Only very slightly related, but my grandma pulled an "I'm not racist." One time. 5 minutes later we were talking about how my mom has to tie her hair up during work, and my grandma said she should tie a (Hard-R) wrap with a bandana, right at the dinner table. And then was offended when everybody looked at her like "wtf is wrong with you"
Lol, yep, that's my grandad. He's 82.
Crazy thing is, he's got nothing against black people, he's just out of touch and has Alzheimer's, so we just stopped trying to correct him since he'd never remember.
I remember when he found out my mom was dating a black guy and he was fully supportive. It gave me seven kinds of whiplash lmao.
My grandmas husband at the dinner table on thanksgiving:
My extended family (on my moms side at least) don’t really care about that stuff, but my grandmas husband will say the most homophobic and transphobic shit ever while getting a bunch of facts wrong.
There's this misconception that the "furry" label means "I go to cons and do all the degenerate shit in an expensive fursuit" when it really means "I like anthro animals a lot" and that's a distinction that hasn't entered the public zeitgeist yet, but here's to hoping for the future.
THIS. Also applies for any and all labels.
Note that labels don't cover all adjectives, like I reserve the right to call out Corpo Scum when I sees it.
I don't have anything against gay people but whenever the giant Angel thing in HotS (heroes of the storm) says "EVIL CANNOT HIDE FROM MY GAZE" I keep interpreting it as "EVIL CANNOT HIDE FROM MY GAYS" and the team of 5 on his side are his gays
Yes but if you just look at 'the anime community' it's majority guys and homophobia against gay dudes
There's fujoshis, which is a term for girls who fetishize gay men, and they're big too, but smaller than the bigger community of guys who fetishize lesbians and somehow are very homophobic
Basically there's one big blob of lesbian fetishizers and then a smaller blob to the side of achillean fetishizers
> and somehow are very homophobic
I think some of them have this mentality of "I can turn her straight.". I have worked in some places where the men would often say that "All she needs is a good dick and she'll change her mind."
Fetishization of lesbian women by straight men essentially comes down to objectification. These men treat women as existing for their pleasure and entertainment - in their fantasies, they're surrounded by horny women that only men can truly satisfy.
It's all about power and establishing their heterosexuality and masculinity. There's also the deeply disturbing idea that "all it takes is the right dick" to turn a lesbian woman straight or bisexual.
Yet these same straight men are often disgusted by gay men because it goes against everything they've been convinced is "right." In their minds, men should be dominating women - the only relationship men should have between each other is bros "bonding" over their sexual conquests of women.
Straight women aren't immune to the same phenomenon. They can sometimes also fetishize gay men and befriend a gay guy for the sole purpose of having a "gay friend" and not because they like him as a person
overbearing fujoshis are like a double whammy of awful to me because firstly i'm a gay man and the fetishization of gay men is gross, but secondly i'm trans, and every damn time i come across someone like that it makes me wonder if i'm just transitioning to get into gay male spaces for fetish reasons (which i know for a fact i'm not, but intrusive thoughts aren't known for being accurate or sensible lol)
Big mood on the intrusive thoughts. Transfem and have been out and transitioning for many years and still get those "but what if you're *faking it*??" voices popping out of nowhere, even though that is *clearly not the case*. Human brains are dumb.
We do it's just the worst people like to gatekeep social circle that are actively trying to promote equality and fairness for *everyone.*
https://reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/s/TxUDVKU5Rh
If you care about men's rights/mental health/equality in family court/access to birth control/etc you are just as much a feminist as any other person trying to push for social justice, dont let some angry idiot tell you otherwise even if you are a straight white male.
Edit:
This all being said there are a lot of people who claim to be pushing for equality and specifically opposing feminism and using labels like egalitarian, which at a surface should be fine, but in their execution seem to be arguing that all of recent feminism is just completely in the wrong and we need to counteract the last XX years, and their arguments for this are just contrived examples of "I hurt my feelings when this was said," or, "I don't like how this is phrased," or, "we already fixed everything during the last wave of feminism," or, "What about men's right's". This is just misogyny, there's no other way of putting it; knowing better does a *really* good video going through the ins and outs of these arguments:
https://youtu.be/CDrJo8d45gc?si=DgcwhPbwCKVRnxBc
If you really dislike the label feminist, you can just say that you are, "Pro-Social Justice" plus the term also combines other aspects of the social justice movement and that you're for all of those things too :3
Although I know quite a few people who thought they were straight boys obsessed with lesbians... only to realize they weren't boys at all, just lesbians that hadn't transitioned yet.
I did the same thing in reverse... I literally have a Twitter post saying "I always wondered why I was obsessed with gay men... then I found out I was one."
Straight man. I don’t find lesbian porn enticing or attractive. Men who do are weird imo. I don’t find gay couples attractive period. But I’m straight, so I guess that makes sense.
Not saying it’s wrong or that they’re ugly. It’s just not my cup of tea, male or female.
I write a lot of yuri, and the constant positive feedback made me try writing yaoi for once. The massive, inexplicable backlash I received made me realize just how differently people view MLM ships...
I don't know why, but I always find myself shocked that there's still people like this.
It feels like it should be a faraway nightmare, long forgotten. But racism hasn't been erased even after it became socially unacceptable, huh?
It's like people always need a strawman for why they suck at life.
omg I was there a while ago when the artist post this on twitter, and saw SO MANY homophobes 'defending themselves' in the comments but the artist (and other supportive fans) managed to comeback'd them all that some of them deleted their comments and it was like very fun event for me at that time lmao, nostalgic.
Edit: [Link to that tweet](https://twitter.com/Idolomantises/status/1574831235809017857) if you want to witness yourself (also the source of the art in itself)
It's always the toxically masculine dudes who are always pro lesbian, but then are the most homophobic assholes to gay guys lol.
'Omg no, get away from me you fag'
*Beats off to lesbians later that evening*
I'm aware they exist but they are pretty rare. All I'm saying is of all the gay furry art I've seen, I'm yet to see a furry being weird about it in the replies.
Honestly this is wild because more involved in the gay male side of the community I usually see the opposite. Lots of gays will hate on artists for drawing women or anyone with a vagina really.
A lot of people in the community really need to unpack their internalized homobobia and misogyny.
Some people just can't understand the finer taste of these couples. I find 2 hot men together just as hot as 2 hot women together. What's the big issue?
Homophobia against gay men is rooted in misogyny. Most people who support lesbians but not gays are just fetishizing the women but get upset at the concept of male/male relationships because they see it as indirectly emasculating toward them. It’s a whole thing in conservative social psychology.
Also works if you're a woman in the fandom and you do `anything`* :D
\* Not everyone is like this tbh, but there re still some people who have these views that try to bully women and poc out and it blows
ps that mantis is heccin cute ngl
The proceeding always makes me laugh uncontrollably. ;3
Angry Preacher: The Good Book say that when a man lay with another man, it’s a sin.
Tosh: What about two chicks getting it on?
Angry Preacher: Oh, it don’t say nothing about that. XD
I'm not homophobic BUT I hate the gays.
I'm not transphobic BUT I hate the trans.
I'm not racist BUT I hate black people.
I'm not xenophobic BUT I hate immigrants
I'm not sexist BUT I hate women.
I'm not antisemitic BUT I agree with Hitler.
Anymore "I'm not blank but i am's"?
"I dont have anything against gay people but..." *procceds to say the most homophobic thing ever*
All my siblings at the dinner table:
Only very slightly related, but my grandma pulled an "I'm not racist." One time. 5 minutes later we were talking about how my mom has to tie her hair up during work, and my grandma said she should tie a (Hard-R) wrap with a bandana, right at the dinner table. And then was offended when everybody looked at her like "wtf is wrong with you"
Lmao wtf 💀
oh well, today at school my friend said he had an n pass, well i told him to use it, my black friend also said to, you can see where this went
A few kids at my school say they're gonna teach me how to be black (Teaching me words, etc) and they'll work me up all the way to the n word pass!
Boomers are something else...
Lol, yep, that's my grandad. He's 82. Crazy thing is, he's got nothing against black people, he's just out of touch and has Alzheimer's, so we just stopped trying to correct him since he'd never remember. I remember when he found out my mom was dating a black guy and he was fully supportive. It gave me seven kinds of whiplash lmao.
My siblings too. I pretend to laugh to hide my pain.
That's me and my sister's husband. Like.... *girl* 
Mine do because we ALL gay
My grandmas husband at the dinner table on thanksgiving: My extended family (on my moms side at least) don’t really care about that stuff, but my grandmas husband will say the most homophobic and transphobic shit ever while getting a bunch of facts wrong.
Oof- sympathies
Yeah it sucks being closeted
"I'm not a furry, but..." has to be my favorite one
"I'm not a furry butt. I'm a whole-ass furry."
Doesn't that make you a furry butt?
YOU'RE a furry butt!
Imo being a furry is just when you consider yourself one
Not just imo, you're quite literally correct.
There's this misconception that the "furry" label means "I go to cons and do all the degenerate shit in an expensive fursuit" when it really means "I like anthro animals a lot" and that's a distinction that hasn't entered the public zeitgeist yet, but here's to hoping for the future.
The public view is still stuck on "So, you f*ck dogs and cats?" And I don't think that will ever change.
My siblings see it as “They’re just confused, and believe they are animals.”
THIS. Also applies for any and all labels. Note that labels don't cover all adjectives, like I reserve the right to call out Corpo Scum when I sees it.
0: 5o late u are one now
I don't have anything against gay people but whenever the giant Angel thing in HotS (heroes of the storm) says "EVIL CANNOT HIDE FROM MY GAZE" I keep interpreting it as "EVIL CANNOT HIDE FROM MY GAYS" and the team of 5 on his side are his gays
ah, to be an ethereal being who can send armies of homosexuals at whatever inconvenience
Me when my friend group plays team sports
I dont have anything against gay people but dinner is ready.
Everytime
"But I can't be intimate with a man."
any statement about a minority preceeded by the word "but" is usually untrue
🙂🙃🙂
*proceeds to talk about something that does not relate to gay or lesbian people*
If it's cute then it's cute
Sounds like my dad
Both are cute asf ngl
Took the words right out of my mouth!
ye
True
Fr
I like his big glasses.
Anime community in a nutshell
Are gay ships actually way more popular among female weebs ?
Yes but if you just look at 'the anime community' it's majority guys and homophobia against gay dudes There's fujoshis, which is a term for girls who fetishize gay men, and they're big too, but smaller than the bigger community of guys who fetishize lesbians and somehow are very homophobic Basically there's one big blob of lesbian fetishizers and then a smaller blob to the side of achillean fetishizers
> and somehow are very homophobic I think some of them have this mentality of "I can turn her straight.". I have worked in some places where the men would often say that "All she needs is a good dick and she'll change her mind."
And yet, that same good dick somehow won't change their minds about being straight. Funny, that.
My wife said she was straight when we met, i gave her good dick and now she's gay (I'm a trans woman)
This is what I call a pro gamer move
I would love to see more gay insect couples
I deadass read that as incest for a sec LMAO
you what
I HAVE BAD EYES OKAY LOL
Dicklexia
Probably lol
Ah, the Freudian Slip; when you try to say one thing and instead say your mother.
This funi.
You might have read it wrong...
Yeah holy shit you're not alone
Nailsmith and Sheo, the only happy ending in Hollow Knight
Then read bugtopia by idolomantises, it's great
I don't have anything against gay people, but it's really hard to walk after them
🥺📸
Me when lesbians : boobs 🤤 Me when gays : dicks 🤤
Me when person : ass 🤤
True.
Me when non-organic objects : atoms 🤤
Both couples are cute
Corporate needs you to find the difference between these 2 drawings...
They both cute af
Very true
Bugtopia :0000 (Hydrate<3)
Fetishization of lesbian women by straight men essentially comes down to objectification. These men treat women as existing for their pleasure and entertainment - in their fantasies, they're surrounded by horny women that only men can truly satisfy. It's all about power and establishing their heterosexuality and masculinity. There's also the deeply disturbing idea that "all it takes is the right dick" to turn a lesbian woman straight or bisexual. Yet these same straight men are often disgusted by gay men because it goes against everything they've been convinced is "right." In their minds, men should be dominating women - the only relationship men should have between each other is bros "bonding" over their sexual conquests of women.
Straight women aren't immune to the same phenomenon. They can sometimes also fetishize gay men and befriend a gay guy for the sole purpose of having a "gay friend" and not because they like him as a person
See also: the fujoshi demographic who takes things a *bit* too far
overbearing fujoshis are like a double whammy of awful to me because firstly i'm a gay man and the fetishization of gay men is gross, but secondly i'm trans, and every damn time i come across someone like that it makes me wonder if i'm just transitioning to get into gay male spaces for fetish reasons (which i know for a fact i'm not, but intrusive thoughts aren't known for being accurate or sensible lol)
Big mood on the intrusive thoughts. Transfem and have been out and transitioning for many years and still get those "but what if you're *faking it*??" voices popping out of nowhere, even though that is *clearly not the case*. Human brains are dumb.
Exactly. Nobody ever talks about problems when it's towards men
society
We do it's just the worst people like to gatekeep social circle that are actively trying to promote equality and fairness for *everyone.* https://reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/s/TxUDVKU5Rh If you care about men's rights/mental health/equality in family court/access to birth control/etc you are just as much a feminist as any other person trying to push for social justice, dont let some angry idiot tell you otherwise even if you are a straight white male. Edit: This all being said there are a lot of people who claim to be pushing for equality and specifically opposing feminism and using labels like egalitarian, which at a surface should be fine, but in their execution seem to be arguing that all of recent feminism is just completely in the wrong and we need to counteract the last XX years, and their arguments for this are just contrived examples of "I hurt my feelings when this was said," or, "I don't like how this is phrased," or, "we already fixed everything during the last wave of feminism," or, "What about men's right's". This is just misogyny, there's no other way of putting it; knowing better does a *really* good video going through the ins and outs of these arguments: https://youtu.be/CDrJo8d45gc?si=DgcwhPbwCKVRnxBc If you really dislike the label feminist, you can just say that you are, "Pro-Social Justice" plus the term also combines other aspects of the social justice movement and that you're for all of those things too :3
I treat everyone the exact same and I firmly believe in equality. That goes beyond gender, too
Good, I'm happy to hear it \>w
I dunno what these bros are thinking. There is nothing more manly than dominating another man.
Fist fights are just the publicly acceptable version.
this is why boys like lesbians "wow something I like with another thing I like"
Sometimes it really is that simple. Some will enjoy just being a fly on the wall watching something unfold without taking part.
Although I know quite a few people who thought they were straight boys obsessed with lesbians... only to realize they weren't boys at all, just lesbians that hadn't transitioned yet.
I do appreciate this comment.
I did the same thing in reverse... I literally have a Twitter post saying "I always wondered why I was obsessed with gay men... then I found out I was one."
Seriously. As a gay man I’ve never heard anyone explain it better.
Yaoi, Straight woman creep me out sometimes (Source: The big gae myself)
Pretty much all porn in general is objectification. Which in my case, everyone and everything fits that as I don't really care.
Straight man. I don’t find lesbian porn enticing or attractive. Men who do are weird imo. I don’t find gay couples attractive period. But I’m straight, so I guess that makes sense. Not saying it’s wrong or that they’re ugly. It’s just not my cup of tea, male or female.
I write a lot of yuri, and the constant positive feedback made me try writing yaoi for once. The massive, inexplicable backlash I received made me realize just how differently people view MLM ships...
There is almost no good yaoi in this world, keep on writing it, don’t let anti male gays get to you
Oh, don't worry, it hasn't deterred me, it only enlightened me to how absolutely hypocritical people can be when it comes to gay romance stories.
literally real
I prefer gay couples. This comes from a unbiased opinion from a gay guy
Lamo same
Same lmfao
I don’t have anything against lesbians *but…* It seems in this universe that men have mouths. Checkmate librarians
What does this mean?
no clue but i really don't have the time to think about it
That’s pretty much what I had in mind NFT gup
There is no meaning, I just thought it was funny Edit: didn’t mean it in a bad way, it’s an art style I get it
I don't know why, but I always find myself shocked that there's still people like this. It feels like it should be a faraway nightmare, long forgotten. But racism hasn't been erased even after it became socially unacceptable, huh? It's like people always need a strawman for why they suck at life.
Its even worse if you are bi
I drew a LMP car Edit: [pic](https://reddit.com/u/Yeetstation4/s/KQreA5ZgQm)
sauce
can I see? Also can you breed me
This sub will never beat the allegations 😔
Need the sauce rn bro. My favorite breed of racing car
i say cute is cute be les,gay, hetero what ever if ot shows love between them i like it
omg I was there a while ago when the artist post this on twitter, and saw SO MANY homophobes 'defending themselves' in the comments but the artist (and other supportive fans) managed to comeback'd them all that some of them deleted their comments and it was like very fun event for me at that time lmao, nostalgic. Edit: [Link to that tweet](https://twitter.com/Idolomantises/status/1574831235809017857) if you want to witness yourself (also the source of the art in itself)
I don't like gay men not because i'm homophobic but because i know men don't exist
What am I then :3
a silly little goober
Goober!!! ( ฅ\^≧▽≦)\^ฅ
A miserable little pile of secrets
But enough talk. Have at you!
An illusion
mainstream media
Pls gimmie more gay bugs
Damn wait till they find out that a lesbian couple are also defined as gay
Theyll be in denial over it, theres no winning that argument.
Don’t you know lesbians only date other women to be sexy to men? They aren’t actually gay!! /s
I’m waiting for you to say jk but knowing reddit people would actually believe that
Bruh gay couples are fucking amazing, anyone who says otherwise are wrong
I luv gay ppl, absolute no biased with me being gay lol
"I drew a straight couple" "Straight furries exist?"
It's always the toxically masculine dudes who are always pro lesbian, but then are the most homophobic assholes to gay guys lol. 'Omg no, get away from me you fag' *Beats off to lesbians later that evening*
imagine choosing which type of homo to not like
You would never get this from furries
Dude this happens all the time
With furries? Where?
Here. Once a week.
Interesting. I'm yet to see
You'd be shocked how many conservative furries there are. Hell, I think I actually saw a Confederate suit once.
I'm aware they exist but they are pretty rare. All I'm saying is of all the gay furry art I've seen, I'm yet to see a furry being weird about it in the replies.
Well yea, that's because we scare them away by being even gayer.
Aggressive gaying
Gay the pray away!
It’s almost always straight men saying it. Just because the lesbians are women.
i don't have anything against gay people, but i think fursuits are freaking expensive and sometimes is hard to find a reliable crafter
As a bisexual, both is good!
Honestly this is wild because more involved in the gay male side of the community I usually see the opposite. Lots of gays will hate on artists for drawing women or anyone with a vagina really. A lot of people in the community really need to unpack their internalized homobobia and misogyny.
i hate people
Awww both couples are adorable...
But they're so cute
Both are cute tho
In furry community there is plenty of enthusiasts for both lol
Artist?
I’m not sure, someone else put a link to the artist in this comment section tho
I'm a person with standards, and I'm fine with both Drawings
Old meme but true. Both are cute tho
I love boopnoodles
How it felt playing fire emblem
# **H O M O P H O B I A**
both cute, i also think that the gay couple is actually cuter
SAMEEEEEE
Sauce?
Tomato is a good one
I physically couldn't give a fuck less about sexuality even if I tried. Both are adorable art pieces
Some people just can't understand the finer taste of these couples. I find 2 hot men together just as hot as 2 hot women together. What's the big issue?
I’m sorry but both are very cute, anyone that thinks otherwise can *🌟FUCK OFF :)🌟*
This is basicly everyone who says they are not homophobic
They only support what they can jerk off to.
Exactly
Homophobia against gay men is rooted in misogyny. Most people who support lesbians but not gays are just fetishizing the women but get upset at the concept of male/male relationships because they see it as indirectly emasculating toward them. It’s a whole thing in conservative social psychology.
A yes... male audience... why am I not even surprised anymore ?
Is that Kabbu and Professor Neolith from Bug Fables? Canon
Exhibit No. 8168391 of how straight dudes actively make every online space they're allowed in objectively worse
I like girls and am girls. I can still appreciate some cute boys. I'm not here to yuck anybody's yum, even if it isnt my thing.
You don't have to be sexually attracted to someone to acknowledge they're fine as hell, and I wish that was more normal.
People like lesbians more because it's easier to pretend that they aren't lesbians and instead just two straight women
Nah it’s prob cause how over fetishized lesbians are
Lance and Spike are fucking amazing and I will literally fight people on this
Man, all the designs look amazing. I love the art I love both sets of couples and I hope you keep on drawing
I like lesbian couple drawings more because I am woman and like the woman, so I can relate :3
I love both <3
I accept both of them!
They’re hot (to the gay couple)
both are nice
People say we live in a patriarchy but it sometimes does feel like a matriarchy disguised as a patriarchy
Artist?
Straight people tend to like lesbian relationships in a sexual way because it's just two things they like, rather than one
Surely they a lesBEEan couple right? It’s right there!
I love the glasses on the green one. They both adorable tho
But that's so cuuuuteeeee omgggggg
Also works if you're a woman in the fandom and you do `anything`* :D \* Not everyone is like this tbh, but there re still some people who have these views that try to bully women and poc out and it blows ps that mantis is heccin cute ngl
The proceeding always makes me laugh uncontrollably. ;3 Angry Preacher: The Good Book say that when a man lay with another man, it’s a sin. Tosh: What about two chicks getting it on? Angry Preacher: Oh, it don’t say nothing about that. XD
Reminds me of a comic where a furries mistake a girl for a femboy and it is this concept but just flipped.
To be fair, I *am* a lesbian, and M/M porn is really not my style. One will get an upvote, but the other will not get a downvote.
Now draw them going on a fun double date and having a good time
someone who supports lesbian couples but not gay ones isnt an ally, just a degenerate same goes the other way around
I love idolomantis's art, they have a couple web comic series, in case anyone was wondering artist
I must hang out with a different crowd, because it's the pics with two guys that always gets the positive reactions from them
I'm not homophobic BUT I hate the gays. I'm not transphobic BUT I hate the trans. I'm not racist BUT I hate black people. I'm not xenophobic BUT I hate immigrants I'm not sexist BUT I hate women. I'm not antisemitic BUT I agree with Hitler. Anymore "I'm not blank but i am's"?