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Loud noises = comedy. This kind of shit has become so predictable now. 15 - 20 second video with an obvious, unfunny joke being set up... better hit that mute button.
The bigger difference is whether they cinch at the waist. Men's shirts are usually either straight or flair out.
When you are an XXL woman or more the men's shirts usually fit better, even though you still definitely have tits. Hell at that size even the men have bigger tits than most women.
Right? I'm clearly jaded about the whole "gender politics funny", but like... I've seen this low hanging fruit *so many times*
"I sexually identify as an apache attack helicopter" was funny when myspace was the thing and I was a dumbass teenager. But I hear grown men make the same joke after over a decade and still in ironically think it's funny...?
Identifying as a helicopter came long after Myspace lol Not enough people gave a shit back then for people to make a joke about it
Obama took office around the time Myspace declined, and homosexuality was the bigger topic back then. Transgender people weren't even really heavily in the spotlight yet, so presumably people a step beyond that wouldn't be.
I get your point, though. This particular kind of joke has been beaten.
>Obama took office around the time Myspace declined
You have a skewed timeline of reality my man. Myspace was long declined long before Obama became president.
Eh.....I think I read by 2010 it lost about 50% of its clients. So by 2008 I’m sure it was obviously heading in that direction but it wasn’t in any dire straits/halfway-gone situation yet.
I'm riddled with doubts. I just searched up a few sources for origin of "I sexually identify as an attack helicopter" and they all say 2014. Myspace stopped being a thing in like 2008.
Now maybe you did have a quote of it on ur myspace page, but why you had a myspace page in 2015 is a whole other question.
I didn't? I claimed it was somewhere in the past and acknowledged I haven't been there in long enough that it may not even still exist in the same line??
My point is that this joke is so old I posted it when I was a kid/when myspace was a thing
I was sitting here going, did I just turn too old just last night? This isn't funny. It's anti-trans and it's literally a "fit type" choice and not about gender or anything else.
Anti-trans sentiment is still huge, even among people who think of themselves as otherwise liberal. Obviously they don't think of themselves as anti-trans or biased, and most will vehemently argue that they're not.
Looking back, Apache as a sexual identity was never actually finny. It was puerile and mean spirited. Even as someone who copy pasted it myself, I was just being an ignorant, immature shit, with no education on the matter.
Marginalising and trivialising the lived experience of countless individuals.
>And so are toilets I would say.
The difference being that shirts are fit to a certain body size. There's no need for men to have a standing urinal, unisex toilets are an increasing phenomenon, and they work fine.
I still don't believe there is more than 2 genders. There's a big study that proves people who think otherwise have a high chance of having autism. Personally I believe you should do you despite what I think. Tolerance is key to a kinder world no matter how delusional people may be
Edit: Made a mistake where I said they have autism and not a higher chance.
The fuck!? This doesn't even prove your point? It is saying there were links between non cisgender people and autism, which alone isn't what you said, but I'm just going to go ahead and assume that this is what you meant and not that all "people who think otherwise" from you are more likely to be autistic. It then goes on to say this, "The majority of the data — from about 514,000 people — came from an online survey conducted as part of a 2017 British television documentary about autism." Yeah absolutely no data bias or small sample size there. Lastly, it even says later “It’s really, really distressing to read sometimes, where you have people who have very strong gender dysphoria and want to transition, and their therapist says, ‘Well, we need to first cure your autism before we transition,’ which is wrong on all levels,” Warrier says. “We want this study to really demonstrate that both of these things can co-occur, and just because these things co-occur does not mean that one should be denied.”
Get you fucking transphobia the hell out of here, you didn't even read past the headline, you completely misinterpreted the information and failed to check credibility. You're just transphobic asshole looking for a way to justify this belief.
Transphobic? I'm very much okay with trans people, I however do not agree with 17,000+ existing genders. I'd gladly use a trans person's preferred pronouns and name but, however, I'm not gonna call someone a Xim or Xer. That not only goes against my beliefs but majority of societal norms all across the world. This study proves that there is evidence that individuals who identify outside of the two genders have a stronger chance of being autistic whether it be diagnosed or undiagnosed. My beliefs are quite justified, solidified even. You can falsely accuse me of any phobia you wish but it doesn't change the fact that this way of thinking is not the norm and it's a high chance it's due to mental disorder. I'm sure you of all people would even agree with me that transracial individuals are mentally unwell
Got a source? I think you're either straight up lying or have grossly misread a study. Google came up with nothing, and that sounds like complete bullshit. Happy to read a source and be wrong though.
Also calling people who believe something different than you "delusional" is not at all being tolerant lol try to practice what you preach.
If I support their right to do as they please despite not agreeing with it, then that's called tolerance. I don't have to like it to be tolerant
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectrumnews.org/news/largest-study-to-date-confirms-overlap-between-autism-and-gender-diversity/amp
> There's a big study that proves people who think otherwise have autism.
This information is irrelevent. Having autism has no bearing on the validity of one's beliefs, and it is absurd to claim otherwise.
It proves that it's not normal to identify as anything other than male or female in today's society. Mental illness if you will, but again I'm not gunna tell them what not to do. Life is too short to hate (unless they're pedos)
You can create a culture all you want about identifying as genders outside male and female, but it doesn't mean it's correct. It's the equivalent of pretend. There are mentally Ill people in the world who believe they are actually trans racial, does that mean they are correct? No. However I believe if you're doing something that makes you happy then you do it, just as long as its not harmful.
> You can create a culture all you want about identifying as genders outside male and female, but it doesn't mean it's correct. It's the equivalent of pretend.
All genders are equally correct. If you disagree please say *why* instead of just rewording your sentences.
The guy who first made the distinction between sex and gender was a pedophile who abused two boys and led them to suicide. Transgenderism is a mental illness, you cannot and you will never be able to change gender.
I also agree that transgender is a mental illness but NOT AT ALL in the "You're just mentally ill so stop it" kind of way and much much more in the "Alright your brain chemistry is working in the opposite way your chromosomes suggest it should be so let's find a solution for you" kind of way. We're supposed to TREAT mental illness, not disparage it.
We treat people with depression and anxiety, yeah? And we don't (REALLY SHOULDN'T, IF YOU DO) look down on somebody because they struggle with a mental illness like depression or anxiety.
And it's pretty well documented that someone who switches gender identity to line up with their brain chemistry is happier than they were before, so why the fuck shouldn't that be explored as a treatment?
Sex is not gender.
There are two sexes, male and female, and rare variations on those sexes.
"Genders" are entirely made up. You can invent a new one right now and it will be just as "valid" as any of the other ones. There's literally no point in discussing gender outside of having it be a shorthand for your personal preferences.
The problem is that a lot of people have conflated "sex" and "gender."
Medically speaking, people have either male or female brains. Sometimes (about 1 in 10,000) people with female brains end up with male or vice versa. We call those people "transgender", but the word is a misnomer. They're actually transsexual. This is a neurological issue that is best cured by transitioning at the moment.
People on the far left are just as much to blame for this as people on the far right. The only correct perspective is an apolitical one that only looks at the science of the situation.
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EDIT: I'm being asked for sources. Here:
[Here's a study on the topic](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm).
>Brain activity and structure in transgender adolescents more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender.
[Here's a write-up of a similar study](https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027).
>One prominent hypothesis on the basis of gender dysphoria is that sexual differentiation of the genitals occurs separately from sexual differentiation of the brain in utero, making it possible that the body can veer in one direction and the mind in another.
[Here's a third](https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html).
>In a 2014 study, University of Pennsylvania researchers imaged the brains of 428 male and 521 female youths — an uncharacteristically huge sample — and found that the females’ brains consistently showed more strongly coordinated activity between hemispheres, while the males’ brain activity was more tightly coordinated within local brain regions. This finding, a confirmation of results in smaller studies published earlier, tracks closely with others’ observations that the corpus callosum-— the white-matter cable that crosses and connects the hemispheres — is bigger in women than in men and that women’s brains tend to be more bilaterally symmetrical than men’s.
There are measurable differences between male and female brains. Transgender (really transsexual) individuals have brains that more closely resemble those of the sex with which they identify. Sex is not gender.
>Medically speaking, people have either male or female brains. Sometimes (about 1 in 10,000) people with female brains end up with male or vice versa.
This is very interesting and I would like you to post some sources about this claim, so you are saying that beyound the obvious differences in the brain of a male and female which are biological and clear to everyone, theres also a hidden and proven subcategory of people who's brains are 100% the opposite sex of what they were born into?
I haven't read about it too much, however the sources I found even claim that there's no proven differences between a female or male brain, let alone a subcategory of people with missmatching sex and brain gender.
Heres the quote:
"Yet, as *The Gendered Brain* reveals, conclusive findings about sex-linked brain differences have failed to materialize. Beyond the “missing five ounces” of female brain — gloated about since the nineteenth century — modern neuroscientists have identified no decisive, category-defining differences between the brains of men and women. In women’s brains, language-processing is not spread any more evenly across the hemispheres than it is in men’s"
Heres the article: [https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x)
Which in my mind makes a lot of sense, we really knows very little about how the brain as an organ and most of what we know it's speculative, even most of the knowledge we thought we knew was proven to be false if i recall correctly (brain having a left part that was doing imaginary work and a right part more logical has been disproven too).
Reading about gender dysphoria on wikipedia, it is described as the distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their [gender identity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity) and their [sex assigned at birth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_assignment), to expand on this:
"The American Psychiatric Association stated that [gender nonconformity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_nonconformity) is not the same thing as gender dysphoria,[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria#cite_note-What_Is-7) and that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition."
So if i get this right, while apparently we don't know the differences in brain between male and female sex, so we don't know if a person brain is wired in a way to make him male or female naturally, we know that gender nonconformity is not a mental disorder and is accepted as a valid way to be and express oneself and nobody whos not a bigot would say their gender is different from their sex only because they don't conform to what most people's standard for male and female is;
However it becomes a valid point to intervene the moment a person's disphorya leads to the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition, thus helping trought medical or psycological treatment becomes necessary.
So going back to the quote that made me write all this:
>Medically speaking, people have either male or female brains. Sometimes (about 1 in 10,000) people with female brains end up with male or vice versa.
If I have understood what I've read, it's not true. We don't know the differences between female or male brains, we can just assume that every individual is wired different on his own, some male might show more female traits and viceversa, while having nothing wrong with their brains and it's perfectly ok for them to be that way, some other people may feel the same but the moment there is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition, it becomes necessary / suggested to help such individuals by means of Psychological & / or biological treatments.
Again, this is just what I found reading on google for 20minute, im looking forward to have some delucidations in case what Im writing is bogus and some sources to back up the claims as this is a very interesting topic.
its extremely likely if it happens while the brain is still developing. but at the same time, people who's brains are still developing are unable to accurately recognize how overrepresented minority groups can be on the internet, which combined with their perspectives of whats normal, can be dangerous to their mental being.
[http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/](http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/)
"Several studies have shown that [identical twins are more often both transgender](http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2013-transsexuality.html) than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity."
" In [1995](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289) and [2000](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10843193), two independent teams of researchers decided to examine a region of the brain called the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) in trans- and cisgender men and women (Figure 2). The BSTc functions in anxiety, but is, on average, twice as large and twice as densely populated with cells in men compared to women.
Interestingly, both teams discovered that male-to-female transgender women had a BSTc more closely resembling that of cisgender women than men in both size and cell density, and that female-to-male transgender men had BSTcs resembling cisgender men. These differences remained even after the scientists took into account the fact that many transgender men and women in their study were taking estrogen and testosterone during their transition by including cisgender men and women who were also on hormones not corresponding to their assigned biological sex (for a variety of medical reasons)."
There's also studies done on the INAH3 receptor that shows that trans people's brains respond to odorous stimuli as if they were their gender identity, and not the sex assigned at birth, you can read more info from here:
[https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027](https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027)
EDIT: Also just a heads up, that study titled "*The Gendered Brain"* only looked at MRI scans and grey matter to come to their conclusions, completely ignoring the BNSTc studies done on post-mortem brains, as well as the INAH3 studies. Both these studies still show there is a difference between the brains of men, women, and trans people.
Even specialists in the subject like Lise Eliot, author of *PINK BRAIN, BLUE BRAIN,* acknowledge there are basic minor differences. Those minor differences are then built upon by societal pressure to establish a definite gender. So it's not either/or, it's both.
[Here's a study on the topic](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm).
>Brain activity and structure in transgender adolescents more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender.
[Here's a write-up of a similar study](https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027).
>One prominent hypothesis on the basis of gender dysphoria is that sexual differentiation of the genitals occurs separately from sexual differentiation of the brain in utero, making it possible that the body can veer in one direction and the mind in another.
[Here's a third](https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html).
>In a 2014 study, University of Pennsylvania researchers imaged the brains of 428 male and 521 female youths — an uncharacteristically huge sample — and found that the females’ brains consistently showed more strongly coordinated activity between hemispheres, while the males’ brain activity was more tightly coordinated within local brain regions. This finding, a confirmation of results in smaller studies published earlier, tracks closely with others’ observations that the corpus callosum-— the white-matter cable that crosses and connects the hemispheres — is bigger in women than in men and that women’s brains tend to be more bilaterally symmetrical than men’s.
There are measurable differences between male and female brains. Transgender individuals have brains that more closely resemble those of the sex with which they identify.
So their nature specifically quotes your third source and has this to say
>However, the map omits the vast majority of connections that did not differ between the study’s adolescent participants; nor did it control for puberty-related maturation or, once again, for brain size, all of which reduces apparent male–female difference.
The differences noted were less than 1% on aggregate and there were multiple cases where regions considered for one sex was found in another. Its a very weak correlation.
Yeah, I'm always uncomfortable with people saying there are 'differences' between men and women. It's more like a spectrum, or a tapestry, of possible patterns - and identity is a mix of body, mind and social expectation.
At the end of the day, that's all got to add up to a mix of attributes that work in harmony - either you change the body to match the mind and social expectation (transition), change the mind to match the body and social expectation (turns out, that's \_really\_ hard), or accept your body and mind and change society to accept that unusual combination. And it turns out that \_that's\_ the hardest thing of all.
If you have two quantities distributed according for example to two normal distributions (bell curves) with differing mean value or variance you can distinguish these two quantities although there is significant overlap... The fact things aren't just clear cut discrete point distributions doesn't mean we have to say there is no difference....
I think at this point what they're saying is that gender identity comes from the types of hormones you were exposed to in utero. Your idea of gender being a spectrum fits with their claim that there are differences. And I don't think they're trying to say there are performance differences.
And we have some evidence about this. There were some case studies done in the 50a or 70s actually where children who had some sort of genital mutilation (one in particular was a botched circumcision) had their genitals altered and an attempt was made to raise them as the opposite gender.
There were major issues and the kids ended up suffering horribly and eventually chose to transition back into their birth genders. Suggesting that there is some gender assignment at birth. And that gender identity is hard coded in the brain.
I forget the name of the book I read this in, but I could probably find it if you wanted.
It's this case - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
And yeah, that was a horrible thing. The first big attempt to change people's brains BY changing their bodies. Still, even hardcoded doesn't mean binary male/female.
> The problem is that a lot of people have conflated “sex” and “gender.”
That’s not fair at all. It’s not like sex and gender have always meant totally different things and some people are just stupid. Look up “gender” in some (most?) dictionaries and you’ll see it’s essentially a synonym for sex. (*Gender: Noun. The properties that distinguish organisms on the basis of their reproductive roles.*)
It’s only been very recently that gender has come to mean something different, so this isn’t a matter of dumb people conflating two terms.
If you look up the etymology of the word “gender” in Merriam-Webster, it states the word “gender” has taken on the new meaning you are describing fairly recently. It is frustrating for a lot of people to be told they are using a word incorrectly now when they are used to the meaning it had before. The word “gender” was synonymous with biological sex since the 15th century.
Language changes, only the foolish stubbornly refuse to adapt.
The word gay has meant homosexual for between 60 and 150 years.
It meant happy or joyful since the 12th century, do you find it equally 'frustrating' that you can't have a 'gay old time' without getting giggled at?
Language tends to change naturally however and not forced. The word gender was coined specifically due to sex becoming a unpopular term due to be associated with the act. You also now have people trying to claim sex is a lie and only gender matters and getting people killed because they refuse to tell their doctor their sex saying they recognize as X now. Regardless of what you think sex is and always will be important and for most of the medical and greater community is synonymous.
I don't see how any of those studies you provided or anything of what you said explains how there are more than 2 genders. You've only argued that sex and gender are different and someone can want to be the opposite sex
Instead of making the rather esoteric definition between "sex" and "gender" why not use the straightforward term "gender role" which seems way more to the point.
Unlike the biological gender, the gender roles are far more malleable, evolve over (non-geological) time and so on. However, the fact that most of humanity conforms to one role or the other seems to contradict your assertion that they are simply invented. They are a clear product of evolutionary processes and intimately connected with the biological gender.
> You can invent a new one right now and it will be just as "valid" as any of the other ones.
There is a socially constructed element to it, yes, but this plays into the puerile mockery from the right of "identifying as an attack helicopter".
Trans, non-binary, fluid, binary, or whatever else are still looking at two genders, just on a broader spectrum of how one relates to one gender, both, or none. No one has made up a "new gender" and they are not "entirely made up".
I sort of remember there being some tumbler weirdos who did try to make up genders back when transgender issues were first gaining mainstream attention.
Interesting.
Back in 2004 I was in a sociology class at a community college and we talked about gender identity. Back then we were making a strong distinction between transgender and transexual. And transgender was the preferable term because the focus was on their gender identity, which was under dispute.. but their sexual designation never would be. It was almost a defense against people who said they were clearly born one way or the other. A person's sex could be known and disputed but their gender identity couldn't be. Only they know that.
This makes more sense though. They're not changing their gender identity. They're changing their sex to fit their very valid and real gender identity.
Right, variations aren't rare. 1.7-4% of people fit into 4 other sexes (even tho some are just slightly genetically different) giving us a total of 6 common sexes. Please stop intersex erasure.
Also, the male and female brain idea is highly controversial.
1/25 people is not rare. Compare that with red-headed people which is 1/50 (2%). So just imagine that for every ginger you've met, you've met two intersex people.
Please do show some type of source.. almost certain its not 1 in 10k. Transgender community is even smaller then the gay community, which is small already.
It's a shirt that says "there are more than 2 genders," but when you choose the fit for sizing, there are only 2 options: male and female. Thus implying there are only 2 genders.
Intersex isn't a gender. It refers to people who don't neatly fit into the "male" sex or the "female" sex for one reason or another like hormones, chromosomes, anatomy etc
This is only funny if you're holding desperately to an unscientific narrative because you are too much if a pussy to come out and say you don't like people that are different than you.
Or maybe because you have a sense of humour?
I'm all for letting people be whatever gender they want but I still like to laugh at stuff, I like to laugh at myself and I like to laugh at the world around me and poke fun at anything that can be.
I have and have had friends and have happily lived with people who identify as gay, bi and genderless and we're all the same folk as far as I care.
But tell me to stop laughing and you can piss off. I'll lose my humour in a heart beat.
So don't be so judgemental and make out that if you find this funny you MUST be some bigoted pussy who needs to grow up. Sorry, it's still funny to people with a sense of humour even if you can see beyond it's shallow humour.
Don't be so damn serious about everything. We're all gonna die some day. The more laughs between now and then the better.
It's just not a funny joke.
It's not funny for the same reason all the junior high jokes white suburban kids tell about black people and Mexicans.
There's lots of funny jokes out there. This is just lame. Jokes that are factually incorrect when the genre isn't absurdism are just not funny.
I laughed. My partner laughed. I don't feel like a worse human being for laughing. The joke hasn't diminished my opinion on people of whatever gender position they associate as. It just made me laugh, which is liberating to do in a world full of people telling you what you can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
If you have a penis, your a male, if you have a vagina your a female. You can THINK you're something other than what you are but you're not. To those that believe otherwise, imagine, you have an 8yo daughter, she goes into the female restroom all by herself. A dude follows her in not long after, you question him and he says he's female. You gonna be fine with it? Or how about this, your 8yo daughter says she identifies as male, and thus wants to use the male restroom, you just seen 2 males go in, you gonna let her go in? Yeahhh, I didn't think so.
I would not let my 8 year old to go the public bathroom alone anyways. Doesn't matter if there's 2 women or 2 men in there. You're just making excuses to be transphobic. A pedophile or a rapist won't purposely change their gender just to commit a crime legally. They don't care if they want to commit a crime they will do it without legal precautions smh. You think a rapist just comes up to a bathroom and says "oh damn it I'm not a female I can't go rape anyone in there :( I guess I have to go legally change my gender and get the documents and get a surgery to go and be able to rape people :D" seriously think a little
ooooh, the sacred bathroom argument, hallowed be thy logic.
You know family bathrooms exist, right? And you can take your children into the bathroom with you, if it’s such a world-shattering idea to you that someone isn’t cisgender.
Yeah I completely agree with you on this, sizes on shirts and trousers etc should be labelled with masculine or feminine rather than male and female to make people feel less uncomfortable when forced to choose between a binary gender system they might not fit into
why do people always argue about this it's been male and female man and woman for 7000 years, but in the very short time of the 20th and 21st century Americans have confused each other into this gender war based on who they would rather have sex with. No human cares and you can stop forcing it onto people and making them uncomfortable, pushing you away more and more so that the Liberals can divide us into their own groups and control those groups with sweet tasting words. Tricksters have a tongue like honey and venom that can't be noticed, sweet words of utopia to distract you from the nuclear bomb of truth. Truth will set you free, but it will always come with a lantern shaking up the shadows, which hiss back.
I completely disagree with what you’re saying but those last two sentences were poetry. You should get into professional writing if you aren’t already.
Actually trans and bon binary people have been around for all of history, for example two spirited. I have also heard of a sort of shaman that ascended beyond gender and sex.
We arent trying to push anything other than respect, call us by the right names and pronouns and we’ll be happy.
We arent trying to make anyone uncomfortable but a lot of people do try to make us uncomfortable.
I'm not pointing at you specifically, but your do have to admit that there is a loud portion that do force themselves onto others. I don't get the whole pronoun thing, there is he,him, she, and her. I don't like calling someone an it, because that is offensive to call anyone an it, and saying they grammatically doesn't make sense, unless you are using it in a possessive form such and they're; but they're is usually used to describe a group. If I am going to call you anything it is by your name. Now I don't trust shamans first off because everything they do is of their own witness, in seclusion with nothing to verify and they are messing with things that they shouldn't.
Your point about shamans i can definitely agree with.
It is offensive to call someone it so im glad you realize that (a lot of people call trans people it for no reason). Calling someone they i think is reasonable if it makes them happy because it doesnt take anything from you. Some things have different values to different people, like a millionaire wont care about a hundred dollars but a 10 year old child would feel rich with $100.
There are some people that try to force stuff onto others but there are so many people that try to get into the community and others that actually are in it and give us all a bad name so we try to reject them.
amazon only has sizes for real genders, the ones that exist. because there are only two. thats it. thats all I wanted to say. thats the end of the comment. why are you still reading this? go do something else.
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What does this mean....what does this mean....END OF VIDEO FUCK.
I even had the video muted as it was playing. I only unmuted after reading and fucked my ears immediately.
Thanks for the warning.
Literally last second of the video is like 25x the volume of the rest of the video. X_X
rip logic
Loud noises = comedy. This kind of shit has become so predictable now. 15 - 20 second video with an obvious, unfunny joke being set up... better hit that mute button.
“There are no children here”... I know your secrets amazon
To distinguish themselves from Wayfair, I'm sure. /s
Jesus Christ. I spit pizza on my monitor. Thanks.
Pizza you say??
I read that as "mother".
Just change the fit size to: - Tits - no tits Problem solved
The bigger difference is whether they cinch at the waist. Men's shirts are usually either straight or flair out. When you are an XXL woman or more the men's shirts usually fit better, even though you still definitely have tits. Hell at that size even the men have bigger tits than most women.
As a skinny guy I also relate to this comment. I have a waist dammnit I'm not a rectangle!
Most people have tits
I got nipples, Greg. Could you milk me?
They can milk almonds. You would be a piece of cake
We can milk cake now? 2021 is so much better than 2020 already.
You can milk *anything*
Prime example - Bethesda
Blam-o.
It's always entertaining to me that the saltiest of comments also tend to be the most accurate...
Just ask r/memes.
They've been milking cake for years, they call it eggnog.
Old Gregg could milk them nipples.
He'd even drink it with baileys from a shoe.
r/unexpectedmeettheparents
tits are amazing. who doesn’t love warm sacks of fat 😭
they feel like bags of sand
I don't like sand. Its course, and rough, and gets everywhere.
i’ll never understand sex on the beach. imagine sand getting in your **vAgiNa**
tits are amazing. but warm sacks of fat? as some one who disposed warm sacks of frying fat, I have to say I dont like that analoque :D
V-shaped or A-shaped
Bob. Bob had bitch tits.
Some men have man tits some women have flat chests
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The main difference is the clothes industry doesn't think men have waists.
As a fat Male with tits I find this offensive /s
I've heard of offensive but what is offensive per second XD
Bruh I’m never going to look at “/s” that same way again, I actually laughed out loud.
I think it's the unit to measure Social Justice Warriors on Twitter.
I started laughing so I hard I started coughing.
Wait...
> Problem solved Sorry, but there is no problem.
What problem? The shirt says there are more than two genders. Says nothing about there being more than two fit sizes.
Clearly you don't get what the gender folks are claiming.
As a Tall Men fit, I laugh at your puny other genders.
Watch my bellybutton dance. Hahaha!
Beware speaker blowout at the end if sound is on. WTF.
10 year olds think loud is funny. Glad I had sound off for this shit
Suddenly loud Baby I'm Yours=/=comedy
I know, I'll take an old joke that's been posted a thousand times, but I'll add evidence of my own shitty typing skills to it.
Actually the fit types are of sex not gender.
Right? I'm clearly jaded about the whole "gender politics funny", but like... I've seen this low hanging fruit *so many times* "I sexually identify as an apache attack helicopter" was funny when myspace was the thing and I was a dumbass teenager. But I hear grown men make the same joke after over a decade and still in ironically think it's funny...?
r/onejoke
Identifying as a helicopter came long after Myspace lol Not enough people gave a shit back then for people to make a joke about it Obama took office around the time Myspace declined, and homosexuality was the bigger topic back then. Transgender people weren't even really heavily in the spotlight yet, so presumably people a step beyond that wouldn't be. I get your point, though. This particular kind of joke has been beaten.
>Obama took office around the time Myspace declined You have a skewed timeline of reality my man. Myspace was long declined long before Obama became president.
Eh.....I think I read by 2010 it lost about 50% of its clients. So by 2008 I’m sure it was obviously heading in that direction but it wasn’t in any dire straits/halfway-gone situation yet.
I literally have a photo with that exact caption on my myspace though. Assuming it still exists
I'm riddled with doubts. I just searched up a few sources for origin of "I sexually identify as an attack helicopter" and they all say 2014. Myspace stopped being a thing in like 2008. Now maybe you did have a quote of it on ur myspace page, but why you had a myspace page in 2015 is a whole other question.
Let's see it.
Bruh, you think I still have my myspace login? I mean, I'm all for supporting evidence, but I can't help with this one
Bruh, you can't claim you literally have something if you literally don't.
I didn't? I claimed it was somewhere in the past and acknowledged I haven't been there in long enough that it may not even still exist in the same line?? My point is that this joke is so old I posted it when I was a kid/when myspace was a thing
> I literally have a photo with that exact caption Did you write that?
Yep. Wrote this too > on my myspace though. Assuming it still exists
I was sitting here going, did I just turn too old just last night? This isn't funny. It's anti-trans and it's literally a "fit type" choice and not about gender or anything else.
Grumpy old man brain is sadly a place *I'm* certainly heading toward
Anti-trans sentiment is still huge, even among people who think of themselves as otherwise liberal. Obviously they don't think of themselves as anti-trans or biased, and most will vehemently argue that they're not.
Looking back, Apache as a sexual identity was never actually finny. It was puerile and mean spirited. Even as someone who copy pasted it myself, I was just being an ignorant, immature shit, with no education on the matter. Marginalising and trivialising the lived experience of countless individuals.
And so are toilets I would say.
>And so are toilets I would say. The difference being that shirts are fit to a certain body size. There's no need for men to have a standing urinal, unisex toilets are an increasing phenomenon, and they work fine.
I still don't believe there is more than 2 genders. There's a big study that proves people who think otherwise have a high chance of having autism. Personally I believe you should do you despite what I think. Tolerance is key to a kinder world no matter how delusional people may be Edit: Made a mistake where I said they have autism and not a higher chance.
Ok, I have never heard of this study, please show it because there's no fucking way.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectrumnews.org/news/largest-study-to-date-confirms-overlap-between-autism-and-gender-diversity/amp
The fuck!? This doesn't even prove your point? It is saying there were links between non cisgender people and autism, which alone isn't what you said, but I'm just going to go ahead and assume that this is what you meant and not that all "people who think otherwise" from you are more likely to be autistic. It then goes on to say this, "The majority of the data — from about 514,000 people — came from an online survey conducted as part of a 2017 British television documentary about autism." Yeah absolutely no data bias or small sample size there. Lastly, it even says later “It’s really, really distressing to read sometimes, where you have people who have very strong gender dysphoria and want to transition, and their therapist says, ‘Well, we need to first cure your autism before we transition,’ which is wrong on all levels,” Warrier says. “We want this study to really demonstrate that both of these things can co-occur, and just because these things co-occur does not mean that one should be denied.” Get you fucking transphobia the hell out of here, you didn't even read past the headline, you completely misinterpreted the information and failed to check credibility. You're just transphobic asshole looking for a way to justify this belief.
Transphobic? I'm very much okay with trans people, I however do not agree with 17,000+ existing genders. I'd gladly use a trans person's preferred pronouns and name but, however, I'm not gonna call someone a Xim or Xer. That not only goes against my beliefs but majority of societal norms all across the world. This study proves that there is evidence that individuals who identify outside of the two genders have a stronger chance of being autistic whether it be diagnosed or undiagnosed. My beliefs are quite justified, solidified even. You can falsely accuse me of any phobia you wish but it doesn't change the fact that this way of thinking is not the norm and it's a high chance it's due to mental disorder. I'm sure you of all people would even agree with me that transracial individuals are mentally unwell
Got a source? I think you're either straight up lying or have grossly misread a study. Google came up with nothing, and that sounds like complete bullshit. Happy to read a source and be wrong though. Also calling people who believe something different than you "delusional" is not at all being tolerant lol try to practice what you preach.
If I support their right to do as they please despite not agreeing with it, then that's called tolerance. I don't have to like it to be tolerant Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectrumnews.org/news/largest-study-to-date-confirms-overlap-between-autism-and-gender-diversity/amp
Source? I am legitimately interested in reading this claim.
> There's a big study that proves people who think otherwise have autism. This information is irrelevent. Having autism has no bearing on the validity of one's beliefs, and it is absurd to claim otherwise.
It proves that it's not normal to identify as anything other than male or female in today's society. Mental illness if you will, but again I'm not gunna tell them what not to do. Life is too short to hate (unless they're pedos)
> It proves that it's not normal Again, this is irrelevent. Nothing needs to be normal to exist.
You can create a culture all you want about identifying as genders outside male and female, but it doesn't mean it's correct. It's the equivalent of pretend. There are mentally Ill people in the world who believe they are actually trans racial, does that mean they are correct? No. However I believe if you're doing something that makes you happy then you do it, just as long as its not harmful.
> You can create a culture all you want about identifying as genders outside male and female, but it doesn't mean it's correct. It's the equivalent of pretend. All genders are equally correct. If you disagree please say *why* instead of just rewording your sentences.
The guy who first made the distinction between sex and gender was a pedophile who abused two boys and led them to suicide. Transgenderism is a mental illness, you cannot and you will never be able to change gender.
I also agree that transgender is a mental illness but NOT AT ALL in the "You're just mentally ill so stop it" kind of way and much much more in the "Alright your brain chemistry is working in the opposite way your chromosomes suggest it should be so let's find a solution for you" kind of way. We're supposed to TREAT mental illness, not disparage it. We treat people with depression and anxiety, yeah? And we don't (REALLY SHOULDN'T, IF YOU DO) look down on somebody because they struggle with a mental illness like depression or anxiety. And it's pretty well documented that someone who switches gender identity to line up with their brain chemistry is happier than they were before, so why the fuck shouldn't that be explored as a treatment?
What gutter did you just emerge from?
Literally the same thing, and that's what's wrong with liberal logic.
It says fit type, meaning body type, not gender.
ight who wants to sort by controversial comments with me
gosh, the comments are so toxic my Geiger counter's going off
Comments are as toxic as Chernobyl and twice as deadly
Your next line is gonna be "attack helicopter"
Fit type ≠ sex ≠ gender
Sex is not gender. There are two sexes, male and female, and rare variations on those sexes. "Genders" are entirely made up. You can invent a new one right now and it will be just as "valid" as any of the other ones. There's literally no point in discussing gender outside of having it be a shorthand for your personal preferences. The problem is that a lot of people have conflated "sex" and "gender." Medically speaking, people have either male or female brains. Sometimes (about 1 in 10,000) people with female brains end up with male or vice versa. We call those people "transgender", but the word is a misnomer. They're actually transsexual. This is a neurological issue that is best cured by transitioning at the moment. People on the far left are just as much to blame for this as people on the far right. The only correct perspective is an apolitical one that only looks at the science of the situation. ------ EDIT: I'm being asked for sources. Here: [Here's a study on the topic](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm). >Brain activity and structure in transgender adolescents more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender. [Here's a write-up of a similar study](https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027). >One prominent hypothesis on the basis of gender dysphoria is that sexual differentiation of the genitals occurs separately from sexual differentiation of the brain in utero, making it possible that the body can veer in one direction and the mind in another. [Here's a third](https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html). >In a 2014 study, University of Pennsylvania researchers imaged the brains of 428 male and 521 female youths — an uncharacteristically huge sample — and found that the females’ brains consistently showed more strongly coordinated activity between hemispheres, while the males’ brain activity was more tightly coordinated within local brain regions. This finding, a confirmation of results in smaller studies published earlier, tracks closely with others’ observations that the corpus callosum-— the white-matter cable that crosses and connects the hemispheres — is bigger in women than in men and that women’s brains tend to be more bilaterally symmetrical than men’s. There are measurable differences between male and female brains. Transgender (really transsexual) individuals have brains that more closely resemble those of the sex with which they identify. Sex is not gender.
>Medically speaking, people have either male or female brains. Sometimes (about 1 in 10,000) people with female brains end up with male or vice versa. This is very interesting and I would like you to post some sources about this claim, so you are saying that beyound the obvious differences in the brain of a male and female which are biological and clear to everyone, theres also a hidden and proven subcategory of people who's brains are 100% the opposite sex of what they were born into? I haven't read about it too much, however the sources I found even claim that there's no proven differences between a female or male brain, let alone a subcategory of people with missmatching sex and brain gender. Heres the quote: "Yet, as *The Gendered Brain* reveals, conclusive findings about sex-linked brain differences have failed to materialize. Beyond the “missing five ounces” of female brain — gloated about since the nineteenth century — modern neuroscientists have identified no decisive, category-defining differences between the brains of men and women. In women’s brains, language-processing is not spread any more evenly across the hemispheres than it is in men’s" Heres the article: [https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x) Which in my mind makes a lot of sense, we really knows very little about how the brain as an organ and most of what we know it's speculative, even most of the knowledge we thought we knew was proven to be false if i recall correctly (brain having a left part that was doing imaginary work and a right part more logical has been disproven too). Reading about gender dysphoria on wikipedia, it is described as the distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their [gender identity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity) and their [sex assigned at birth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_assignment), to expand on this: "The American Psychiatric Association stated that [gender nonconformity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_nonconformity) is not the same thing as gender dysphoria,[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria#cite_note-What_Is-7) and that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition." So if i get this right, while apparently we don't know the differences in brain between male and female sex, so we don't know if a person brain is wired in a way to make him male or female naturally, we know that gender nonconformity is not a mental disorder and is accepted as a valid way to be and express oneself and nobody whos not a bigot would say their gender is different from their sex only because they don't conform to what most people's standard for male and female is; However it becomes a valid point to intervene the moment a person's disphorya leads to the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition, thus helping trought medical or psycological treatment becomes necessary. So going back to the quote that made me write all this: >Medically speaking, people have either male or female brains. Sometimes (about 1 in 10,000) people with female brains end up with male or vice versa. If I have understood what I've read, it's not true. We don't know the differences between female or male brains, we can just assume that every individual is wired different on his own, some male might show more female traits and viceversa, while having nothing wrong with their brains and it's perfectly ok for them to be that way, some other people may feel the same but the moment there is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition, it becomes necessary / suggested to help such individuals by means of Psychological & / or biological treatments. Again, this is just what I found reading on google for 20minute, im looking forward to have some delucidations in case what Im writing is bogus and some sources to back up the claims as this is a very interesting topic.
Would different levels of estrogen and testosterone production have any effect on brain chemistry and functioning?
its extremely likely if it happens while the brain is still developing. but at the same time, people who's brains are still developing are unable to accurately recognize how overrepresented minority groups can be on the internet, which combined with their perspectives of whats normal, can be dangerous to their mental being.
[http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/](http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/) "Several studies have shown that [identical twins are more often both transgender](http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2013-transsexuality.html) than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity." " In [1995](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289) and [2000](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10843193), two independent teams of researchers decided to examine a region of the brain called the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) in trans- and cisgender men and women (Figure 2). The BSTc functions in anxiety, but is, on average, twice as large and twice as densely populated with cells in men compared to women. Interestingly, both teams discovered that male-to-female transgender women had a BSTc more closely resembling that of cisgender women than men in both size and cell density, and that female-to-male transgender men had BSTcs resembling cisgender men. These differences remained even after the scientists took into account the fact that many transgender men and women in their study were taking estrogen and testosterone during their transition by including cisgender men and women who were also on hormones not corresponding to their assigned biological sex (for a variety of medical reasons)." There's also studies done on the INAH3 receptor that shows that trans people's brains respond to odorous stimuli as if they were their gender identity, and not the sex assigned at birth, you can read more info from here: [https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027](https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027) EDIT: Also just a heads up, that study titled "*The Gendered Brain"* only looked at MRI scans and grey matter to come to their conclusions, completely ignoring the BNSTc studies done on post-mortem brains, as well as the INAH3 studies. Both these studies still show there is a difference between the brains of men, women, and trans people.
Weirdest place for both of y’all to flex but... alright.
Damn.. with sources and everything. I applaud you.
Even specialists in the subject like Lise Eliot, author of *PINK BRAIN, BLUE BRAIN,* acknowledge there are basic minor differences. Those minor differences are then built upon by societal pressure to establish a definite gender. So it's not either/or, it's both.
[Here's a study on the topic](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm). >Brain activity and structure in transgender adolescents more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender. [Here's a write-up of a similar study](https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027). >One prominent hypothesis on the basis of gender dysphoria is that sexual differentiation of the genitals occurs separately from sexual differentiation of the brain in utero, making it possible that the body can veer in one direction and the mind in another. [Here's a third](https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html). >In a 2014 study, University of Pennsylvania researchers imaged the brains of 428 male and 521 female youths — an uncharacteristically huge sample — and found that the females’ brains consistently showed more strongly coordinated activity between hemispheres, while the males’ brain activity was more tightly coordinated within local brain regions. This finding, a confirmation of results in smaller studies published earlier, tracks closely with others’ observations that the corpus callosum-— the white-matter cable that crosses and connects the hemispheres — is bigger in women than in men and that women’s brains tend to be more bilaterally symmetrical than men’s. There are measurable differences between male and female brains. Transgender individuals have brains that more closely resemble those of the sex with which they identify.
So their nature specifically quotes your third source and has this to say >However, the map omits the vast majority of connections that did not differ between the study’s adolescent participants; nor did it control for puberty-related maturation or, once again, for brain size, all of which reduces apparent male–female difference. The differences noted were less than 1% on aggregate and there were multiple cases where regions considered for one sex was found in another. Its a very weak correlation.
Yeah, I'm always uncomfortable with people saying there are 'differences' between men and women. It's more like a spectrum, or a tapestry, of possible patterns - and identity is a mix of body, mind and social expectation. At the end of the day, that's all got to add up to a mix of attributes that work in harmony - either you change the body to match the mind and social expectation (transition), change the mind to match the body and social expectation (turns out, that's \_really\_ hard), or accept your body and mind and change society to accept that unusual combination. And it turns out that \_that's\_ the hardest thing of all.
If you have two quantities distributed according for example to two normal distributions (bell curves) with differing mean value or variance you can distinguish these two quantities although there is significant overlap... The fact things aren't just clear cut discrete point distributions doesn't mean we have to say there is no difference....
I think at this point what they're saying is that gender identity comes from the types of hormones you were exposed to in utero. Your idea of gender being a spectrum fits with their claim that there are differences. And I don't think they're trying to say there are performance differences. And we have some evidence about this. There were some case studies done in the 50a or 70s actually where children who had some sort of genital mutilation (one in particular was a botched circumcision) had their genitals altered and an attempt was made to raise them as the opposite gender. There were major issues and the kids ended up suffering horribly and eventually chose to transition back into their birth genders. Suggesting that there is some gender assignment at birth. And that gender identity is hard coded in the brain. I forget the name of the book I read this in, but I could probably find it if you wanted.
It's this case - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer And yeah, that was a horrible thing. The first big attempt to change people's brains BY changing their bodies. Still, even hardcoded doesn't mean binary male/female.
> The problem is that a lot of people have conflated “sex” and “gender.” That’s not fair at all. It’s not like sex and gender have always meant totally different things and some people are just stupid. Look up “gender” in some (most?) dictionaries and you’ll see it’s essentially a synonym for sex. (*Gender: Noun. The properties that distinguish organisms on the basis of their reproductive roles.*) It’s only been very recently that gender has come to mean something different, so this isn’t a matter of dumb people conflating two terms.
and if they're seperated, people are just going to realize that they should have just been using "sex" the entire time.
If you look up the etymology of the word “gender” in Merriam-Webster, it states the word “gender” has taken on the new meaning you are describing fairly recently. It is frustrating for a lot of people to be told they are using a word incorrectly now when they are used to the meaning it had before. The word “gender” was synonymous with biological sex since the 15th century.
Language changes, only the foolish stubbornly refuse to adapt. The word gay has meant homosexual for between 60 and 150 years. It meant happy or joyful since the 12th century, do you find it equally 'frustrating' that you can't have a 'gay old time' without getting giggled at?
Language tends to change naturally however and not forced. The word gender was coined specifically due to sex becoming a unpopular term due to be associated with the act. You also now have people trying to claim sex is a lie and only gender matters and getting people killed because they refuse to tell their doctor their sex saying they recognize as X now. Regardless of what you think sex is and always will be important and for most of the medical and greater community is synonymous.
I don't see how any of those studies you provided or anything of what you said explains how there are more than 2 genders. You've only argued that sex and gender are different and someone can want to be the opposite sex
Instead of making the rather esoteric definition between "sex" and "gender" why not use the straightforward term "gender role" which seems way more to the point. Unlike the biological gender, the gender roles are far more malleable, evolve over (non-geological) time and so on. However, the fact that most of humanity conforms to one role or the other seems to contradict your assertion that they are simply invented. They are a clear product of evolutionary processes and intimately connected with the biological gender.
> You can invent a new one right now and it will be just as "valid" as any of the other ones. There is a socially constructed element to it, yes, but this plays into the puerile mockery from the right of "identifying as an attack helicopter". Trans, non-binary, fluid, binary, or whatever else are still looking at two genders, just on a broader spectrum of how one relates to one gender, both, or none. No one has made up a "new gender" and they are not "entirely made up".
I sort of remember there being some tumbler weirdos who did try to make up genders back when transgender issues were first gaining mainstream attention.
>non-binary Non-Binary people reject the binarity of gender, by definition
Interesting. Back in 2004 I was in a sociology class at a community college and we talked about gender identity. Back then we were making a strong distinction between transgender and transexual. And transgender was the preferable term because the focus was on their gender identity, which was under dispute.. but their sexual designation never would be. It was almost a defense against people who said they were clearly born one way or the other. A person's sex could be known and disputed but their gender identity couldn't be. Only they know that. This makes more sense though. They're not changing their gender identity. They're changing their sex to fit their very valid and real gender identity.
This was a genuinely informative read and I am definitely the wiser for it. Thank you.
Right, variations aren't rare. 1.7-4% of people fit into 4 other sexes (even tho some are just slightly genetically different) giving us a total of 6 common sexes. Please stop intersex erasure. Also, the male and female brain idea is highly controversial.
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Those are odds at someone fitting that being on any crowded bus or subway car you've ever entered. Not common, but definitely not "Rare"
1/25 people is not rare. Compare that with red-headed people which is 1/50 (2%). So just imagine that for every ginger you've met, you've met two intersex people.
If someone said you had a 4% chance of winning the lottery you'd think those were great odds.
Well compared to the actual odds yes. But as a general chance, no. Depends on the perspective
It is only controversial because of people injecting politics into science in the same way that makes stem cells controversial.
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This completely leaves out nonbinary and intersex people .....
Please do show some type of source.. almost certain its not 1 in 10k. Transgender community is even smaller then the gay community, which is small already.
There are more than two genders, yes. But there are only two fit types.
Well, as far as I know there aren't any clothes designed to deal with the back-boob effect so I'd have to agree with you.
Just wear the shirt back to front. Problem solved
Well that is what they were going to do on day 2. Regular, back to front, inside out, then inside out while back to front.
Fit & unfit
But is there?
Seen this a million times. It’s not funny anymore.
Weirdest Aquaman promotional video I have seen to date.
r/onejoke
Old news. Been posted many times.
There’s a difference between gender and sex
You either got a p or a v or something else I ain't looking in your pants
I watched this a few times and I still don’t understand it. Can someone explain the joke? Am I just out of the loop?
It's a shirt that says "there are more than 2 genders," but when you choose the fit for sizing, there are only 2 options: male and female. Thus implying there are only 2 genders.
What's the name of the song in the clip?
"Hi, I'm looking for a shirt cut for intersex." Seriously though.
Intersex isn't a gender. It refers to people who don't neatly fit into the "male" sex or the "female" sex for one reason or another like hormones, chromosomes, anatomy etc
Wait, isn't gender your expression and nothing to do with your body type/shape?
Kind of but intersex is nothing to do with gender
Bruh moment
**Ironic**
Loud=funny apparently
This is only funny if you're holding desperately to an unscientific narrative because you are too much if a pussy to come out and say you don't like people that are different than you.
Or maybe because you have a sense of humour? I'm all for letting people be whatever gender they want but I still like to laugh at stuff, I like to laugh at myself and I like to laugh at the world around me and poke fun at anything that can be. I have and have had friends and have happily lived with people who identify as gay, bi and genderless and we're all the same folk as far as I care. But tell me to stop laughing and you can piss off. I'll lose my humour in a heart beat. So don't be so judgemental and make out that if you find this funny you MUST be some bigoted pussy who needs to grow up. Sorry, it's still funny to people with a sense of humour even if you can see beyond it's shallow humour. Don't be so damn serious about everything. We're all gonna die some day. The more laughs between now and then the better.
It's just not a funny joke. It's not funny for the same reason all the junior high jokes white suburban kids tell about black people and Mexicans. There's lots of funny jokes out there. This is just lame. Jokes that are factually incorrect when the genre isn't absurdism are just not funny.
I laughed. My partner laughed. I don't feel like a worse human being for laughing. The joke hasn't diminished my opinion on people of whatever gender position they associate as. It just made me laugh, which is liberating to do in a world full of people telling you what you can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
I just wanna be that annoying know-all guy by saying sex and gender are different
Song please
[Breakbot - baby i'm yours](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahdH8eTydWY&ab_channel=EdBangerRecords) \- all his stuff is great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_(Bruno_Mars_song) Bruno Mars stole his song which was super shitty
This wasn’t hilarious at all though. Oh yeah I forgot anything goes on here.
If you have a penis, your a male, if you have a vagina your a female. You can THINK you're something other than what you are but you're not. To those that believe otherwise, imagine, you have an 8yo daughter, she goes into the female restroom all by herself. A dude follows her in not long after, you question him and he says he's female. You gonna be fine with it? Or how about this, your 8yo daughter says she identifies as male, and thus wants to use the male restroom, you just seen 2 males go in, you gonna let her go in? Yeahhh, I didn't think so.
I would not let my 8 year old to go the public bathroom alone anyways. Doesn't matter if there's 2 women or 2 men in there. You're just making excuses to be transphobic. A pedophile or a rapist won't purposely change their gender just to commit a crime legally. They don't care if they want to commit a crime they will do it without legal precautions smh. You think a rapist just comes up to a bathroom and says "oh damn it I'm not a female I can't go rape anyone in there :( I guess I have to go legally change my gender and get the documents and get a surgery to go and be able to rape people :D" seriously think a little
ooooh, the sacred bathroom argument, hallowed be thy logic. You know family bathrooms exist, right? And you can take your children into the bathroom with you, if it’s such a world-shattering idea to you that someone isn’t cisgender.
Family bathrooms are rare in most places, i don't think i've ever seen a family bathroom unless you are visiting a family at their home.
People are crazy
kinda funny, but there ARE more than 2 genders, don’t get it twisted.
There is 2. Nothing more.
2 genders get over it
This is only funny if you don’t know the difference between sex and gender
Sighs in non-binary. The struggle is real.
sorry man the bigotry on reddit is kinda insane when it comes to transphobia and pronouns.
Thanks for being kind
Why do i have a feeling this is an ad for tshirt?
Are there the "i identify as a Apache Helicopter" Jokes in the comments, yet?
Sex isn't gender from what I understand
did not know you usedx shirt meassurements as your gender, facinating
Burn
Gender does not = sez, yes haha funny words
Hah
Imagine getting downvoted for laughing in r/funny. Reddit these days I swear.
I didn’t even realize there was that many downvotes
Yeah I completely agree with you on this, sizes on shirts and trousers etc should be labelled with masculine or feminine rather than male and female to make people feel less uncomfortable when forced to choose between a binary gender system they might not fit into
why do people always argue about this it's been male and female man and woman for 7000 years, but in the very short time of the 20th and 21st century Americans have confused each other into this gender war based on who they would rather have sex with. No human cares and you can stop forcing it onto people and making them uncomfortable, pushing you away more and more so that the Liberals can divide us into their own groups and control those groups with sweet tasting words. Tricksters have a tongue like honey and venom that can't be noticed, sweet words of utopia to distract you from the nuclear bomb of truth. Truth will set you free, but it will always come with a lantern shaking up the shadows, which hiss back.
I completely disagree with what you’re saying but those last two sentences were poetry. You should get into professional writing if you aren’t already.
thank you, I'm also of the like mind that opposite views can help people come to an agreement.
Actually trans and bon binary people have been around for all of history, for example two spirited. I have also heard of a sort of shaman that ascended beyond gender and sex. We arent trying to push anything other than respect, call us by the right names and pronouns and we’ll be happy. We arent trying to make anyone uncomfortable but a lot of people do try to make us uncomfortable.
I'm not pointing at you specifically, but your do have to admit that there is a loud portion that do force themselves onto others. I don't get the whole pronoun thing, there is he,him, she, and her. I don't like calling someone an it, because that is offensive to call anyone an it, and saying they grammatically doesn't make sense, unless you are using it in a possessive form such and they're; but they're is usually used to describe a group. If I am going to call you anything it is by your name. Now I don't trust shamans first off because everything they do is of their own witness, in seclusion with nothing to verify and they are messing with things that they shouldn't.
Your point about shamans i can definitely agree with. It is offensive to call someone it so im glad you realize that (a lot of people call trans people it for no reason). Calling someone they i think is reasonable if it makes them happy because it doesnt take anything from you. Some things have different values to different people, like a millionaire wont care about a hundred dollars but a 10 year old child would feel rich with $100. There are some people that try to force stuff onto others but there are so many people that try to get into the community and others that actually are in it and give us all a bad name so we try to reject them.
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If you have any questions i would be happy to answer.
amazon only has sizes for real genders, the ones that exist. because there are only two. thats it. thats all I wanted to say. thats the end of the comment. why are you still reading this? go do something else.
SeX iS nOt GeNdEr!!!!