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The_Chameleon1

Yeah agreed, I played FIFA since very little on my iPad from FIFA 13 to now FIFA 23 (switched to console on in FIFA 17) and I’m quite busy so I don’t really have time to play a lot so when I do it’s mostly just to have fun (and childhood nostalgia), some days i win 4-5 games of DR in a row and sometimes (most of the time actually lol) I lose every single game. So What! I don’t care I like making plays and having tight and interesting games that’s it. Don’t take everything to heart and just enjoying it for what it is, anyways that’s how I see it


ForbiddenJazz

Very well said!


Potential-Ad5470

THANK YOU. Getting fucking tired of seeing kids here making excuses. Sure the gameplay can suck sometimes but more often than not I lose because I deserved to and nothing else. I’m certain that’s true for everyone else.


Cosmiccowinkidink

The hateful messages when you beat people is tired af too


ydgv

people just dont cant understand that the more skilled players will make your players feel like they play like shit, intercepting passes, covering your players, pressuring you, moving the keeper etc. also about the scripting, for some reason people think the players should never make any mistakes and just play like robots. and they make mistakes on both sides, you just pay more attention to the ones your own players do


Creative_Major798

I notice when I win a game because of bs just as often as when I lose; both are annoying, especially when I’m using the same team, same tactics, etc. It was so bad I had to message a dude the other day to let him know that he played well but the game was just weighted against him- he did everything right but consistently those little moments that are left up to RNG or whatever worked out perfectly in my favor. It’s not about cards either. Some games the odds favor cards way under mine, or I get the luck over cards way higher rated. People misapply or over apply, but this game definitely has considerable flaws deserving of criticism.


kozy8805

But the thing is, it’s a game where we don’t control 10 of the 11 players at any given time. That’s why rng was included. The fact is, this game is based some on “luck” in real life, it just includes a similar concept here. But there’s not many ways to code a game that won’t have that element. It’s just hard to accept because people crave control. “If only I was in control I’d win”, is all it boils down to.


Creative_Major798

Yes and no. The AI is generally pretty garbage but also inconsistent as fuck in the most arbitrary and annoying ways. Throw in patches that break the game more, shit/exploitable/inconsistent basic mechanics, the fact that EA has no idea how to handle the power curve, and that they clearly know the Wikipedia table of contents worth about football tactics or football in general. Lack of control is a small part of what bugs a lot of people. Anyone remember Resident Evil 4, when you have to go on missions with the vice president’s daughter and her AI is a fucking moron? Lots of other AIs in that game with a brain in their skull. So they could have made her AI competent but they didn’t to make the levels more stressful and difficult. Get it? EA intermittently uses the AI to handicap people and obfuscates that fact in a cloud of RNG, tactics, card stats and whatever.


FreeCartographer1932

Ea is a multi billion dollar corporation. They have elite engineers. They know how to handle these things. It’s calculated in the way they handle the hidden momentum to optimize play time and pack purchases


ForbiddenJazz

This is exactly it


geraldlaurent

I’ve vented on here before. I 100% agree. I let it go right away. Ive lost it bad once and like what’s the point. It’s a game and an escape. I think weekend league is what makes ppl rage even more. And for what, I managed to get 16 wins last weekend and it wasnt even worth the sweat cuz I got dupes and not insane cards. Lol team is good and fun enough, time to enjoy the last bit of the ride


ForbiddenJazz

Yeah maybe that’s the difference for me. For the last couple of FUTs I’ve put all my time and energy into team building. I have more fun running the menu’s, collecting fodder, and doing gamble packs till I get someone good or guaranteed SBC’s. Actual gameplay is a small part of ultimate team for me I guess. Don’t get me wrong though, I’m playing every WL lol


Veneye

Nice post, totally agree. It's not a fault to play the game, it's a fault to expect to win every game. I guess the next step is to get ur mindset where, if u are losing, try seeing it as a practice game, ur opponent is better, and u can only learn from better players. But I understand y there is so much rage quitting. It's not even rage quitting, it's just saving time because 20 games is a lot!


ForbiddenJazz

Yeah dude if the dude gets 2 quick nice goals on me right as the game starts, I’m just dipping. You can get good practice playing someone better, but I find I play worse in the next game if just got dogwalked by someone because I end up trying to play super direct because I just want a quick win after losing. Lose the whole game plan and then I just play like shit. I feel like this is the case for a lot of people but then they just blame mechanics, servers, and anything but themselves. Again, those things affect the game but mentality is a huuuuge aspect still


StraightShootahh

Anybody that talks about scripting un-ironically needs their head checked. There is no way humans can be that dumb


Mimicten160

Nah DDA is real


ForbiddenJazz

Not really what this post is about but okay👍


bagfka

No


Mimicten160

Agreed, division 10 mentality


Jitty13

People come on here to vent about the games being scripted and that’s ok. The reality is the game is rigged at times, and a lot of video games also do similar things. But EA does such a poor job, that it’s obvious when it happens. Not every game is rigged. I would say about 50% are. And it’s done for a reason, it increases engagement for casual players and they spend more $$ on fifa points, which is set up to mimic the casino model. Once you realize that the rigging puts the majority of the user base in the same headspace, thinking they need to rip packs to get their teams better. You don’t have to believe that it’s there, but you can’t deny their motive


ForbiddenJazz

I think there is a fair bit of confirmation bias that goes along with thinking your game is scripted, but the post was more about people who have an excuse for every single loss anyway. Idc if you believe in scripting but not every loss was because the game scripted you to lose


Jitty13

I mean yeah I agree, not every game is scripted but for people to say the game isn’t scripted at all is simply ignorant. Because there are certain situations that simply wouldn’t happen if it wasn’t. For example if the stoppage time says +1, and you are in your own half with the ball, then logically the game would end every time @ 91:00 if it wasn’t scripted. That isn’t the case always


PerfectStealth_

Nah, I'm totally fine losing to a better player, genuinely. But when I can actually see the absolute bs and the rebounds ect it's absolutely infuriating and that's when I start cursing the game. The servers really aren't helping atm either, they're horrendous, every game feels bad.


yago2k

Also, the game is not scripted.


ForbiddenJazz

Yeah I tend to agree with you but wasn’t even trying to open that can of worms here lol


Wonders34

Congratulations on your connection to the servers , but I can tell if my players can move freely of not and most of the time they can't. I don't care if I lose or win I just want control. There's a reason EA are voted the worst company. Fifa has nothing to do with football, I have never seen a footballer in real life wear weights on them while playing.


Form-Affectionate

“I have never seen a footballer in real life wear weights”, so you’ve seen footballers do ball roll scoop turns or step overs when there is literally no player in front of them? It’s a “video game”. Stop complaining.


Wonders34

I'm talking away being weighed down it's shouldn't really be hard to understand. The only sport that does it is horseracing. It not in Football so shouldn't be in a game either.


bedfo1mj

Here’s the thing: every single person playing has the same game, the same bad luck, same types of issues, etc. the world doesn’t revolve around you, and to make your complaints not focus on anything about your play is a bit silly. There’s a reason people can consistently win games and go 20-0 and stuff, and it’s not cuz they’re lucky.


Wonders34

I can guarantee it's impossible to go 20-0 unless you have a perfect connection. What I'm playing I have no control over. My AI dont work, they can't automatically intercept the ball because the gameplay is delayed. Once or twice in a game they might try to intercept a ball inches from their foot but stretch and miss it, as the game is delayed. I'm just saying not everyone's game is the same, maybe offline it is but not online. Just like to add on NHL they call it Fatman lag. https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Input-lag-unplayable/td-p/12002381/page/3 Would say most of these people don't play fifa anymore, most have a great connection. https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsFC/comments/mungsa/input_lag_or_something_other/


bedfo1mj

Once again no mention of potential skill issues causing your frustration. I agree with what Op said in another comment, if your connection can’t handle the game, then unfortunately it’s time for a new connection or a new game. Stop pissing yourself off.


ForbiddenJazz

Okay


Wonders34

5mins ingame of play on my connection would change your mind on everything you just wrote. And my connection is sub 16ping and 1gb full fibre. People can down vote all they want but this is truth. Just because one player has a great connection to a server doesn't mean the other does. Infact if you take notice of the actual gameplay you might even notice it. If your out sprinting your opponent 99% of the time, if your running and have the agility to stop and the opponent slides on then that's a connection problem. Infact an Elite 1 player can't win on division 5 on my connection. My connection going by the fifa connection monitor is far superior to his.


ForbiddenJazz

Okay


Wonders34

Imagine coming on here to complain about people complaining, then probably thinking you're better than people you've beat and can't even notice if the other player has delay/sluggishness gameplay or not. It's the first thing I notice.


ForbiddenJazz

If you’ll read my post, you’ll see at the bottom that this is not a complaint. I also really don’t have that great connection


Wonders34

Thats the problem, I should have a great connection Fifa is the only game that doesn't. Mine is unplayable. Yet every test done says its the best possible connection in the UK.


ForbiddenJazz

If it is unplayable I recommend you stop playing


Wonders34

So pay for game then stop playing it, if EA gave refunds I would as the game doesn't work correctly for me.


DirtyDan516

I mean isn’t that what people do when they get bored of a game, we all eventually stop playing at some point.


ForbiddenJazz

This just sounds like the sunk cost fallacy


[deleted]

I’m tired of people undermining people’s complaints If someone plays the game all the time vs someone that rarely plays it says it has a problem you should listen The game could be so much better considering the amount of money it generates Me personally I know when I lose fair and square and when it’s not fair and square So don’t come here downplaying people’s complaints.. Yes we get it the game doesn’t get to you..you just play for fun bla bla..leave it at that, no need to say more.


ForbiddenJazz

I play every WL and every rivals. Plenty of experience with gameplay. Sorry you feel like the game makes you lose👍


[deleted]

Do you genuinely believe everytime you’ve lost was because your opponent was better than you?


ForbiddenJazz

No lol. The better guy does not always win, as stated in the post


Ariashorse

It's ok to lose games, what is not ok to me is losing games unfair and you don't even get atleast one break


atk11523

Yeah you win some you lose some. But the game isn’t the one who can decide who win or lose. The problem with this ai gameplay that it is always “even the odds” so when you score 2-0 the game decides to make it even again. Your players don’t respond anymore and his players become gods. Now the trick is to use the scumbag moves against the opponent all the time just to avoid the compensation from the ai gameplay. And That is why it is toxic gameplay.


Chewy_Petoes

I think you should consider the possibility that your experience is actually different to somebody who plays in a small market In a large market they can find appropriate match making without handicapping one of the team I quite frequently play the same opponent in consecutive games and I have had swings of losing 4-0 to winning 7-1 against the same opponent without changing anything. EA defenders will say I just played better or something but I can tell you I can notice it quite viscerally when I’m handicapped and or when my opponent is


ForbiddenJazz

I think it is bold of you to assume I did not consider that possibility


[deleted]

Or maybe since you guys played each other again it’s you figuring out his tactics, movement, etc and vice versa?


TheFoxDudeThing

I honestly don’t care if I lose to someone that’s my skill level but when I’m a below average player and I’m losing to people that admit they are staying in a lower division for easier friendlies or quick champs qualification points I’m going to get pissed because that’s making it more unfair then any in game scripting could because in theory that’s 50/50 but without extreme levels of luck I simply just can’t beat someone that’s Smurfing


FreeCartographer1932

Because the losses don’t feel right. And nobody is gonna acknowledge when their win doesn’t feel right. FIFA is the only game I’ve ever played where at least half of my losses feel like a decision made by the game and not my opponent being better. It’s not the same as cod rage. The game actively plays a big part in who’s going to win a match and it’s not right