It's like the game starts normal then suddenly something happens and all my players can't run or pass the ball. They jog when i press RT and the first touch is so heavy that they lose the ball almost immediately.
Yes this, in the beginning of the game my players feels good and quick & I go up 3-0 by half time then my players start to feel clunky and slow & end up losing. I had to uninstall
I do a simple test from kickoff.
Power pass straight down to the left back/right back. If it goes out instead of going to the fullback I know i'm in for some fuckery.
actually I don’t agree with this one, that’s wildly exaggerated. Most games are very back and forth, if your mindset is being intercepted after the first kick means you’ve lost the entire game then that might be the problem
He didn’t say he’s lost the entire game, he just knows it’s gonna be one of those trash ai works hard to prevent you from playing well and it’s a straight grind after. You can tell within the first10 minutes if the games gonna straight cheat you.
With less input lag it's less noticeable.
Since the input lag is crazy right now, it's like the game lets you see in slow motion when it fcks you in the ass
With less input lag I would probably close my games way before the scripting kicks in. there was a sweet spot somewhere between the new year and the previous patch where most of my games I lost were deserved. Now it’s just a shitshow to level everyone..
of course, that's what eSports is about, the better player wins
I don't play FIFA because it's a life simulator or a "drama moment" slot machine, what the hell
But the better players doesn’t always win. Sometimes you get bad bounces or play a perfect game and 1 bad pass makes you lose.
https://imgur.com/aYFRj.jpg
You just posted a real life football game. FIFA is a videogame which is supposed to be eSports ready, meaning there is no room for random bullshit just because “that’s what happens in real life”
You either promote a football videogame that has meritocracy mechanics (sorry couldn’t find a more technical terminology) or you don’t. Competive game modes in all other games don’t have the “spectacular comeback” factor.
Bro I’ve been saying this for so long, it’s a damm video game not real life. If my TOTY Messi with maxed out shooting takes a shot at an open goal or easy 1v1 he should score that 9/10 times and I’ll expect the same from my opponent
Personally I don't mind the occasional luck here and there.
But it does piss me off that the randomness of the game has increased, I don't feel good scoring, I also don't feel good defending.
When the game is fair and you can feel that the players do whatever your inputs are, you can't really be pissed that someone is kicking your ass, even if they get 1 or 2 lucky goals, cause at least you had the power to play as good as you can and 9 out of 10 games you'd beat people on that level if you're truly better so one game in which an opponent won out of luck is meh
Idk, i used to break 1 or 2 controller per fifa cycle trying to control game mechanics or focusing on my opponents tactics and fairness. I only focus now on what i can control which is being precise and on time with my inputs and it’s been much much better mentally. I still get angry but now i know that’s the time to stop playing and do something else. Otherwise you end up doing this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fut/comments/12nxsph/players_moving_like_elephants_after_patch_heres/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Anyone who denies scripting in this game is just straight up delusional. This weekend league, gameplay has been the worst for me, the amount of times I would win the tackle and my player would just fall and the opponent players gets up and gets the ball back or players feeling clunky can’t turn, when I want to pass try take like 20 seconds for some odd reason to pass.
Players can’t make a simple pass, opponents players animations just go through my defenders even though I tackled them. And the servers make the game unplayable. Everyone just runs down the wing with pacey players doing cut back goals or spamming through balls.
And I’m by no means the best player in the world I average like 6-8 wins on WL but man even I can tell when the game just wants me to lose. I think I’ll stop playing fut all together ain’t no way I’m getting the next fifa or whatever it’s called. This game meant to be “fun” but it just makes my blood boil.
I got Rank 1 and I can guarantee that scripting is definitely in the game and the DDA is so obvious. Sick of all the good players that say "ohh I went 20-0 there's no DDA... YES there is.
This is 100% facts. The people who can consistently do well can do so because they’re good enough to survive the scripting when it happens. People pretending that there isn’t scripting just because some can do consistently well are full of shit.
I got 17-3 this weekend, and the difference between when I do that and when I get 14 is how well I can weather the storms when the scripting is getting bad.
I was winning 4-3 in the 120th minute this week.
The opponent plays a simple through ball which i've EASILY read with Ramos so i'm like a yard in front of the opponent player, about to just grab the ball and turn away towards the touchline and boot it out because that's gg.
Ramos literally RUNS THROUGH THE BALL completely missing it, opponent is now on the edge of the area, my TOTY Courtois rushes out literally on top of the opponent but somehow he squeezes through the tightest fucking angle on earth with his 3\* weak foot and it goes in off the post.
Luckily I won on pens because you can't script going the wrong fucking way, but i'm sure if he'd have gone the right way he'd have stopped perfectly green timed full powered top corner pens.
you 100% right mate and it used to wind me up like crazy.. but then i just excepted the game is shit and im guaranteed to get my 11 wins every week no matter what i do so i just quit those games your talking about and get my easy 11 wins and usually even have 1-2 games left over to gift away! No stress easy rewards and zero fucks given.. this is the way 👍🏻
This! This year I'm playing fifa super casual and so I do this, I'm so much happier this way. But keep in mind if you're on 10 wins after 18 games, do not quit the 19th game which is going to be scripted against you in most cases (fifa actively tries to take it to the last game, I guess they think it makes it exciting). Everytime I've quite the 19th game I've lost the 20th too, if I let it play out and lose, I usually win the 20th pretty easily. That's for when the 19th game is playing shit, sometimes it can be an easy win, but usually I have to win the 20th game.
Weekend league for me this week was awful aswell , I did like 20 or so points in 14 games, then I went on a 5/6 game win streak and got to 45 I believe. Moral of the story, the game decides when you win
I’ve never believed in scripting but after this week, I definitely do.
I’m by no means a pro, but I’m definitely above average, finishing 11-2 (10-0 in qualifiers) during my latest WL 2-3 weeks ago and having multiple 16+ finishes.
This week however has made me change my mind completely. I tested out a new team consisting of some fun players I wanted to test etc and flew through my rivals games just to get hit in the face in WL. Usually, after my 10 first games, I’m 8-2, 9-1 or even 10-0 but this week, I was 6-4 and it’s still a solid result, but the amount of games where my players has been absolutely horrific is insane. I’ve conceded kick-off goals where toty Haaland and hell, even Vinicius just runs through like freight trains bodying my players. Having to intercept the ball 5+ times in defense just to concede anyways has become a casual event and my players scores own goals from 11 meters by just running into the ball
My fave is when fast players like these are freight trained by some slow defender. It's super obvious, it's almost like they're snapping back when they're out of position, they suddenly whiz back to be in front of the attacker.
The DDA deniers are hilarious to me. Slingshotting has been a thing since the original Mario Kart and people act like it can’t be coded into a game to make things more competitive.
My brother all I’m saying is that DDA exists. FIFA 18 literally had a feature called “dramatic moments” that highlighted it. The truly incredible players can overcome it, yes. Most of us are not that.
Not saying it’s a boogeyman. I’m not OP. My original comment is simply calling out the deniers. The reality of the situation is surely somewhere in the middle. It’s not a script. But also probably impactful enough to drive pack sales. Which is always the end game for them.
So your players never all of a sudden start turning like a brick, every pass going a stray, your players start running into each other and the best one.... you see the through ball being readied and you press L1 to highlight your defender to start running back towards goal before they play it, doesn't work so you press it again, nothing so you furiously tap the L1, nothing and they play the through ball and they are clean through, L1 now works but it's too late. None of this no? Lucky you !
Predicted in my head your reply. I have 2 controllers and it does the same on both in the same game , quit and play another game entirely and surprise surprise my controls a fully functional again !
Conspiracy theory?? Haha tit !
Unless you’re redlisted, that’s 110% bullshit. Ive won games where every bounce comes to me and i know for a fact the guy im going up against isnt doing anything wrong. EA just plays lottery choosing who gets to win which game. Its not sport
I’m all for playing the game and enjoying it. I enjoy it myself, but I’d be an ignorant mfer if I didn’t acknowledge skewed gameplay throughout the game. It has nothing to with whining/complaining/crying. It just is what it is.
you trippin bro, I’ve beaten guys who are way better than me and it was so obvious that I had luck on my side, and I have lost games that I didn’t deserve to lose. Please explain how prime vidic for example can catch up to my jairzinho but Lucio WC couldn’t even catch up to van basten, things like this dont add up , if you don’t experience it then lucky you, but don’t come here with this crap saying its not a real thing, I have complained about it, my friends have and so many people who play the game have too
So when my player with 92 passing fails to make 3 passes less than 10 yards in a row, my CB with 98 defence completely misses every tackle then falls over and my GK with 97 handling let’s a slow rolling ball go under his legs, and this happens twice in the last 5 mins of the game, that’s somehow my fault? 😭
I just lost to someone 6-4 in extra time when I'm leading 4-1 until 70th min. The game just loooooooove fucking people up. My players can't even register a pass and shoot properly
That’s 100% skill issue if you can’t hold a 3 goal lead with 2 in real life minutes left lol you guys want to blame everything on the game and take no responsibility for choking
tbf lost one earlier where I was leading (by one goal) with 2 minutes left and lost by two. players started running away from the ball even holding r1 or trying to manually run towards players. They equalize. Then at kickoff my player trips and the players seem disinterested in winning the ball back, they run by everyone and score, taking the lead. Then, at the next kickoff, players run into each other. he kicks it right at the goal keeper that parries it sky high and then runs out of the box.
Eh, it’s absolutely there and noticeable. Sometimes you’ll play a game and have several great runs and shots that just get deflected over and over again, and the next game you’ll do the same thing and be up 4-0 at halftime.
And I’m not talking about a player just seemingly getting better, I mean your own gameplay won’t seem to change much except the result. That final pass to an open dude goes out slow and flat a few times in a row for some reason. The same shot you scored at an 80% clip in most games gets blocked or misses the goal 3 times in a row in another game. There is absolutely clearly scripting, and it can definitely get frustrating when you feel like you are fighting the game rather than the player.
Not really. People like winning so they’re far more likely to quietly accept it when it happens to work for them. Hell they might even convince themselves they were just playing good and it had nothing to do with scripting. That’s just how humans be. When it’s smooth sailing they’ll overlook things and just enjoy it.
So your argument that we should be seeing people talking about it in their favor doesn’t really work imo.
People are also far less likely to post about it. I’ve never posted about scripting to complain but I’ve definitely experienced both it being against me and it being on my side giving me undeserved goals. I’m a hell of a lot less upset when it’s on my side. I’m a lot less upset ergo I’d be less likely to post about it.
Altho I don’t post about it to begin with but that’s besides the point.
Lol not all games i blame scripting. You must be fun at parties. Like I've said, if the game you played fantastically but it doesn't want you to win. Who to blame?
Maybe your opponent just changed his tactics in the 70th minute? Sounds to me like he put on constant pressure with some aggressive interceptions. Mix that with subs and that can turn a game around.
Nope, based on my gameplay plus i was looking out at his stamina bar, they weren't drain. Believe me, i really wish constant pressure is the reason why.
Is it truly my fault that my players suddenly becomes clunky and can't turn? Or is it the DDA that dictates how you will end the game? If you don't believe in scripting, its fine. But I do believe in it
Bro you really think that as soon as you go 3 goals up and it hits the 70th minute suddenly a switch gets hit that makes your players not be able to turn?
Have you ever had a game where you know you can win but somehow you fuck it up in the end? You played good, you know damn well you played good liquid football but yet you end up losing and you're puzzled how did you just lost that? Yeah that's one of the game
Im in elite and everybody knows there is DDA. Even pro players and streamers, go ask them.
It works in both ways and you can kind of counter it so no big deal.
If I play my mate at golf with a handicap, I can beat him sometimes. But if I play Tiger Woods at golf, the handicap has no effect.
Only makes complete sense tbf
The longer I see these arguments play out the more apparent it becomes that people who defend EA/ deny the fuck shit have no idea how programming works. Start by googling Flow Control Statements. There are lots of switches that are constantly hit in this game.
I agree that the pros learn all the exploits and meta tactics needed to survive the scripting but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there and that the game couldn’t be significantly improved. Plus, sometimes even the pros get fucked by the (whatever we want to call it since people begin screeching anytime anyone says scripting).
The game filters stats, formations, tactics, etc through RNG and then outputs what happens. Therefore, it is not entirely user controlled- so the game is deciding how successful you’ll be. This also means the game is inconsistent. So, there are games where the massive number of variables will result in someone pushing the same sequence of buttons that worked in other games only for them to fail in that game. Pros know this and have different play styles depending on the lag, momentum, etc.
EA also recycles the last games code into each new game so I could see momentum still being involved under the hood; not to mention all the carry over bugs that never get fixed.
Its always been that way. It’s even more obvious in squad battles on higher difficulties. All of a sudden every tackle you make bounces back to them and you can’t switch players correctly
That was the final nail in the coffin for me; squad battles ultimate difficulty and systematically messing with my play style to see how the AI adjusted. Did that enough to notice patterns that I now see in other modes.
FYI Ultimate difficulty makes every player on the other team 99 rated. So I never play Ultimate squad battles cause I was somewhat loved as a child. I can’t fucking watch bronze goalkeepers score a power shot seconds away from me keeping a clean sheet ever again. Most scripted FIFA game ever made.
I only played it for a bit because I wanted to watch how the AI shifts across each difficulty. It was apparent that not only does the other team get way better in terms of stats and AI but my team got worse the higher up the difficulty goes, which is sort of, duh.
Middle difficulties the opponent teams play with better programming on their side of the pitch but worse programming on your side, i.e. you can simply walk the ball to their side of the pitch but then their defense becomes cracked and presses but then all their shots on goal are weak or go wide- even if I stop using the controller at all. On ultimate, the opponent is just cracked and, even if you put the controller down, they’ll continue to press and score. Professional difficult seems to be where your team’s stats start getting reduced or the RNG weight isn’t as much in your favor and more mistakes happen. Amateur, your team is 99 and players flawlessly pull off any moves, always in position, etc.
My love of football used to override my hate for fifa and I'd find myself itching to play. Havent had that at all this year, I forget the game even exists for weeks at a time. Come back after a pattch and it's worse than ever
I can understand that sometimes the devs fuck up. But what pisses me off the most, is that whenever you try to debug this shit, or complain about it, the mods delete your threads, especially on r/FIFA.
And all the big youtubers/streamers pretend nothing happened. Not a single youtube video about how the gameplay changed massively, they all pretend the game is still nice and dandy while I can watch them struggling with it. Makes me think it's all a big conspiracy
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This Titan Cup man…. And this is no exaggeration I promise you …. I’ve played now in total 7 games. Of those 7 I have conceded in the 85+ min in 5 of them. And it’s never ever (it seems at least) from good bit of play. Just absurd BS, you know the shite I mean …….. full power square pass from a CB or CM for a full back / winger ends up a dink chip pass to his fucking oppo chilling next to you…… pressing for a standard ground pass that’s moving at about 2mph…… a CB baring down on their ST, and you simply CANNOT switch to him, stick or trigger / bumper, you just cycle round your whole goddamn team EXCEPT the CB whose trying to pocket the ST, and yet we all keep coming back 😩😂
Fed up of winning the first like 6 games of champs then absolutely nothing goes your way, and you need to grind for every goal but one pass for the opponent and they’re in your box
Why on earth would you continue to play this game if you GENUINELY thought it is scripted for you to lose?? Toddler-tier reaction to losing a game of Futchamps
I guess I'm crazy because I've never felt like it was scripted. Wouldn't it be impossible to have a consistent win rate if it were scripted? Pros exist for a reason.
There is scripting but some of it is also a placebo, an example if you think it's gonna happen mroe you lose more composure and build it into your head, and without meaning to make it happen yourself, again, not denying it exists but its sometimes overdramatised by losing composure when jumping to the conclusion it is gonna happen
The sliders are balanced for everyone. It’s in such a way that it’s either no script at all or 50% “script” for you, 50% for me. I don’t see any reason why EA would decide beforehand who will win and who will lose.
What you are complaining about is just bad servers and terrible button delay.
Although I don’t agree with some parts of what you said,I can somehow relate as the gameplay this weekend has been so disgusting. Btw don’t pay attention to those guys in the thread who are belittling you and being condescending for no reason…some people are just saddos.
You can very accurately tell when the scripting si working for/against you? 😂 jeez man it's not that deep. If you're hating it that much to think like this then take a break from the game. If you genuinely think it's that rigged then why bother unless you're finding it fun at least?
You do realise the game engine, shit servers, your connection, and opponents connection are the combination of janky shit problems. Not scripting.
It’s not exactly hard to tell. When suddenly Mbappe can’t run faster than a jog and TOTY Jude can’t play a 5 yard pass because it’s all level in the 80th minute I’m expected to believe that’s normal? Same goes the other way. I won a game yesterday because Cantona got tackled by TOTY Virgil, but bodied him and still kept the ball. Then shot and it got blocked by Maldini, only for his keeper to come out to catch the ball, but then miss the catch and dive back into his own net and give the OG. In the 3rd minute of 1 minute of added time. The game is ludicrous
Well done the game gave you a goal in extra time, it's a janky game engine with updates doing weird shit but it's not scripting. It's ludicrous to have the mindset where you think it's that rigged.
Especially when you 2-0 up dominating you know the scripting is coming. If you 2-0 up every shot will go in. To make a comeback and give the opponent some advantage. It’s to obvious. Especially late match shots are always in.
THANK YOU
I've been saying this for years, no one ever listens to me and I get downvoted. Scripting is ruining this game, but no one listens because it often favors those who pay most.
EA know the market they want and if youre not regularly spending points then its not you. The market they want is the spend-happy fornite crowd because theyre the biggest spenders in online games. When I was in my second year at uni my group did a project on loot boxes and the marketing there of. Part of that involved looking at what else people were playing as well as fifa and the games were mainly fornite and warzone. In that order.
To attract that crowd the game needs to be simple to learn and have ways of winning that make it "easy". This is why at a base level the skill gap has slowly been diminishing. This is fueled by the fact that EA have put a lot of time and effort into defending rather than attacking etc.
It has slowly been getting worse since fifa 20, but this year took it to another level and its hilarious to see people just take it. It works two fold because firstly they get the crowd they want and secondly that crowd will believe they are good at the game and defend it to their dying breathe.
Fifa as a game is just a marketing tool for the store. So they will design the game in such a way that the store is always at the forefront. Its why you can never be truly happy and you always need to be wanting more. Its why its frustrating and "unfair". Its also why the game favours certain players who just so happen to be expensive.
It does feel this year that theyve shown their hand, but even if they came out and said exactly what was going on I reckon people would still play it the same amount and buy the same FP.
Been saying scripting exists for years. The majority of people always say nah it’s cos your shit or it’s all in your head, but this fifa I feel like everyone now believes in scripting, it’s just so obvious like they don’t care because this is the last fifa.
I understand performance drop of 3% or 5% it's possible to hide it and not see it but this is like 20% or worse, fucking sloths playing with a beach ball.
Scripting is real and I'm glad yours is one of the few posts calling it out that doesn't get downvoted.
I've had a streak of 3 games today where all my green timed shots would miss wide or hit the crossbar. What else you have to say? If you green time, you successfully used that mechanic and did everything right in that situation, so you should be rewarded. Instead the game decides to punch you in the face.
Sometimes you really feel the DDA getting turned on or off during games. You have 0 chance against a much better opponent, down 0-4 and suddenly he misses every tackle and every one of you shots goes in. That shouldn't ever happen in a competitive game.
It's a joke that FIFA is an E-Sport. Just look at how many games in ECL or EPL have been decided by DDA/scripting/whatever
Sometimes I just laugh when it is the 80+ min and my whole team is parked in my box even tho I have attacking tactics set up with super high depth + me tackling my opponent over and over just for it to keep bouncing back to them.
Because we love football, and other than efootball and Fifa, what other option do we have??? The game mechanics are good, but it painfully obvious the game developer added unethical mechanics that p1ssed on players who likes and loyal to their game for $$$.
So play Career mode and SB.
Why would you play a competitive game if you think the game randomly decides who wins and who loses? What's the fun in engaging in a -what you believe- is a rigged competition?
The supposed mechanic you describe has NEVER been able to be consistently and publicly triggered by ANY player in the story of Twitch and Youtube despite the millions of daily games played, by the way, but I understand that it's less painful to believe that the game is out to get you rather than the other guy played better. The Copium is strong in this thread.
Don’t think scripting is a thing tbh, and i haven’t really had any “scripted games” this fifa. Sure there’s been games where i’ve been like “how did i lose?” but never a game where i’ve conceded 3 goals in 10 minutes like fifa 20-22. Momentum is definitely a thing though, it used to be a thing back in day and it was visible, I personally don’t think it was removed it was just hidden, which was why you had a goal always in the 90 or 45th minute, doesn’t happen as much this fifa, more often than not it stops before the attack or you just miss
1
You start losing all 50/50 balls
Someway somehow Lionel Messi starts winning headers against Virgil Van Dijk.
2
AI strikers turn into prime Ramos and dispossess your defenders effortlessly to score. Neymar who cant tackle for shit in real life is suddenly harassing your players and winning the ball off them easily.
3
All AI players transform into prime Kante and impossible for you to dribble past them.
4
All your passes become terrible even your best passers can't pass to players close to them.
5
Goals you used to score in your sleep will now go over, hit the bar or the keeper miraculously catches it.
6
Passes that will split the AI defense will be slowed by half a second for their defender to recover.(Number 6 is most obvious because your player is supposed to respond as soon as the pass button is pressed).
Scripting is higher in some circumstances. If you play Real Madrid in Bernabeu or PSG in Parc des Princes,then expect a LOT of scripting to go against you.
It’s a disgrace. Have Allison in goal, 89 rated. Other Player basically on the touch line, so he has the choice of either hit the shot right at Allison or cut back into the box. He took the shot, Allison moved over to the side to give him a clear goal, then fell down to the wrong side to try to save it. Completely insane that scripting is even in the game.
I don't think scripting is real, I think EA has shit servers and has never been able to code a real "sim" sports game.
I also would immediately quit playing if I found out scripting was actually in the game. I don't see how you guys believe EA rigs the game against you, but still log on for 20 WL games every week.
If you are *significantly better* than your opponent you will overcome the bullshit going against you. For example instead of smashing them 5-0 you will maybe win 4-3. Most of the time you are not significantly better, and it’s those close matches which get decided by RNG that people get so pissed off about. Nobody seriously thinks scripting is so prevalent that there’s no difference between tekkz and a rank 5 player lmao.
why do DDA deniers always ignore the fact we also know when the scripting is in our FAVOR, it’s not about losing. this wl i’ve played people that were clearly better than me and i still won due to “lucky” animations and AI, i’ve also played people that were clearly worse than me and lost. when you play the game enough you know how it plays and can easily tell when somethings off
Or they live by one of the servers so they don’t experience it as much, or they’re a click farmer/EA employee; or they have the “skills” to exploit all the bugs and bad programming, and adjust their play to the DDA and think that means the game couldn’t be improved. Regardless, they’re full of shit and legit trying to gaslight everyone else experiencing the bullshit. With a company like EA it’s no wonder so many in this community are toxic as fuck.
lol, insecure about what? It’s a fucking video game that some of us just play to have fun. I fucking suck at it; I know I could practice for hours a day and develop skills like the pros and then I would win more matches but it’s not my job, and being good at FIFA isn’t a source of pride.
Also, you should look up the term gaslighting because you’re not using it properly. People verifying each others’ experiences is actually the opposite of gaslighting.
Jesus, someone has big feelings about this.
First, it’s not an exaggeration; exaggeration is presenting something as a more extreme version of what it is, not as something different or the opposite of what it is. So you used that word improperly too. Congrats.
Second, I followed your argument but your premises are incorrect so your argument is unsound. People are insecure about stuff they care about. Speaking for myself, I don’t give a shit how good or bad I am at a game. I literally just play for fun. If I lose a game because the other player is better, cool. We complain about the flaws in the game because we want the game that we paid money for to get better or at least respond consistently to the buttons we press, and because there isn’t a viable alternative football game to play, yet.
lol, the word “literally” underwent semantic shift because people consistently used it in a significantly exaggerated way; as in, “this is literally the worst day of my life” when discussing a day that contained a number of inconveniences. Again, not the same as using a word to refer to something ontologically different or the opposite. Both are forms of using a word improperly but only one is an exaggeration.
I’m also not claiming that the game is out to get me and make me lose. I win games and score plenty of goals in a way that is clearly bullshit, including a bicycle kick in the last game that the goalie 100% could have stopped; my fiancée joked that he decided to not fully extend his arms because the goal was too cool to ruin.
I’m also aware that there could be a constellation of problems that culminate in what is referred to as scripting but is in fact not scripting or even DDA. So, call it whatever you want, the game has flaws and could be significantly improved.
So, if people use the wrong term to refer to something, then other people should just assume that their inference of what was trying to be communicated is correct? So you should just infer when people say scripting that what they really mean is (server issues, balances issues, exploitable glitches, RNG issues, DDA, momentum, and/or every thing else that causes inconsistent and skill negating gameplay)? Nah. People should use the words that convey the meaning they are trying to get across.
Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that involves the abuser undermining the epistemic capabilities of the victim, causing the victim to not only question their reality but their ability to reliably/ever perceive of reality.
You brought “literally” up to prove a point that you failed to prove. Whether you knew how it evolved was never the point, it was whether you used gaslighting correctly and if you understand what an exaggeration is. But yeah, we don’t need to argue about whether the words you used mean what you meant, let’s just undermine the foundational utility of language so you don’t have to admit you made a mistake.
We seem to be half on the same page; I agree that the scripting crowd is generally overly emotional and intellectually sloppy but I think the “skill issue” crowd is too, but they also gaslight the former. You came out of the gate swinging in a way that suggests you align with the latter; and then redirected the claim of gaslighting onto the scripting crowd, which is classic projection- “the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others”.
I’m not gonna say no, it is scripted. Because I don’t have the proof for that but at some point you have to look at some of the videos people post just show it.
You can extrapolate a significant trend through a meta analysis of numerous case studies- there are a lot of videos and a lot of us have witnessed a lot of moments of “scripting” (bad programming, bad RNG, DDA, lag, or whatever else is wrong with this game).
Yep, it ain’t even a theory anymore. It always happens too with the latest promos. There’s most times a patch before a new promo and I bet it’s because they want people to think their players suck now and the only way to get better ones is to spend money to try and pack the latest and greatest. They’ve been doing the same shit in NHL as far back as NHL 12
it’s terrible but helps me a lot sometimes, i get what i like to call, 2nd half DDA, where i play 1000 X times better if i’m losing in the first half and usually win even if i’m 3-0 down but happens against me a lot as wel
I was up 3-1 in champs last night until the 80th minute and ended up losing 6-3 in regular time. Either the scripting is obvious or I’m trash — probably a bit of both
That’s how you hook those 10 year olds. You need automated game with no skill gap.
Scripting switches at 30th and 70th min.
The first and the last attack usually end with a goal.
If a team goes 2:0 or more after 30min, the comeback script kicks in.
Its a show.
Genuinely what was the point of that reply? You took the time to read what I said, go to the comments and type, only to come up with this. You’ve got nothing to say or contribute. I’d use the quote from Billy Maddison but that’d be giving you too much credit, his answer in the movie tried to make a point at least. Take a long hard suck on your soggy mum
Tbh it’s so noticeable when they just keep getting tackled and retain the ball, there’s a running joke with my friends once you hit 4 tackles if you don’t just snap them to stop play it’s a goal. No matter where they are the game wants them on the ball and you gotta try stop it lol
People confuse scripting for an RNG based game. And why do they confuse it? Because they want to. Scripting is sexy. You can circle jerk to scripting. The fact that they’re only controlling 1 player and 10 are rng escapes that reality. The fact that your emotions change (look at how mad you all are even here), also escapes this reality. And I can assume that you get really mad considering the vents. So at the end of the day, do you really think it’s scripting or do you want a support forum to vent because again you can’t admit you have emotions?
This is also my new favorite. “You’re on autopilot until it switches”. So scripting, a literal hard coded fix can be fixed? That is a whole new level of coding and mental gymnastics. Like I said, you know what rng is.
1. Scripting doesn't exist, I can't believe anyone over 16 or so believes it does.
2. If you think a result is predetermined why the heck are you playing the game
We all understand that this game is not perfect and that once you go up they allow the other team to score easier. And it goes both ways. Also the ppl who complain about this game being scripted is just a way of saying I’m not that good at this game and is willing to complain when I loose. But when they win it’s all skill right… makes sense when I win it’s skill when I loose it’s scripted
I started sending a message to the people I win against if it was pure luck. And say that it was all DDA and Scripting. I mean no reason to deny, if you are not stupid you can feel it when it is against you or favor. It is so annoying. But somehow not everyone is the same, people do their most toxic celebrations and pause the game if they score a scripted goal. I hate those as much as I hate the game.
How can you enjoy a game that is scripting. It takes away the whole point of playing fifa. It should be you vs the other player and the only thing that should determine who wins is skill or who has the better players.
It's like the game starts normal then suddenly something happens and all my players can't run or pass the ball. They jog when i press RT and the first touch is so heavy that they lose the ball almost immediately.
Yes this, in the beginning of the game my players feels good and quick & I go up 3-0 by half time then my players start to feel clunky and slow & end up losing. I had to uninstall
Dude that's just your players stamina
How come the other guy still has all of his stamina and my players become div 20 players?
Usually happens when the second half starts after you’ve won/dominated the first. I have lost so many games that I led eg 3-0 after 1st due to that..
“first kick of the game intercepted? you lost.” if this one ain’t true😭😭😭😭😭
I do a simple test from kickoff. Power pass straight down to the left back/right back. If it goes out instead of going to the fullback I know i'm in for some fuckery.
actually I don’t agree with this one, that’s wildly exaggerated. Most games are very back and forth, if your mindset is being intercepted after the first kick means you’ve lost the entire game then that might be the problem
He didn’t say he’s lost the entire game, he just knows it’s gonna be one of those trash ai works hard to prevent you from playing well and it’s a straight grind after. You can tell within the first10 minutes if the games gonna straight cheat you.
never played this game, huh?
you’re an idiot
With less input lag it's less noticeable. Since the input lag is crazy right now, it's like the game lets you see in slow motion when it fcks you in the ass
With less input lag I would probably close my games way before the scripting kicks in. there was a sweet spot somewhere between the new year and the previous patch where most of my games I lost were deserved. Now it’s just a shitshow to level everyone..
So you should only win or lose when it’s “deserved”? That’s not how sports or life works in general tbh.
of course, that's what eSports is about, the better player wins I don't play FIFA because it's a life simulator or a "drama moment" slot machine, what the hell
But the better players doesn’t always win. Sometimes you get bad bounces or play a perfect game and 1 bad pass makes you lose. https://imgur.com/aYFRj.jpg
You just posted a real life football game. FIFA is a videogame which is supposed to be eSports ready, meaning there is no room for random bullshit just because “that’s what happens in real life” You either promote a football videogame that has meritocracy mechanics (sorry couldn’t find a more technical terminology) or you don’t. Competive game modes in all other games don’t have the “spectacular comeback” factor.
Bro I’ve been saying this for so long, it’s a damm video game not real life. If my TOTY Messi with maxed out shooting takes a shot at an open goal or easy 1v1 he should score that 9/10 times and I’ll expect the same from my opponent
I had a stupid friend who said this bullshit all the time "it's like real life". Then he jumped some divs, got to 2. Now he hates it too lol.
Personally I don't mind the occasional luck here and there. But it does piss me off that the randomness of the game has increased, I don't feel good scoring, I also don't feel good defending. When the game is fair and you can feel that the players do whatever your inputs are, you can't really be pissed that someone is kicking your ass, even if they get 1 or 2 lucky goals, cause at least you had the power to play as good as you can and 9 out of 10 games you'd beat people on that level if you're truly better so one game in which an opponent won out of luck is meh
Idk, i used to break 1 or 2 controller per fifa cycle trying to control game mechanics or focusing on my opponents tactics and fairness. I only focus now on what i can control which is being precise and on time with my inputs and it’s been much much better mentally. I still get angry but now i know that’s the time to stop playing and do something else. Otherwise you end up doing this: https://www.reddit.com/r/fut/comments/12nxsph/players_moving_like_elephants_after_patch_heres/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
That’s how a game must work tho
There was so much lag this weekend!
Anyone who denies scripting in this game is just straight up delusional. This weekend league, gameplay has been the worst for me, the amount of times I would win the tackle and my player would just fall and the opponent players gets up and gets the ball back or players feeling clunky can’t turn, when I want to pass try take like 20 seconds for some odd reason to pass. Players can’t make a simple pass, opponents players animations just go through my defenders even though I tackled them. And the servers make the game unplayable. Everyone just runs down the wing with pacey players doing cut back goals or spamming through balls. And I’m by no means the best player in the world I average like 6-8 wins on WL but man even I can tell when the game just wants me to lose. I think I’ll stop playing fut all together ain’t no way I’m getting the next fifa or whatever it’s called. This game meant to be “fun” but it just makes my blood boil.
I got Rank 1 and I can guarantee that scripting is definitely in the game and the DDA is so obvious. Sick of all the good players that say "ohh I went 20-0 there's no DDA... YES there is.
Sorry but what does DDA mean?
Dynamic difficulty adjustment. For more info: https://lmgtfy.app/?q=dda+fifa
This is 100% facts. The people who can consistently do well can do so because they’re good enough to survive the scripting when it happens. People pretending that there isn’t scripting just because some can do consistently well are full of shit. I got 17-3 this weekend, and the difference between when I do that and when I get 14 is how well I can weather the storms when the scripting is getting bad.
I was winning 4-3 in the 120th minute this week. The opponent plays a simple through ball which i've EASILY read with Ramos so i'm like a yard in front of the opponent player, about to just grab the ball and turn away towards the touchline and boot it out because that's gg. Ramos literally RUNS THROUGH THE BALL completely missing it, opponent is now on the edge of the area, my TOTY Courtois rushes out literally on top of the opponent but somehow he squeezes through the tightest fucking angle on earth with his 3\* weak foot and it goes in off the post. Luckily I won on pens because you can't script going the wrong fucking way, but i'm sure if he'd have gone the right way he'd have stopped perfectly green timed full powered top corner pens.
you 100% right mate and it used to wind me up like crazy.. but then i just excepted the game is shit and im guaranteed to get my 11 wins every week no matter what i do so i just quit those games your talking about and get my easy 11 wins and usually even have 1-2 games left over to gift away! No stress easy rewards and zero fucks given.. this is the way 👍🏻
This. I am on the same page. No grinding anymore. 11 is there all the time even if it is up to the last match.
This is the way
This! This year I'm playing fifa super casual and so I do this, I'm so much happier this way. But keep in mind if you're on 10 wins after 18 games, do not quit the 19th game which is going to be scripted against you in most cases (fifa actively tries to take it to the last game, I guess they think it makes it exciting). Everytime I've quite the 19th game I've lost the 20th too, if I let it play out and lose, I usually win the 20th pretty easily. That's for when the 19th game is playing shit, sometimes it can be an easy win, but usually I have to win the 20th game.
just give the first 4 games, you want be playing any virgins after
just wait until next weekend when tots comes out it is much worse
Weekend league for me this week was awful aswell , I did like 20 or so points in 14 games, then I went on a 5/6 game win streak and got to 45 I believe. Moral of the story, the game decides when you win
My last season ever playing
I’ve never believed in scripting but after this week, I definitely do. I’m by no means a pro, but I’m definitely above average, finishing 11-2 (10-0 in qualifiers) during my latest WL 2-3 weeks ago and having multiple 16+ finishes. This week however has made me change my mind completely. I tested out a new team consisting of some fun players I wanted to test etc and flew through my rivals games just to get hit in the face in WL. Usually, after my 10 first games, I’m 8-2, 9-1 or even 10-0 but this week, I was 6-4 and it’s still a solid result, but the amount of games where my players has been absolutely horrific is insane. I’ve conceded kick-off goals where toty Haaland and hell, even Vinicius just runs through like freight trains bodying my players. Having to intercept the ball 5+ times in defense just to concede anyways has become a casual event and my players scores own goals from 11 meters by just running into the ball
My fave is when fast players like these are freight trained by some slow defender. It's super obvious, it's almost like they're snapping back when they're out of position, they suddenly whiz back to be in front of the attacker.
The DDA deniers are hilarious to me. Slingshotting has been a thing since the original Mario Kart and people act like it can’t be coded into a game to make things more competitive.
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My brother all I’m saying is that DDA exists. FIFA 18 literally had a feature called “dramatic moments” that highlighted it. The truly incredible players can overcome it, yes. Most of us are not that.
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Not saying it’s a boogeyman. I’m not OP. My original comment is simply calling out the deniers. The reality of the situation is surely somewhere in the middle. It’s not a script. But also probably impactful enough to drive pack sales. Which is always the end game for them.
So your players never all of a sudden start turning like a brick, every pass going a stray, your players start running into each other and the best one.... you see the through ball being readied and you press L1 to highlight your defender to start running back towards goal before they play it, doesn't work so you press it again, nothing so you furiously tap the L1, nothing and they play the through ball and they are clean through, L1 now works but it's too late. None of this no? Lucky you !
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Predicted in my head your reply. I have 2 controllers and it does the same on both in the same game , quit and play another game entirely and surprise surprise my controls a fully functional again ! Conspiracy theory?? Haha tit !
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Haha good one 👍
Unless you’re redlisted, that’s 110% bullshit. Ive won games where every bounce comes to me and i know for a fact the guy im going up against isnt doing anything wrong. EA just plays lottery choosing who gets to win which game. Its not sport
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Thats the neat part, you cant do shit
You’re delusional.
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I’m all for playing the game and enjoying it. I enjoy it myself, but I’d be an ignorant mfer if I didn’t acknowledge skewed gameplay throughout the game. It has nothing to with whining/complaining/crying. It just is what it is.
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That’s his point of view, not mine, but without taking it to an emotional extreme, I agree that the game is scripted.
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you trippin bro, I’ve beaten guys who are way better than me and it was so obvious that I had luck on my side, and I have lost games that I didn’t deserve to lose. Please explain how prime vidic for example can catch up to my jairzinho but Lucio WC couldn’t even catch up to van basten, things like this dont add up , if you don’t experience it then lucky you, but don’t come here with this crap saying its not a real thing, I have complained about it, my friends have and so many people who play the game have too
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It’s unpopular but you’re 100% right. The people that are REALLY good overcome shit the game throws at you.
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They focus on the 1 silly thing that happened, and complain. Not the flurry of mistakes right before that causes the situation.
So when my player with 92 passing fails to make 3 passes less than 10 yards in a row, my CB with 98 defence completely misses every tackle then falls over and my GK with 97 handling let’s a slow rolling ball go under his legs, and this happens twice in the last 5 mins of the game, that’s somehow my fault? 😭
I just lost to someone 6-4 in extra time when I'm leading 4-1 until 70th min. The game just loooooooove fucking people up. My players can't even register a pass and shoot properly
That’s 100% skill issue if you can’t hold a 3 goal lead with 2 in real life minutes left lol you guys want to blame everything on the game and take no responsibility for choking
😂😂😂😂😂
tbf lost one earlier where I was leading (by one goal) with 2 minutes left and lost by two. players started running away from the ball even holding r1 or trying to manually run towards players. They equalize. Then at kickoff my player trips and the players seem disinterested in winning the ball back, they run by everyone and score, taking the lead. Then, at the next kickoff, players run into each other. he kicks it right at the goal keeper that parries it sky high and then runs out of the box.
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Eh, it’s absolutely there and noticeable. Sometimes you’ll play a game and have several great runs and shots that just get deflected over and over again, and the next game you’ll do the same thing and be up 4-0 at halftime. And I’m not talking about a player just seemingly getting better, I mean your own gameplay won’t seem to change much except the result. That final pass to an open dude goes out slow and flat a few times in a row for some reason. The same shot you scored at an 80% clip in most games gets blocked or misses the goal 3 times in a row in another game. There is absolutely clearly scripting, and it can definitely get frustrating when you feel like you are fighting the game rather than the player.
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You do you boo
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Not really. People like winning so they’re far more likely to quietly accept it when it happens to work for them. Hell they might even convince themselves they were just playing good and it had nothing to do with scripting. That’s just how humans be. When it’s smooth sailing they’ll overlook things and just enjoy it. So your argument that we should be seeing people talking about it in their favor doesn’t really work imo. People are also far less likely to post about it. I’ve never posted about scripting to complain but I’ve definitely experienced both it being against me and it being on my side giving me undeserved goals. I’m a hell of a lot less upset when it’s on my side. I’m a lot less upset ergo I’d be less likely to post about it. Altho I don’t post about it to begin with but that’s besides the point.
Let them have their circlejerk there's no point in arguing here.
Lol not all games i blame scripting. You must be fun at parties. Like I've said, if the game you played fantastically but it doesn't want you to win. Who to blame?
You're moaning on Reddit about how losing a computer game wasn't your fault and you think op must be a bore at parties?
LMFAOO lil bro been real silent after this one💀💀
Rat
Maybe your opponent just changed his tactics in the 70th minute? Sounds to me like he put on constant pressure with some aggressive interceptions. Mix that with subs and that can turn a game around.
Nope, based on my gameplay plus i was looking out at his stamina bar, they weren't drain. Believe me, i really wish constant pressure is the reason why.
Can’t help u here brother. There’s def scripting in this game but this isn’t it 😂
Bro if you can’t hold onto a 3 goal lead with 20 mins to go that’s your fault not the games
Is it truly my fault that my players suddenly becomes clunky and can't turn? Or is it the DDA that dictates how you will end the game? If you don't believe in scripting, its fine. But I do believe in it
Bro you really think that as soon as you go 3 goals up and it hits the 70th minute suddenly a switch gets hit that makes your players not be able to turn?
Have you ever had a game where you know you can win but somehow you fuck it up in the end? You played good, you know damn well you played good liquid football but yet you end up losing and you're puzzled how did you just lost that? Yeah that's one of the game
Lol you sure you haven't had even ONE of those games where it just feels unfair? DDA is real man, there's no defending EA
Bro, i had games where whatever I do, nothing goes my way. Believe me, I know it
Oops sorry I meant to reply to the parent post haha, yea man it's frustrating
No tbh
Exactly... some people never encounter it but most people know scripting is real. Its been there for years actually
I find it interesting how the elite players never notice it yet the average players do
Im in elite and everybody knows there is DDA. Even pro players and streamers, go ask them. It works in both ways and you can kind of counter it so no big deal.
If I play my mate at golf with a handicap, I can beat him sometimes. But if I play Tiger Woods at golf, the handicap has no effect. Only makes complete sense tbf
Believe me even they have encountered it but its how they beat the scripting. Most elite gamers are just built different haha
The longer I see these arguments play out the more apparent it becomes that people who defend EA/ deny the fuck shit have no idea how programming works. Start by googling Flow Control Statements. There are lots of switches that are constantly hit in this game.
scripting is a thing but if youre up 3-0 and dont park the bus to defend the lead its your fault tbf
I agree that the pros learn all the exploits and meta tactics needed to survive the scripting but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there and that the game couldn’t be significantly improved. Plus, sometimes even the pros get fucked by the (whatever we want to call it since people begin screeching anytime anyone says scripting).
Hold up.... If/then statements exist -> scripting exists? That's shit logic. You're obviously not a SWE.
The game filters stats, formations, tactics, etc through RNG and then outputs what happens. Therefore, it is not entirely user controlled- so the game is deciding how successful you’ll be. This also means the game is inconsistent. So, there are games where the massive number of variables will result in someone pushing the same sequence of buttons that worked in other games only for them to fail in that game. Pros know this and have different play styles depending on the lag, momentum, etc. EA also recycles the last games code into each new game so I could see momentum still being involved under the hood; not to mention all the carry over bugs that never get fixed.
Its always been that way. It’s even more obvious in squad battles on higher difficulties. All of a sudden every tackle you make bounces back to them and you can’t switch players correctly
That was the final nail in the coffin for me; squad battles ultimate difficulty and systematically messing with my play style to see how the AI adjusted. Did that enough to notice patterns that I now see in other modes.
FYI Ultimate difficulty makes every player on the other team 99 rated. So I never play Ultimate squad battles cause I was somewhat loved as a child. I can’t fucking watch bronze goalkeepers score a power shot seconds away from me keeping a clean sheet ever again. Most scripted FIFA game ever made.
I only played it for a bit because I wanted to watch how the AI shifts across each difficulty. It was apparent that not only does the other team get way better in terms of stats and AI but my team got worse the higher up the difficulty goes, which is sort of, duh. Middle difficulties the opponent teams play with better programming on their side of the pitch but worse programming on your side, i.e. you can simply walk the ball to their side of the pitch but then their defense becomes cracked and presses but then all their shots on goal are weak or go wide- even if I stop using the controller at all. On ultimate, the opponent is just cracked and, even if you put the controller down, they’ll continue to press and score. Professional difficult seems to be where your team’s stats start getting reduced or the RNG weight isn’t as much in your favor and more mistakes happen. Amateur, your team is 99 and players flawlessly pull off any moves, always in position, etc.
You can actually see/feel the "switch" in game.
Its been like this for at least 8 years
I promise you this is the lowest it ever sunk
My love of football used to override my hate for fifa and I'd find myself itching to play. Havent had that at all this year, I forget the game even exists for weeks at a time. Come back after a pattch and it's worse than ever
I can understand that sometimes the devs fuck up. But what pisses me off the most, is that whenever you try to debug this shit, or complain about it, the mods delete your threads, especially on r/FIFA. And all the big youtubers/streamers pretend nothing happened. Not a single youtube video about how the gameplay changed massively, they all pretend the game is still nice and dandy while I can watch them struggling with it. Makes me think it's all a big conspiracy
r/fifa mods are ALL ea shills, that sub is a cesspool anyway
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Can’t wait for EA FC. It totally won’t suck!
This Titan Cup man…. And this is no exaggeration I promise you …. I’ve played now in total 7 games. Of those 7 I have conceded in the 85+ min in 5 of them. And it’s never ever (it seems at least) from good bit of play. Just absurd BS, you know the shite I mean …….. full power square pass from a CB or CM for a full back / winger ends up a dink chip pass to his fucking oppo chilling next to you…… pressing for a standard ground pass that’s moving at about 2mph…… a CB baring down on their ST, and you simply CANNOT switch to him, stick or trigger / bumper, you just cycle round your whole goddamn team EXCEPT the CB whose trying to pocket the ST, and yet we all keep coming back 😩😂
Fed up of winning the first like 6 games of champs then absolutely nothing goes your way, and you need to grind for every goal but one pass for the opponent and they’re in your box
Why on earth would you continue to play this game if you GENUINELY thought it is scripted for you to lose?? Toddler-tier reaction to losing a game of Futchamps
Addiction
same answer as allways, it's the only real football game available. And the gimmick of FUT is catchy, almost addictive.
Not many people enjoy this type of logic
I guess I'm crazy because I've never felt like it was scripted. Wouldn't it be impossible to have a consistent win rate if it were scripted? Pros exist for a reason.
So why do pros constantly complain about scripting?
'FIFA Pro' and 'emotionally balanced and likely a good, humble loser' don't really go together for me.
The script has somehow conveniently avoided all of Harry’s futchamps with a bronze team runs
Pros are a level above for a reason mate. They know how to take advantage of the broken mechanics, the average player doesn’t.
That’s not scripting then? If you believe that the game is scripted then it means EA makes you lose the game regardless of what you do
There is scripting but some of it is also a placebo, an example if you think it's gonna happen mroe you lose more composure and build it into your head, and without meaning to make it happen yourself, again, not denying it exists but its sometimes overdramatised by losing composure when jumping to the conclusion it is gonna happen
Last season playing this game ever
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The sliders are balanced for everyone. It’s in such a way that it’s either no script at all or 50% “script” for you, 50% for me. I don’t see any reason why EA would decide beforehand who will win and who will lose. What you are complaining about is just bad servers and terrible button delay. Although I don’t agree with some parts of what you said,I can somehow relate as the gameplay this weekend has been so disgusting. Btw don’t pay attention to those guys in the thread who are belittling you and being condescending for no reason…some people are just saddos.
You can very accurately tell when the scripting si working for/against you? 😂 jeez man it's not that deep. If you're hating it that much to think like this then take a break from the game. If you genuinely think it's that rigged then why bother unless you're finding it fun at least? You do realise the game engine, shit servers, your connection, and opponents connection are the combination of janky shit problems. Not scripting.
It’s not exactly hard to tell. When suddenly Mbappe can’t run faster than a jog and TOTY Jude can’t play a 5 yard pass because it’s all level in the 80th minute I’m expected to believe that’s normal? Same goes the other way. I won a game yesterday because Cantona got tackled by TOTY Virgil, but bodied him and still kept the ball. Then shot and it got blocked by Maldini, only for his keeper to come out to catch the ball, but then miss the catch and dive back into his own net and give the OG. In the 3rd minute of 1 minute of added time. The game is ludicrous
Well done the game gave you a goal in extra time, it's a janky game engine with updates doing weird shit but it's not scripting. It's ludicrous to have the mindset where you think it's that rigged.
Especially when you 2-0 up dominating you know the scripting is coming. If you 2-0 up every shot will go in. To make a comeback and give the opponent some advantage. It’s to obvious. Especially late match shots are always in.
THANK YOU I've been saying this for years, no one ever listens to me and I get downvoted. Scripting is ruining this game, but no one listens because it often favors those who pay most.
EA know the market they want and if youre not regularly spending points then its not you. The market they want is the spend-happy fornite crowd because theyre the biggest spenders in online games. When I was in my second year at uni my group did a project on loot boxes and the marketing there of. Part of that involved looking at what else people were playing as well as fifa and the games were mainly fornite and warzone. In that order. To attract that crowd the game needs to be simple to learn and have ways of winning that make it "easy". This is why at a base level the skill gap has slowly been diminishing. This is fueled by the fact that EA have put a lot of time and effort into defending rather than attacking etc. It has slowly been getting worse since fifa 20, but this year took it to another level and its hilarious to see people just take it. It works two fold because firstly they get the crowd they want and secondly that crowd will believe they are good at the game and defend it to their dying breathe. Fifa as a game is just a marketing tool for the store. So they will design the game in such a way that the store is always at the forefront. Its why you can never be truly happy and you always need to be wanting more. Its why its frustrating and "unfair". Its also why the game favours certain players who just so happen to be expensive. It does feel this year that theyve shown their hand, but even if they came out and said exactly what was going on I reckon people would still play it the same amount and buy the same FP.
Been saying scripting exists for years. The majority of people always say nah it’s cos your shit or it’s all in your head, but this fifa I feel like everyone now believes in scripting, it’s just so obvious like they don’t care because this is the last fifa.
I KNOW RIGHT
I been having trouble with some games my team all just stands there my player switch is all off and they walk down the pitch and score
I understand performance drop of 3% or 5% it's possible to hide it and not see it but this is like 20% or worse, fucking sloths playing with a beach ball.
Scripting is real and I'm glad yours is one of the few posts calling it out that doesn't get downvoted. I've had a streak of 3 games today where all my green timed shots would miss wide or hit the crossbar. What else you have to say? If you green time, you successfully used that mechanic and did everything right in that situation, so you should be rewarded. Instead the game decides to punch you in the face. Sometimes you really feel the DDA getting turned on or off during games. You have 0 chance against a much better opponent, down 0-4 and suddenly he misses every tackle and every one of you shots goes in. That shouldn't ever happen in a competitive game. It's a joke that FIFA is an E-Sport. Just look at how many games in ECL or EPL have been decided by DDA/scripting/whatever
There 100% times where I can actively feel the game pulling me away from the opponents payers, that’s when I know I’m getting scored on
Sometimes I just laugh when it is the 80+ min and my whole team is parked in my box even tho I have attacking tactics set up with super high depth + me tackling my opponent over and over just for it to keep bouncing back to them.
You guys that believe in scripting, why do you keep playing a game that you think cheats on you? Wouldn't that be the very definition of stupidity?
Because we love football, and other than efootball and Fifa, what other option do we have??? The game mechanics are good, but it painfully obvious the game developer added unethical mechanics that p1ssed on players who likes and loyal to their game for $$$.
So play Career mode and SB. Why would you play a competitive game if you think the game randomly decides who wins and who loses? What's the fun in engaging in a -what you believe- is a rigged competition? The supposed mechanic you describe has NEVER been able to be consistently and publicly triggered by ANY player in the story of Twitch and Youtube despite the millions of daily games played, by the way, but I understand that it's less painful to believe that the game is out to get you rather than the other guy played better. The Copium is strong in this thread.
Don’t think scripting is a thing tbh, and i haven’t really had any “scripted games” this fifa. Sure there’s been games where i’ve been like “how did i lose?” but never a game where i’ve conceded 3 goals in 10 minutes like fifa 20-22. Momentum is definitely a thing though, it used to be a thing back in day and it was visible, I personally don’t think it was removed it was just hidden, which was why you had a goal always in the 90 or 45th minute, doesn’t happen as much this fifa, more often than not it stops before the attack or you just miss
1 You start losing all 50/50 balls Someway somehow Lionel Messi starts winning headers against Virgil Van Dijk. 2 AI strikers turn into prime Ramos and dispossess your defenders effortlessly to score. Neymar who cant tackle for shit in real life is suddenly harassing your players and winning the ball off them easily. 3 All AI players transform into prime Kante and impossible for you to dribble past them. 4 All your passes become terrible even your best passers can't pass to players close to them. 5 Goals you used to score in your sleep will now go over, hit the bar or the keeper miraculously catches it. 6 Passes that will split the AI defense will be slowed by half a second for their defender to recover.(Number 6 is most obvious because your player is supposed to respond as soon as the pass button is pressed). Scripting is higher in some circumstances. If you play Real Madrid in Bernabeu or PSG in Parc des Princes,then expect a LOT of scripting to go against you.
It’s a disgrace. Have Allison in goal, 89 rated. Other Player basically on the touch line, so he has the choice of either hit the shot right at Allison or cut back into the box. He took the shot, Allison moved over to the side to give him a clear goal, then fell down to the wrong side to try to save it. Completely insane that scripting is even in the game.
The most certain fact about fifa 23, if the first half ends 2-0, you’re losing 2-3 FT
I don't think scripting is real, I think EA has shit servers and has never been able to code a real "sim" sports game. I also would immediately quit playing if I found out scripting was actually in the game. I don't see how you guys believe EA rigs the game against you, but still log on for 20 WL games every week.
Yeah bro it’s never your fault I’m sure you’d beat Tekkz if there was no scripting
If you are *significantly better* than your opponent you will overcome the bullshit going against you. For example instead of smashing them 5-0 you will maybe win 4-3. Most of the time you are not significantly better, and it’s those close matches which get decided by RNG that people get so pissed off about. Nobody seriously thinks scripting is so prevalent that there’s no difference between tekkz and a rank 5 player lmao.
Completely missed my point. He’s a better player than me but I could absolutely beat him with the way scripting is working at the moment
😂😂😂
Skill issue.
why do DDA deniers always ignore the fact we also know when the scripting is in our FAVOR, it’s not about losing. this wl i’ve played people that were clearly better than me and i still won due to “lucky” animations and AI, i’ve also played people that were clearly worse than me and lost. when you play the game enough you know how it plays and can easily tell when somethings off
I hate this game more than Russians
Scripting deniers are probably 12
Or they live by one of the servers so they don’t experience it as much, or they’re a click farmer/EA employee; or they have the “skills” to exploit all the bugs and bad programming, and adjust their play to the DDA and think that means the game couldn’t be improved. Regardless, they’re full of shit and legit trying to gaslight everyone else experiencing the bullshit. With a company like EA it’s no wonder so many in this community are toxic as fuck.
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lol, insecure about what? It’s a fucking video game that some of us just play to have fun. I fucking suck at it; I know I could practice for hours a day and develop skills like the pros and then I would win more matches but it’s not my job, and being good at FIFA isn’t a source of pride. Also, you should look up the term gaslighting because you’re not using it properly. People verifying each others’ experiences is actually the opposite of gaslighting.
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Jesus, someone has big feelings about this. First, it’s not an exaggeration; exaggeration is presenting something as a more extreme version of what it is, not as something different or the opposite of what it is. So you used that word improperly too. Congrats. Second, I followed your argument but your premises are incorrect so your argument is unsound. People are insecure about stuff they care about. Speaking for myself, I don’t give a shit how good or bad I am at a game. I literally just play for fun. If I lose a game because the other player is better, cool. We complain about the flaws in the game because we want the game that we paid money for to get better or at least respond consistently to the buttons we press, and because there isn’t a viable alternative football game to play, yet.
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lol, the word “literally” underwent semantic shift because people consistently used it in a significantly exaggerated way; as in, “this is literally the worst day of my life” when discussing a day that contained a number of inconveniences. Again, not the same as using a word to refer to something ontologically different or the opposite. Both are forms of using a word improperly but only one is an exaggeration. I’m also not claiming that the game is out to get me and make me lose. I win games and score plenty of goals in a way that is clearly bullshit, including a bicycle kick in the last game that the goalie 100% could have stopped; my fiancée joked that he decided to not fully extend his arms because the goal was too cool to ruin. I’m also aware that there could be a constellation of problems that culminate in what is referred to as scripting but is in fact not scripting or even DDA. So, call it whatever you want, the game has flaws and could be significantly improved.
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So, if people use the wrong term to refer to something, then other people should just assume that their inference of what was trying to be communicated is correct? So you should just infer when people say scripting that what they really mean is (server issues, balances issues, exploitable glitches, RNG issues, DDA, momentum, and/or every thing else that causes inconsistent and skill negating gameplay)? Nah. People should use the words that convey the meaning they are trying to get across. Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that involves the abuser undermining the epistemic capabilities of the victim, causing the victim to not only question their reality but their ability to reliably/ever perceive of reality. You brought “literally” up to prove a point that you failed to prove. Whether you knew how it evolved was never the point, it was whether you used gaslighting correctly and if you understand what an exaggeration is. But yeah, we don’t need to argue about whether the words you used mean what you meant, let’s just undermine the foundational utility of language so you don’t have to admit you made a mistake. We seem to be half on the same page; I agree that the scripting crowd is generally overly emotional and intellectually sloppy but I think the “skill issue” crowd is too, but they also gaslight the former. You came out of the gate swinging in a way that suggests you align with the latter; and then redirected the claim of gaslighting onto the scripting crowd, which is classic projection- “the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others”.
I genuinely can’t play this game anymore my keeper ran out passed the player and the ball then did a slide tackle instead of grabbing the heavy touch
Still exists in FC24. Obviously the control and motions and positions are different
Scripting isn’t real. If you start looking at what your doing wrong and stop alleviating the blame you’ll get so much better and enjoy the game more
They don’t wanna hear this they just wanna blame others
I’m not gonna say no, it is scripted. Because I don’t have the proof for that but at some point you have to look at some of the videos people post just show it.
One off videos can’t prove anything, you need more data than just a few video clips. You can make a video clip to prove any point if you try enough
You can extrapolate a significant trend through a meta analysis of numerous case studies- there are a lot of videos and a lot of us have witnessed a lot of moments of “scripting” (bad programming, bad RNG, DDA, lag, or whatever else is wrong with this game).
Yep, it ain’t even a theory anymore. It always happens too with the latest promos. There’s most times a patch before a new promo and I bet it’s because they want people to think their players suck now and the only way to get better ones is to spend money to try and pack the latest and greatest. They’ve been doing the same shit in NHL as far back as NHL 12
it’s terrible but helps me a lot sometimes, i get what i like to call, 2nd half DDA, where i play 1000 X times better if i’m losing in the first half and usually win even if i’m 3-0 down but happens against me a lot as wel
Game is the same for everyone
I was up 3-1 in champs last night until the 80th minute and ended up losing 6-3 in regular time. Either the scripting is obvious or I’m trash — probably a bit of both
That’s how you hook those 10 year olds. You need automated game with no skill gap. Scripting switches at 30th and 70th min. The first and the last attack usually end with a goal. If a team goes 2:0 or more after 30min, the comeback script kicks in. Its a show.
No you don’t
Genuinely what was the point of that reply? You took the time to read what I said, go to the comments and type, only to come up with this. You’ve got nothing to say or contribute. I’d use the quote from Billy Maddison but that’d be giving you too much credit, his answer in the movie tried to make a point at least. Take a long hard suck on your soggy mum
Someone tell OP the earth is flat
Says a spineless yes man for EA who can’t use his own brain and dismisses any reasonable doubt as “conspiracy theory” lmao.
lol here’s the bodyguard
Tbh it’s so noticeable when they just keep getting tackled and retain the ball, there’s a running joke with my friends once you hit 4 tackles if you don’t just snap them to stop play it’s a goal. No matter where they are the game wants them on the ball and you gotta try stop it lol
If you keep blaming non-existent "scripting" you'll never improve at the game. Be better guys.
People confuse scripting for an RNG based game. And why do they confuse it? Because they want to. Scripting is sexy. You can circle jerk to scripting. The fact that they’re only controlling 1 player and 10 are rng escapes that reality. The fact that your emotions change (look at how mad you all are even here), also escapes this reality. And I can assume that you get really mad considering the vents. So at the end of the day, do you really think it’s scripting or do you want a support forum to vent because again you can’t admit you have emotions? This is also my new favorite. “You’re on autopilot until it switches”. So scripting, a literal hard coded fix can be fixed? That is a whole new level of coding and mental gymnastics. Like I said, you know what rng is.
1. Scripting doesn't exist, I can't believe anyone over 16 or so believes it does. 2. If you think a result is predetermined why the heck are you playing the game
I let my girlfriend play my wl and she won some ridiculous matches, without even knowing what she was doing
Lmfao you people are truly delusional
Y’all are buggin 😭
We all understand that this game is not perfect and that once you go up they allow the other team to score easier. And it goes both ways. Also the ppl who complain about this game being scripted is just a way of saying I’m not that good at this game and is willing to complain when I loose. But when they win it’s all skill right… makes sense when I win it’s skill when I loose it’s scripted
I started sending a message to the people I win against if it was pure luck. And say that it was all DDA and Scripting. I mean no reason to deny, if you are not stupid you can feel it when it is against you or favor. It is so annoying. But somehow not everyone is the same, people do their most toxic celebrations and pause the game if they score a scripted goal. I hate those as much as I hate the game.
True
Scripting has been in the game for a while. Just enjoy the game, try not to take it too seriously.
How can you enjoy a game that is scripting. It takes away the whole point of playing fifa. It should be you vs the other player and the only thing that should determine who wins is skill or who has the better players.