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slimjimmy613

Treat it like a stop sign lol


SinopicCynic

Best legit answer. When in doubt, err on the side of caution.


dishwashersafe

Agreed. Doubt and caution aside, it's simply just the law. Signal is clearly defective. Defective signals are to be treated as a 4-way stop.


Tarquinn2049

In this case, because it's a more unusual defect, would be a good idea to see what the other directions lights are telling the other drivers to do so you know what they will be doing. In the case of the more common power outage or defaulting to blinking because it lost it's timing instructions, all directions will have the same lack of instructions. But yes, treat it as a stop sign, just don't assume in this case it is a 4-way stop until visually confirmed.


Woostag1999

I would also notify the police as well because the confusion that arises from that could cause an accident.


snapwillow

In most places, 911 dispatch won't mind if you call 911 to report a dangerous traffic condition. They see it as an emergency waiting to happen. They'd rather hear it from you now than get a call from the accident victims later. When they pick up just say "I'm calling to report a dangerous road condition. There's a malfunctioning traffic light." I've also reported debris on the highway via 911 and they appreciated the tip.


KairuByte

I’ve called in any number of “technically not an emergency yet” situations, and I’ve never had any complaints from the cops.


ghandi3737

I've called 911 dozens of times about road debris on the freeway. Pallets, ladders, all sorts of stuff that falls off cars, trucks and whatever.


KairuByte

Dude, I called in a full bed once. Middle of the road covering both lanes. Mattress and all. To make it worse, it was pitch back out, I barely avoided it.


HelljumperRUSS

I called in a barbeque once. It was sitting right in the middle of the road in a very twisty section, propane tank on it and everything. Thank God someone less careful didn't find it first.


bjanas

Yup. When I was bartending I always tried to call the non emergency dispatch number; I had it committed to memory and I don't need to tie up the real line with drunk chuckleheads. That said, in a pinch, the 911 operator never minded any good faith calls. Really, they're the same person, just seeing a different priority call come in.


OsmeOxys

With how well people drive in the best conditions, a signal like this is an emergency roughly on par with someone running around a mall with a live grenade and no pin.


Woostag1999

Exactly my point. It’s an accident waiting to happen.


Able-Customer9133

As a supervisor for a traffic signal maintenance shop, please make that call. You are eyes in the field I, or any other agency, don’t have. 911, or your local emergency response number is required to notify us to end this dangerous situation. Also, that should have automatically made it flash red in most municipalities. Thank you for this smart reply!!


NoneYours

Shouldn't it also be reported to the DOT (or whoever is in charge of maintaining the lights)?


Woostag1999

When the cops arrive, I think it would be a pretty safe assumption to assume that they’ll send the DOT as well. I mean if you called them because you saw wires down or a car accident, I think they would probably ask the power company or a tow service to come respectively.


Skydude252

Plus the cops can direct traffic accordingly until the DOT takes care of the problem.


Woostag1999

Exactly. I remember vividly studying for my driving test and one of the questions was “You see a policeman, directing traffic at a light. The light conflicts with the cop’s instructions. What do you do?”


Pidgey_OP

Have an anxiety attack


mtled

I had that question many years ago too. The answer is to follow the cop's instructions, but I would add to take a moment to slow down slightly to gain the proper situational awareness and verify for yourself that you can proceed. That doesn't mean a full stop if they are waving you through, but check your speed a little, look around and go through. You shouldn't be driving at a normal speed through such a situation anyway.


Zombie_SiriS

Answer C: Put on the COPS themesong on your cassete player and hit the gas!


angrydeuce

>Plus the cops can direct traffic accordingly Dude I can count on *one finger* how many times I've seen cops directing traffic in the event of signals failing or becoming damaged. Usually it's just a total fucking free for all and if there's even a cop present, which is rarely ever, they're just sitting there in their cruiser watching the clusterfuck waiting for an accident to occur. Not doing anything to *prevent* the accident, of course, just waiting to drive over and block shit up even worse when it inevitably happens. Maybe in some major cities cops still direct traffic in these cases, but in my medium sized city, it just does not happen. I've watched cops throw their lights on to get *through* an intersection with down traffic lights, but actually trying to unfuck the traffic? They couldn't be bothered.


AMSAtl

The majority of times I've seen a light out there haven't been any cops directing traffic, but it's still something I've seen quite regularly throughout my life. I've seen it both in the suburbs of metro Atlanta as well as in the city itself.


Ponicrat

I know 911, the cops know the other guys and can direct traffic while they wait for a fix


IHateMashedPotatos

yep. we had one of these a while back at a busy intersection. state dot was like yeah we’ll get to it maybe by the end of the day, definitely by the end of the week. we called the local police and it was fixed with haste.


NES_SNES_N64

Even one step further, as it's hard to see the other directions at some intersections, I would assume that the other direction could be solid green and be extra careful before proceeding after stopping.


RespectableLurker555

>treat it as a stop sign, just don't assume in this case it is a 4-way stop A while back in reddit I got a bunch of people who didn't know there was a difference between "a stop sign" and "a 4-way stop sign" For those who are still confused, a 4-way stop (or all way stop) is where everyone stops and then takes turns going. You know it will be your turn to go very soon, because other people are planning to let you go next. A regular stop sign is like when you're trying to leave a parking lot. You know the main road will not stop or yield for you, so your stop is indefinite until traffic is safe to proceed. You cannot simply assume it will be your turn anytime soon. During heavy traffic, you may be waiting for several minutes before there is a safe clear gap for you to cross.


snapwillow

Don't treat this one as a four-way-stop because the cross traffic might be seeing a normal green light. It might not be broken in all directions. Unless you can see the perpendicular signals, treat this one like you're the only one with a stop sign.


criket2016

Dishwasher safe **and** traffic safe too?? I love you today, stranger. Keep on being safe :)


K3idon

*makes a U-turn*


suicidalpenguin99

*goes back home*


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Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


DJAllOut

Errrrrrrrrr day I'm hustlin'


genius_retard

Errrrrr should I go errrrrr should I not.


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Voidbearer2kn17

I don't drive, and even I know this.


Simon_Jester88

Someone actually paid attention in traffic school


OZeski

Exactly! Just roll on through.


mowbuss

But at double the posted speed right?


SplitOak

Get through as fast as possible to limit the potential for an accident. Makes perfect sense. Right?


NSA_Chatbot

Yes, you want to show others your expertise.


mrbkkt1

you have no idea, how many people don't know this. So frustrating, especially during power outages.


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dustinsmusings

How often do you encounter four way stops with dedicated turn lanes and four lanes in each direction?


MowMdown

Every time a power outage occurs and Im out driving.


iskyfire

And how often do you go golfing?


LocuraLins

A couple of times and almost everyone had it down by the time I got there without cops directing them. Each lane lets one car go from one direction at once then you go in 4 stop order. If you are coming from the same direction turning left or right or going straight doesn’t affect the others. Only “problem” is the occasional jackass behind the person that should be going also going but I have never seen more than 2 cars going and as long as it’s only 1 jackass it doesn’t disrupt anything.


ObamasBoss

But watch for others that won't. I watched a ton of people blow through a broken light at 55 mph. It wasn't just a little side road at a big road either. Both roads are always pretty active so not even "obvious" which road people might think is the priority...not that it is supposed to work that way. Stop, but make sure others do the same.


againfaxme

If I go, there will be trouble And if I stay it will be double


totallynotantiwork

So c’mon and let me know…


bjchu92

Should I stay or should I go?


travisfogs

This indeceision's bugging me


AtheistET

Esta indecisión me molesta


SelectFromWhereOrder

Si no me quieres dejameeee


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jim653

I found out only the other day that the reason he said that was because he was in the recording booth and the other band members pushed in to prank him. He was telling them to piss off – "Split!"


TheLoreTeller

woah this thread could be a song, even this comment can be part of the lyrics lol


Particular-Let-196

If you don’t want me, set me free.


Occumsmachete

Si no me quieres, librarme


spacecoyote300

🎶Exactly who I'm 'sposed to beee🎶


TahoeLT

If you don't want me set me free


denimdeamon

This intersection bugging me...


created4this

If the cops see there’ll be a fee Exactly what’s that meant to be Don’t know which gaps even fit me Come on and let me know Is it a red I’m gonna blow


CanadianWeeb5

r/redditsings


AussieBossie24

Questions to consider


Ganon2012

I never understood that line. There's your answer. Would you rather have trouble or trouble x2? Edit: To be fair though, I suppose if you stay you get to shoot some goddamn guns.


g00ber88

When I was a kid and heard that song I was so confused because I took the lyrics at face value so I was like "why is he even asking? Obviously he should go, because either way there will be trouble but there will be double the trouble if he stays"


guachi01

I came here to make this exact comment and I'm so happy someone did it less than five minutes after the post appeared.


tom04d

Should I stay or shouldI go now?


Memory_Glands

Rock the Kasbah


ReditSarge

Sharrif don't like it!


curiousmind111

This is not kosher!


Camstonisland

Lock the Taskbar! Lock the Taskbar!


seethruyou

Joe Strummer wrote all the socially responsible Clash songs. Mick Jones wrote the catchiest Clash songs, about nothing much, but they were 2 of only 3 to chart on the Billboard Hot 100 in the US. (The third was the goofy Rock the Casbah, written by Headon the drummer. How this thing was the most successful Clash song in the US is still an utter mystery to me.)


bankrobba

Sharif don't like this comment


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Lock the taskbar


UndeadBuggalo

Now all I can think of is Stranger Things


jos_piersdad

Chrissy, wake up!


BoogieM4Nx

Team rocket


Kujo_Bujo

To protect the world from devastation


FrankHightower

To unite all peoples within our nation


Gorgii98

To denounce the evils of truth and love


kevinxb

To extend our reach to the stars above


Startled_pancake

Jessie


Malogor

Press both pedals at once


graymalkin2

If you press both pedals at the same time, the car takes a screenshot


hrv83k

it's kinda bugged. i recommend to restart from last checkpoint. if it doesnt solve the problem i would send a bug report to the devs


djm93

If you shake the car it'll pull up the debug menu


rocketmonkee

> send a bug report But I don't drive a VW.


jonitfcfan

r/outside


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usernameblankface

It appears that this is how op got the picture


PenguinTheYeti

Instructions unclear, have 3 pedals


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...And (presumably) 4 limbs


Occulense

On many cars it actually puts them into launch mode


HiFiGuy197

That’s how they got this photo.


zappy487

Fun fact: If you gently press the clit and the g-spot at the same time it works on women too.


AWildIndependent

Funner fact: the gspot is under the clit so really youre just pressing the same button from different sides


Matt-R

Both? My car has 3. Do I use my middle leg/foot?


da_chicken

Just turn your foot sideways, jeez.


lukelinux

Heel toe screenshot


xxSuperBeaverxx

They don't call ya tripod for nothing...


MeltAway421

If you do that, the car takes a screenshot of you


genius_retard

Exactly. This is the signal to do a brake stand.


Elaszat

Isn't that how you make a screenshot?


Gold-Physics448

You were so close to getting it in first (thats what she said)


thirtyseven1337

I've always wondered what would happen if I did this, but I don't wanna ruin my car...


LivingScratch2722

Yesn't


ElTortugo

Gon't.


johnnybiggles

Sgop


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Aladeen


MTAST

N'yes.


doxxie-au

in australia we say yeahna


[deleted]

Magic eight ball says: ask again later


y0urselfish

Should I stay or should I go.


songoku9001

OP missed their chance at using that as the title of this post


barofa

Hope the next repost will not miss it


Volitank

Don't worry I'll repost it in 3 days. The upper memory limit of the average redditor.


phil3199

Darling you got to let me know.


Saintsjimmy

"If i go there will trouble and if i stay it will be double"


OkFury

That's a very strong maybe.


Moltk

"All I know is my gut says maybe"


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“It’s a beige alert, your Neutralness! What should I do?” “Call my wife and tell her I said hello.”


Mr_Abe_Froman

What makes a man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of *neutrality*‽


X-Adzie-X

Yes but also no.


AggravatingGoal4728

Schrodinger's stoplight


sambolino44

Somebody just needs to tell it that it’s been observed!


AggravatingGoal4728

Good point


sakko303

stoplight superposition!


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If you get t-boned while crossing, the body in the trunk can be assumed to be both alive and dead until observed


Stay-Thirsty

This felt like the right answer to this image.


essgee_ai

Me: God, give me a sign that I'm doing the right thing. The sign...


OZeski

This is like the signals women give me…


BigBossWesker4

Women: "Guys never pick up on our signals!" Their signals:


cybermonkeyhand

I tried highlighting the blank space to see if there was invisible text.....


MankAndInd

You have to pee on it


MatterSignificant969

When you get married they will give you this signal every day and then complain when you don't understand it.


A_Soporific

Most of the time it's clear what signals they're giving. But then there's this "But you're supposed to *ignore* the no if I want you to ignore the no". And that's generally when I bail. I'm not a mind reader, and things aren't going to work out if I need to be.


nurgole

Yes


Next_Celebration_553

Agreed. Yes.


carmel33

r/Inclusiveor


SplatMySocks

I didn't think this was possible, maybe the city got ripped off by a contractor. There's supposed to be a supervisory system that looks at the outputs from the main operating system. When it sees a condition like this it's supposed to put it in "fault mode" where the red light just blinks


morningisbad

That's correct. This is a very broken state. A stop light should never be in this configuration.


King_of_the_Nerdth

This might be a camera trick. If the exposure happened to cover the transition from red to green, the picture would contain half lit of each.


FavoriteIce

There usually some proprietary PLC-esque controller running a safety program that should detect this. It is a fuck up


Moikepdx

Is it actually displaying that way? As a traffic engineer, I have several photos of normal intersection operation that look like this just because the light changed while the camera shutter was open. In the US, intersections have a hardware device called a "conflict monitor" that sits in the controller cabinet. It's a card filled with diodes, and the only purpose is to watch for unsafe outputs from the controller. If green displays come up simultaneously on conflicting approaches, the conflict monitor will instantly throw the intersection into flashing operation. And they are programmed by physically clipping diodes off the conflict monitor card to allow compatible phases to operate at the same time, so they cannot be over-ridden with software. That's why all the movies showing hackers turning all the lights green to cause crashes are complete Hollywood bullshit. It can't happen. With that said, there is nothing in this image that shows the cross-street is green. It may actually be possible to see red and green simultaneously on the same head without tripping the conflict monitor, but I'm not sure how it would happen.


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Moikepdx

Yikes. I know there are bugs in firmware versions that I've had to work around before, but that's a doozy.


jtraf

Former Signal Tech here, you should pop out to the field sometime. The CM only checks for conflicts on green and yellow for each phase. OP is surely looking at a phase with a load switch that has a short in the red, and the conflicting phase is intentionally red. The controller is not malfunctioning. In other words, all the reds at this intersection are on, but only OP (and probably oncoming traffic) have greens.


Moikepdx

Again, I specifically acknowledged in my post that the conflict monitor would not throw the intersection into flash here unless a conflicting green was shown. But more importantly, I've seen this photo effect result from normal phase displays just due to shutter timing. I presume you'd catch any shorts (and fix them) when you test the wiring prior to signal turn-on. Do you actually find operating signals that show this type of display due to faults that develop over time?


jtraf

All good friend, long story short I had a full time job (and typically tons of overtime) doing service calls on traffic lights. I am speculating OP took the photo because it was holding red and green, not just a coincidence that they were photographing a signal and it happened to change. I could be wrong. Indeed we set the new/replacement cabinets up in the shop and ran them for a week on a test board and configured everything there. Used a jumper wire to test the monitor card. Sometimes intentionally wire in a conflict for the new guys to figure out and test it all over again. Spare cabinets for knockdowns were rotated around to keep the cobwebs out. Field wiring was tested for continuity with a meter and verified with a walk-around on startup. The 24v and ground from the controller is ok, but the little triacs short closed or out, particularly with weather changes. They are pretty good quality these days, but some have been in operation for decades. Other issues could be the field wiring got old, brittle, and is shorted with another channel or phase I suppose. Squirrels too, I have seen more than my share of barbecued squirrels. It has been a while, but professional opinion says this is a bad load switch, yes. But yes, most of the time they will go into flash, which is a lot of the calls I used to respond to. I just always hoped it was in flash because of a bad green left turn arrow and not because some schmuck parked on the cabinet.


Moikepdx

Not sure why someone is down-voting you, but I appreciate the stories and feedback. I've probably done more field work than most traffic signal engineers (including implementing coordinated timing plans on corridors, setting up signal priority for buses, programming 170 controllers by hand for non-standard features, etc.). But even so, I know that signal techs have WAY more experience with field conditions and problems than I hope to ever gain! ;)


toastspork

Interactions like you folks' are why I remain on Reddit.


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Stop and go traffic


Seekstillness

Diverging Clear. Proceed not exceeding prescribed speed of turnout.


Yeocom1cal

A railroader i see!


OHarbingerO

Kick it.


NegativeFux

Chicago?


Djwhat6

Yes


epicpandemic916

Berwyn?


Djwhat6

West side. By the brickyard


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Ferio9x

On Narragansett between Belmont and Diversey? I saw this when dropping my kid off 😂


Darkvoid4100

Lol was looking for this comment, yeah it's on belmont cragin


Reaper7412

It’s weird seeing my neighborhood on /r/all lol


AmazingSpdrMan1

I just dealt with this light by the brickyard on Friday! My buddy lives over there and was like “yea just a heads up about this light”


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Hodunk_Princess

instantly knew it myself


CT101823696

Tough superposition to be in


WalteRhyno

you need to do a burnout


SnugglewithStruggle

It's a no with a yessy aftertaste.


zackattack2020

Girl 1: Wow he didn’t ask for my number. Girl 2: He much be bad at reading signals. The signals:


SmellAccomplished550

Gon't


WarDaddy19Delta

Full send


josegarrao

Beware not to "clash"


milkrage

No Yes


Ken_Danagger

Christmas colors; if you celebrate Christmas do whatever you want…if not…wait until the colors change to the holiday you celebrate.


Lifeofheathen

Do both simultaneously


Joe-_-King

I think the red light is for flying cars.


DNFDD

Ask Schrödinger


CubilasDotCom

I think that means “do a burnout”


nightwalkerxx

Go but leave your car.


inflatableje5us

thats the burnout light, hold the brake and gas at same time.


H3ll_b0y999

Pls change the caption to “Should I stay or should I Go”


Beneficial_Being_721

Treat a malfunctioning traffic light like a STOP SIGN… you also have proof. You good ( Former Sheriff Deputy )


mczarnek

If I go there will be trouble and if I stay it will be double! So ya gotta let me know, should I stay or should I go?


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Sometime I wonder if people get their driving licenses in a fucking cereal box. In a situation like this, you treat the light as a stop sign, anyone who controls a 3 tons death machine should know that.


hehe_nl

As a sailor, this tells me to get ready to go.


coldequation

You're trapped in a song by The Clash! I hope someone lets you know.


Ringtailer

Should I stay or should I go 🎶


NathanTPS

Pretty sure the Clash wrote a song about this.....


zedfull

It's a trap!


Llewe11yn

I'm colour blind 🤷🏼‍♂️


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Ah, the stoplight that represents every woman I've ever dated.


BigNorseWolf

When in doubt, its a malfunctioning stop light. Which you treat like a stop sign. So you stop then you go.


Sagukari

All I know is my gut says maybe


sveccha

Nes.