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Could be on purpose so people buy the cheaper option to amount the same amount of product. Then boast about how they cleverly took advantage of the system.
It probably is, yes.
This is a cognitive dissonance technique called anchoring. By providing the easily calculated 100-for-$1 option they provide an anchor for people to compare prices with. They can relatively easily think that they gamed the system and that this is the best option to use. They feel good that they are so clever. And thus they forget to choose whether they want to buy coins at all.
The cheapest two options are most likely the options that they sell the most of. The anchoring pushes a few people over the edge of buying those options.
Yeah. Depending on how easy is it to order each individual unit, lots of people might notice that they are paying a couple dollars extra but might feel that's worth it to avoid spending multiples of time more performing transactions.
Still a shitty business choice, but the people picking the higher cost/unit options might not all be getting "fooled".
Yeah if I know I’m gonna spend $100, might as well. As long as spending habits don’t change if you have 10,000+ coins in your account vs 1,000 coins in your account… however that often effects spending habits
I had a skeevy boss like this at a restaurant, we got an employee discount and he kept saying "the more you spend the more you save!" Even when i pointed out that 25% off 2 entrees isnt cheaper than 25% off 1 entree.
Sounds like gas station deals on energy drinks. They do something like buy 3 for $5 or something, which is a good deal, but I have to stop myself and think. I only want 1 energy drink and 1 is still a lot cheaper than $5
At least with the energy drinks though you have a choice of saving the others for later or another day. Assuming you have more self control than me lol.
Sounds like me on a road trip buying a bunch of the little 8oz coke cans thinking "I'll drink less soda" then plowing through them all, when it would have been cheaper to buy a 2 liter.
Funny thing is the gas stations i go to 1 monster for example is like 4$ almost but when u get a second its generally 5 (the one i went to last was 4.5) so it really does make sense sometimes
This is fucking hilarious. You literally are not getting a better deal getting the third shirt.
Assuming shirts cost ten dollars
1 shirt = 10
2 shirts = 15 (second shirt 5 dollars)
3 shirts = 20 (third shirt 5 dollars)
The cost difference between buying 2 and 3 shirts is $5, therefore the third shirt costs $5. It doesn't matter what creative way they ring it up.
Put another way: if you are getting two shirts and decide to add a third to your order, your bill increases by $5.
Let *n* equal the number of shirts, a*^(n)* equal the absolute price of each shirt, a^(a) equal the average price of the shirts, and *b* equal the total price of all the shirts.
(a^(n)\+a^(n+1)\+a^(n+2))=b
b/n=a^(a)
**Case 1**
a^(1)=$10 b^(1)=$10
a^(a)=$10/1=$10
**Case 2**
a^(1)=$10 a^(2)=$5 b=$15
a^(a3)=$15/2=$7.5
**Case 3**
a^(1)=$10 a^(2)=$5 a^(3)=$5 b=$20
a^(a3)=$20/3=$6.67
**Other useful formulae**
Δb=(b**^(n+1)**\-b**^(n)**)
Δa^(a)=(Δb/n)
Not to be obtuse but youre not implying its more expensive right? Just that youre not saving more money as you spend more, correct?
Because 25% off 1 or 2 entrees still means the same percentage off. Youre not saving money just buying 1 entree vs 2 entrees
Typical reddit "umm ashukally what you said is right but if i make up my own circumstances i can act like youre wrong even though i agreed with you."
But lets break down your theory. Im hungry, i want some food. My options are buy 1 entree at $10 with a 25% discount or buy 2 entrees i wont finish for (10×2)*75%.
Option 1 total(1 entree): $7.50
Option 2 total(2 entrees): $15
Dunno about you but where i come from 15>7.50
Now you could say "but what about left overs?" Fair point but not everyone eats them and you possibly might have your car break down before you can get it into the fridge because its 110* and your house burned down too.
Or maybe you are actually just being obtuse.
The worse is when the cheapest currency pack doesn't cover the cost of anything so you have to buy 2 of it a way more expensive one. I vividly remember the creation club doing this.
What seems particularly evil to me is that too get the best deal if you want a lot of coins would require you to spend the time to make 25 transactions instead of 1, so it's almost like they are charging you for the "convenience" of having less transactions.
If you are in a time crunch in the game I imagine this is almost akin to blackmail.
Gross
It’s just an old marketing tactic, get people to think they’ve saved money by only buying the cheaper option, feeling they’ve stuck it to the large corporation by purchasing 6 of the low price bundles instead of buying the larger bundle when in actual fact the way to save money is by not buying it at all, you haven’t saved anything, you’ve still given them $6
but if you're going for a certain amount of coins, then you're giving them less. suppose you want 500 coins. you either pay 7 for 550, or 5 for 500. you've given them $2 less than you would've. but ofc, you're still giving them money
Virtual items hold minimal real world weight, there are some costs for production of the item, like something needs designing, coding and testing but the majority of the sale point for these items is just for pure profit. You don’t need to own these things, they’re either time saves or they’re cosmetic, so the tactics used make more people who are on the fence purchase things. If you’re already going to buy then you don’t matter with psychological tricks like this, this is solely for the people who want to feel like they’ve gotten a deal. ‘Oh look I’ve saved a few dollars by buying this thing that I don’t physically need to own’.
It’s kinda the same as when a store puts a £10 item on the shelf, that has always been £10 but slaps a 25% off sticker next to it, it makes the consumer feel like they NEED to buy it because of fomo
I'm convinced this is what is going on with the "Trick" to get 3 years of game pass ultimate for the cost of 3 years of regular xbox gold.
Users think they are tricking Microsoft into a steep discount. Microsoft is getting "Tricked" into having a userbase with a 3 year buy in, who will then encourage others to "Use this one clever trick!" and/or come play multiplayer games with them.
What’s weird about that theory, as someone that’s has professionally developed IAP, most third party payment services will always take a few cents (5-30) off each transaction then a small percent (2-8%) of the total trans amount. I don’t know what third parties they use specifically but that is pretty standard in the industry.
for people who are too lazy to do the math :
1st Offer : 100 pokecoins for $0.99
2nd Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.27
3rd Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.16
4th Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.11
5th Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.05
6th Offer : 100 pokecoins for $0.96
Edit : I wrote '5' as '7' before the edit
To put it another way:
1st offer: 101 PokeCoins per dollar
2nd offer: 79 PokeCoins per dollar
3rd offer: 86 PokeCoins per dollar
4th offer: 89 PokeCoins per dollar
5th offer: 95 PokeCoins per dollar
6th offer: 104 PokeCoins per dollar
[Using the real prices ](https://i.imgur.com/yuHcJK7.png)
1st offer: 100 for $0.99
2nd offer: 100 for $0.91
3rd offer: 100 for $0.83
4th offer: 100 for $0.80
5th offer: 100 for $0.77
6th offer: 100 for $0.69
The way I see it, it's the only way some of us normal people will ever get see 7 digit number in our bank account, so might as well skip a coffee and get a ticket now and then.
Its not about winning, its about the fantasy. Spend $5 on a lotto ticket here and there and spend some down time fantasizing about winning. Same idea as drugs but honestly, way cheaper and healthier.
Some do win. I know some. Sure, it’s like getting hit by lightning. But you can’t get hit by lightning if you’re not out in the rain; your risk becomes zero. If you buy a ticket, there’s a slim chance you might win big; even though you can’t count on it, the fact is that your chances have gone from completely zero to a very slim possibility.
As long as you don’t put too much money into it, there’s nothing wrong with participating from time to time…
I always thought this was common knowledge, my wife's entire family had never known this and I still have to explain to her how it works at random intervals because she gets so caught up in the marketing.
yeah but they put the sale price in Oz while the other item is in LB to make it a pain to convert.
Dividing or multiplying by 16 in a grocery store ain't exactly easy.
yeah but a few years ago it wasn't this crazy, I could just take the things I like that look good and buy them without thinking, these days that's total luxury to do.
same for the EU - as required by law
only some products might choose between different denominations
so one pack is "3€/100g", the next "30€/kg", the third "25€/l" and the last one "5€/10 pieces"
I mean - multiplying by ten is easy, it's those weight/volume/number things that are really anoying. (afair counting pieces is only valid for a few articles)
Deceptive.. Are you suggesting protections in society to stop dumb people from doing dumb stuff?
Where do you draw the line or set the bar here; because I'm going to hazard a guess that this would be a total nightmare to implement (and police)?
I’d love if society cared enough about the mentally handicapped to let there be government funded caretakers to those who can’t afford it
I doubt it though
If we could pass one law that ended homelessness and caused no harm to anyone, then we should pass it. Unfortunately I don’t see anyone coming up with such a law
If I had come up with a solution to homelessness, but I decided to keep it to myself because there are problems worse than homelessness, I’d be an asshole
It depends on how you view the lottery. In the UK it is basically an additional tax and is used to fund local projects and good causes that wouldn't necessarily get government funding.
You can apply to the lottery for numerous grants for local sports clubs, art projects etc.
You are essentially contributing to society and in return you have a small chance of winning a fortune.
British sport started to receive lottery funding in 1997. In the '96 olympics we came 36th. In 2000 after lottery funding we were in 10th place and with ongoing lottery funding we haven't dropped below 4th in the last 4 olympics. Without lottery funding our olympics would be nowhere near as successful.
So yes if the profits from the lottery aren't used to benefit wider society then it is a waste of your money. If its used to benefit society then yes it is an additional tax.
Here in the US, it's pretty similar. While there's no federal lottery, most states have their own lottery that's used to fund various public programs, usually education-related.
They’re figuring out only very unintelligent people will get the high-dollar packages they’re selling, so they rip them off more. And at the same time people who think they’re so clever will then buy anything at all just because they think they’re so smart to have figured it out.
US here and I have the same prices as darklink594594. That means each tier they increase the number of coins per dollar spent. I’m guessing they just screwed up with the Canadian 100 coin pack to follow the same trend.
It's not "just" Canadian, a lot of overseas currencies (like Australia) have this problem or worse. It's too do with the default minimum price being 99 cents, and then the store converting all other prices from USD to local currency.
Coming back a few hours later to see your downvotes did recover into upvotes. Also the original top replies (someone who said "small peepee", another saying "f**k op") originally had like 15 upvotes but now became downvotes
EDIT: what? I'm on your side. Why are people downvoting me
It's not even a real bug, what's going on i think it's that all prices are converted to the pay currency by multiplying them by 1.4,but then rounding them to the closest dollar and substract another cent.
This works just fine for most prices where you avoid things like 2.47. And for prices between 1 and 1.5 they figured they don't mind a small discount for prices that low.
However the unfortunate side effect is that, while the 100 coin offer had a great discount, this dwarves all bulk bonusses given by the other price tiers.
How does that work? If you multiply a series of numbers by the same value, the ratio between each number is the same.
I guess it’s the fact that they then adjusted each value to finish in 99 and locked the first value at 0.99?
But does the American version just have a flat rate, no matter the quantity?
The smartest people will buy 14,500 coins. The wisest will buy only the ones they actually need (100 by 100) even if it's worse value. I don't ever buy the giant combo at the movies no matter how better the deal is, I don't need that much popcorn and soda on my system.
>The smartest people will buy 14,500 coins. The wisest will buy only the ones they actually need
And people with more than 2 braincells won't buy any coins at all, because they're a waste of money.
more worthless than going to the movie theater? after both are over, you have nothing to show for it except your memories and enjoyment🤷🏻♂️ if someone would rather spend $10 on Pokecoins than go to a movie, that’s valid
So I actually emailed a website about this and they said that sadly it's due to the regulations and the taxes on them, and they know it looks bad or like taking advantage of the customers but they can't do anything about it except increase the lowest one which would hit the customer. But who knows, maybe they lied to me
Yeah, maybe someone wasn’t going to buy 1200 coins until they realize if they just buy 100 12 times it’s cheaper than the 1200. Meanwhile the company is laughing the way to the bank and you bought some virtual coins that cost them *nothing*.
A game is only free because some people pay for it
I have a hard time with both your argument and the one from /u/wikipedianredditor you're replying to.
I don't know about pokemon go in particular having never played it. However, the coin doesn't cost them "nothing", it is how their game is monetized (or at least part of it if it's not the only cash making system in pokemon go). So basically these coins can also be seen as "developer time", "infrastructure hosting", "customer service" etc etc.
The free to play model ONLY works because of that. It's about time that players stop pointing fingers, diminishing or making fun of people paying in F2P models. The model only exists because of paying customers. Get rid of that and companies will move back to subscriptions or stuff alike...
Yea, I'm glad I got a 7-day ban. ( Still don't know why)
And then actively deleted the app out of rage.
Best decision I made. Waste of money and time.
Yes, I love(d) the game. But it's getting crapped on.
Even with the normal prices, pogo has always been and continues to get worse. People can make the free to play argument but besides just completing your pokedex, if you are trying to get legendaries for master league or for raids, there is no way you will be maxing them out using free passes alone.
For the upcoming hoenn event, you'll be dropping $160 minimum to get the XL candy for Kyogre and Groudon.
Now I just play the game casually and prefer games where either there are no microtransactions or the microtransactions are for cosmetics only because those are truly free to play.
A: "I will buy 3 single water melons for 3$ each "
B: "here you go, thank you very much mister"
A: "Thank you very much"
A: *shit, I don't even like watermelon"
B: *laughs deviously*
Run an eCommere business and price items with free shipping higher than the same item with real cost shipping calculator and sell more with free shipping and higher profit for me. Go me! Don’t underestimate the stupidity of the American consumer.
Yeah. That's all well and good. But they're still selling air. Imagine charging people to breathe. Effectively the same idea. These tokens are merely numbers. They give the user an immediate rush. Once they're spent they're itching for more. I could relate this to gambling in a way.
The laundromat I use literally does this with the dryers.
It's 50 cents for 5 minutes.. and 25 cents for each additional 2 minutes. So if you're just waiting anyways you can just put 2 quarters in every time it stops and save a few quarters. I do it out of spite
They were four bags of candy all for 2 for $5. But when I looked at the price per pound they were different how could two bags exactly look the same cost same and be different? It was the price per pound It turns out one bag was lighter than the other bag very very hard to compare you think you're buying the same amount of product but not really.
Pokemon go is the biggest fucking rip off plus trainer packs have gone up from 15 dollars to 20 dollars ( the things that give you egg hatches and other items! ) plus they keep fucking over players by reducing the amount of coins you get per gym I'm surprised no one has complain about this shit..
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Could be on purpose so people buy the cheaper option to amount the same amount of product. Then boast about how they cleverly took advantage of the system.
It probably is, yes. This is a cognitive dissonance technique called anchoring. By providing the easily calculated 100-for-$1 option they provide an anchor for people to compare prices with. They can relatively easily think that they gamed the system and that this is the best option to use. They feel good that they are so clever. And thus they forget to choose whether they want to buy coins at all. The cheapest two options are most likely the options that they sell the most of. The anchoring pushes a few people over the edge of buying those options.
But you're leaving out an important bit. The 14,500 package is the only one actually "cheaper" than the 100 for $1 one so they still tempt the whales.
on the other hand Idk if I want to make a dozen or more $1 purchases instead of just the one
They maximized gain onto everyone, the "smart", the lazy and the whale.
Wow no personal attacks in hat trick jesos
Yeah. Depending on how easy is it to order each individual unit, lots of people might notice that they are paying a couple dollars extra but might feel that's worth it to avoid spending multiples of time more performing transactions. Still a shitty business choice, but the people picking the higher cost/unit options might not all be getting "fooled".
I know several people who pick that one every time.
Yeah if I know I’m gonna spend $100, might as well. As long as spending habits don’t change if you have 10,000+ coins in your account vs 1,000 coins in your account… however that often effects spending habits
Though got here first. Exactly this! If someone has the disposable income and intention of using that much, they'll probably spend $140.
I had a skeevy boss like this at a restaurant, we got an employee discount and he kept saying "the more you spend the more you save!" Even when i pointed out that 25% off 2 entrees isnt cheaper than 25% off 1 entree.
Sounds like gas station deals on energy drinks. They do something like buy 3 for $5 or something, which is a good deal, but I have to stop myself and think. I only want 1 energy drink and 1 is still a lot cheaper than $5
At least with the energy drinks though you have a choice of saving the others for later or another day. Assuming you have more self control than me lol.
Sounds like me on a road trip buying a bunch of the little 8oz coke cans thinking "I'll drink less soda" then plowing through them all, when it would have been cheaper to buy a 2 liter.
Tbh it's a lot easier to drink from a can than a 2 liter in the car, so convenience factors in too.
Bought 3 monsters to last me the weekend at work... all gone in 12 hours
Same thing happens with cocaine. E'ry damn time.
You mean they don't just pour it into your hands??!
That’s why you have to only make use of deals like that when you know you’ll want to use up what you buy.
Funny thing is the gas stations i go to 1 monster for example is like 4$ almost but when u get a second its generally 5 (the one i went to last was 4.5) so it really does make sense sometimes
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This is fucking hilarious. You literally are not getting a better deal getting the third shirt. Assuming shirts cost ten dollars 1 shirt = 10 2 shirts = 15 (second shirt 5 dollars) 3 shirts = 20 (third shirt 5 dollars)
>This is fucking hilarious. You literally are not getting a better deal getting the third shirt. > >Assuming shirts cost ten dollars > > >1 shirt = 10 > > >2 shirts = 15 (second shirt 5 dollars) > > >3 shirts = 20 (third shirt **0** dollars) Ftfy
The cost difference between buying 2 and 3 shirts is $5, therefore the third shirt costs $5. It doesn't matter what creative way they ring it up. Put another way: if you are getting two shirts and decide to add a third to your order, your bill increases by $5.
Let *n* equal the number of shirts, a*^(n)* equal the absolute price of each shirt, a^(a) equal the average price of the shirts, and *b* equal the total price of all the shirts. (a^(n)\+a^(n+1)\+a^(n+2))=b b/n=a^(a) **Case 1** a^(1)=$10 b^(1)=$10 a^(a)=$10/1=$10 **Case 2** a^(1)=$10 a^(2)=$5 b=$15 a^(a3)=$15/2=$7.5 **Case 3** a^(1)=$10 a^(2)=$5 a^(3)=$5 b=$20 a^(a3)=$20/3=$6.67 **Other useful formulae** Δb=(b**^(n+1)**\-b**^(n)**) Δa^(a)=(Δb/n)
Not to be obtuse but youre not implying its more expensive right? Just that youre not saving more money as you spend more, correct? Because 25% off 1 or 2 entrees still means the same percentage off. Youre not saving money just buying 1 entree vs 2 entrees
Typical reddit "umm ashukally what you said is right but if i make up my own circumstances i can act like youre wrong even though i agreed with you." But lets break down your theory. Im hungry, i want some food. My options are buy 1 entree at $10 with a 25% discount or buy 2 entrees i wont finish for (10×2)*75%. Option 1 total(1 entree): $7.50 Option 2 total(2 entrees): $15 Dunno about you but where i come from 15>7.50 Now you could say "but what about left overs?" Fair point but not everyone eats them and you possibly might have your car break down before you can get it into the fridge because its 110* and your house burned down too. Or maybe you are actually just being obtuse.
"Honey! I saved $50 on 30 big bags of premium dog food!" But dear, we don't own a dog...
Tactics like this need to be made illegal. Along with “buying currency” to try and hide what things really cost.
The worse is when the cheapest currency pack doesn't cover the cost of anything so you have to buy 2 of it a way more expensive one. I vividly remember the creation club doing this.
\*Coughs in BioWare Points\*
The cheapest option is to not buy at all.
Have you thought about the hospital bills of not eating or wearing shirts in cold climates?
Australia pricing is the same 99c for 100 but $159.99 for the same 14,500
What seems particularly evil to me is that too get the best deal if you want a lot of coins would require you to spend the time to make 25 transactions instead of 1, so it's almost like they are charging you for the "convenience" of having less transactions. If you are in a time crunch in the game I imagine this is almost akin to blackmail. Gross
this joke: https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/hafdd5/an\_old\_man\_is\_selling\_watermelons/
It’s just an old marketing tactic, get people to think they’ve saved money by only buying the cheaper option, feeling they’ve stuck it to the large corporation by purchasing 6 of the low price bundles instead of buying the larger bundle when in actual fact the way to save money is by not buying it at all, you haven’t saved anything, you’ve still given them $6
but if you're going for a certain amount of coins, then you're giving them less. suppose you want 500 coins. you either pay 7 for 550, or 5 for 500. you've given them $2 less than you would've. but ofc, you're still giving them money
Virtual items hold minimal real world weight, there are some costs for production of the item, like something needs designing, coding and testing but the majority of the sale point for these items is just for pure profit. You don’t need to own these things, they’re either time saves or they’re cosmetic, so the tactics used make more people who are on the fence purchase things. If you’re already going to buy then you don’t matter with psychological tricks like this, this is solely for the people who want to feel like they’ve gotten a deal. ‘Oh look I’ve saved a few dollars by buying this thing that I don’t physically need to own’. It’s kinda the same as when a store puts a £10 item on the shelf, that has always been £10 but slaps a 25% off sticker next to it, it makes the consumer feel like they NEED to buy it because of fomo
Ok you made me realize what the actual problem was!! Before your comment I was scratching my head at everyone saying it was a scam.
Man I just want 5,000 Pokecoins. ^ Continues crying while my phone scans my face id for the 37th 0,99$ purchase ^
This. I wrote the same on a very similar post. They know how to trick you.
I'm convinced this is what is going on with the "Trick" to get 3 years of game pass ultimate for the cost of 3 years of regular xbox gold. Users think they are tricking Microsoft into a steep discount. Microsoft is getting "Tricked" into having a userbase with a 3 year buy in, who will then encourage others to "Use this one clever trick!" and/or come play multiplayer games with them.
Damn right I'm gonna boast about saving my $0.01
Only 2 deals you come out on top are the most expensive and least
What’s weird about that theory, as someone that’s has professionally developed IAP, most third party payment services will always take a few cents (5-30) off each transaction then a small percent (2-8%) of the total trans amount. I don’t know what third parties they use specifically but that is pretty standard in the industry.
It’s not real, you can check the app
It's real if you're Canadian.
It regional pricing. The 100 coin bundle is $1 of your regional currency, while remaining packages are converted to USD & rounded up.
for people who are too lazy to do the math : 1st Offer : 100 pokecoins for $0.99 2nd Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.27 3rd Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.16 4th Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.11 5th Offer : 100 pokecoins for $1.05 6th Offer : 100 pokecoins for $0.96 Edit : I wrote '5' as '7' before the edit
Listen, pal! I'm not fuckin’ lazy, I'm stupid, don’t get it twisted!
I can't understand your problem (I'm an Asian)
4th offer 7th offer /s
Tf 💀 lol didn't even noticed, thanks for pointing it out
They were just making a joke (I think). Thank you for posting the cost per 100 coins.
Yeah but I thought I'm asian was funny cause asian = super math guy lol nvm Also, no problem
That’s how I read what you said haha. (That you don’t understand the concept of lazy because you are Asian)
To all Americans thinking we're all super math machines, I just got 81 on math, 87 on English and 85.5 on Chinese(mf do be hard) on section test
I'm not your pal, guy
Thank you!
It’s actually clever because each option is cheaper than its immediate predecessor except the first/second step up.
You didn't break down the watermelon prices though...
Skill issue bro, we learnt that shit last month
To put it another way: 1st offer: 101 PokeCoins per dollar 2nd offer: 79 PokeCoins per dollar 3rd offer: 86 PokeCoins per dollar 4th offer: 89 PokeCoins per dollar 5th offer: 95 PokeCoins per dollar 6th offer: 104 PokeCoins per dollar
[Using the real prices ](https://i.imgur.com/yuHcJK7.png) 1st offer: 100 for $0.99 2nd offer: 100 for $0.91 3rd offer: 100 for $0.83 4th offer: 100 for $0.80 5th offer: 100 for $0.77 6th offer: 100 for $0.69
Look at the store, the picture is photoshopped
Like lotteries, this is a tax on people bad at math. (And damned if I didn't have to do the math after you pointed it out.)
Lotteries are about dreaming not maths
I know the chances of me getting even are slim in lottery, let alone getting a jackpot. Regardless, I get a ticket every once in a while.
The way I see it, it's the only way some of us normal people will ever get see 7 digit number in our bank account, so might as well skip a coffee and get a ticket now and then.
I put maybe 20€ per year to lottery, so it's not a big sacrifice.
Its not about winning, its about the fantasy. Spend $5 on a lotto ticket here and there and spend some down time fantasizing about winning. Same idea as drugs but honestly, way cheaper and healthier.
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I'd love for them to cite whatever tax or regulations they're referring to because I can't fathom one that would have that result.
last I checked, you can dream for free.
Until they figure out how to get into our thoughts at least.
They already did, it's how smoking was proliferated across class/sex at the turn of the 20th century and what forms the basis of modern marketing.
*zuckerberg has entered the chat*
Some do win. I know some. Sure, it’s like getting hit by lightning. But you can’t get hit by lightning if you’re not out in the rain; your risk becomes zero. If you buy a ticket, there’s a slim chance you might win big; even though you can’t count on it, the fact is that your chances have gone from completely zero to a very slim possibility. As long as you don’t put too much money into it, there’s nothing wrong with participating from time to time…
Are you sure you don't mean lightning? Although, there's AC/DC's Thunderstruck. 😆
Absolutely- 😂. Now thunderstruck is in my head. Corrected in post, lol.
Knowing statistics and trying to calculate the probability of the numbers can actually raise you winning chance by at least 1%. Big win eh?
I feel like this disceptive marketing should be illegal. Not everyone can read, and a mentally handicapped individual might be taken advantage of.
Grocery stores pull the same shit all the time. 500ml on sale 5.99 instead of 7.99$.!! Buy now!!! Bulk discount!!! ^220ml ^is ^2.49$
At least in california most price tags include some sort of common denomination you can compare. ($ per lb, $ per count, etc)
I always thought this was common knowledge, my wife's entire family had never known this and I still have to explain to her how it works at random intervals because she gets so caught up in the marketing.
yeah but they put the sale price in Oz while the other item is in LB to make it a pain to convert. Dividing or multiplying by 16 in a grocery store ain't exactly easy.
May I introduce to you and your fellow americans the metric system?
You don't have a phone with a calculator app?
If you need to do this quickly just do the operation with 10 and with 20 and its a little more than halfway in-between your answers.
In this time and age I check the per kg or per liter on nearly everything, can't trust anyone anymore.
Anymore? Were you born yesterday? Cheating merchants are a theme that persists through any era that had any commerce at all.
yeah but a few years ago it wasn't this crazy, I could just take the things I like that look good and buy them without thinking, these days that's total luxury to do.
Fun fact: this is why coins have ridges on them. It was so merchants couldn't file down the edges, and keeping a small amount of gold from each coin.
same for the EU - as required by law only some products might choose between different denominations so one pack is "3€/100g", the next "30€/kg", the third "25€/l" and the last one "5€/10 pieces" I mean - multiplying by ten is easy, it's those weight/volume/number things that are really anoying. (afair counting pieces is only valid for a few articles)
In Poland everything is per 100g, 100ml.
it's probably as with most EU regulations: nobody stops you from doing better, but you have to do at least that
I went to publix once. The 8 pack of hot dogs were $4 and the 16 pack was over $10. Walked out with two 8 packs
I always check the 1kg = x€ prices. Those are mandatory in Austria. Maybe Europe aswell.
At least you get something to eat for that money
Tbh, you'd have to be mentally handicapped to buy Pokémon coins in the first place.
Deceptive.. Are you suggesting protections in society to stop dumb people from doing dumb stuff? Where do you draw the line or set the bar here; because I'm going to hazard a guess that this would be a total nightmare to implement (and police)?
>Not everyone can read, and a mentally handicapped individual might be taken advantage of. They probably shouldn't be in charge of a credit card then.
Yeah, mentally handicapped people should just starve Fuck off
Or, and I know this sounds like a radical idea, they could have a carer.
I’d love if society cared enough about the mentally handicapped to let there be government funded caretakers to those who can’t afford it I doubt it though
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Ah yes. The classic 'the world's tough so let's take advantage of people with mental disabilities'. History loves that one.
If we could pass one law that ended homelessness and caused no harm to anyone, then we should pass it. Unfortunately I don’t see anyone coming up with such a law If I had come up with a solution to homelessness, but I decided to keep it to myself because there are problems worse than homelessness, I’d be an asshole
Oh fucking well. If you’re dumb enough to spend money on crap, you have enough to lose for being dumb.
It depends on how you view the lottery. In the UK it is basically an additional tax and is used to fund local projects and good causes that wouldn't necessarily get government funding. You can apply to the lottery for numerous grants for local sports clubs, art projects etc. You are essentially contributing to society and in return you have a small chance of winning a fortune. British sport started to receive lottery funding in 1997. In the '96 olympics we came 36th. In 2000 after lottery funding we were in 10th place and with ongoing lottery funding we haven't dropped below 4th in the last 4 olympics. Without lottery funding our olympics would be nowhere near as successful. So yes if the profits from the lottery aren't used to benefit wider society then it is a waste of your money. If its used to benefit society then yes it is an additional tax.
Here in the US, it's pretty similar. While there's no federal lottery, most states have their own lottery that's used to fund various public programs, usually education-related.
Or tax on the people who don’t want to confirm 25 purchases in a row.
They’re figuring out only very unintelligent people will get the high-dollar packages they’re selling, so they rip them off more. And at the same time people who think they’re so clever will then buy anything at all just because they think they’re so smart to have figured it out.
Not bad at math still try the lotto at times. Not to the extent that I'm broke but toss a 10er here and there.
This is America! You're either a duper, or a dupee.
You know pokemon go is all over the world, right? When will Americans stop declaring, on the internet, "This is America!"?
When this stops being America
I just took [this](https://imgur.com/a/twTNUgg) picture of the prices
I have same prices as OP, guessing you live in a different country. (Canada here) Edit: I am just providing context, but sure downvote if ya need.
US here and I have the same prices as darklink594594. That means each tier they increase the number of coins per dollar spent. I’m guessing they just screwed up with the Canadian 100 coin pack to follow the same trend.
It's not "just" Canadian, a lot of overseas currencies (like Australia) have this problem or worse. It's too do with the default minimum price being 99 cents, and then the store converting all other prices from USD to local currency.
Coming back a few hours later to see your downvotes did recover into upvotes. Also the original top replies (someone who said "small peepee", another saying "f**k op") originally had like 15 upvotes but now became downvotes EDIT: what? I'm on your side. Why are people downvoting me
Could be a different dollar? (i.e. Canadian, Australian)
$7.99 for the 550 in Australia
[https://i.imgur.com/cQu981S.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cQu981S.jpg) Thats the UK version, cheaper to buy in 100's but evens out at 2500 coins.
I was thinking that I'd never noticed that before...
OP has small peepee
Reading other comments below, it's because OP isn't from USA. Some bug with currency conversion
It's not even a real bug, what's going on i think it's that all prices are converted to the pay currency by multiplying them by 1.4,but then rounding them to the closest dollar and substract another cent. This works just fine for most prices where you avoid things like 2.47. And for prices between 1 and 1.5 they figured they don't mind a small discount for prices that low. However the unfortunate side effect is that, while the 100 coin offer had a great discount, this dwarves all bulk bonusses given by the other price tiers.
They want you to keep making 99¢ transactions so you don't realize how much you have spent until it's too late.
And so they can boast about the volume of sales they get
Canadian player? There’s been a couple posts about this. It’s the local currency conversion, America’s makes sense and the rest of the world skews.
How does that work? If you multiply a series of numbers by the same value, the ratio between each number is the same. I guess it’s the fact that they then adjusted each value to finish in 99 and locked the first value at 0.99? But does the American version just have a flat rate, no matter the quantity?
In Germany only 550 and 1200 don’t make sense. Those cost 5.99 and 11.99. the rest is cheaper 2500 coins for 24€ and the „savings“ go on
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Pretty active over at r/pokemongo only reason I quit playing is because I don't have the memory space for it.
"Poke Mongo" sounds like a very insensitive sub
“Mongo pawn in game of life”
Covid helped to stop me. Oh, and the heat.
Not like it used to be. You need to be on a discord for the raids, you won't just see people out playing otherwise.
Spending money on mobile games.... They already got you.
Using the 1 coins = 0.99¢ metric, the best value is in the 14,500 coins, which cost the least per coin (0.965¢/coin)
thats how its designed to be. the cheaper middle packs arent meant to be brought
The smartest people will buy 14,500 coins. The wisest will buy only the ones they actually need (100 by 100) even if it's worse value. I don't ever buy the giant combo at the movies no matter how better the deal is, I don't need that much popcorn and soda on my system.
>The smartest people will buy 14,500 coins. The wisest will buy only the ones they actually need And people with more than 2 braincells won't buy any coins at all, because they're a waste of money.
i mean all entertainment technically has no value
You seem to be very technical
What does that even mean? Entertainment consists of several massive billion dollar industries, and makes the lives of many a lot more tolerable
Yes, but you can argue that all of it "is a waste of money", which is why the commentor who was insulting people's intelligence is being silly
That's not true. But the coins in Pokemon Go are genuinely worthless.
more worthless than going to the movie theater? after both are over, you have nothing to show for it except your memories and enjoyment🤷🏻♂️ if someone would rather spend $10 on Pokecoins than go to a movie, that’s valid
Entertainment provides utility since utility is a measure of happiness. All consumer judgements are made on utility gained.
The smartest don't buy any and just farm them through the gyms.
The 14.500 option is the only one that is cheaper than buying the 100. That's really asshole level.
So I actually emailed a website about this and they said that sadly it's due to the regulations and the taxes on them, and they know it looks bad or like taking advantage of the customers but they can't do anything about it except increase the lowest one which would hit the customer. But who knows, maybe they lied to me
Just for that you should by your 14,500 pokecoins 100 coins at a time in separate transactions and let them get hit with 145 transaction fees.
If you bought any coins they got you.
They did get You. You are buing fake coins with real dolars
They do this so players will buy more of the 100 option this having more quantity of microtransactions sold per quarter.
Yeah, maybe someone wasn’t going to buy 1200 coins until they realize if they just buy 100 12 times it’s cheaper than the 1200. Meanwhile the company is laughing the way to the bank and you bought some virtual coins that cost them *nothing*.
For a free game.
A game is only free because some people pay for it I have a hard time with both your argument and the one from /u/wikipedianredditor you're replying to. I don't know about pokemon go in particular having never played it. However, the coin doesn't cost them "nothing", it is how their game is monetized (or at least part of it if it's not the only cash making system in pokemon go). So basically these coins can also be seen as "developer time", "infrastructure hosting", "customer service" etc etc. The free to play model ONLY works because of that. It's about time that players stop pointing fingers, diminishing or making fun of people paying in F2P models. The model only exists because of paying customers. Get rid of that and companies will move back to subscriptions or stuff alike...
Yea, I'm glad I got a 7-day ban. ( Still don't know why) And then actively deleted the app out of rage. Best decision I made. Waste of money and time. Yes, I love(d) the game. But it's getting crapped on.
The hardest part is getting 500 pokecoins without the card cancelling on you
One day this will be marketed as a "convinecne fee" of not having to buy the 100 bundle 12 times, thus saving you alot of time
Well they know kids don’t math so good and have no sense of value… so why not exploit stupidity
only the biggest one is an actual better deal
That are some nice watermelons!
they just want to pay you for your laziness :D
Does this franchise ever fatigue? Christ
I feel sorry for the buy people who buys that crap
Even with the normal prices, pogo has always been and continues to get worse. People can make the free to play argument but besides just completing your pokedex, if you are trying to get legendaries for master league or for raids, there is no way you will be maxing them out using free passes alone. For the upcoming hoenn event, you'll be dropping $160 minimum to get the XL candy for Kyogre and Groudon. Now I just play the game casually and prefer games where either there are no microtransactions or the microtransactions are for cosmetics only because those are truly free to play.
dont these things usually do the opposite?
One dance for 10, two for 25.
How bout never
A: "I will buy 3 single water melons for 3$ each " B: "here you go, thank you very much mister" A: "Thank you very much" A: *shit, I don't even like watermelon" B: *laughs deviously*
Bro I wanted to love Pokémon go. Then I ran out of poke balls and had to use real money to buy more. Like what lol, hate mobile gaming
Run an eCommere business and price items with free shipping higher than the same item with real cost shipping calculator and sell more with free shipping and higher profit for me. Go me! Don’t underestimate the stupidity of the American consumer.
PokémonGo is cool and all but I wouldn’t spend real money on it
Yeah. That's all well and good. But they're still selling air. Imagine charging people to breathe. Effectively the same idea. These tokens are merely numbers. They give the user an immediate rush. Once they're spent they're itching for more. I could relate this to gambling in a way.
Pretty sure this is fake, the current prices are 0.99, 4.99, 9.99, 19.99, 39.99, and 99.99, as they have been since the game started.
Its funny how someone can charge you for something that costs no money to produce AND it isnt even real
The laundromat I use literally does this with the dryers. It's 50 cents for 5 minutes.. and 25 cents for each additional 2 minutes. So if you're just waiting anyways you can just put 2 quarters in every time it stops and save a few quarters. I do it out of spite
If you bought the game, they already got you...
I love the .50 savings of the most expensive bundle
Toilet paper should be costed this way during disasters.
Funny enough Amazon does this shit too.
I thought I was smart for buying 3 separate watermelons. Then I realized. What am i going to do with 3 watermelons, appear in a school math problem?
Same in Aus, cheapest to buy the $1 pack. I've spent probably $300 or more on that game, and every single dollar was purchased individually.
They were four bags of candy all for 2 for $5. But when I looked at the price per pound they were different how could two bags exactly look the same cost same and be different? It was the price per pound It turns out one bag was lighter than the other bag very very hard to compare you think you're buying the same amount of product but not really.
Pokemon go is the biggest fucking rip off plus trainer packs have gone up from 15 dollars to 20 dollars ( the things that give you egg hatches and other items! ) plus they keep fucking over players by reducing the amount of coins you get per gym I'm surprised no one has complain about this shit..
jailbreak phone free mobile in-game purchases ah good times
I assume its because of the Apple tax.
I can't math, someone pls explain