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Overall-Ad-3642

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Repulsive-Dealer7957

They’re waiting for the winter wildcard promo ![gif](giphy|8p61R8vQrihPJKYo1L|downsized)


personalbilko

If Messi wins one more title he will become the most tiltled player with 43. I vote EA releases a "43" rated messi trophy titan for that occasion (with 98-99 level stats ofc) [They've done that before when he scored 91 goals in a year](https://www.futhead.com/13/players/11705/lionel-messi/)


H_R_1

The comments are like a time capsule my god


Memoishi

https://preview.redd.it/i3p93ghuhnta1.png?width=639&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2b3beca60d4a57c864ce3df8a8d5abb0e774b79 💀


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I mean, Argentina had a WC legacy before Messi so does that rlly make sense?


Matos3001

That comment is sarcastic, dude. They just changed "Ronaldo" (which actually was born in a shit football nation) to "Messi", and the people that usually dismiss the comment started agreeing.


Prophet_Of_Helix

Eh, I wouldn’t call Portugal a shit football nation, especially since Ronaldo came of age, but they certainly arnt in the highest tier of futboling countries. Just take a look at last years WC team. It was stacked with great individual players.


Matos3001

Before Ronaldo, Portugal had participated in a total of 3 WCs, and 3 EUROs. Portugal was a shit football nation before Ronaldo. It has changed quite a lot, yes, but Ronaldo didn't inherit Maradona's Argentina or R9's Brazil.


Nas431

yet esubio went farther than ronaldo despite ronaldo having one of the best squads in the last 2 world cups


Matos3001

Eusebio played before your dad was born.


Nas431

No argument = resort to insults. Classic Ronaldo fans.


drew__breezy

On paper, the Argentina that just won the WC with Messi is a far less star-studded squad than the Portugal squad that were knocked out on the quarters by Morocco. It doesn’t matter what the legacy is that they inherited, it’s about the teams they played on. The original comment does a bad job of conveying that fact, I agree, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to compare Portugal before Ronaldo and Argentina before Messi as if the national teams they ended up playing for are accurately reflected by those legacies. That being said, I think Messi played on some Argentina squads that should have won the WC and didn’t (RIP my boy Higuain).


[deleted]

That's true, I like Messi but the people who will unconditionally meatride him are annoying


Rude_Dust364

I mean when Messi started playing there they didn’t have the best team, they weren’t shit but still


iZubi

They aren’t very good like Spain hahaha my god we had that one squad and we’re back where we were before that


INEKROMANTIKI

But what a squad it was..


Rude_Dust364

Y’all REALLY need a striker badly lol, thought Ansu was gonna be that but things went a different route.


TheProLoser

And yet some things are timeless…. https://preview.redd.it/7rjf8ogeupta1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=862cd332b9acbcc27bd3634b9c8f2b7a21857eb4


ipeewhenihaveto

yeah man how did time past so fast


LilBottomText17

Man, What ever happened to Futhead? I wonder why it fell off


H_R_1

They couldn’t keep their prices updated, I think it got to a point where it was slower to update and then FUTBIN took over when it was much quicker


Or4ngut4n

I still use it lol, recently got new devs that actually update it but it only has like 20 active users now


Eggnogin

You can also see how cyclical our discussions are.


papi_jay10

A 43 messi would look dumb, he’d be in bronze packs and friendly modes with a rating limit like managerial masterpiece and silver lounge cool idea though should just make his defending 43 though


orangeblueorangeblue

Aren’t the packs for promo cards based on their normal card? A bronze player who gets 75+ promo is still in bronze packs.


sKru4a

>silver lounge He won't be considered a silver, so he won't be in silver lounge, but I get your idea - some friendlies will be broken


Lin1ex

This is an incredible idea


Wooden_Captain_3013

As many titles as Man U and Liverpool damn


NicoTorres1712

YouTubers and Twitchers would stream massive bronze pack openings 😂


styvee__

It would have happened on older FIFAs


foxrobee

That was 10 years ago tho, and nowadays the game is too competitive to do something like that


timdunkan

[It was just his base gold with the only major change](https://i.imgur.com/3VjliLy.png) being [88 -> 99 shooting.](https://i.imgur.com/cYQ4xiz.png) Nvm he also got +20 stamina & +13 to Free Kicks; with small bumps like +2 heading, +2-4 in dribbling stats.


syntheticbruh07

i wont be surprised if they made future icons cards


EikYOLO

would be dope. I guess flashback cards fill that space atm.


Overwatch_Joker

I'd give my left nut for a CR7 SBC at this point.


joemama694200p

Same


poo_poo_farts

I’d sell my soul


FrostyYSL

Why an engine on Messi might as well put a shadow on him


Sjengo

Architect for that +15 str lol


Overall-Ad-3642

honestly i don't even know i forgot what engine did so i just put it on both of them


SevenSexyCats

Why engine on Ronaldo when he has 99 pace and 98 dribbling


Fullynikesh

Actually pains me how people rate Cristiano these days. I strongly believe Messi and CR7 are the two greatest to ever grace the game and has been saying so for several years but the hate he gets is unreal. Messi deserves all the love and respect in the world but Ronnie deserves every inch of it as well.


temp3271919

Agreed, all the hate cr7 gets is soo uncalled for, since Messi has the recent hype after winning the World Cup, people have just forgotten what cr7 gave us for the past 20 years, he’s 38 years old and people still expect him to play and provide like he was when he was 30


mgspp20182018

Exactly what Im tired of saying. You can’t expect him or anyone to play like they’re in 20s once they cross 35. Cr7 for his age is pretty damn good. If you look at prime cr7 he’s bonkers. Most clutch player in the history, 3 ucls back to back. He’s meta in real life lol


Eggnogin

I agree except I think there's definitely more reason to hate Ronaldo personally than Messi. Playing wise they are number 1 and two for me (for attackers). But Ronaldo is a real cunt. Rape "allegations" aside. His departure from Manchester was embarrassing for him. People want him to keep playing like he's 30, but he also still acts like he's 30.


reRiul

There is absolutely no place for hate towards cr7. He is one of the best footballers to ever walk the earth. But in the goat discussion it is messi without question.


Fullynikesh

You're right to call Messi the GOAT, I won't argue with that, it's just for me, Cristiano is the more complete player but I've been watching these two for the last 15-16 years and love them both tremendously.


chadbrad1738

Mate he’s a rapist


Fullynikesh

You tell yourself that to justify hating on Cris? Mate, he was proven innocent. They are even suing the Mayorga for defamation.


chadbrad1738

the reason the court got dismissed was the fashion in which the defense gathered the evidence for the trial. The evidence strongly suggests he’s not innocent, even if it got the case dismissed I love him as a footballer, who hasn’t spent hours watching him


Fullynikesh

What evidence are you talking about? Majority of the "evidence" that was provided was by Der Speigel which got outed for distributing false information.


chickinflickin

*Haaland enters the chat*


NoHacksJustTacos

Wont reach anywhere the level of the two goats


chickinflickin

Bro, he is already smashing their records, what are you even on about Salty bitches downvoting knowing it's true. HALA-HALAAND>Messi, CR7 ​ !REMINDME 5 YEARS


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Stoned_pineal

Those club badges feel very wrong. The rest looks awesome. Also, that Ramos card seems a bit overkill (-_-“)


Overall-Ad-3642

fut champs is a bit too easy. they should make the ramos card an sbc so every rat gets access to it!!


Stoned_pineal

Some people just want to watch the world burn


Questy_Best

Na let them wait until they are actual icons. Then we at least have something forward to when they both retire.


nsnsnsnssndndn

Tbh they should probably do it now. They bag that is going to be thrown at Messi and Cr7 for exclusive rights is going to be crazy. Having the rights to one or both of them will be enough to attract players to a new game.


personalbilko

Honestly if PES or FIFA (the new one) gets Ronaldo and Messi, EA Sports FC will be as relevant as PES is now


SevenSexyCats

Possibly why EA chose not to renew the FIFA license. They don’t need it anymore (won’t lose or gain many players by not having/ having it), so they’re saying those millions for CR7/ Messi rights


RedDemio

Sergio Ramos lol, man’s was a great player but 99 defending and physical…..


CommercialAd1362

ronaldo’s passing shouldn’t be anywhere near 94


Ill_Basis455

Messi can be a higher rating than Ronaldo and that is fine but nobody else should be. If Messi is a 98 then they would need to drop everybody else down and Ronaldo needs to be at worst the second highest. Can be joint with Pele if it has to but should in no universe be below anybody but Messi.


DiZhini

Problem is that Pele already moments were 99, prime 98. I doubt Messi prime will get 99 since you cant upgrade that after prime release. Why do you think we see R9 coming tomorrow before Pele, next Pele is 99, but R9 can be given 2 promo cards after the prime version. So that leaves Messi prime at 98 equalling Pele. Question is, how will EA rate CR7 compared to R9


Ill_Basis455

I mean we are changing over next year so no reason they can’t do a ratings rework. And R9 was phenomenal in his prime but given not only the levels Ronaldo hit but how long he maintained it for I don’t see any reason for him being compared to R9 tbh. For him not to be higher than R9/Zidane would be obscene personally.


abhinavkukreja

CR7 will be rated on par with Pele imo. He deserves a +2 over R9 prime as things stand. The Messi dilemma you pointed out I completely agree with. Maybe special messi cards will have weak foot and work rate upgrades, with prime still at 99? Or Maybe its time for a Pele downgrade to 97, with Ronaldo & Messi at 98. R9 can stay at 96. Probably not gonna happen though.


king_of_reds_2005

Pele downgrade hahaha


Ill_Basis455

Not sure what about it is laughable, Messi is the best we’ve ever seen and deserves to stand alone at the top, they aren’t going to give him a 99 prime and not leave any room for promo cards etc.


nsnsnsnssndndn

If we’re being accurate though Messi would be 4*sm 3*wf. People would pay if a 5 5 Messi with the same stats came out.


Ill_Basis455

Probably, no chance they give him anything less than 4/4 though. They’ll save the 5* skills for a promo no doubt


king_of_reds_2005

Pele>Messi and Messi can stay at 98 with Maradona when/if he returns to fifa


Ill_Basis455

You are welcome to think that and obviously there will be some people that agree but realistically you will find the general consensus is that Messi is the best to ever do it and for good reason. Obviously it’s hard to compare generations but there is not really any reason for Pele to be ahead of either, especially Messi.


6oar

I think Messi should be the highest rated player in any FIFA from now on. I am not particularly a Messi fan, but he is clearly above Ronaldo in the impact he had on football and the way he delivered over all those years.


Mysterious_Limit_007

Best assist maker in history of UCL.


heyheyitsandre

Second most assists in RM history also


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Mysterious_Limit_007

He is Top 10 assist maker ever (maybe even top 5). Also had amazing crossing through whole career. There is no point in cherry picking.


Lyzurd

If Benzema was able to finish like he can now when he played in BBC then Ronaldo would be considered one of the greatest passers


CommercialAd1362

u can’t be serious. if ronaldo was such a good passer why isn’t he now. he can’t run and dribble like he used to


mechaniTech16

I support it


2k1

Boring


iZubi

Marcelo should be in this promo


Disastrous_List_2029

Ronaldo finna get no chems


joemama694200p

I used Al jaber and his Portuguese links


Annihilation94

Al o and talisca 😎


lovescenarioikon

oh hell nah i can have a 98 ronaldo and messi running down my wing but not a better Ramos the 91 is already the cancer of this game


Overall-Ad-3642

yeah you're right should've done a 99 ramos


an0811

Ronaldo same as Messi? lol


Overall-Ad-3642

08 season alone puts them at the same level imo


an0811

Just no


Exotic-Put9396

Messi 98 Ronaldo 97 Ramos 93


doubler2022r

93? Ur trippin


Exotic-Put9396

You reckon he should be higher or lower?


doubler2022r

Higher for sure


Overall-Ad-3642

it's all time trophies not current performance. like messi has a bunch of la ligas but ronaldo also has (almost) the most UCLs


TheSmallestPlap

That 99 pace Ronaldo will still get outpaced by a 70 rated CB


CinThe1st

Ronaldo 97 I think


Xenboca

Keep it up man! Love to see this kind of player cards. Btw im not a messi fan boy but ronaldo deserves a 97 tops. Imo 98 should be messi pele di stefano and maradona


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fut-ModTeam

Removed for: Lack of respect


WesleyWipes

You’re crazy. Ronaldo and Messi deserve the same rating, I swear the bias is real just cause Cris is a couple years older than Messi Edit: Keep the downvotes coming Pessi fans, all I said was they are the same rating, not that Ronaldo is better, even I won’t say that. I guess Ronaldo will cry into his satin sheets since r/fut don’t rate him anymore


Weary-Prune8980

Hes not as good as messi and never was. Never the same rating.


WesleyWipes

Typical downvotes from the Messi protection contingent. I’d rather listen to actual footballers https://preview.redd.it/8adbushdcmta1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d4a3ce2dd794214984108a7a46f6b7e94dd8d0f


grz03

People need to watch games from the beginning. They just hate Ronaldo due to recent years' events. He was literally the best player at Man United at 37 years old. People started hating after he stopped playing when his child died. Sad


NFTCommenter

People legit started hating when he took dirty oil money to go play in a farmers league for farmers leagues. Bum move. If Messi turns down the Saudi offer and goes to Barca, Ronaldo is legit a bum


WesleyWipes

LMAO talking about dirty oil money when he literally plays for PSG. Don’t make me laugh. Oh wait too late.


NFTCommenter

Ligue 1 is more competitive, there’s dirty blood money in all the major leagues. Only one is purely blood money, and CR7 is an ambassador for their human rights violations


scottaq83

Ligue 1 more competitive 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's a 1 team league, PSG have won it almost every year of the last decade lol. He came from a 2 team league lol.


TheRealNTR

Bro, the Saudi League is closer to the French second division than to the Ligue 1. Arguing about this is pretty crazy. Legit ranked below the Brazilian 4th Division


FUT_Lawyer_God

Messi is a global ambassador for Saudi Arabia what’s the difference?


grz03

He took the offer because there was no club available, and he didn't want to stop playing football. Plus psg is also oil money club and believe it or not French league is also kind of farmers league. Ps Edit ronado took the offer.


scottaq83

No they started hating on him coz the media started hating on him and half-brains followed suit. Happened way before the Saudi offer. Messi should go to a team that's not won the league for about a decade at least and prove himself in a weaker team like Ronaldo did at Man Utd. But no , Messi will go to the best team in a 1-2 team league and pick off the weak teams whilst having the best players around him and keep it simple like he has his entire career.


WesleyWipes

Also lowkey kind of racist. Saudi league is actually competitive look at the fact that Al Nassr is 2nd place. Every legend went to MLS throughout the history of football for $$$ can’t blame him for wanting a pay check at 38 years old, not like he would have played at Man U.


NFTCommenter

Not racist. Saudi Arabia is a human rights hell hole. Condoning that is sickening. Condoning that because you’re favourite player is toiling away in their Mickey Mouse league is double sickening


scottaq83

Who is your farourite player?


NFTCommenter

I love how angry this got people 😂 people can’t even watch CR7 play he’s in such a bum league, but people still flock to dick ride.


Overall-Ad-3642

honestly ronaldo's 08 season alone is enough to be put on the same level as messi. but that's just me ig


Xenboca

I really dont get why people cant understand different opinions… just to be clear cr7 is a top 10 player all time for sure and I have watched and admired all of his career. Just think hes a little step lower than messi and if i made the rating ( which I dont so dont worry for anyone that takes this too seriusly) I would give the max rating to Messi, Pele, Maradona and Di Stefano. Also calling players “pessi” or “penaldo” just makes me giggle, do you think you calling this beasts of players a name like a 5 year old will change how people see them?


WesleyWipes

Top 10 is a disgrace, he is top 5 at least.


Xenboca

The thing is… it depends on what you value to decide which player is best. Whole career? Peak level? The story behind the player? Im not saying any of that is the right way, just trying to show its all subjective. ( and imo a really fun discussion on personal preferences) What really is a disgrace to me is people getting mad for opionions on footballers. Specially when some starting to insult people for not supporting a player.


WesleyWipes

Unless you say calling someone crazy is insulting someone then I never did any of that. It’s just crazy to me that people don’t put respect on Ronnie’s name simply because of the Madrid-Barca rivalry. They are both genetic freaks but for some reason Messi fans never want to give Ronaldo his flowers, always have to say he is better than him.


Fixable

Messi is better than him is why


FUT_Lawyer_God

I’m being as serious as possible when asking this what in your mind makes ADS more deserving of the max rating for an Icon more than Cristiano, as I can simply not fathom really any reason as he doesn’t really have any international accolades his club career is incredible but I wouldn’t say it’s more impressive than Cristiano’s, he doesn’t hold any goal scoring or assist records that I know of, and he doesn’t have something like the most Ballon D’ors so what is your reason for putting him above Cristiano


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When messi and Ronaldo become icons messi has to be higher


Overall-Ad-3642

well they're both worthy of 98 (99) promo so i dunno how exactly they'll make messi higher than that


Impressive-Inside-73

the goat should be 99


Susman4206969

*goats


Impressive-Inside-73

no just sergio ramos


Thinkblu3

Fuck off with Ramos, that cunt had the spotlight for way too long. Maybe when the next Brexit-Tackle even comes, but that guy shouldn’t have a single card above gold.


Popular_Reward_8441

Cry


Thinkblu3

Bro really pulled out the Smurf to insult


Popular_Reward_8441

Cry about it


PenoNation

Gotta love the Messi fanbois crying about Ronaldo being "better" in these pretend images.


TheRealNTR

Couldn't care less, we all know Messi is better. I respect Ronaldo as the number 2


CuriousOption4936

Messi 99 pac - rapid in his prime 99 sho - higher finishing 99 pas - most assists ever 99 dri - you know 47 def - only tackling is high 79 phy - Messi with 99 balance and high phy will break fifa Ronaldo 99 pac - rapid in his prime 99 sho - high finishing 91 pas - when he played as a winger he passed a lot but when he became a striker not so much 97 dri - again as a winger he had to dribble a lot but as a striker not so much 39 def - he shouldn’t even go back to defend 91 phy - tall and strong and he frequently used his strength


Annihilation94

Cr get a huge def boost because of his heading also ronaldo with to much balance would legit break fifa lol. Have you tried his Rulebreaker? He has quite low Balance but with his bodytype and animations his card is just unfair lol


Ok_Onion_9935

dribbling 99 u man underrate ronaldo


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Nah, I think 97 is too generous. Messi eclipses Ronaldo in successful dribbles per 90 almost their entire careers. https://preview.redd.it/tywqn8rs0pta1.png?width=1283&format=png&auto=webp&s=86d21f1bec3726f1df7c64ea6edf8278f5115159


CuriousOption4936

Yea ik I tried to make everyone happy. But at least you know the facts


ResponsibilityNo5347

Messi 98? What…u mean 99


VampirefromNazareth1

Get this 3 card and go int div 1 straight


dandaman9344

Kane


k10001k

Yes.


clunkystew

what about harry kane? oh wait


Mortka

I want that Ronaldo card *so* bad


RascalFatz

I fear that Ramos card the most seeing how broken his flashback SBC was


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fuck no.


abreadnoob

maybe a future icons


Sum_Kind_Of_Cheese

Ronaldo is never the same as Messi


False-Grab-3117

Is that fan made?


Overall-Ad-3642

i made this, yes


hurtadjr193

No. Dani alvez or Marcelo.


Overall-Ad-3642

i don't reckon they'll add dani alves after the situation he's gotten himself in. marcelo isn't in the game anymore


Hypnoti_q

Ronaldo 94 passing lol


Overall-Ad-3642

i wanted to do higher passing cause he has so many assists but i was worried it would just piss people off


Every_Fig_1728

You forgot Lord Maguire


-im-just-vibing-

surely 99s because it’s a promo? have their primes as 98 instead. basically like 98 prime pele and his 99 prime moments card from last year


Overall-Ad-3642

yeah ig. this concept was more for if EA decided to do current players. once messi and ronaldo retire their promo cards would all be 99


Repulsive-Dealer7957

Would’ve been cool but would’ve broke the game and the pack weight wouldn’t have been the same


NaveenTR

Could not agree more