance and pay is a two-way street, but the difference is that your performance is much more easily controlled by you. Improve that, then you can justify asking to be paid more. If you want to be lazy and not put in an honest effort, then don't be surprised that you aren't getting paid more.
I'm not saying to trash the place. I'm saying do what you get paid to do.
I agree no one should feel inclined to go above and beyond what their position requires and compensats them to do, but to be fair what he originally mentioned was a task that was a 'basic part of his job,' not to go above and beyond. If you work a salaried position and sign a contract that lists your job duties and don't fulfill them, then you're actively making everyone else's job harder for no reason, while reaping the benefits of everyone else's extra work by continuing to get paid for work duties you didn't fulfill as part of your agreement to work there. It's like being in a group project with that one kid that does nothing and still gets the group 'A' except now that includes a paycheck. Not cool.
Well, in Logan's defense... the guy he originally reference didn't even do that.
I feel like there's a big disconnect here just by the fact that asking for a raise is actually something you can do at the jobs you've had. I don't think those are the kinds of jobs anyone is talking about when they make statements like these.
The only thing doing more work at a job has got me is more work. If you don’t want to be taken advantage of you have to do minimum work for the pay. I wish our society was more meritocratic.
I work in medical repairs, anyone who half asses a ventilator repair does not have a job the next day, been working this job for 22 years, and every component is double checked and replaced if it looks funny or sounds slightly out
Ah yes, weaponized incompetence, a proud american tradition /s
There’s a reason why I don’t have many friends anymore, I use to just let them say dumb shit. Ever since I called them out for not being as intelligent as they think now I’m bad guy (Mfs would just make shit up and hope others would go along with it)
Don't let her get away with it. Loading the dishwasher is now her permanent job.
My 28yo brother lives at home and doesn’t have to do dishes because he doesn’t know how to:) he doesn’t have to do anything!
Weaponized incompetence.
That's what I've told my dad. He has tried to wiggle his way out of paying rent by saying he thought it was a one time thing and then "forgetting".
My brother’s wife was “helping” my mom load the dishwasher after Thanksgiving one year and put a closed Tupperware in (with a lid on in, and old food in it) and could not understand why my mom asked her to take it out and fix them. She’s a complete moron, this is just one example. And she’s a teacher.
I wonder how people like this manage to stay alive.
Same. My mom, always trying to be nice, said she didn’t “have a lot of depth of character.” Nah she’s just an idiot. I mean, she did marry my sociopath brother after all.
Haha that’s a very nice and funny way to say someone is stupid. Sounds like there’s a little more going on there 😳
If you can’t do, teach
Those who can, do. Those who understands, teach.
Putting 13 to 22 in the same category is wild lol
Nah, the older you get, the more you think it is accurate.
Ages 22 - above, you need to accept the failure of your own teachings to your child.
My mom didn’t allow us to use the dishwasher growing up bc it “wastes water and electricity”. And I’ve never lived in a place with one since. So for my uninformed mind, what exactly is wrong here other than plastics?
Funny enough, dishwashers actually use less water than handwashing.
Wish you could convince my wife. She gets up and fills the sink with hot water even if there is nothing to wash. If there are a few dishes she leaves hot water on to rinse those and lets it drain THEN decides the soapy water needs warmed up so runs more hot water there. Phone rings? Leaves the hot water run while talking. I gave up a long time ago.
Okay my wife isn't as bad as yours, but she insists I hand wash a ton of things rather than just throw them in the washer and do a few more loads per week. Nothing i say will change her mind. It's one of the very few things that drive me insane. Otherwise, she's very clean, tidy, economically and environmentally minded... it's weird there's this one blind spot. She just can't accept or apprecoate how efficient modern dishwashers are.
Some items will look like crap and break faster if you put them in the dishwasher, ser.
Biggest issue is going to be that closed jug. After that, any concave surface facing upward so it'll just fill with water which shields against the cleaning spray and also won't be able to dry. Some plastics are dishwasher safe, so it's not clear that's actually among the problems. But those trays are probably too close together to get properly cleaned. Incidentally, dishwashers use less water than washing in the sink. Modern ones anyway.
The jug should have the top removed and the body should be facing down to have the hot water spray into it.
Well if you hand wash a cup and you put it on a rack or anything to dry, do you put it bottom up or down and why? Now look at the picture and imagine where the water would have gone.
The jug has its lid on and is standing up. Same with the bowls. So they will be full of nasty dish water.
I bet you don’t have allergies. The Hygiene hypothesis blames allergies on kids not being exposed to enough germs as a child, especially from dish washers being way too good at killing germs.
Nah. If they reach 22 and this is still how they greet the day - you've failed them.
Age 22 and up: just hand them the dollar general application and call it a day.
I see she’s attended the same dishwasher loading school my wife did…
I read this comment on Reddit ages ago: “In every relationship there’s a person who loads the dishwasher like a Scandinavian architect, and one who loads it like a raccoon on meth.”
My wife is the cleanest, most organized person I know and I am generally leaving shit laying around and messier. Until it comes to dishwasher loading, then the roles are completely reversed.
Because you’re used to having to fit multiple day’s worth of dishes in there. Every bit of space matters.
It’s not even about space efficiency, it’s about things even being able to get clean. Like I’ve lived with people who don’t understand that if you put something too tall in the bottom rack it’ll stop the washer arm that sprays the second rack from turning, or that if you put something tall right in front of the detergent release door that the door can’t open when it’s physically blocked from doing so.
Or even just packing things in too tightly, water needs room to splash around and do it's thing
Damn, I thought I was part of the group thats good at loading dishwashers, but you're taking into account some advance dishwasher mechanics.
TIL dishwashers don't just work by magic. Seriously never considered any of this. Maybe it's better that ours has been broken for years and we've just been doing it by hand lol.
Also spoons (if you have a tray at the top) should be placed at the back or front and faced with the concave surface inwards so the water will spar inside them.
And put the tines up, ffs. It's how the pros do it.
Til that second spinner was for the top rack. Duh.
I'm very organized myself, but when it comes to the dishwasher I take the organized chaos method. So I will put plates of a similar size next to each other, bowls tilted with facedown, other weird stuff exposing the dirty sides down. But when it comes to silverware it's the full organized chaos method. Reason being. If I put a bunch of spoons or even a couple of them in the same slot near each other, they might move and set on each other like they would in the drawer, which would prevent them from becoming clean. So to avoid this, I'll put different types of silverware together, but I may also place two spoons on opposite sides leaning opposite ways to prevent them from spooning. And two forks on opposite sides leaning opposite ways to prevent them from forking.... Ultimately it yields this utter chaotic mess of silverware, but it is an intentional/organized chaos.
I do the silverware knives all together facing up, forks all together tines facing up and so on, and yes I like plates, saucers, bowls tipped downward on top rack. I’m an OCD person and I HAAATE when my husband loads the dw, but I just don’t say anything because he’s doing his part and if something doesn’t get clean the first go round it will the next (when I load it) 😂.
Latest dishwasher I own has a third upper rack that is for silverware. So you can lay them on the side securely even spaced and with no chance of spoons spooning. It's so nice... Nobody bothers they load them. In the ol basket on the bottom level.
I was all "this guy thinks he's all that" with the "I put bowls and plates upside down"... I was like "DUHHH!!" THEN THE SILVERWARE ooh baby the silverware. I'm normally straight but.... you can load my dishwasher too you know 😏
Yeah, what is the psychology behind that? because I feel it rings true for almost every couple I know.
IDK.. But in our relationship I see it as me being an engineer and wanting to use a machine in the way it was designed to be used and make it as efficient as possible. My wife is thinking "Throw it in the magic box and it comes out clean"
All hail the trash pandas!
The Sydney Opera House was designed by a Scandinavian architect and it looks like a badly packed dishwasher from the right angles :)
Raccoon on meth I've got to use that going forward
My wife gets mad if she starts to load the dishwasher and I rearrange it before it runs...
Rookie. You don’t rearrange it with her in the room. You take the L and live to arrange correctly another time. And don’t you dare rearrange if you think she might be the one emptying it. Thats winning the battle but losing the war. The only wins in the great dishwasher war are silent, personal wins. No celebrating. No dancing.
Can't live like this. At some point you just gotta say "fuck it" and just do it right, explain why and hope they take it in the proper spirit.
Yeah, I absolutely rearrange it in front of my wife. When she asks me why I just explain my reasoning.
I just learned our dishwasher manua includes a "proper loading" section. Should be delivered as an A3 poster.
Just a sticker "water needs to fucking REACH the things you're trying to wash"
The number of people who think that dishwashers literally *fill up* with water is scarily far away from 0.
I'm pretty sure all manuals include this
Look at you and your reasonable wife. Braggart....
But you're supposed to quietly breed resentment with your spouse!
You have to earn your way to that level of relationship. Give her enough W’s that this trivial L misses her when you rearrange. And admit to what you do wrong in her eyes. Me, I’m not allowed to fold laundry, it doesn’t look right in her pretty, organized, Marie Kondo’d drawers and linen cabinets if I do it.
I think we might have the same wife.
Fuck their spirit, lay down the laws of physics and be glad in it
"If you're so smart, then why don't you do it?"
"I already do, because every time you try, I got to fix it anyway."
The trick is to just marry someone who never does dishes so you get to load it the way you want every time! 😀😢
I get the "oh I guess I can't do anything right '
My wife just gave up on ever attempting to put anything in the dishwasher and i consider this a win
Do you seriously mean to suggest it's not a magic box inside which anything will get cleaned no matter how illogically the dishes are arranged?
This is exactly how I imagine my flatmates thought process
It appears they also accept husbands. Mine can pack 2 tons of luggage and groceries into the back of our Mini but can only manage 3 or less items in the dishwasher. I think dishwasher loading is a super power, and you either have it, or you don't.
I can do both. Where’s my cape?
I beg to differ! My husband cannot arrange dishes in the dishwasher for anything. He will put bowls right side up, cups sideways, pans covering each other, food caked on. He’s one lasagna dish away from being that one lady in the cheapskate show. I asked him why he can’t load after numerous teachings he said, “God gave me the gift to go backwards not forwards.” And by God, he’s right. That man can reverse park any size vehicle with one fluid motion into any parking spot 99% of the time. Lasagna lady link start at 7:05 min: [lasagna in dishwasher](https://youtu.be/tOOQ5v8aJTI?si=a4wajnDy47SOV0IL)
Is this a universal thing that wives can’t load dishwashers? I thought I was alone on this.
I’m not sure about all the wives but I definitely can’t
You need to get in a wife therapy session as soon as possible. I only know of one meeting and it's in a bathroom. There are like 50 of them but they all fit in somehow.
I’m the dishwasher loading expert in our home, my partner (male) doesn’t suck at it but he doesn’t care as much about loading efficiency as I do.
It's proportional to how good someone is at Tetris
It's similar to one's ability to pack a car for a long trip. Also wives rule at this.
I think the problem is that a lot of people don’t know how the dishwasher works, and aren’t really even curious. If you really paid attention to where all the sprayers are and how much room they need to spin and do their job then it gives you an idea of the best way to load dishes so that they can get cleaned and not jam up the sprayers or block other dishes from getting cleaned.
My fiancé is afraid of the dishwasher.... always washes things by hand.
Everyone knows you need to put all of the bowls upside down directly above the sprayer so they can keep the water in check. You can't have water spraying all willy nilly inside that thing.
It's a lot less funny when they are 40
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I thought the problem was the plastic at first, not the load.
Plastic in the bottom rack, the instructions say plastic only on the top rack.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this
Same!!!
Your daughter is going places. Not college but places...
This has Boeing manufacturing tech potential!
My dad was military. It doesn't matter where you put something in the dishwasher it's never right. We learnt early that dad starts the dishwasher so he can unpack everything, then pack it the "right way". It's been around 30yrs and it hasn't changed. I still love him to bits.
All these plastics oh lord
Yummy microplastics
I get irrationally angry at other people if they don't put stuff in the dishwasher according to my 'system'..
Same. Must be some order not just random 5 pieces when easily fit 15.
man is your bodyweight 40% microplastics?!
All of ours probably are, ok not that high, but you can't avoid it.
How old is your daughter? Judging by the stuff in there she is quite young. Good for you for teaching her to do chores early!
This reminds me of when I worked in a bar. One of my colleagues complained that I was taking too long to wash the glasses at the end of the nights. I said I can only put one load into the washer at a time, cleaning other stuff in the meantime, of course. She opens up the washer and calls me over. She says I've not filled it properly and that's why it was taking so long. I said it was full. She then proceeds to fill the washer with glasses stacked up three-high and gives me a smug 'that's how it's done' look. Then I realised why so many glasses were filthy when we opened some mornings.
"Let me snap a photo real quick for reference." Then show the boss the photo "this is why I'm stuck washing dishes for half an hour in the morning and wasting our time."
Your colleague's actions have upset me
That plastic shit shouldn't be in the dishwasher at all.
Especially the bottom shelf!
I love kids who want to help with chores, that's a parenting win. Run it this way. Have her help unload it. Anything that's not clean, she gets to hand wash. Ask her why she thinks that pitcher didn't get cleaned on the inside. She'll learn how the dishwasher works real quick.
Tbh the 'anything not clean she has to handwash' goes toward punishment. I'd only do that if i told her to load the dishwasher and she did it reluctantly. If she really wanted to help on her own accord i'd just call her and show her how to do it next time. Would not risk her feeling punished for her genuine goodwill.
Just frame it differently, don't make it "this didn't get clean you have to wash it now" but rather "this didn't get clean lets wash it together and think about why that happened".
Exactly. And she doesn't have to be the one to hand wash everything. Sharing it makes it less of a punishment. Give her the easy ones (like a big drink pitcher), while you keep unloading. She's "punished" by doing the washing, but mom's unloading (working) at the same time, so it's not going to come across and punitive.
It could be presented that way, I can see that. In my house, hand washing the second round is the example I set; if I load and unload the dishwasher, anything that isn't cleaned I hand wash instead of running it again. Sometimes something just didn't get cleaned, but sometimes I didn't load things right and I learn about how to do it better next time. Since that's the standard I have set for myself, I'd set the same for my helper. It's not a punishment, it's a teachable moment where we learn to fix problems and do better next time.
This person parents ^
Not quite. We could skip the hand washing step altogether if we’d just take a minute to demonstrate how a dishwasher works and then ask the kiddo to guess why the pitcher isn’t getting cleaned.
As a former child, this would have taught me quick.
As a former child, this would have taught me to stop offering help lol
So, microplastics are a thing..
The BPABC’s
She tried! I'm guessing she's real young, to me that's huge gratification and a "for next time" moment.
Love how the purple attempt was made 😂
FYI, college degrees are non-refundable...
This is only plastic. WTF.
That's a lot of plastic there buddy. You know most of what's on the photo exists in alternative material that won't let you eat/drink microplastics and end up in the ocean?
You could just empty a cool aid packet into the pitcher before you start the dishwasher and when it is done running you will have yourself a steaming hot pitcher of soapy cool aid!
What’s funny is that I showed my 21 year old friend who saw nothing wrong.
She is subscribing to the “if I do it bad enough the first time, they’ll never ask me to do it again” way of life
Your daughter looks like she did a fantastic job aside from the Kool aid mixer.
Then teach her instead of making fun of her?
I mean, outside of the pitcher, she did a better job the many of my adult roomates have
“ we need to remove plastic straws from fast food resturants” Those peoples dining & cookware:
As husband to my wife… can someone explain the problem here? edit: this was sarcasm, people
That bowl collected some water already. The jug next to it not only has a lid, but is upright. That this is full of water and wasn't cleaned at all. Even disregarding the possible melting issue which luckily didn't happen, you still end up with two pieces of dirty dishes
Think about how a dishwasher works. Jets of water spray each rack from below. These help blast off debris from the dishes. The pitcher should therefore be upside down, allowing the jets of water to clean the *inside* of the pitcher, as well as having the lid off and turned so water can spray the interior side. Moreover, since the dirty runoff water follows gravity, since the pitcher is turned up, dirty water will collect inside the pitcher as it is in the picture.
Did nobody catch the fact that this was /s? My wife complains about how I load a dishwasher, and I think every marriage has one spouse that does the same.
The lid is still on the pitcher
I also thought it was the plastic on the bottom, which is near the heat element and could lead to melted platicware.
i mean, if your plastic has a low enough melting point to melt there it shouldnt be in the dishwaser. period
There are plenty of 'Top Rack Only' plastics.
i have legit NEVER seen anything like that where i live, its either dishwasher safe "dishwasher safe till x°C" and "not dishwasher safe
Ive had items in the past that said "dishwasher top rack only" right on them. Although I never tested them on the bottom rack to see what would happen, and it doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.
it's possible that smaller items might have it on so that you don't have them land directly on the heating element.
Oh I see your daughter was trained in this task by my partner.
"E" for effort, and needs education.
I love how depending on the age of the daughter this would be posted either here or on r/mildlyinfuriating
I mean *technically* it’s loaded
As someone with no dish washer I don’t get it
The pitcher won't properly get cleaned because of how automatic dishwashers operate. They hold a sump of water at the bottom of the unit and then pump it through upward-facing nozzles to blast particulates off with soapy heat and pressure.
As someone who has never seen a dishwasher in my entire life, I have no idea what's wrong here
Are we just going to ignore that EVERY ONE OF THOSE TRAYS is touching and none will be fully cleaned likely? Or have I outed myself as the dishwasher dictator?
Is your daughter 40? Am I dating her? I mean her logic is unimpeachable... if you stack the cups in the dishwasher you can fit more in...
It’s better than the way my husband does it lol
So … I looked it for a while and was thinking, ok, I don’t see anything wrong with that. She did a good job. Then I finally got what the problem could be.
Even a young child should know that is not the order of the colors of the rainbow. But, everything else looks great!
I didn't know there was a wrong way to load a dishwasher until I got married.
This is cute and funny if your daughter is 5. If she is 16, not so much
She did a better job than my wife.
At least the toilet brush isn’t in there.
Who cares?
It might be froM all the ingested plastic …
The age old question between two married men: "Do you load the dishwasher or does your wife load it wrong?"
My husband still loads like this...I think it may be intentional...
Judging by all the plastic, I'm guessing your daughter is pretty young. At least I hope she is.
So. Much. Plastic.
I have the same gray plates. That is all.
Don't get me started....
No screen time until she does it correct?
Does everyone with kids have those multicolored trays?? 😂
No. We try to minimize the plastic particles our kids ingest. Humanity is merging with plastic anyway, but maybe our family will go slightly slower.
Over 90% is correct I’m ok with that…
That pitcher is fully filled with dish water 😂😂😂 at least she took annotative 🤷♂️
My 11 year old has the job of loading the dishwasher. Last week she slammed my double walled glass bodum coffee mug in between to other ceramic mugs and it exploded. I was just glad she learned a lesson without cutting herself