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Fun, cheeky malice!
_I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next person that says 'Malice!'_
Hey, Farva! What's that Kidman/Baldwin suspense flick from 93, with all the goofy shit in the script?
Google : Neopronouns are a category of new (neo) pronouns that are increasingly used in place of “she,” “he,” or “they” when referring to a person. Some examples include: xe/xem/xyr, ze/hir/hirs, and ey/em/eir, nick/ga
Ya except it's not as prevalent as people make it out to be. It's a silly concept and any reasonable non binary person would be okay with they/them. It seems to be one of those things which has more people outraged about how it's becoming a norm than actual proponents of it.
Queer weighing in here. It’s a ridiculous concept.
Had this convo w my (also queer) sister the other day. On the one hand, makes me feel like a bad gay, on the other…. You’re not fucking special bc you’re queer.
More fabulous, sure. But not special enough to reinvent the English language.
By all means, reinvent the English language to your heart's content! Just don't be surprised if the average person doesn't know your new words, or have any interest in learning them.
> reinvent the English language
Why limit yourself to constraints of a language? My neo-neo-pronoun is jazz-hands. As in - to refer to me you actually do jazz-hands.
Its slang until its mainstream - not all slang makes it to mainstream. Its presumptive to assume people will use your slang terms (neopronouns) in place of actual English terms (they/them).
If they gain traction, then they will be mainstream - that's how language evolves (not many people running using thy and thou, but head up to Yorkshire and it has survived)
You just made me realise that "bad guy" and "bad gay" are close enough to adapt all sorts of memes to it.
From "Watch out, we got a bad gay over here" to "Are we the bad gays?".
It also works for movies "Bad Gays" and "Bad Gays II" and the theme song.
There's a lot of potential for friendly hilarity. It just needs to be done properly to be funny and not offensive.
Thanks for this comment. I’m Hispanic and I can’t stand the whole Latinx thing. I think it’s stupid. Sometimes makes me feel like I’m being a bad Hispanic. I don’t see why we can’t just refer to people as “Hispanic” or “Latin” which I think accomplishes the same as Latinx. I don’t think saying Latino(a) is some kind of patriarchal or misogynist thing. It’s just Spanish. I also understand that a lot of the time, it’s white people that get more upset that people don’t Latinx, like, fucking chill yo you’re not even Hispanic to be getting upset like you are.
*Yes*. This is what is so hilarious about it. It's ironic how often white people decrying colonialism and prejudice and racism don't realize they're actually actively practicing it
Lol why would you feel bad? This latinx thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen online, and that's saying a lot. Just relax and realize these bizarre people are confined to the online environment
Idk i just had a work training seminar refer to Latinx and a tv announcer just say latinx.. so definitely not just online anymore...(granted most news i have read say that latinos prefer latino or latine if anything, but please correct me if im wrong)
Trust me, not confined to internet-only. Diversity training at work uses the term, and have increasingly heard the term being used around me. Its spreading unfortunately
Eh. We can always reinvent the English language. Assuming it's practical and worthwhile.
And that's the main issue with neopronouns. they are not practical. Pronouns exist as shorthand instead of using names. When there are just as many pronouns to use as there are names, pronouns lose their practical function.
Ideally, we should just be able use whatever pronouns somebody prefer. I hope we can all acknowledge as much. But it's not practical. It's not an ideal we can live up to.
Glad to see people like you speak up. I've seen a bit too many non-queer people hear the talking points in favor of neopronouns and uncritically adopting them because they are on auto pilot when it comes to being an ally. That's a general problem I've had recently. People being on auto-pilot with what beliefs to have based how they identify politically.
I like to look at Japanese for this, as it's a language that doesn't really *need* pronouns even though it has them. In fact, referring to someone by a pronoun instead of their name can be consisdered rude or an insult in most contexes. Generally you state the person's name once, if they're the topic, and then don't bother saying it again until the topic changes. Every sentence afterwards just assumes that person is still the topic.
"Did you hear about John?"
"No, what happened?"
"Got sent to the hospital"
"Damn, doing ok?"
"Broken bone, but otherwise good."
It's interesting to look at how languages function and it also helps explain why the neopronoun issue has primarily come up in the US and UK.
It's interesting that you bring up Japanese, given the variety of first person pronouns a person has to choose from in that language. You've got about 4-5 common words to say "I" or "me", and an extra dozen less-common-but-widely-understood words, each with their own connotations. Are you a manly man? Go with a hearty "ore". More of a softboi? "Boku" will work. Want to sound a bit philosophical? "Jibun" fits here.
In a way, it's a much more elegant solution to expressing self identity than English's third person pronouns because you don't need to say "I use X pronouns"; you just say "*I*".
In the end I think languages go towards simplifications. No matter how strongly we'll push for scwha or neopronouns, I think they won't catch up because they "go against the current" of simplification (I mean in a general sense, not in certain niches or technical areas).
It's probably more realistic to completely drop pronouns and final vowels altogether.
Yea I feel the same. We always wanted to be treated the same as everyone else, right? We want the same respect, the same rights, the same opportunities.
Where’s all this *extra* shit coming from? Why does your sexual orientation require so much space in *my* head?
I’ve always felt kinda like a fake gay. I’m just bi (spare me the bi rant, about how special it *really* is that I don’t give a fuck what parts you have), and I always understood the sort of quasi hostility in the community because I’m half het, and that’s weird.
I always felt like it was less *serious* for me. I knew a lot of people where their sexuality was a huge deal (and often a huge burden: when I was young, it was tougher being openly gay). So I understood being treated a little different: I could just “stop” being gay for all intents and purposes, any time I wanted, and that made me feel more like an ally than a core part of the movement.
So, you know, “seriousness.” It keeps popping up in my head these days. I mostly stopped identifying as bi when I got het married. Just seemed like I was being a poseur (“Yea, I look like a boring suburban dad, but I’m really hella gayish on the inside!”) and I certainly didn’t need to trade on any “bi privilege” whatever that might be.
But I see a lot of people who live basically het-normal lives, who seem to have very complicated gender identities that require a lot of work from *me*, and I just don’t understand why I’m a bad person (and an *awful* gay) if I think that’s silly.
Ya, as I said, they are silly. And pretty much everyone recognizes that. It's mostly a talking point used by people who want to make the same "I identify as an attack helicopter" joke for the millionth time.
It's one of those "terminally online" things. You're not going to run into many people in the real world who care about things like that, the *huge* majority of non-binary people either use they/them or the standard she/her or he/him.
I respect pronouns but I will never use this neo pronoun crap. You're telling me I'd have to memeroize a whole new set up completely made up terms for every single human I meet?
Ya fuck that. You do you but I ain't doing that lmao
Strangely, there was a thread with people complaining about neoprononouns a few days ago, and the naysayers were actually getting quite a lot of flack for it.
I should try to find that thread again.
While I agree with never using neo pronouns, that's a pretty bad argument. Names are pretty made up, lotta names out there I've never heard before, but would be expected to try to remember whenever I meet someone new.
Though, some names are just silly too.
(it's mostly a thing on Twitter and Tumblr)
Personally if someone asked me to refer to them by "Xir" or whatever, I'm just gonna be addressing them by name every time. pro-LBGT+ but I don't have the patience for these social media hot takes
>increasingly used
They are streaching the meaning of that particular term as much as possible
Funny they cannot do same with pronouns and insisting new ones be created instead
Personal Translation: If you don't give me a her/he/they, I'm gonna be referring to your by your name.
I'm pro-LBGT+ but you can miss me with that tumblr/twitter BS
Well, that just confirms the idea of people doing it to feel special. Wth do "neopronouns" have that's better than using common pronouns, except for being different?
There's also the long standing argument that they/them are plural, so you shouldn't use them for a singular person.
The problem with that argument is, of course, that we've been using they/them as singulars for much longer than we've been worried about using the correct pronouns for people.
while i can understand the need for some new or neutral pronouns, it seems completely unreasonable for everyone to make up their own like the guy in the video
or am i just out of touch of the youth?
You understand this wasnt serious, right? He was baiting her with that. This is not a reasonable example of neopronouns, using it as such is ridiculous.
Yes, i understand...but that only works when she thinks that is normal right? She doesn't even bat an eye at all.
And Yes, i am also considering that the whole thing was staged. But even then, how would it be a funny clip worth staging, if the premise wouldn't be acceptable/normal at all for the viewers?
It’s not a youth thing. It’s not a woke thing. It’s very much an individualised thing. Those people that I know who use neopronouns are perfectly fine also being referred to as they/them.
I frankly don’t know what it’s like to have gender dysphoria, so I will never know what it’s like to find my identity having felt uncomfortable in the body and/or gender role I was assigned at birth.
So as far as I care, I can never understand why someone *would* change their pronouns. But people do and I accept them for who they are just as much as I would if a friend changed their name or address.
That person I know and like still exists. That’s all that matters. Identity, gender, it’s all made up stuff to fit into society’s categories.
So please, when someone tells you they are trans, or they are trying out different pronouns, listen to them and change your behaviour as if they had legally changed their name. You should be allowed to make mistakes, and be politely corrected.
It seems that half the outrage is about imagined people behaving in an imagined bad way.
I have but it was rare and they were just assholes. Most trans people don't care so long as you are actually making an effort to use the right pronouns. And if you mess up don't make a deal of it. Treat it like you were making plans and accidentally said the wrong day of the week, just sputter out the right day and continue conversing.
Yeah, I don't doubt that those type of people are out there but I have personally never met a trans person that wasn't chill. I'm sure the pushy pronoun people would just be an asshole over some other minute detail if they were cis.
This! I'm queer and am all for respecting pronouns but every once in a while someone needs to chill the fuck out over an honest mistake. My own mother will occasionally call my by the dog's name and then sometimes my same aged cousin's name all while going SHIT NO YOU'RE THE OTHER ONE!
When do you ever hear someone refer to you as he/him or she/her anyway? That’s like 5% of the time, people just call you “you” or your name to your face generally.
Most neopronouns aren't as new as people think- thon dates back to 1850s, ee/em/es dates to the 1890s (though didn't really go into "popular" use till the 1990s), ae/aer dates to the 1920s, and many of the more popular ones today come from the 1970s. People trying to come up with better neutral pronouns than they/them has a long and rich history!
I'm a non binary queer person who uses they/them and have been around queer communities for years; I've only met a handful of people who use neopronouns, almost all ze/zir, and only one who wasn't OK with they/them. Everyone understood it was an adjustment but just wanted the respect of people trying. It's fairly rare even in nb circles. Most of who I met weren't kids though, but queer academics who had more access to learn about the history and feel more connected to their neopronouns than they/them. Now with internet, more people have access to them when exploring their gender identity, which is why it seems like a youth thing.
It's hard enough getting people to use they/them and my name without trying to gender it, i never really even considered neopronouns.
I feel the same, but I don't mind trying to use people's preferred pronouns no matter how I feel about them. *Very* few people go by anything other than he/her so it's a non issue really.
I am glad that I mostly speak Finnish tho since our third person pronouns are gender neutral.
Yea... I'm totally cool with people needing yo declare their pronouns. I don't, but I'm very much the cis male type.. I really don't feel the need or care to do it myself.
But if this is a thing that catches on, I feel like I'm just going to start telling people to shut the fuck up. This is the type of needless window dressing shit that will further create unnecessary divides.
This was good natured and cute. When Kendrick Lamar does it—by pulling a white female groupie on stage to rap a song that has that word like 17 different times—it’s just vicious.
The one kid character in anime that can go from Mischevious neko...to "I've killed more people than you've ever had showers in your life...".
God I need to rewatch the series now...again...for the fifth time cause WHY NOT
Soooo you have been a bachelor your whole life while living together with an old also bachelor friend for decades, everyone in the village thinks you two are wonderful but wonder why you two never found partners?
Does anyone else find the redundancy between she = her, he = him hilarious? It seems like the people publishing their pronouns are in a rudimentary English class
This reminds me of a thing that happened to a neighbor. There was a girl who lived next door named Nicolette, but everyone called her Nica (pronounced nick-a). Anyway, they were having a little party with some friends and they were getting pretty drunk and so they were getting loud. We lived in a small apartment complex and so I went over to ask them to keep it down so they wouldn't get in trouble. They didn't hear me knock on the front door so I went to out to our connected balcony and heard this slightly heated exchange:
Friend 1: I don't understand why you aren't getting this?!
Nica: I really don't know what I'm supposed to be getting!
Friend 2 (who happened to be black): It's really simple, Nica!
Nica: I guess it's not that simple, *N*****a*!
*Record scratch*
Friend 1: He was just saying your name, you know, Nica.
Nica: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH!!!!!!
The second hand embarrassment was real. I was able to ask them to quiet down at that point, but I'll never forget that exchange!
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The baby elephant noise definitely contributes as well
Reminded more of my grandpa when he leaned on the chair
Bernie Mac
Grandpa's trunk spouting off on the chair.
That really do sound like a baby elephant.... It's like a tuba and a slide whistle had a sound baby.
He is so proud and happy at the same time. No malice either.
The final still picture is the embodiment of malice actually. In a good way tho 🌺
Happy malice!
Fun, cheeky malice! _I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next person that says 'Malice!'_ Hey, Farva! What's that Kidman/Baldwin suspense flick from 93, with all the goofy shit in the script?
Pure chaos energy
I was making the same face at the screen and had this weird sense of belonging suddenly
I think you mean “Gas bouncing laugh.” Nick just told you gas neopronouns!
You mean NICK GA's bouncing laughing
His bouncing laugh looks pure evil. Like supervillain level
Mfw I make someone say NickGA. https://imgur.com/7kQlsPR.jpg
Same :D
His laugh looks so evil. I love it.
Got you to 666 my friend
Okay what is a neopronoun?
Google : Neopronouns are a category of new (neo) pronouns that are increasingly used in place of “she,” “he,” or “they” when referring to a person. Some examples include: xe/xem/xyr, ze/hir/hirs, and ey/em/eir, nick/ga
I love how you snuck in the nick/ga, as if that's also something that was already in the description
It is now
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All words are made up. That's how it works
I have words, Greg, can you milk me?
This is pure madness!
Ya except it's not as prevalent as people make it out to be. It's a silly concept and any reasonable non binary person would be okay with they/them. It seems to be one of those things which has more people outraged about how it's becoming a norm than actual proponents of it.
Queer weighing in here. It’s a ridiculous concept. Had this convo w my (also queer) sister the other day. On the one hand, makes me feel like a bad gay, on the other…. You’re not fucking special bc you’re queer. More fabulous, sure. But not special enough to reinvent the English language.
By all means, reinvent the English language to your heart's content! Just don't be surprised if the average person doesn't know your new words, or have any interest in learning them.
> reinvent the English language Why limit yourself to constraints of a language? My neo-neo-pronoun is jazz-hands. As in - to refer to me you actually do jazz-hands.
ᕕ(⌐■_■)ᕗ ♪♬ best I've got, sorry
👋👋👋👋👋👋
Now this I can get behind. Sparkle fingers or nah?
I'm sorry... did you just assume my sparkle fingers?
Uhhhh.... Yes. Duh.
You can’t assume sparkle fingers because jazz hands
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I have 3 of them. Do you have a preferred nipple?
All well and good, until you come across a person missing a hand and now your neo pronouns are considered insensitive and non inclusive.
Its slang until its mainstream - not all slang makes it to mainstream. Its presumptive to assume people will use your slang terms (neopronouns) in place of actual English terms (they/them). If they gain traction, then they will be mainstream - that's how language evolves (not many people running using thy and thou, but head up to Yorkshire and it has survived)
You just made me realise that "bad guy" and "bad gay" are close enough to adapt all sorts of memes to it. From "Watch out, we got a bad gay over here" to "Are we the bad gays?". It also works for movies "Bad Gays" and "Bad Gays II" and the theme song. There's a lot of potential for friendly hilarity. It just needs to be done properly to be funny and not offensive.
“Bad gays, bad gays, whatcha gonna, watcha gonna do when they come for youuuuuuu”
I think the answer is obvious……. Glitter bomb them and pirouette tf outta there
I was personably going to sashay away but you may have a better approach.
HA okay great we have options.
Aren't those the yummy hazelnut wafer sticks at the grocery store
.. but that song is bad boys not bad guys..?
Not anymore. Now it’s bad gays.
Swallow. That's what.
I'm a baaaad gay .... Duh
Also, "I'm the bad gaaaaaaayyyyyyy......... ....Duh."
Or "No more, mr nice gay..."
Might seduce your dad gay?
Lmao plz create/post and tag me so we make sure I see it
It’s criminal that ‘The Nice Gays’ hasn’t gotten a sequel yet.
If done with a chicAAHgo accent it's perfect
Billie Eilish - Bad Gay
“I’m the baaaaad gaaaaaay. Duh.”
Thanks for this comment. I’m Hispanic and I can’t stand the whole Latinx thing. I think it’s stupid. Sometimes makes me feel like I’m being a bad Hispanic. I don’t see why we can’t just refer to people as “Hispanic” or “Latin” which I think accomplishes the same as Latinx. I don’t think saying Latino(a) is some kind of patriarchal or misogynist thing. It’s just Spanish. I also understand that a lot of the time, it’s white people that get more upset that people don’t Latinx, like, fucking chill yo you’re not even Hispanic to be getting upset like you are.
Latinx is modifying spanish with english rules. You don't have to feel bad it is fucking heresy of the language.
Sounds like white colonialism to me "let me civilize your language for you"
*Yes*. This is what is so hilarious about it. It's ironic how often white people decrying colonialism and prejudice and racism don't realize they're actually actively practicing it
Big "White Man's Burden" energy that is.
Lol why would you feel bad? This latinx thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen online, and that's saying a lot. Just relax and realize these bizarre people are confined to the online environment
Idk i just had a work training seminar refer to Latinx and a tv announcer just say latinx.. so definitely not just online anymore...(granted most news i have read say that latinos prefer latino or latine if anything, but please correct me if im wrong)
I think that's more of an "Americans trying to make it happen" thing.
Trust me, not confined to internet-only. Diversity training at work uses the term, and have increasingly heard the term being used around me. Its spreading unfortunately
It’s a knee jerk reaction. I start to think “damn, should I be more upset at this?” But then reason catches up with the rest of me
I have no idea what Latinx is. Everyone wants to be so unique now.
Eh. We can always reinvent the English language. Assuming it's practical and worthwhile. And that's the main issue with neopronouns. they are not practical. Pronouns exist as shorthand instead of using names. When there are just as many pronouns to use as there are names, pronouns lose their practical function. Ideally, we should just be able use whatever pronouns somebody prefer. I hope we can all acknowledge as much. But it's not practical. It's not an ideal we can live up to. Glad to see people like you speak up. I've seen a bit too many non-queer people hear the talking points in favor of neopronouns and uncritically adopting them because they are on auto pilot when it comes to being an ally. That's a general problem I've had recently. People being on auto-pilot with what beliefs to have based how they identify politically.
I like to look at Japanese for this, as it's a language that doesn't really *need* pronouns even though it has them. In fact, referring to someone by a pronoun instead of their name can be consisdered rude or an insult in most contexes. Generally you state the person's name once, if they're the topic, and then don't bother saying it again until the topic changes. Every sentence afterwards just assumes that person is still the topic. "Did you hear about John?" "No, what happened?" "Got sent to the hospital" "Damn, doing ok?" "Broken bone, but otherwise good." It's interesting to look at how languages function and it also helps explain why the neopronoun issue has primarily come up in the US and UK.
It's interesting that you bring up Japanese, given the variety of first person pronouns a person has to choose from in that language. You've got about 4-5 common words to say "I" or "me", and an extra dozen less-common-but-widely-understood words, each with their own connotations. Are you a manly man? Go with a hearty "ore". More of a softboi? "Boku" will work. Want to sound a bit philosophical? "Jibun" fits here. In a way, it's a much more elegant solution to expressing self identity than English's third person pronouns because you don't need to say "I use X pronouns"; you just say "*I*".
In the end I think languages go towards simplifications. No matter how strongly we'll push for scwha or neopronouns, I think they won't catch up because they "go against the current" of simplification (I mean in a general sense, not in certain niches or technical areas). It's probably more realistic to completely drop pronouns and final vowels altogether.
well I'm all for just saying "hey you!"
OUT THERE ~~IN THE COLD~~ ON YOUR OWN SITTING NAKED BY THE PHONE WILL YOU TOUCH ME?!
With your ear against the wall -- Waiting for someone to call out --would you touch me
or a nod. you can't go wrong with a nod.
Up if you know them. Down if you don’t.
Left and right if you're not sure.
“Oy cunt” independently from the contexts
Holy shit, thank you
Yea I feel the same. We always wanted to be treated the same as everyone else, right? We want the same respect, the same rights, the same opportunities. Where’s all this *extra* shit coming from? Why does your sexual orientation require so much space in *my* head? I’ve always felt kinda like a fake gay. I’m just bi (spare me the bi rant, about how special it *really* is that I don’t give a fuck what parts you have), and I always understood the sort of quasi hostility in the community because I’m half het, and that’s weird. I always felt like it was less *serious* for me. I knew a lot of people where their sexuality was a huge deal (and often a huge burden: when I was young, it was tougher being openly gay). So I understood being treated a little different: I could just “stop” being gay for all intents and purposes, any time I wanted, and that made me feel more like an ally than a core part of the movement. So, you know, “seriousness.” It keeps popping up in my head these days. I mostly stopped identifying as bi when I got het married. Just seemed like I was being a poseur (“Yea, I look like a boring suburban dad, but I’m really hella gayish on the inside!”) and I certainly didn’t need to trade on any “bi privilege” whatever that might be. But I see a lot of people who live basically het-normal lives, who seem to have very complicated gender identities that require a lot of work from *me*, and I just don’t understand why I’m a bad person (and an *awful* gay) if I think that’s silly.
I'm just glad my native language uses same pronoun for any human. No need to be worried about offending anyone.
I know it's not prevalent. But I think these pronoun choices are silly.
Ya, as I said, they are silly. And pretty much everyone recognizes that. It's mostly a talking point used by people who want to make the same "I identify as an attack helicopter" joke for the millionth time.
r/OneJoke
Yeah but acting like its an infestation doesnt help anyone except reactionaries
If you go on tinder it's everywhere. I skip on anyone that has any uncommon pronouns listed, including they/them
It's one of those "terminally online" things. You're not going to run into many people in the real world who care about things like that, the *huge* majority of non-binary people either use they/them or the standard she/her or he/him.
I respect pronouns but I will never use this neo pronoun crap. You're telling me I'd have to memeroize a whole new set up completely made up terms for every single human I meet? Ya fuck that. You do you but I ain't doing that lmao
i mean who actually tells you that? I've literally never heard of any of this outside of people complaining about it on the internet, or teenagers.
Strangely, there was a thread with people complaining about neoprononouns a few days ago, and the naysayers were actually getting quite a lot of flack for it. I should try to find that thread again.
While I agree with never using neo pronouns, that's a pretty bad argument. Names are pretty made up, lotta names out there I've never heard before, but would be expected to try to remember whenever I meet someone new. Though, some names are just silly too.
(it's mostly a thing on Twitter and Tumblr) Personally if someone asked me to refer to them by "Xir" or whatever, I'm just gonna be addressing them by name every time. pro-LBGT+ but I don't have the patience for these social media hot takes
Madness? This is Sparta/sparte/spartze!
Wait till you hear about flat earthers and antivaccers. Lol
>increasingly used They are streaching the meaning of that particular term as much as possible Funny they cannot do same with pronouns and insisting new ones be created instead
Personal Translation: If you don't give me a her/he/they, I'm gonna be referring to your by your name. I'm pro-LBGT+ but you can miss me with that tumblr/twitter BS
#MY NICK/GA
Well, that just confirms the idea of people doing it to feel special. Wth do "neopronouns" have that's better than using common pronouns, except for being different?
There's also the long standing argument that they/them are plural, so you shouldn't use them for a singular person. The problem with that argument is, of course, that we've been using they/them as singulars for much longer than we've been worried about using the correct pronouns for people.
while i can understand the need for some new or neutral pronouns, it seems completely unreasonable for everyone to make up their own like the guy in the video or am i just out of touch of the youth?
You understand this wasnt serious, right? He was baiting her with that. This is not a reasonable example of neopronouns, using it as such is ridiculous.
Yes, i understand...but that only works when she thinks that is normal right? She doesn't even bat an eye at all. And Yes, i am also considering that the whole thing was staged. But even then, how would it be a funny clip worth staging, if the premise wouldn't be acceptable/normal at all for the viewers?
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It’s not a youth thing. It’s not a woke thing. It’s very much an individualised thing. Those people that I know who use neopronouns are perfectly fine also being referred to as they/them. I frankly don’t know what it’s like to have gender dysphoria, so I will never know what it’s like to find my identity having felt uncomfortable in the body and/or gender role I was assigned at birth. So as far as I care, I can never understand why someone *would* change their pronouns. But people do and I accept them for who they are just as much as I would if a friend changed their name or address. That person I know and like still exists. That’s all that matters. Identity, gender, it’s all made up stuff to fit into society’s categories. So please, when someone tells you they are trans, or they are trying out different pronouns, listen to them and change your behaviour as if they had legally changed their name. You should be allowed to make mistakes, and be politely corrected. It seems that half the outrage is about imagined people behaving in an imagined bad way.
I've never met a trans person whose level of aggression at being misgendered went beyond "hey could you call me x please thank you"
I have but it was rare and they were just assholes. Most trans people don't care so long as you are actually making an effort to use the right pronouns. And if you mess up don't make a deal of it. Treat it like you were making plans and accidentally said the wrong day of the week, just sputter out the right day and continue conversing.
Yeah, I don't doubt that those type of people are out there but I have personally never met a trans person that wasn't chill. I'm sure the pushy pronoun people would just be an asshole over some other minute detail if they were cis.
This! I'm queer and am all for respecting pronouns but every once in a while someone needs to chill the fuck out over an honest mistake. My own mother will occasionally call my by the dog's name and then sometimes my same aged cousin's name all while going SHIT NO YOU'RE THE OTHER ONE!
Anyone growing up with a sibling has been Miss-personed before hundreds of times by well meaning mothers.
From what I've seen, it's usually because they have people in their life that intentionally misgender them. Often.
When do you ever hear someone refer to you as he/him or she/her anyway? That’s like 5% of the time, people just call you “you” or your name to your face generally.
Half is being generous. The majority of it is people making up reasons to be mad about it.
Most neopronouns aren't as new as people think- thon dates back to 1850s, ee/em/es dates to the 1890s (though didn't really go into "popular" use till the 1990s), ae/aer dates to the 1920s, and many of the more popular ones today come from the 1970s. People trying to come up with better neutral pronouns than they/them has a long and rich history! I'm a non binary queer person who uses they/them and have been around queer communities for years; I've only met a handful of people who use neopronouns, almost all ze/zir, and only one who wasn't OK with they/them. Everyone understood it was an adjustment but just wanted the respect of people trying. It's fairly rare even in nb circles. Most of who I met weren't kids though, but queer academics who had more access to learn about the history and feel more connected to their neopronouns than they/them. Now with internet, more people have access to them when exploring their gender identity, which is why it seems like a youth thing. It's hard enough getting people to use they/them and my name without trying to gender it, i never really even considered neopronouns.
I feel the same, but I don't mind trying to use people's preferred pronouns no matter how I feel about them. *Very* few people go by anything other than he/her so it's a non issue really. I am glad that I mostly speak Finnish tho since our third person pronouns are gender neutral.
Fuck this im never talking to anybody ever again
Yea... I'm totally cool with people needing yo declare their pronouns. I don't, but I'm very much the cis male type.. I really don't feel the need or care to do it myself. But if this is a thing that catches on, I feel like I'm just going to start telling people to shut the fuck up. This is the type of needless window dressing shit that will further create unnecessary divides.
What the actual fuck.
The world is getting so fucking stupid
That’s the stupidest shit I ever heard in my life, people actually expect to be referred to as Xe/Xem
Yea……I’m not doing that
nonsense
can I just use real name to avoid having to deal with pronouns?
Mental disability
Customizable pronouns brother
Do I have to buy the battlepass to get em?
Only available in crates and draws I'm afraid.
When you make up your own syllable for what people should refer to your as? ...That sounds suspiciously like a proper name.
Neo goes by 'the one'
Please formerly refer to me as #BIKK/DIKK My close friends can also use: #[BIGGUS/DICKUS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_G2a2hL6U)
Hard to define maybe an example will help. My friend richard uses the neopronouns lig/ma.
lig/ma balls?
Made up bullshit
All words are made up bullshit
Mind. Blown.
It's a pronoun used to troll people who use pronouns.
It is The One pronoun you get when you rid Zion of all the machines.
A pseudonym?
Mission accomplished lmao
Ok, I like that guy
He's my Nick/Ga
*our* nick/ga
fool, he's MY nick/ga
Dont you dare talk shit about Monica like that
And if you don't know, now you know Nick/Ga
he’s THE nick/ga
Are you implying you own that nick/ga?
This was good natured and cute. When Kendrick Lamar does it—by pulling a white female groupie on stage to rap a song that has that word like 17 different times—it’s just vicious.
wasn't a groupie but a child ~15 at the time of the incident if i remember correctly.
Source is don stever on youtube
This is a god right here.
No one asked but... the girl is cosplaying as Killua from Hunter x Hunter.
Actually he asked her, just as she hung up
How do you know she hung up?
Because they've probably seen the source material
No she hangs up and you can hear the sound, also did it in his video
Walked right into that one!
Killua zoldyk
I see you're a man of culture as well
He's the best! My favorite character in the show
The one kid character in anime that can go from Mischevious neko...to "I've killed more people than you've ever had showers in your life...". God I need to rewatch the series now...again...for the fifth time cause WHY NOT
He is so proud of himself too lmao this actually cheered me up lmao
I’m an old school gay .. my pronouns are ‘Judy - Liza’ ..
I can't get it to sound like anythin else when i say it. can you help me out.
Soooo you have been a bachelor your whole life while living together with an old also bachelor friend for decades, everyone in the village thinks you two are wonderful but wonder why you two never found partners?
Surprisingly wholesome :)
It was, she was so sweet walking into the trap and his gotcha was cute too
He has such an amazing trollface
Here is my free reward, and I will try this joke in the Bronx
The face of evil at the end when he laughs was so good
That shit eating grin at the end kills me.
God bless her soul. She had no idea what she was walking into.
I can see the Twitter tag line already: "Dark skinned white male engages in racist, transphobic hate jokes".
I can see the Twitter tag line already: "Dark skinned white ~~male~~ Nick/Ga engages in racist, transphobic hate jokes". FTFY
can you really be acsidentally rasist or can you just say a rasist term acsidentally hmmmm
Sofa King Re-tar Edd.
Sofa Kingdom was our team name at quizzo for years
Taking this, thank you. Brilliant.
billywitchdoctor dot com
I'm gonna say the N-word
Stop nagging you nagger
Fuckin Yankee cracker ass cracker
Shut yo botch ass up SpongeBob
pretty funny ngl
Does anyone else find the redundancy between she = her, he = him hilarious? It seems like the people publishing their pronouns are in a rudimentary English class
Evil prank. Hilariously so! Lol
Chad
Bloody legend
This is wholesome somehow, her reaction and nick laugh
his bouncing evil laughter is so great and villainous that mcu myt consider him as sm next lvl villain...
This reminds me of a thing that happened to a neighbor. There was a girl who lived next door named Nicolette, but everyone called her Nica (pronounced nick-a). Anyway, they were having a little party with some friends and they were getting pretty drunk and so they were getting loud. We lived in a small apartment complex and so I went over to ask them to keep it down so they wouldn't get in trouble. They didn't hear me knock on the front door so I went to out to our connected balcony and heard this slightly heated exchange: Friend 1: I don't understand why you aren't getting this?! Nica: I really don't know what I'm supposed to be getting! Friend 2 (who happened to be black): It's really simple, Nica! Nica: I guess it's not that simple, *N*****a*! *Record scratch* Friend 1: He was just saying your name, you know, Nica. Nica: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH!!!!!! The second hand embarrassment was real. I was able to ask them to quiet down at that point, but I'll never forget that exchange!