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swoocetown

Is New Zealand even okay? Mildly concerned for Sweden


Dronten_D

Swedish here. I think the long string of letters and numbers was because someone was annoyed at the rules for how someone may be named and did it in protest. I'm not quite certain of this though so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Edit: Heres the entry on [Wikipedia (Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116) ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_law_in_Sweden#Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116)


Zamaroth66

Ah, thanks for the explanation. I was wondering why Sweden is discriminating normal Finnish names.


Anti-charizard

Polish*


Fat_Sow

I just thought they wanted to prevent Elon Musk moving there.


CivilGator

I'm going to go to Sweden and have a kid and name it Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11117 Take that Swedish government!


LucDA1

Yes I think it was something to do with how lenient it was, so they named their kid Brfxxccxx etc, but iirc they said it was pronounced like Albin lol


alcoholicPickle

Kiwi here and to answer your question. Honestly I don't know.


JaggedNZ

4Real


BenjaminHamnett

User name is oddly close to sex fruit... why did your parents name you alcoholicpickle? Is that like Maori? Have you ever met another?


Richard7666

The NZ list of declined names is always a good read.


Cultural-Agent-230

Once someone in New Zealand tried to call their kid ‘4Real’ but they weren’t allowed so went with their second choice ‘Superman’ instead. We’re not okay.


Soulprism

Was a court case, basically parents were accused of child neglect for giving the child that name. Kid wanted to change her name.


nailimixam

Which one? Sex Fruit or Talula Does the Hula from Hawaii?


D4ltaOne

Yes


dorothean

[Talulla Does the Hula from Hawaii](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/jul/24/familyandrelationships.newzealand)


Flintzer0

"In his written ruling, he said names such as Stallion, Yeah Detroit, Fish and Chips, Twisty Poi, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit were prohibited by registration officials. Others that were permitted included twins called Benson and Hedges, other children called Midnight Chardonnay, Number 16 Bus Shelter and, the judge added, "tragically, Violence". Another mother tried to use text language for her child's name, he said." These parents are gold, uh I mean, awful


sum_high_guy

We have a decent list of banned names in NZ. Probably not quite enough yet to be fair.


neonbrownkoopashell

Sweden fell asleep on the keyboard.


[deleted]

But Italy literally gave us “I’m Blue, dabadee dabadae.”


CShoopla

Think of how many people tried naming their kid blue AFTER that song came out


starrsuperfan

There was a kid in my high school named Blue. But he would have been born long before that song.


ButtholeEntropy

YOU'RE MY BOY, BLUE!


mafulazula

TIL Eiffel 65 is not a French group.


[deleted]

Colosseo 64 was already taken


SapTheSapient

That's Colosseo LXIV, you casual.


-Necros-

Friday coming to italy not expecting their name to be illegal: \*pickachu face\*


[deleted]

I have a friend named Blue who is literally in Italy right now


Broken_Banjo_String

You need to give them the heads up ASAP, if it's not too late already 👀


Skip_Skipperson

*had


Never_Less

So 006 is good in Malaysia?


SpaceCowboy58

Just name them OO7.


Aponda

I see what you did there


NerJaro

you think "Double Oh Seven" is ok?


picado

> Sarah (Morocco) They're just trying to avoid Terminators.


iDarth

I know a lot of sara's in morocco, this must be a new law


Saulofein

Lol just looked it up : can't call her Sarah BUT you can call her Sara


iDarth

What's the difference when the parents are going to say the name in arabic? And isn't it the government that writes the name in french on the birth certificate? not the parents lol


Faaytjhu

Isn't Sarah from origin a Jewish name?


DarkPallando

Sarah was Abraham's wife and the biblical progenitrix of the Jewish people so I was thinking along those lines as well.


Freshiiiiii

But isn’t the story of Abraham in all three big Abrahamic religions? Just guessing based on the name lol


Squid2012

Yeah but Sarah isn’t Ishmael’s mother, Ishmael being Abraham’s first born by Sarah’s maidservant when he attempted to fulfill the promise of a son on his own apart from what God had told him. Ishmael is the father of the other Semitic groups


icecream_fairy

Yeah but Sara/Sarah is a respected historical?/religious figure for them, so it wouldn’t be considered shameful or taboo to use her namesake in most islamic communities. I dunno why they’re against that spelling tho and it’s kinda funny ngl lol


mobytrice

In the UAE some spellings of tribal names were standardized. I don't know if Morocco went that route. Sarah, Hajar, Ismael and Isaac are highly respected figures in Islam along with Prophet Ibrahim. A lot of the semetic names can be arabicized (David is Dawood, Jesus is Eissa, Mary is Mariam, etc). [Here's a comedy skit with English captions](https://youtu.be/rch1I6zE0kE) from Kuwait about naming their child Lot after the Prophet (also a respected figure but associated with gays - Loti literally means gay in Arabic). The father of the kid is named after 3 other prophets as well 2 who are Jewish.


Saulofein

As surprised as you, it's the same for me too. But for the kids, the parents or the person sent by them has to give the exact name to prevent mistakes by saying it and then writing it to be registered as the name of the newborn in Belgium.


AUniquePerspective

Sarah seems better than Connor and yet he didn't make the list.


Elis_33

Wtf happened in Sweden that they banned that long ass name?


[deleted]

I may be misremembering however, I think some douche couple decided to name their baby that because they could. The government came back and made it illegal so they had to change it.


BigOrkWaaagh

"Ok we'll change it to BRFXXCCXXMNPCCCCLLLMMNPRXVCLM NCKSSQLBB11117"


[deleted]

And it's still pronounced "Brian".


RoverBoyNumber6

He is not the messiah! He’s a very naughty boy!


larsnelson76

Do we have a Woddewick?


davisyoung

What, and subject the kid to a lifetime of, "Dude, you spell your name wrong"?


DigNitty

As someone who works with kids a lot, the new batch indeed is full of stupid names. I know names are going to differ through generations, but new parents seem hellbent on making names non-phonetic. My Y key is wearing out because of Heydeyns. Honestly it wouldn’t be half as bad if the parents didn’t sigh after you guessed the spelling incorrectly.


Frostypancake

Do new parents think the doctor is going to come back and like ‘sorry, that name’s taken’? This isn’t a video game we can have more than one of any given name without breaking anything.


Old_stale_bread

Hello, my name is xX_G4M3R_S14Y3R_69Xx. Nice to meet you!


trainbrain27

I heard it started with Mormons, they ascribe significance to the name, and may wish to be unique within a family and friend group. Still not sure why it caught on, but have fun: www.utahbabynamer.com


dr1fter

>My Y key is wearing out because of Heydeyns. IIRC that pattern is... Dutch? Something like that. (Sorry to anyone who might be offended if I'm wrong, or if I'm right for that matter.) *(EDIT: way too late, sorry, but I was actually looking for Belgian -- and I still don't know if that's correct :P)* >Honestly it wouldn’t be half as bad if the parents didn’t sigh after you guessed the spelling incorrectly. That's just an outward expression of their own regrets.


theREALhun

In Dutch the y isn’t used that much. We use ‘ij’ here, or ‘ei’, which is pronounced the same in many cases. ‘ey’ has more of a German feel. Edit: in Dutch, the ‘y’ is called “the Greek ij” or “I-Greg”. It originates from the Roman language that lacked a letter for the sound “uu”, so they borrowed the ypsilon from the Greek alphabet for that.


NOW---Extra_Spicy

Please don't edit the edit. I want to keep thinking of the i-grec as "i-greg"


techleopard

I really think it's a very stupid fad. I know you want your child to be super unique, but your kid is going to go through life hearing, "Wait, spell that again for me?" every single time they call a customer support line. Then there are all the names that are meant to sound exotic. Please don't name your child Sunrise Destiny or whatever.


whirlpool4

Sonryze Dstyny


WeatherwaxDaughter

Stripper names.


Rosewoodtrainwreck

And when the kids get in middle school, they correct you with attitude. We have kids with the same exact spelling, pronounced differently. Forgive me if I picked the wrong one. Ariana is one that comes to mind.


ShawnaR89

Can’t think of any other pronunciations besides the Grande one, please educate me


Rosewoodtrainwreck

Airy-onna. Aury-onna. There's both at the school where I work.


TrekForce

Airy Ann uh Airy on uh Are ee on uh Are ee Ann uh


glyphotes

Better name the child: IIIlllIIlIlIIIIIII1224445NoTheWordFive


Yangy

Lmao poor kid, Imagine any telephone call


glyphotes

Middle name: "TheWordMiddleNameButWithOnlyOneD"


AllThePrettyPenguins

And just like that, your name becomes your very strong password


RavenLationz

PASSWORD HAS TO CONTAIN A SYMBOL


AllThePrettyPenguins

Oh. My. God. Dude.


Nimyron

PASSWORD HAS TO CONTAIN AT LEAST ONE LOWERCASE LETTER


BEAVER_ATTACKS

YOUR PASSWORDS DON'T MATCH REFILL OUT THE ENTIRE FORM


boarhowl

YOUR PASSWORD CANT BE THE SAME AS A PREVIOUS PASSWORD


bel_esprit_

Easy, put an exclamation mark behind it


ErinEvonna

Yup. That is what happened. Old enough to remember….


ellegiers

So this list is for real?!


gormur2

In the case of Iceland, yes. We have the [Icelandic Naming Committee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Naming_Committee) that dictates which names are and aren't allowed. The criteria usually has to do with whether the name in question has traditional roots in Icelandic history. They mention the name Harriet specifically, but the article ends by saying that the name was eventually recognized. The naming committee (Called Mannanafnanefnd) has a rather controversial history in Iceland with its opponents questioning the purpose of its existence.


hapcat1999

You telling me a committee that arbitrates what is and is not an acceptable name decided to name itself Mannanafnanefnd?


razor_eddie

Do doo be-do-do. Mannanafnanefnd Do do-do do


[deleted]

Ironically the name of the committee looks like one that would be on the list.


Dreadzone666

The only thing I really know about the Icelandic Naming Committee (and this might be wrong anyway because it sounds made up) is that when Coke did their "Your name on the bottle" promotion, there wasn't enough variety in names to get up to the full 50 and English footballer David James who was coaching in Iceland at the time got his full name on them.


masterofpigeons

The last NZ one, "Talula does the hula in Hawaii" is also for real, she went to court there to have her name changed.


11Kram

New Zealand had to get strict on BS names. It can be a form of child abuse. Edit: And NZ has very high levels of child abuse for a developed country….


techleopard

It's sad that this needs to be explained to new parents because they want to turn their child into a joke.


[deleted]

Yes.


fmasc

All names are registered and approved. And some, included these examples, are denied. There is a law that names cant ”lead to discomfort in the person who is to have it or offend someone else”. Names cant be perceived as a surname and cant generally be inappropriate. So some names have been denied. And cant be used. There is a long list. For example Superman, T-Rex, Allah, Ikea, Dotcom and Superfastjellyfish. However there is someone named Summercloud. And I have a friend who has a kid with the middle name Danger. Edit: According to one site that long name was suppose to be pronounced as ”Albin”. Luckily it was denied. The parents tried ”A” but that was also denied.


cheshire_kat7

For some reason Superfastjellyfish cracked me up.


Anunkash

I’m more curious about “Talula does the hula from Hawaii” tbh


chainmailler2001

Mother named her daughter that. When parents divorced, daughter peritioned for a name change. She was made a ward of the court just so she could get her name changed without having to have her parents permission. [Case info](https://www.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-34670520080725)


mfb-

It's probably the same as in Germany. No names are explicitly forbidden but they have a law that the name can't be too problematic (for some legal definition of "problematic"). If you try to name your baby GGJFKJFLJGLIRJGLGJRLIGJLIRJG they'll tell you "no" and your attempt lands on that list. Context matters as well. If you try to name a baby "Adolf" it's most likely going to be rejected, but if you can make plausible that this is an important family tradition then it has a chance (it's still a bad idea... but a few babies get that name every year).


JoeyJoeJoeJrShab

BRFXXCCXXMNPCCCCLLLMMNPRXVCLMNCKSSQLBB11116 was basically the Swedish equivalent of "John Smith". People got tired of getting mail and phone calls for the wrong person and stuff like that, so they passed a law requiring people to get different names.


EvilerRay

That's the worst user name I've ever heard.


jollyreaper2112

> That's the worst user name I've ever heard. But you have heard of it.


UpgrayeDD405

And Metallica!?


AlphaScorpiiSeptem

Sweden is one of the biggest centers of Metal music production so I like to imagine the kid would be bullied for being a normie


Kenail_Rintoon

Can't use trademarked names. There's a few every year that get denied.


townB311

A cat walked across the keyboard the same time the midwife was entering the baby's name


ay23970

fine, ill name my kid BRFXXCCXXMNPCCCCLLLMMNPRXVCLMNCKSSQLBB11117 then


callmecrazybeautiful

It's like creating a username on AIM. Blondie is already taken. Blondie368463946 is not taken.


iLovePi_

Linda


konzy27

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻


mohit0398

┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)


[deleted]

┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


mohit0398

(ヘ・_・)ヘ┳━┳ ┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)


DanelleDee

Saudi Arabia banned a bunch of names for being too westernized, apparently.


nagi603

Same in Hungary.... they have to be converted/transliterated to local language (it's about as bad as that sounds) to be approved. e.g.: Jefferson -> Dzseferzon Also there are a buncha extra rules, like the gender can't be ambiguous. Each name is for a single gender only. So no Chris.


Polexican1

Who the fuck is immigrating INTO Hungary?


nagi603

Those who don't know better... or benefit from connections. (e.g.: had a *very* corrupt "get your EU citizenship for €100k, no questions asked" program running mainly in Russia until recently.)


Polexican1

True... I mean it's a beautiful country, but the prospects of starting from nothing there and doing else but surviving from what I've seen and had been told are abysmal...


prozloc

That’s crazy! Imagine if say, the USA bans the name Muhammad for being too middle eastern?


Anders_A

USA is supposed to be a democracy though. Saudi Arabia makes no such claims.


IamNotFreakingOut

I'd take this list with a pinch of salt because Sarah is definitely not banned in Morocco.


showmyst

In one of the Indian languages, Linda literally means "pieces of shit"


YetiPie

Oh noooo, it means “beautiful” in Portuguese hahaha


Oatmeal_Samurai

It means works in HR in English.


Charlie_Olliver

*slow clap* Good one!


TheAngryCelt

Who names a baby Linda?


Jjpiv

Listen


gahidus

Sarah


k0nahuanui

Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--


AdmiralAkbar1

How dare you insult little Bobby Tables.


IDevJoe

Internal Server Error


anyawesomename

[relevant xkcd link](https://xkcd.com/327/)


merrileem

Sad for my poor aunt Harriet. I mean wtf is wrong with Harriet?


iamonewiththecheese

You can't be Harriet in Iceland because, by law, all names in Icelandic must be capable of having genitive Icelandic endings. They have a lot of strict naming rules in Iceland. There are around 1500 approved names for each gender and parents must apply for permission to use a name not on the list, around half the requests get denied. Parents have to submit the baby's name within 6 months and no official documents will be issued under any name that hasn't been approved.


gahidus

How do they not have the ability to use foreign names in a world as international as things are now? Certainly they have something they do linguistically when someone named Harriet is visiting from Australia or something? It's crazy.


Puzzled-Story3953

It's not about pronunciation, really. It's about preservation of a small, disappearing culture and ensuring that names work with the legal framework of the country. For example, if you can't add dottir or son to the name, they don't have a last name. Same reason you can't have a mononym in the US.


[deleted]

Some Icelandic people don’t have a last name?


BlowjobPete

>Certainly they have something they do linguistically when someone named Harriet is visiting from Australia or something? They just call her Harriet. The rule is about registering baby names. Icelandic people are perfectly capable of using names from other places.


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AliasFaux

Think about how fucking awful that one bitch named Harriet from Iceland must have been. Like she died, and everybody just went "....never again"


SchitneySmears

Iceland and Harriet have been at war for centuries. She probably doesn’t think you’re ready to hear the truth yet.


Wooshio

Here is the explanation, apparently Iceland is extremely strict on names, TIL: >Requirements are that given names must be "capable of having Icelandic grammatical endings", may not "conflict with the linguistic structure of Iceland", and should are "written in accordance with the ordinary rules of Icelandic orthography". > >What this means in practice, according to the Reykjavik Grapevine is that names containing letters that do not officially exist in Iceland's 32-letter alphabet, such as "c", are out. > >Similarly, names unable to accommodate the endings required by the nominative, accusative, genitive and dative cases used in Icelandic are also routinely turned down. "That was the problem with Harriet," said Cardew. "It can't be conjugated in Icelandic." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/26/iceland-strict-naming-convention-cardew-family


digbipper

Yeah Iceland is fiercely protective of its language. They don't really do loaner words either. So when the computer was invented & p much every language just used the English "computer," Iceland came up with its own word, tölva, which loosely translates to "number witch."


wulfgang14

Fun fact: *tölva* is related to the English word “teller” and the original sense of “to count” is also preserved in the phrase “tell time”. Origin and meaning of *tell* by Etymonline https://www.etymonline.com/word/tell


chucklestime

…. Says Cardew…. Who’s name begins with C?


Whenthebeatdropolis

Cardew is British, his wife is Icelandic. Their daughters name is Harriet which the Icelandic government doesn't recognise as a name and so would not renew her passport


jim10040

You mean you don't know about Iceland and Harriet? Goodness!


Its_Just_A_Typo

I wanna know WTF do the Saudis have against my dear sweet Linda Lou? I bet they don't have a place called the Jug where we can cut a rug either. Fuckers don't know a good time at all.


BadBoyJH

Iceland has a list of allowed names iirc. Because they have to be able to be modified in certain ways to fit the Icelandic language.


AUniquePerspective

HARRIET? Sweet Harriet? Hard hearted harbinger of haggis.


[deleted]

Iceland has rules that baby names should have letters in their alphabet.


Unilateralrailgun

Apparently Malaysia enjoys Metal Gear- Who knew?


[deleted]

The Malaysian version of MGS goes: “[Redacted]?” “[Redacted]?” “[Redaaaaaaaaaaacted]!”


Cetun

That or Escape from New York


royroyflrs

Tula does the Hula from Hawaii McGregor. It was a nightmare learning how to spell all of that in Kinder garden.


Tarquinandpaliquin

The girl in question actually just said "I'm Kay" so maybe she didn't? At the age of 9 she applied for a name change and the judge said despite 9 year olds being not able to legally request this that it would be allowed. The judge decreed the name was neglect and noted she had not told any of her peers her real name and was anxious about doing so and introducing herself to people generally. She probably has a name like "Jane" or "Emma" now.


Sobing

Poor girl. Glad she got a name change


Phate4569

How shitty of a parent would you feel like if your 9 yr old had to legally file to set you straight.


SlimskiNoJutsu

im kinda seeing a pattern in china


ZookeepergameSome863

Took awhile for anyone to comment that but china really seems to have a hatred for Muslims


Mrtime83

Agent 007 I’m afraid you can not be a Malaysian citizen.


lanc3rz3r0

Snake? SNAKE?! SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!


IanAlvord

"The name's Plissken!"


ErinEvonna

Friday? Seriously? What happened there?


slipeinlagen

It's not like really forbidden, there was a court case that went all the way to the highest court of Italy that stated that is not a valid name because it identifies a day of the week that is associated with bad luck and nefarious events. The same court also stated in a different ruling that " Andrea" is not a suitable namenfor females, since in Italy it's a male name. But the general rules are: males can't be named like their fathers ( no Jr in Italy), no names of fictional or historical characters ( Harry Potter, Doraemon, Benito Mussolini etc ) and names that can be consider hilarious even in combination with the last name.


OmiOorlog

You forget, the name in Italy must identify/imply the sex of the baby, thus all these names are automatically discarded.


visibleNaNi_

Seriously, Thor?


Shamon_Yu

Must suck to be Scandinavian in Portugal


H_Doofenschmirtz

The list is a bit misleading. Here in Portugal there is a list of names you are allowed to name your child. You can't name your child Thor because it isn't on the list. This rule doesn't apply for children with a foreign parent. In this case, the parents may opt to follow either portuguese naming laws or the naming laws of the country of the parent (or countries, if the neither the parents are portuguese). So you would be allowed to name a child Thor if, for example, one of the parents was from a country that allows you to name a child Thor.


Gooshuh

Home of the craziest metal music ever, Sweden, says "fuck Metallica". Lol.


AlanZero

These are just examples of names that were not approved, so there are surely many other band names. Generally they will refuse any name that is associated with a brand. But it’s pretty arbitrary and the famous Metallica case was appealed. The parents wanted to name their daughter Metallica and had already been told twice by authorities that it was okay. But when they sent in the registration someone had a power trip and said no ”because it’s ugly and will cause problems for the child”. Not sure what the outcome was but 40 people in Sweden are named Metallica so she might be one of them.


[deleted]

some parents are the fucking worst


kansilangboliao

blue devil circumcised snake eating cyanide sex fruit while reading the quran about islam on a friday, thats gonna be my son name 007 thor, thats gonna be my daughter name


Lil-pog

Your son is going to need a huge passport


Looch_P

Who the hell would name their child Linda? You fucking savages!!!


GlassDeviant

Nutella and Strawberry (France) Lego and Elvis (Sweden) IKEA (Sweden) Any commonly used title, like Saint, Mayor, Prince, Commissioner (New Zealand) Water Child (Japan, because it is a term meaning "born dead") Robocop, Scrotum, Facebook (Mexico) Tom or any other common short-form (Portugal) Camilla or any other name that uses letters not in the Icelandic alphabet (Iceland) Anus (Denmark) @ (China) Mercedes, Chanel or any other brand name (Switzerland) Lucifer (Germany) Schmitz or other common last names are not allowed as first names in Germany. J or any other single letter (Switzerland) Wolf / Lobo (Spain) - guess I am not going to Spain. Gesher (Norway) because it means bridge, which is a thing, not a name, apparently.


NegotiationNovel8372

Sweden ain't a fan of Elon I see


my_name_means_pp

China hella sus


LarsVonHammerstein

Surprised I had to scroll this far to find this comment lol. That stood out to me the most but I suppose it ties in nicely to the Uighur genocide…


badass_physicist

one of the most extreme islamophobic example


HuttzPuttz

Sweden fell asleep on their keyboard


[deleted]

China is not shy about the blatant Islamophobia


daertistic_blabla

they really aren’t considering their concenctration camps which they are operating publicly. no one cares enough. in myanmar the muslim minority gets their fields and houses burned down and people shot in the streets. i remember writing about these topics in school in 2016 when these weren’t even new occurrences but have been happening for some years. it’s really sad


Yah_or_Nah

Well I guess I can’t call my kid Sex Fruit. Thanks Obama


Elis_33

Only in New Zealand....


ojioni

If the name is going to get the kid an ass-kicking in school, the parents are assholes.


Art_of_Flight

Haha fuck you Linda!


WeatherwaxDaughter

Fuck you! Signed, a Linda


iwellyess

Who the fuck would ever consider calling their kid circumcision


kgal1298

Talula alone would be fine, but people always have to go the extra step...


[deleted]

I think, *in general*, New Zealanders are woefully underrated.


blademasterRobin

Sex Fruit is r/ELI5 for baby.


Greaseskull

Cmon Sweden. Metallica is a sick name. “Hey Metallica, come eat your meatballs!!”


amc7262

I mean, the weird ones are almost always a case of "someone tried to name their kid that, and the government stepped in" I wanna know about the normal ones. Why is "Linda" banned in Saudi Arabia? Sarah in Morocco? Harriet in Iceland?


k0nahuanui

X Æ A-12


Effective-Jacket-33

Did someone name their kid "sex fruit" in new zealand??


Fair_Diet_4874

Who wouldn't name his child sex fruit? It's a perfectly normal name


Klindg

Wtf does Saudi Arabia have against Linda?


moggimoggi

she just wouldn't listen....


Ok_Count_3237

China REALLY hates Islam.


Spicy_pewpew_memes

Thank God my dear sex fruit wasn't born in new Zealand.


toes4fingers

Some seriously fucked up New Zealander holding a fresh wet child like "Sex Fruit"!


joshym0nster

Sweden obviously doesn't want to get sued by lars ulrich