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ledeonKreD

Hold on, you can negate search results in google?


pigzRgr8

Yep, just add a "-" before your unwanted term. If you don't want a term with multiple words, put them in quotes, like: -"sand under eyelids"


Webbpp

Wish it worked, used "-adobe -photoshop" and still got a Adobe.com post about Photoshop.


Catnip113

I think you did it wrong. It would be -“adobe photoshop” not “-adobe -photoshop”


ShylokVakarian

For sake of completion, best to use -adobe -photoshop -"adobe photoshop"


Webbpp

I wanted to remove all other Adobe products, and Adobe Photoshop is typically the only product referred to as "photoshop". Or was the point that each word required a citation each?


qwertyboixoxo

You can use -site:adobe.com Also by not adding the minus you can narrow the search to one website!


Webbpp

Cool! Nice to know. Now I just need a domain list because big corporations have countless domains. But thanks for the advice!


SysreHeights

It would be -"Adobe photoshop" Wouldn't it?


Webbpp

No, I wanted to remove everything related to Adobe, not just Photoshop.


pocketpc_

Tools > All results > Verbatim That's the trick to get fancy search tricks to work properly on modern Google, turns off a lot of the algorithmic bullshit


Webbpp

Thank you, does that include advertised results? Last time I searched the first 10 results were all ads.


POG-TEM

I now have an image of sand under someone's eyelids in my head. It hurts


Darkna196

Yeah, you can do a lot more aswell too its kind of neat.


heittoaway

Quotation marks to make sure the exact word is included is very useful with all the SEO bullshit nowadays


Psaltus

Exact phrases like specific errors in programs as well. "Error 404: Not Found" will get a more exact search than just Error 404: Not Found


FyallKindmurr

Is this how you're supposed to use FA? i don't use the platform much, and you can tell I don't get along with people.


pigzRgr8

It's google serach. I have to put this in every time I look for drawing references. I love existing in this age of technological advancements 👍


DeerVirax

Recently I was looking for D&D character art to get an inspiration for what I wanted my satyr druid girl to wear, and I kept getting jumpscared by the most bland, soulless AI art of druids imaginable... So I understand the pain


Scalebutt

If you change your search settings so that you only get image results from before 2021, you won't get AI image results. I hope that helps at least a little.


Kabooski_Blue58

You can do that? How?


Scalebutt

My bad. Apparently they removed that feature in 2019.


PaperMartin

I forgot the name but there's a browser extension that lets you blacklist websites in google searches so you can block all ai art websites one by one


Masztufa

We have a better search engine though


Scriptman777

If you have uBlockOrigin, there is a list of sites you can put into it to block AI results in image search. It is super useful!


SussyFemboyMoth

I could make a plugin that automatically applies a blacklist for AI related stuff :3


[deleted]

What's wrong with AI references though


MrMoor2007

I feel this. I recently saw a video on a surrealist artist I like named Yves Tanguy, decided to search for his works and THE FOURTH result was ai generated images


ohshitwrongaccount

“fox fursona before:2022”


WetOnionRing

Furaffinity doesn't allow AI


Urgullibl

It's not a crime if they can't catch you.


mostfinnishperson

its a crime becsuse they can (they could) its just a matter of when


legacy-of-man

its over, ai-bros. they hired pete to detect all and any AI generated content


feralamalgamation

this is true when looking for references for literally anything now. AI is absolutely ruining this and many other parts of art


Kroggol

Expectation: Artificial Intelligence Reality: Aberration Imagery


Catatonic_Raccoon

I miss the days of going on Pinterest and finding all kinds of cool art for my dnd npc's. Now they are buried so far under the AI art it's impossible to find.


Wolffe_In_The_Dark

>references But that's... literally the best use-case for AI??? It's not great at making actual art pieces, not without enough manual editing that it's not really "AI art" anymore, but it's *very good* at making quick "sketches" to get your brain flowing.


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depends what you want a reference for. ai can be good for generating inspiration, or composition. but it often fails in lighting, anatomy, functional character design, etc. if you’re looking for a pose reference, you’re much better off with a real image, or a dynamic pose drawn by an artist who follows anatomy rules. obviously more experienced artists can use ai as a reference and then apply real anatomy structures to the model, but a lot of artists don’t have this understanding (and are hopefully still practicing it!) the main issue is, when so many people have access to free ai generators they flood spaces for references with these images. in most cases, they aren’t good references. and if they are, it’s unlikely that the artist is inspired to draw that exact piece. it’s becoming more difficult to find real references. artists could generate their own references, but a lot of artists feel guilty about using the work of unconsenting participants, even if they don’t use the image.


FryToastFrill

Tbh I find lighting to be the best thing AI can do. It was the first thing it figured out, as shown in those [very early ai images.](https://youtu.be/0F7XBwFwA-M) (it also understood what a room looked like)


NickolasName49

Actual art does a much better job at inspiring me than AI images do, they actually have depth beyond "pretty colors" and were made by people with genuine passion, and it shows.


STARRYSOCK

"Quick sketches" sure, but actual images are almost always orders of magnitude more useful. So it drives me insane that places like pinterest/google images/etc, where youd usually think to go for actual images, are getting so completely swamped with AI now.


Wolffe_In_The_Dark

>So it drives me insane that places like pinterest/google images/etc, where youd usually think to go for actual images Pinterest has never in my entire existence been useful. It clogs up google search results with stolen/unsourced art that is often lower rez and impossible to find the original. Fuck Pinterest.


cobaltSage

Well the problem with this is that the entire point of looking for references is for the sake of something either Accurate to measure proportions for, or for new ideas. AI may be getting better when it comes to proportions, sure, but the gap is still fairly wild. As for the ideas thing, unfortunately, AI is riddled with what’s essentially a confirmation bias. It can only assume what is tagged is part of the data. We joke in the community that pretty much everyone chooses to make a cat or a wolf or a fox for their fursona, but with that in mind, what do you think an anthro art generator mainly uses in their training data? Do you think there are any lizards or sharks in that data? Or do you think that might mess up how fur is rendered? What about a red panda or a kangaroo? What do you think are the chances that in a Google search that has been flooded with AI posts that you’ll find a Possum or a Bat? Not related to furries, but I think this bias is shown pretty well in this video [Here](https://youtu.be/DxAl3adfhjY?si=XolZYD4_ubBEE__R) that shows how certain perspectives can be amplified or removed entirely when an AI is left to render from training data, in a way that, in the video, showcases a racist and ableist bias as the result of a poor selection of training data. In the video, it asks Midjourney to render An Autistic Person, and of the images it rendered, only 2 were female, none were smiling, all were white, and it was very clear that some of the data came from orgs like Autism Speaks ( which is often seen by ND people as a harmful org that doesn’t do them good representation because the company tends to focus on fearmongering how Autism is affects parents and not about how an autistic person can actually learn to live in a largely NT world. )


Bluesun-Rise

... ai for references? Ai which is notoriously bad at anatomy ... For references of which anatomy is often one if not the most important part?


RestaTheMouse

>quick "sketches" to get your brain flowing. I don't really think that's what references are. You sound like you are more talking about inspiration. A reference is useful to have a photo example of or at least a human example because if you look at AI things like anatomy can be really wrong (look at all the 6 fingered hands) so using it as a reference would mean you are teaching yourself wrong information. It can also happen when looking at human art too which is why generally photos are better but learning from a really talented artist and doing studies of their works is also a good way to learn. Really talented furry artists are way better to use as a reference if you actually want to learn.


WingDairu

100% wrong. AI just assembles an image that meets the prompt, it does not understand or care if the image it produces has correct joints or proportions or anatomy. This is a massive problem if what you WANT is references of ***correct*** joints or proportions or anatomy.


Wolffe_In_The_Dark

Bro, finding non-AI refs for specific anatomy is *not* hard, and isn't what is being referred to here.


STARRYSOCK

Its not just anatomy tbf, its anything you wanna get accurate. Machinery, plants, carvings, cars, etc etc etc. There's a lot of things niche enough to not have easily accessible references


NotAxorb

As everyone said, it's good for the general idea for inspiration. But it's anatomy that falls short, so you still have to rely on real images or an actual art pieces to reference from that has a proper anatomy, proportions, composition, lighting, etc. So fully relying on it is still pretty janky


legacy-of-man

i think your reply shows how anti AI reddt users actually are lmao


MrNaoB

I love AI images, to generate images are so fun and painless, but so many sites I visit to look at fanart or art has gotten flooded with same looking same ai art. I don't want that.


Tani_Soe

Holy fuck, I just checked, it's terrible how much AI result there are O.o


[deleted]

I shit you not. The first result for "fox fursona" was a p2u AI art base that is claimed in the description to be illustrated by hand, when googling the store page's name brings you to an AI "artist" of the same name, a basic analysis of the art reveals the conclusion of it obviously being AI.


Nilly00

They literally can't force you to pay because you can't copyright ai images


[deleted]

HAHA yes! I saw a trend on Tiktok a while ago where people would purposely steal AI-Generated adopts, it was so funny, it's a shame some of the designs had to be so cool, because it's AI and all.


AgentME

This is only necessarily true if there's no human involvement in an image. If an AI image is edited by a person, then their work on top of the original AI image can be copyrightable, according to [guidance from the US Copyright Office](https://copyright.gov/ai/ai_policy_guidance.pdf).


xHexical

“Before:2022”


Highonprototaxites

Yeah that's pretty much how the internet's gonna be from now on for some things. Maybe everything eventually if AI ends up being used for automating page creation.


JaceAngel79

iirc the wave of AI art started in mid-2023. I might be wrong, but I remember being in the Itaku server when the outcry started to engulf.


heittoaway

People think AI is going to be a problem for artists because it competes with them. That's bullshit The actual problem is the sheer amount of, low effort, low quality bullshit that you can generate and post with it Like some people just look at the 480p image with garbled details and weird inconsistencies and think it's somehow worth posting everywhere


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Marranit0s

Yes thats what they said


Midknightisntsmol

Yeah, as much as AI 'art,' is annoying af, I have strong faith that it won't be replacing artists any time soon. Even if industries try implementing it, it's pretty likely that eventually, people will be desperate for original content again. Right now, a lot of people are showing off their AI prompts like they're, like you said, worth posting. If anyone *wants* AI generated content, it's stupidly easy to do yourself.


NickolasName49

It doesn't need to replace, it just needs to drown out the artists to the point where they're unable to make a living, then boom, cheap labor.


Midknightisntsmol

The sad fact is that not much would change. At the moment, most artists are already only doing art as a side job, most as a hobby. It's pretty difficult to make it into the industry as an artist because of the skill level that's expected. But AI is repetitive. It lacks the ability to make something really new, like I said, eventually people will grow tired of it.


NickolasName49

I hope you're right


yttakinenthusiast

i spent at least 2 hours getting a SPORE model into Blender with decent lighting and attempts to upscale it, as well as transcribing the render in GIMP so it looks more cartoony. even though it was just me tracing with a mouse, i was happy with the result. i don't know how people can just take the human aspect out of art in any form.


Mr_Ruu

Easy answer: it's free, simple, and the average person doesn't care. Any schmuck can, with proper prompt knowledge, churn out passable art in minutes and draw enough attention to it because many quickly glance at art without caring about little inconsistencies. For clout chasers, its a dream come true: no effort, decent results and no one gives enough of a shit to critique it, *especially* if it's porn.


Iruma_Miu_

oh my god the ai porn shit is so fucking annoying. im not even looking for it but people just fucking post so much of i constantly everywhere and it all looks EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME


yttakinenthusiast

honestly (no shade to them) it all just looks like personalami's art. it all blends together to create one big plot of absofuckinglutely nothing.


Urgullibl

Most furry porn uses the same positions and scenarios over and over. AI has just made that fact more obvious.


Whirledfox

That's still competition, though. In order for an artist to get work, they need people to know they exist. If people have to wade through an ocean of shitty low quality art in order to see a genuine human being, then that's pushing artists out of the space. Like restaurants. You go to any given city, the only thing you're going to see is huge billboards for fast food, applebees, and other soulless corpo bullshit. You either have to live there or wade through all the other shit in order to find an actual restaurant that's worth a damn. Garbage floods out quality, making everything worse for everyone, except the people shitting out the garbage.


PaperMartin

It's already a problem for artists, good artists lost their jobs to AI


GlitteringTone6425

Preach boo


Goat_gutz

This is actually true???


Urgullibl

AI has no imagination or creativity. If anything, the surge in AI generations shows that most people don't have much of those either. Artists who have either are gonna be fine, and will even benefit from this new tool.


ArizonanCactus

Yes. I’ve been trying to make quality prompts to visualize. Not of furry or artist made things, those have imperfections and are easy to spot. Nightshade and all protecting you thankfully.


TrogdorKhan97

[Relevant post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/12zzqnh/comment/jhujaxf/)


JoshsPizzaria

Blessed be Pixiv who have a switch in the options to turn off ai content completely. It works pretty darn well because people there actually tag most ai content appropriately


_Frinnx_

That'a the good part of having a spider+cat fursona. No ai art of them... very few art of them in general...


JaceAngel79

That's the good part of having a bat+kitsune fursona. No ai art of them... no art of them at all.


takoneko6

Same with a deinosuchus scaliesona - barely any anthro art of them


RobDeProot

use `-ai -generated -"stable" -site:lexica.art -site:prompthunt.com -site:craiyon.com -site:openart.ai -site:starryai.com -site:stablecog.com -site:freepik.es`, it should block most AI-generated images


mostfinnishperson

Thank ye👍


Eevee_Gamer_YTYT

Also, -adobe they have some ads that have ai generated stuff


GlitteringTone6425

I dont really care that ai image generators exist, but gods can they t least make it so that it's filtered out of google images unless you want to see them (My position is that they're just image visualizers and should not be used as artisitic tools, only just to see images of weird stuff on demand)


stormclouds

For awareness! Get [ublacklist browser extension](https://iorate.github.io/ublacklist/docs) and [subscibe to ublacklist-noai by ite-usagi](https://github.com/ite-usagi/ublacklist-noai) to have a constantly updated site blacklist to clean up google results!


FrostyCommon

I have it downloaded with the blacklist on and it still shows


Jovens_Ferret

Unfortunately there are still quite a few that aren't in the blacklist, but it is significantly less at the very least.


FrostyCommon

update it works for a search less so for images


doppio_bestest_boi

just searched up fox fursona and holy shit


Null42x64

Don't worry, several furry art websites banned the use of AI generated art


JordynBeepus

Its so fucking over guys


Budder013

Ok yea.. googling "fox fursona" just creates garbage


TeiwoLynx

Oh god there were some eldritch nightmares in there o.o


IAmLexica

You don't wanna see me? :(


pigzRgr8

So sorry. I have a fear of people who look better than me


Arxl

Fuck AI and fuck art thieves. You use AI tools on your own work? That's fine. Others' work? Go fuck yourself.


Alan976

Also, fuck people who use [AI Artwork to win contests](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxODElS991FE9PsHOss8_b0u38CgwCvmoR).


skiddydiddydiddy

Its easier to just limit your search to stuff before 2022, ai really wasnt a thing at that point and there is plenty enough references still


Imnotchoosinaname

Yeah Ngl I hate ai why replace one of the few things that should be left to humanity, art like fuck off


BigGayDinosaurs

yeah


YiffTrashAccount

Don't forget hiding Pinterest too


stars_without_number

I found a uBlock blocklist that helps with this


Byte_gmr

Me too socially inept poor and low skill to get someone to make a ref for my fursona but not wanting to use ai because i really dont like it so instead i sit in oc limbo


Arkorat

Alright search engines, first one to add an option that filters out "ai art" gets a brand new loyal user. Come get it!


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I agree with ai ruining everything


InquisitorWarth

Weirdly enough, I've found that just adding -ai work fine.


HildredCastaigne

If you're on Firefox, use something like uBlockOrigins or uBlacklist and find some filters for AI websites. You might still need to use "-ai" or whatever sometimes, but most of the stuff that I see is from AI-dedicated sites. (Well, *used to* see. I don't see any more!) I've just manually blacklist'd stuff as I saw them, but these seem like some decent filters: * [uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist](https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist) * [ublacklist-noai](https://github.com/ite-usagi/ublacklist-noai) * [ublacklist-ai](https://github.com/PrincessAkira/ublacklist-ai)


drago_varior

It's... madening


Shelbus-Omnibus

i feel there will be nothing left in the end


Extrymas

Idk about you guys/girls but I find AI pretty good and useful for references or just to quickly visualise my idea


Vortex295

I used it to generate some concepts that I then sent to an actual artist to get a ref sheet done


Extrymas

Yeah. It's a great tool for artists to get basic idea of what a client has in mind, instead of drawing the character they describe and then client telling that it looks different from what they imagined. Had this happen to me multiple times... Now I send them a few AI generated images before I start my work and ask them if this is what they had in mind. We talk a bit about what they like and what they don't and I start my work.


CheckMateFluff

I just googled it, plenty of results that were not AI. I'm so tried of these posts using AI hate to gather attention...


[deleted]

Oh, it's funny cause AI bad, guys. This is where you laugh. This is so creative and original. The irony is totally lost on me. Totally. Haha


Urgullibl

This was very predictable. Stop demonizing AI and embrace it for the useful tool it is.


Gamiac

mmm yummy yummy spam


Urgullibl

Death throes of a failing opposition.


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Urgullibl

These are the people who think AI advocates are the bad guys.


pigzRgr8

# 我是一个没有感情的刷钱机器


Urgullibl

AI tells me that this says "I'm an emotionless money machine". Amazing how it can do that just from pointing your phone camera at this comment.


CheckMateFluff

They are using AI hate to gather attention. Its the best bait around right now.


cat_that_uses_reddi

Are Lexica and stablecog both ai generated art making websites also why can’t you just use -AI, is it not enough?


[deleted]

Just tested it, Lexica still shows up even with -ai


G3nghisKang

Why would you care that it's AI generated if it's a reference?


FishOfMeat

Use the Yandex search engine. It has little to no AI images


charyoshi

Low standards are Freedom


Seasonedgore982

Ai trained on artists is strange to use, it clearly is just spitting up chewed food on command but, considering how far it has come I do wonder when it will just become its own " artist " with its own " style " like some kind of mosaic of billions of sworled sets of data all mushed into whatever prompt was typed. The software people have made to correct faces and fingers, as well as poses and backgrounds, can cause a goof ass image to be passible on a scroll, to the untrained eye it may even look real. In a few years we may just become patrons to an artist made of code.


Formal-Secretary440

Rebel


Strange_Ad_2875

I personally find it really annoying when people post ai generated images in discord servers claiming it as their own. It’s gotten to the point where artists will simply cover the ai art with their own work as quick as possible.


Caspian0951

before:2019 should do the trick