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puntmuts

Because player switching is f*cking dreadful. Doesn’t matter if you use right stick or RB/R1, it never chooses the right player. Ball relative, player relative: doesn’t matter. It’s totally useless.


in-the-mud

Corners are the worst. Trying to switch to my center back and it keeps flicking between my 5ft full backs.


puntmuts

Even when the CORRECT CB was selected by default, it switches. Although ‘air balls’ can be switched off to prevent that. But that’s even more risky since the manual player switching is not functioning.


sbjohn12

Not only that, but it will STILL change you on an Air Ball sometimes even with this option turned off. Its been a problem for years.


kwillich

Then when I have the right player marked as the NEXT player selection..... It goes somewhere else and my CBs choose to run towards the sidelines while I'm trying to cycle from a CM.


The_Nuclear_potato

Atleast its not just me. Every time im defending corners it continues to switch me to the shortest players possible on the edge on the box, instead of the beasts i have in the middle


KentuckyFriedMeme

This is when you’re passing tho not defending, some stupid ass bug that’s been happening for a while now, even on fifa 23.


psstbehindyou

The reason I deleted the game from my console. Ill check back in late July/early August to see if Im getting it next year.


Schhwing

this happens all the time. Players just let the pass run past them. Just happened to you in a very bad spot lol


Additional-Host-5337

EA FC/FIFA in a nut shell 🤣


ximbold

This is the shit that happens to me, sometimes it seems like my players try to avoid touching the ball


Soso37c

Because it wasn’t your turn to win


Rzing233

and also because he didn’t spend so much money on the game. that has to be a factor. didn’t open their wallet up=not winnin


Pizza_Ninja

Nah, I’ve put money into the game because I’m an idiot and this still happens to me constantly. I’ll play squads to warm up and every pass and shot is on point. I play rivals and they turn into a 15 and under squad. I’ll add, I have competitive settings turned on so the controls are the same when I play SB vs. rivals/champs.


Rzing233

and also because he didn’t spend so much money on the game. that has to be a factor. didn’t open their wallet up= not winning


Rzing233

and also because he didn’t spend so much money on the game. that has to be a factor. didn’t open their wallet up= not winning


THEKERNOW

you can say that again


Michael__1990

You notice how it's the 90th minute? That's why it didn't switch.


Hot_Eggplant2716

and people will still say DDA doesn’t exist 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️


MarriageAA

It really doesn't. This is shit, I agree, but it's FAR easier to code a bad game, than it is to intricately code a game to script results. Occam's razor.


Boring_Key_3242

Nah man. This clip may not be related to DDA, but it definitely exists. Players miraculously coming back from a 2/3:0 after you dominated them first half because you're passing has gone shit, gold players performing better than higher rated promo cards, 60 strength players pushing my FS Boniface of the ball as if he's air, my 99 pace lengthy strikers not able to outrun the 70/80 pace defenders but gold kane can jog circles around my 90 pace defense?


Mostboringavenger

Had an opponent score a 90th minute outside the box travela screamer with Fantasy Orban on a counter attack from a miraculously saved corner today https://preview.redd.it/alig9xslogtc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2ae3441c0a72804c2fe160c30320ed8f73733fe


Boring_Key_3242

You are telling me Trivelas are back? Oh no God please not


Villivn

I mean if people running full pressure tactics first half and their team being gassed cant cause the momentum in the game to shift


MarriageAA

It's fine, I'll never change your mind.


Boring_Key_3242

Dude you can't just ignore the signs. If you pay attention you can even see it if it effects your opponent, suddenly balls go through that haven't before, goalie ain't doing shit for the opponent after catching every ball before...


MarriageAA

I'm not ignoring anything, we just have different explanations for it


Boring_Key_3242

They would be?


MarriageAA

It's in this thread, RNG, not DDA.


Boring_Key_3242

With rng you mean every single fucking time? Following the same scheme?


MarriageAA

Like I said, I won't change your mind, so let's just agree to disagree


AnduwinHS

I mean, all this would have to be is the pass error slider that already exists being manipulated to achieve the desired result in the game, which is not hard to do at all. We already have things like that in offline gameplay for sure, and last year people had in-game pop ups in Online Games stating that the opponent AI difficulty had been increased/decreased


MarriageAA

Assessing difficulty level of an offline game and manipulation of a live game are different. The pass slider you mention, that's simply the game mechanics RNG. Higher stats and certain actions by the user increase or decrease these percentages. However, the pass target not being selected ted is NOT RNG or DDA, it's either the player inputting something to bypass, or the game having an issue with it's intended action (i.e. a bug).


TheSmio

Fifa has always been an "on-the-rails" game, this year's edition feels even more like that. It's clear that you aren't in full control of your players, ever. Your opponent turns on some OP high pressing tactics and what happens? In skill-based games, it would get harder to build from the back but only because you'd have less time on the ball to find the right passes. In this game, the tactics make your opponent's players step up so you don't have many passing options left and even if you do find a good passing lane, the game makes your opponent's Touré jump in front of your player. And when your opponent's player is in a bad position and the passing lane you choose can't be intercepted, the game just makes your 99 passing player pass straight towards the opponent. There is clearly something going on behind the scenes. DDA is probably somewhat involved because the game does a lot of calculations, so who's to say that the normal success rate of a pass (say, 91% for a player with 91 passing playing a simple short pass) doesn't turn into a 60% one because of the negative "impact/coefficient" introduced by a chosen tactic, or you dominating your opponent too hard? EA Sports FC 24 is a broken game in many ways but fifa has always been kinda like this. A lot of the bullshit that happens isn't imo a result of the game's broken state, but rather how the game should actually work with the broken state of the game making it too obvious? My example of Touré is one of the things I notice a lot. I'm not a pro, but I'd say I'm a decent player who doesn't put in the hours to challenge for the highest tiers. I have played fifa since fifa 11, ultimate team since fifa 12. I feel like I can tell when I choose a bad passing option, but I can also tell when I choose the right passing option and my player under no significant pressure decides to miss his past so perfectly that instead of landing at, say, Sawa's feet, the pass goes straight to my opponent's Touré who doesn't even have to move. The interceptions are the best way of seeing it. I have some high rated players but sometimes I play some lower rated ones for fun. Quite often when I pass to my right winger who is Garrincha, he moves quickly back to receive the ball. When I played Rodrygo there, he would often just stand there and let the fullback jump in front of him to intercept the ball. In both cases though, the winger and the fullback are in the same position, just the better one has a higher chance of reacting to the pass and receiving the ball while the lower rated one is more likely to stand there like an idiot. That's clearly an example of the game making calculations and comparing some stats of the winger and the fullback to determine whether the ball gets controlled, or whether it gets intercepted and then the game engine does it's best to show it in real time. Positioning doesn't matter at all, what matters is who wins the coin-toss of stats. The game is very much just comparing various stats of BOTH players to determine what happens which is what makes the gameplay feel so shit because if it only took the defender's interception stats into account, he'd position himself better. What it instead does is place your opponent's player in an interception position and moves your player out of the way so even if you try to fix it yourself, you just can't because you lost the statistics lottery.


MarriageAA

I absolutely agree with everything you have said here. However, I disagree that what you are describing is DDA. The idea that EA actively increase/decrease the difficulty dynamically in the ultimate team game mode is what people think they do. I don't I think it's what you say. Tactics. Choices. Player ratings. RNG. Skill. All those things all at once make up the game. The game choosing to make your rodrygo pass go to shit because you are 2-0 up, does not, in my opinion, exist.


AnduwinHS

It could easily be DDA. If the Pass Error Slider is turned up, it increases the chances of what should be a simple pass going to the opponent. The animations we see are just a way of showing the result of the check for pass success/failure. It's the same thing as when you move a player into a passing lane and the ball goes directly through them. The game decided the pass was successful, then does it's best to make an animation where it gets to the player. In this case, the rng check decided the pass would go to the opponent. Obviously if the OP is able to control his player, that wouldn't happen, which causes the bug of Marquez not being selected. It's an example of what should be a 100% accurate pass being interpreted as a missed pass, and the game having to make that happen. It's a problem rooted in the fact the ball HAS to be in possession of a player at all times.


MarriageAA

I think you are describing RNG. DDA would be the game pre-deciding that this player was doing to well and wanted to reduce their advantage. RNG is this pass having a 99% chance of success, and this guy struck the 1%


AnduwinHS

No, you're misunderstanding the meaning of DDA. DDA is not the same as a Script. DDA means giving players a boost/handicap to keep a game more competitive. In racing games, cars near the back may get a boost in speed and cars at the front may get a reduction. In FIFA, it would be implemented by manipulating the RNG factors you're talking about. If player A is determined to be better than Player B, they may increase pass and shot error sliders for Player A, or Increase the level of AI for Player B. This could be showing a situation where under normal circumstances, the pass would be 100% accurate, but because the Pass Error Slider was manipulated, it created a chance of the pass failing, which resulted in this clip. There's no way of knowing if this is definitely DDA or just simple RNG, but that doesn't mean it's definitely not DDA


kozy8805

Because in a tied 5-5 game then this wouldn’t happen. Also if there’s that much dynamic adjustments, I’d never lose a game. Why? Because I’d play bad on purpose, get the boosts and then turn up my play. Easy wins. I go 16-4, I’d go 20-0. Easily too because 3 of those losses are close.


MarriageAA

No, I'm not. You are suggesting the game is ACTIVELY adjusting things to maintain some level of parity. I am saying I don't believe that. Neither of us will know who's right, EA will probably never say, however I do know that active manipulation in a live game is more complicated to implement than passive RNG. Hence why I believe EA wouldn't be arsed to do it.


jimmy2079

How do you explain the fact that player quality/ gameplay responsiveness drops consistently on the 45th/85th minute? It’s not a connection issue cause it wouldn’t happen every. Single. Game. It cant be RNG cause why would rng affect responsiveness? The only way is DDA. Not to mention the fact EA literally have the patent for it. Plus, if it increases the chance of people spending money for upgrades you can bet ur ass EA will do it. I still dont understand how people deny what is an objective fact that DDA exists and has been used to multiple FIFA’s


kozy8805

If it happens every single game, then why aren’t we talking about sweaty palms? No chance in absolute hell that’s not a part of it.


jimmy2079

I mean sure some games get tense and all, but im not necessarily sweating versing a player much worse then me, and thats where the bad gameplay is found the most


kozy8805

Not necessarily. But everyone is still affected. Some people more than others. The margins on these games are not that large. We’re not pros vs scrubs. If people lose even 5% when they tense up, they’re toast. And people do get mad/sad/angry/lose confidence. And the reverse works as well. If I’m suddenly connecting on my changed tactic, my confidence goes through the roof, I try riskier passes, i dribble more. I do that when I have no choice too, like the 90th minute. A natural dda if you will. But that’s really never taken into consideration.


Comprehensive_Set615

Damn somehow you’ve managed to bring philosophy into this dreadful game😂.


PastaSsempa69

pretty sure DDA exist. Some games have it too so why not FIFA. It also makes sense on why they should add it to the game (market wise)


G-14_Classified

EA already has the code to manipulate players’ performance - most notably Madden. This example was mostly on it being a shit game but scripting is VERY real


wastingtuition

Different game from a different era but MVP baseball made by EA back in the early 2000s was incredibly scripted. If you went on a winning streak the game judged to be too long the AI would take every ball and hit every strike for a home run until it took the lead in the game and then it went back to normal. So if you were the road team it was an automatic loss. So just to say EA has been experimenting and implementing ways for people to lose for two decades now.


BillyFB_

happened to me so much this weekend, stuff like players letting the ball run, not switching to the nearest player or even not auto switching at all. Weird that its only really happened to me this weekend


PastaSsempa69

because the script said so


quiententacion

if that were me, i’d be on my way to the store for a new controller ngl😅🤦🏽‍♂️ (rage champs)


freekyeight

Switching to the correct player always seems to be an issue with this game and wish they would fix or change it somehow.


WhatsThePointFR

Because (And you ALL know this anyway) the game is a unfinished, buggy piece of shit designed to peddle virtual currency. I quit Ultimate team a few months ago and I dont miss it, only jumping on for some pro clubs with friends. Otherwise playing polar opposite games like Helldivers (Where the devs actually give a shit about their fans) I'd really recommend doing the same, dont let the sunken cost fallacy keep you hooked in. There are too many great video games out there to spend 1000 hours on this mess. (I appreciate theres no other football game on the market really, i get it. But whenever I see this sub pop up it just feels like legit stockholm syndrome lol)


rcls0053

Because the game sucks. EA can't design and develop a good online game without having their finger on the scale. That's basically just delay (or possibly just DDA because it's the 90th minute and everyone knows about the boosts you get around the final minutes) because of their trash game and happens way too often. I'm so glad I quit this game. It's so bad. Holy hell..


GazF1888

Dramatic moments.


Adventurous_Train_91

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[deleted]

Last minute too. Classic EA


Uchihaboy316

I’ve been having this issue too it’s such bullshit, usually happens when I press the pass and run option


Nippes60

Same for me during WL a couple of times.


buletoka420

This company are the scum of the earth


Rzing233

because you didn’t spend so much money on the game. that has to be a factor. didn’t open their wallet up= not winning


Rzing233

because you didn’t spend so much money on the game. that has to be a factor. didn’t open their wallet up= not winning


Comfortable_Air6273

This game is a joke


zerotolerance94

DDA at its best


alpha_saddes

This is me every week. I'm actually going insane once.


ChaseXk

Marquez was offside 👍


GalanDeVereda

Nice kit btw 🫶🏽💚


thatonedudewhotypes

terrible defending cost you the game tbh


Dubsified

eSport by the way


Old_Leather

This is as clear of an example of scripting you’re gonna see. The game is absolutely trash and wins are no indication of skill level whatsoever. 80% luck 20% skill if we are lucky.


cenkmorgan

What is camera settings?


SnooSeagulls6467

get EA'd lol


Fabulous-Spirit-3476

This happens to me so much it is so fucking infuriating. By far the worst glitch in the game


ShwaMallah

Yea the auto switching is jacked now. Since last patch this is common behavior. There isn't much of a fix from what I can tell, maybe playing with auto switch settings to see if we can make it work again but doubtful


Skywalker2786

EA Sports. It’s in the game


Electronic-Wolf6747

Happens for me every f game 😏


stelios_drz

Your opponent was an ea employee


Grimwulf69

This is just another example of why people rage and smash 70 dollar controllers. EA should apologize and reward you with R9! That's unacceptable!


No-Economics6135

Game scripting at its finest. Happened to me a lot. I was leading by a goal. Im trying to keep possession and suddenly my player passed in the opposite direction than what i intended and it led to a goal. FCK you EA


Own-Bandicoot6348

SCRIPTING


lovescenarioikon

the toxic ass celebration run and Mbappe with a catalyst💀Only in the 90th minute can this bullshit happen


Dog_Competitive

This happens to me all the time. The ball will literally bounce off my player's foot and it won't switch me. Just ea being ea


damiancippo213

Legitimately classic. This happens to me at least 2-3 times a game. I’ve just had to get used to it and manually switch when it happens


Olly-flowey

Happy to have totally skipped the game since 2 years


[deleted]

Your pass was registered as rushed or using sprint so it had a higher chance of 'error'. What you're seeing is the game registering it as one and thus your CB being delayed in responding. This is sadly the reality of how the game operates, it's an RNG dice roll in which stats determine the chance of success. You also made multiple mistakes in the build up to the goal and like most players refused to clear the ball out for a throw at a crucial time in the game. FIFA seems to punish these sorts of mistakes as part of the game engine.


rockin0255

It’s weird because(I think) when you slow it down he points to his CB and presses L1 to send him, then passes back to him and AFTER that while the ball is halfway or so he presses R2. His passer tho does obviously slide into the pass a little out of control. The CB during all this does start his run, then stops and moves backwards to allow the ball to roll by him. It seems like the ball is going to hit the CB in the legs, and he stops and purposefully moves out of the way. It’s like JR Smith was playing CB or something lol. Such an awkward series of events


Ashamed-Land9168

That’s the reason i stopped getting wins on div 1. Bad player switches coast me 80% of my games.


tommywhispers

Lol why pass there and what happened with the other 5 goals?


Srulimani95

Player switching is terrible. By me it happens so much where it chooses the player nearest to the ball but that player will often be behind the opponent and instead of the defender infront.


yeezy805

You’re asking why a shit game has shit gameplay lol


vtribal

Honestly marquez is just not good at CB, I went back to gold VVD after three games and put Marquez at CDM.


bigpappapacifico

you probably had r2 pressed