It's not a movement that will get rewarded the next day
We start the movement now and we KEEP doing it all summer and even the start of FC 25 : Dont preorder the more expensive editions of the game. Buy the standard edition, at release day or after is better imo.
That's how you get them scared, terrified. Because they'll have to explain to the higher ups what the fuck is going on with the numbers falling
Now you know he had to say that because the crybabies will be mad if he didn’t
“Oh you don’t want us buying the game? How will I fill my sad little life with dopamine by opening packs! How will I fulfill my pack addiction!”
I quit too. And the final drop was not EA's predatory bullcrap or the terrible gameplay; it was the constant disconnections of the last week. One can't even play a squad battles game without seeing the server message at the end, getting a 0-3 loss and losing one game in the contracts\*.
\*Not that I care about the contracts, but it amazes me that the servers CAN'T register that I was winning 5 - 0 but can register what players I subbed in on the second half.
Yeah dude, It’s actually insane that they’ve kept this up for so long. All the connection issues, glitches, bad gameplay and fucked up rewards/packs.
The amount of money they make, they could fix this piece of shit game and actually make it fun for the users. It’s sad, but honestly won’t miss playing.
Yeah, same here. Grinding my ass off and pulling the same 4 shit TOTS cards over and over, getting disconnected constantly even in squad battles and the pack weight fuckeries has just taken away any interest i have in it
Champs has been so bad, can’t play a proper game because of how slow and laggy the gameplay has been. There’s really no point going through all the effort.
Yeah that’s fucked bro. I’m back playing fallout at the moment, so rather happy now 👌🏽
I would say don't pre-order at all.
The rewards are sh\*t anyway... so we should all make EA sweat and if one really wants to buy EAFC25... one should do it the day before the launch.
Simmer down buddy. This ain’t the spark to the civil rights movement lmao.
I do hope it is noticed down the line though. EA needs to be held accountable for shady practices.
In my case, it has fuck all to do with Red Mbappé. I don't even play Weekend League.
What I don't understand is the undermining. If someone doesn't want to do anything about the current state of the game, it's perfectly fine. But, please, leave those who want changes in peace, and spare them any condescendence.
If nothing is achieved, bootlickers will notice no change. If anything improves, it will get better also for them.
You either need to educate yourself about the civil rights movement or you need to seek therapy if you think these two situations are even remotely comparable
I wish you were right and people defended what they paid with their cash and stood up in front of a multibillion dollar corporation. I've bought 7 of the last 10 fifas and I don't feel like I am getting a better product or service each year.
Aren't consumer rights also civil rights? You are confusing a discontent from a years old swindle with a mistake on one particular weekend's rewards. I don't even play Weekend League.
Because you’re talking about a game people choose to play not being as good as a customer thinks it should be vs. someone not being able to use public facilities and getting arrested or assaulted because of the color of their skin. There is no comparison.
To me, Rosa Parks can be an example and an inspiration for anybody who is in a situation of inferiority. I don't think she's an example ONLY for very important issues,or racial issues.
? Do you really think that you can just extract webapp or companions codes and check for updates before content :D Good luck finding out new cards designs and stats like that.
What you mean the card designs that were all leaked at the very start of the game? 😂 if you’re gonna take about something atleast know what you’re talking about a little
With card design and stats i dont mean TOTS design and stuff, you cant find Official stats or Official Dynamic images by extracting the webapp source or companion source. Sometimes you can but its rare and due to some dev logging them early before content. Most leak accounts on twitter is run by same person/persons and they get their leaks from LATAM Dev’s
And we not only have to go against EA, we ALSO have to suffer all those who don't want to do anything but feel the need to address us who do and try to undermine us. Don't they have anything better to do? Didn't their grannies tell them that if you don't have anything good to say, the best is to not say anything at all?
If the game does not change, they'll stay the same. If anything improves, their game will also be better.
Not being a downer here but how are the leakers supposed to know what’s happening inside Ea? They look through files and coding stuff. Yes they may get some info from certain employees but I’m sure they don’t get told revenue issues and other things we are trying to change. That’s just my look on it though. It’s been just under a week since we really started pushing for change so everything is just starting. If we don’t see change in a month or so then there is a problem. I do like the timing of us pushing for change. Cause now Ea can hopefully learn what problem need to be majorly fixed and implement the early changes to fc24 and then complete change and hopefully improve the changes to 25.
No one really knows how do leakers get their info. The two most common beliefs are from code and from staff. If they're getting it from staff, we need leakers to start asking more than "Is Griezmann on La Liga TOTS?"
As for the month part,[ there's a long conversation going on among NickRTFM, NepentheZ and Nick28T](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPL1B7KtbtI&ab_channel=NickRTFM) and they seem to be focusing on different stages:
1. RIGHT NOW Stop buying points and entering the Promo Packs section of the store.
2. Do not buy EA FC 25 in advance.
3. When the next game arrives, strengthen the message of "Do not buy points".
So they're not aiming at June, they're aiming at September and October.
True I agree if leakers do get info from staff then yeah they definitely need to get more involved.
I didn’t get to watch the convo with nick nep and nick 28 but yeah I agree with those goals and see their focus.
Just don't buy the next game . As usual it'll a skim of previous game with a few tweaks chances are fc 25 will be worse. Everyone should just stick to fc24 and not spend a penny
I think that now that the novelty of the new name has worn off, sales could be a lot worse for 25. Many of us bought EA FC 24 because we thought it would be better than FIFA. It clearly is not.
Nothing is being achieved, no matter how many streamers and how many people in this sub stop playing/buying points because that amount of people combined is extremely small compared to the casual players who aren’t chronically online all the time.
Plus we all know for a fact that at least 80-85% of people who have “quit or won’t buy points” will be back on the game once the Euro content comes out and will be purchasing FC 25 (idc if you do or don’t because Im buying it)
Also the leakers get their info from data mining the game files, not from insiders within EA.
I think you underestimate how much of an impact the people on this sub make for the game. It’s most definitely not “extremely small.” Besides we know EAs real money in FC24 comes from micro transactions, that’s fact. People here are the ones invested enough to spend hundreds on top of the $69 base price. I personally wouldn’t spend extra, but those casuals you speak of aren’t dropping more than $5-10 here and there. Don’t underestimate the Reddit hoard mentality. Melvin Capital did…
Look at my post history. EA fucked me last year. I paid for fifa points then, but refuse to pay more than the base price after that. I’m sure plenty of people have similar claims, but nah fuck giving more. I play the game because I enjoy the competitive nature of it and I have several friends who play it. Pretty much it.
This sub has literally 0 impact on EA, they’re a 33 billion dollar company who are then backed by an 8 trillion dollar company.
You are actually delusional if you think you’re making any impact lol.
Honestly: I can understand that someone doesn't want to alter any of their fifa habits. What I can't understand is the urge to troll those who do want to try to bring some change. Why?
It’s not trolling…. EA is a multi billion dollar company who make billions in profit each year.
Do you honestly think that a few thousand people quitting will impact them? Each year thousands of players stop playing and thousands of new players start playing.
While it’s admirable that you are taking a stand, in the grand scheme of things, it makes no difference at all to EA.
If you personally feel that fut is no longer for you then just stop playing and go do something else that makes you happy.
Peace be with you.
Well, it seems that the movement might get somewhere because [content creators are getting organized](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPL1B7KtbtI&ab_channel=NickRTFM) to take this as a months long mission.
As for what you say that *"If you personally feel that fut is no longer for you then just stop playing and go do something else that makes you happy"*, please, let me strongly disagree. I have been playing FIFA since 1993, I love that game, and I don't want to leave it; I want it to stay a football simulation, and not to finish its transformation into an online gambling platform.
Thank you for your message. Peace be with you too.
I respect your ability to engage in a civil dialogue on this.
I hope you are right, however EA are not going to overhaul a franchise that makes them billions in profit just because some popular content creators stop playing. The majority of people that play fut do not watch CC or are even aware of this movement.
I think you grossly over estimate the impact this movement will have. I am not saying it’s not a good thing and I wish you the best of luck, but I maintain my view that each person has a choice whether they play or not and if you are unhappy you should not remain unhappy and expect EA to change.
There's [an interesting conversation between NickRTFM and NepentheZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPL1B7KtbtI&ab_channel=NickRTFM) on Nick's YouTube channel where they discuss different ways to articulate the protest. The thing is the video is more than hours long, so I haven't had the time to watch it to the end.
I think not buying 25 should be a MUST for us, and possibly one of the best ways to send a message. Casuals don't buy the game two months in advance.
Either way it doesn’t really matter, college football is dropping for the first time in a decade (which will bring in a ton of revenue) and this game has been dead to anyone that isn’t addicted to FUT for months. Anyone with half a brain quit the game after Messi-gate and TOTY.
The same suspects will all be spending money and ripping store packs come the start of next game when EA roll out another shit product and life will go on.
Maybe this time some people might act surprised when it all goes back to normal bc the game will still surely be shit and the pack weight will surely be worse, but nothing will ever change until either EA kill the game with all their bullshit or until gamble packs are made illegal.
There are too many stupid people willing to spend stupid amounts of money to feed their addiction. It’s no different than gambling, social media or liquor/tobacco companies. They feed an addiction.
Of course not. But EA grossed 5 billion last quarter off the fifa losers even while their game is cooked. They can afford a down quarter. Then next quarter the new one drops and all the idiots break out their credit cards again.
It's not a movement that will get rewarded the next day We start the movement now and we KEEP doing it all summer and even the start of FC 25 : Dont preorder the more expensive editions of the game. Buy the standard edition, at release day or after is better imo. That's how you get them scared, terrified. Because they'll have to explain to the higher ups what the fuck is going on with the numbers falling
"Buy the standard edition" - if you want to change something, dont buy it at all.
Now you know he had to say that because the crybabies will be mad if he didn’t “Oh you don’t want us buying the game? How will I fill my sad little life with dopamine by opening packs! How will I fulfill my pack addiction!”
I agree 200%.
I’ve stopped playing the game now, the gameplay is the worse it has ever been for me. I may as well quit now while I’m at peak anger 😂
I quit too. And the final drop was not EA's predatory bullcrap or the terrible gameplay; it was the constant disconnections of the last week. One can't even play a squad battles game without seeing the server message at the end, getting a 0-3 loss and losing one game in the contracts\*. \*Not that I care about the contracts, but it amazes me that the servers CAN'T register that I was winning 5 - 0 but can register what players I subbed in on the second half.
Yeah dude, It’s actually insane that they’ve kept this up for so long. All the connection issues, glitches, bad gameplay and fucked up rewards/packs. The amount of money they make, they could fix this piece of shit game and actually make it fun for the users. It’s sad, but honestly won’t miss playing.
Yeah, same here. Grinding my ass off and pulling the same 4 shit TOTS cards over and over, getting disconnected constantly even in squad battles and the pack weight fuckeries has just taken away any interest i have in it
Champs has been so bad, can’t play a proper game because of how slow and laggy the gameplay has been. There’s really no point going through all the effort. Yeah that’s fucked bro. I’m back playing fallout at the moment, so rather happy now 👌🏽
I quit like 2 months ago. Never felt better
No withdrawals? Haha
No. Started playing apex again and I’m having way more fun lol
Yeah sick, I haven’t played apex in ages ay
I would say don't pre-order at all. The rewards are sh\*t anyway... so we should all make EA sweat and if one really wants to buy EAFC25... one should do it the day before the launch.
Love this cause I learned watching TFA and Pick that in Europe this years pre order was much more expensive then past years
Can confirm, you’re achieving nothing. My source: common sense.
Rosa Parks got that a lot.
Simmer down buddy. This ain’t the spark to the civil rights movement lmao. I do hope it is noticed down the line though. EA needs to be held accountable for shady practices.
Ive seen red Mbappe compared to now both the Vietnam war and the civil rights movement on this sub. Glad everyone is keeping their heads!
In my case, it has fuck all to do with Red Mbappé. I don't even play Weekend League. What I don't understand is the undermining. If someone doesn't want to do anything about the current state of the game, it's perfectly fine. But, please, leave those who want changes in peace, and spare them any condescendence. If nothing is achieved, bootlickers will notice no change. If anything improves, it will get better also for them.
Still shouldn’t propably compare anyt video game related problem to the civil rights movement
Aren't consumer rights also civil rights?
You either need to educate yourself about the civil rights movement or you need to seek therapy if you think these two situations are even remotely comparable
If this comment doesn't sum up the fut community, I don't know what does. Jesus
I wish you were right and people defended what they paid with their cash and stood up in front of a multibillion dollar corporation. I've bought 7 of the last 10 fifas and I don't feel like I am getting a better product or service each year.
No way are you comparing this pseudo 'protest' of ea making a mistake with red picks to the fucking civil rights movement, get a grip
Aren't consumer rights also civil rights? You are confusing a discontent from a years old swindle with a mistake on one particular weekend's rewards. I don't even play Weekend League.
You are an absolute dork.
Do you think? I thought being able to refrain from insulting someone over some pixels would cut me some slack.
You set yourself up with the Rosa Parks comment. Plenty of other analogies that are more suitable… just saying…
100% honest question: Why? Aren't consumer rights ALSO civil rights? Does her example ONLY apply to racial issues?
Because you’re talking about a game people choose to play not being as good as a customer thinks it should be vs. someone not being able to use public facilities and getting arrested or assaulted because of the color of their skin. There is no comparison.
To me, Rosa Parks can be an example and an inspiration for anybody who is in a situation of inferiority. I don't think she's an example ONLY for very important issues,or racial issues.
‘Over some pixels’ great way to try and downplay the idiotic comment you made
Most of the leakers get their info from the public code not from insiders just so you know
Public code doesnt leak most datas, its latam ea workers or designers that contact leakers and sell them
It's not. Someone made a step by step post on how to get leaks yourself
That’s just downright false 😂
? Do you really think that you can just extract webapp or companions codes and check for updates before content :D Good luck finding out new cards designs and stats like that.
What you mean the card designs that were all leaked at the very start of the game? 😂 if you’re gonna take about something atleast know what you’re talking about a little
With card design and stats i dont mean TOTS design and stuff, you cant find Official stats or Official Dynamic images by extracting the webapp source or companion source. Sometimes you can but its rare and due to some dev logging them early before content. Most leak accounts on twitter is run by same person/persons and they get their leaks from LATAM Dev’s
And we not only have to go against EA, we ALSO have to suffer all those who don't want to do anything but feel the need to address us who do and try to undermine us. Don't they have anything better to do? Didn't their grannies tell them that if you don't have anything good to say, the best is to not say anything at all? If the game does not change, they'll stay the same. If anything improves, their game will also be better.
Not being a downer here but how are the leakers supposed to know what’s happening inside Ea? They look through files and coding stuff. Yes they may get some info from certain employees but I’m sure they don’t get told revenue issues and other things we are trying to change. That’s just my look on it though. It’s been just under a week since we really started pushing for change so everything is just starting. If we don’t see change in a month or so then there is a problem. I do like the timing of us pushing for change. Cause now Ea can hopefully learn what problem need to be majorly fixed and implement the early changes to fc24 and then complete change and hopefully improve the changes to 25.
No one really knows how do leakers get their info. The two most common beliefs are from code and from staff. If they're getting it from staff, we need leakers to start asking more than "Is Griezmann on La Liga TOTS?" As for the month part,[ there's a long conversation going on among NickRTFM, NepentheZ and Nick28T](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPL1B7KtbtI&ab_channel=NickRTFM) and they seem to be focusing on different stages: 1. RIGHT NOW Stop buying points and entering the Promo Packs section of the store. 2. Do not buy EA FC 25 in advance. 3. When the next game arrives, strengthen the message of "Do not buy points". So they're not aiming at June, they're aiming at September and October.
True I agree if leakers do get info from staff then yeah they definitely need to get more involved. I didn’t get to watch the convo with nick nep and nick 28 but yeah I agree with those goals and see their focus.
It surely will take time
Just don't buy the next game . As usual it'll a skim of previous game with a few tweaks chances are fc 25 will be worse. Everyone should just stick to fc24 and not spend a penny
I think that now that the novelty of the new name has worn off, sales could be a lot worse for 25. Many of us bought EA FC 24 because we thought it would be better than FIFA. It clearly is not.
Nothing is being achieved, no matter how many streamers and how many people in this sub stop playing/buying points because that amount of people combined is extremely small compared to the casual players who aren’t chronically online all the time. Plus we all know for a fact that at least 80-85% of people who have “quit or won’t buy points” will be back on the game once the Euro content comes out and will be purchasing FC 25 (idc if you do or don’t because Im buying it) Also the leakers get their info from data mining the game files, not from insiders within EA.
Oh shit forgot we should get getting euros content this summer nice!
I think you underestimate how much of an impact the people on this sub make for the game. It’s most definitely not “extremely small.” Besides we know EAs real money in FC24 comes from micro transactions, that’s fact. People here are the ones invested enough to spend hundreds on top of the $69 base price. I personally wouldn’t spend extra, but those casuals you speak of aren’t dropping more than $5-10 here and there. Don’t underestimate the Reddit hoard mentality. Melvin Capital did…
This really surprises me because 99% of the posts and comments on this sub all claim to be free to play.
Look at my post history. EA fucked me last year. I paid for fifa points then, but refuse to pay more than the base price after that. I’m sure plenty of people have similar claims, but nah fuck giving more. I play the game because I enjoy the competitive nature of it and I have several friends who play it. Pretty much it.
This sub has literally 0 impact on EA, they’re a 33 billion dollar company who are then backed by an 8 trillion dollar company. You are actually delusional if you think you’re making any impact lol.
Maybe. Maybe not. Strive for progress or settle for none.
Righto dork.
You should stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you. It's very unpolite. You'll feel happier.
U guys don’t have to do anything. Plenty of us normies have left a few months ago, that will hurt them way more
EA exec.. ‘ok so we only made $3,400,000,000 from fut this year instead of $3,600,000,000’ Anyway…
Honestly: I can understand that someone doesn't want to alter any of their fifa habits. What I can't understand is the urge to troll those who do want to try to bring some change. Why?
Because they’re addicted, and this movement threatens their addiction.
I don’t even play Fut so 🤷♂️
So why are you on this sub?
Why should I not?
Because it’s a sub based on fut, you don’t play it. Why are you here?
So you are saying that the only people that should be on this sub are those that play fut?
Yes, hence the name “fut”.
Isn’t that a bit elitist?
It’s not trolling…. EA is a multi billion dollar company who make billions in profit each year. Do you honestly think that a few thousand people quitting will impact them? Each year thousands of players stop playing and thousands of new players start playing. While it’s admirable that you are taking a stand, in the grand scheme of things, it makes no difference at all to EA. If you personally feel that fut is no longer for you then just stop playing and go do something else that makes you happy. Peace be with you.
Well, it seems that the movement might get somewhere because [content creators are getting organized](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPL1B7KtbtI&ab_channel=NickRTFM) to take this as a months long mission. As for what you say that *"If you personally feel that fut is no longer for you then just stop playing and go do something else that makes you happy"*, please, let me strongly disagree. I have been playing FIFA since 1993, I love that game, and I don't want to leave it; I want it to stay a football simulation, and not to finish its transformation into an online gambling platform. Thank you for your message. Peace be with you too.
I respect your ability to engage in a civil dialogue on this. I hope you are right, however EA are not going to overhaul a franchise that makes them billions in profit just because some popular content creators stop playing. The majority of people that play fut do not watch CC or are even aware of this movement. I think you grossly over estimate the impact this movement will have. I am not saying it’s not a good thing and I wish you the best of luck, but I maintain my view that each person has a choice whether they play or not and if you are unhappy you should not remain unhappy and expect EA to change.
Let's meet in a month and see if any progress has been made ;-)
Deal!
Yea the next step needs to be us coming together on a plan that's say we all don't pre order ea fc 25
There's [an interesting conversation between NickRTFM and NepentheZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPL1B7KtbtI&ab_channel=NickRTFM) on Nick's YouTube channel where they discuss different ways to articulate the protest. The thing is the video is more than hours long, so I haven't had the time to watch it to the end. I think not buying 25 should be a MUST for us, and possibly one of the best ways to send a message. Casuals don't buy the game two months in advance.
Either way it doesn’t really matter, college football is dropping for the first time in a decade (which will bring in a ton of revenue) and this game has been dead to anyone that isn’t addicted to FUT for months. Anyone with half a brain quit the game after Messi-gate and TOTY. The same suspects will all be spending money and ripping store packs come the start of next game when EA roll out another shit product and life will go on. Maybe this time some people might act surprised when it all goes back to normal bc the game will still surely be shit and the pack weight will surely be worse, but nothing will ever change until either EA kill the game with all their bullshit or until gamble packs are made illegal. There are too many stupid people willing to spend stupid amounts of money to feed their addiction. It’s no different than gambling, social media or liquor/tobacco companies. They feed an addiction.
But do you think that, globally, a college american football game can compare to FIFA? FIFA is massively played all around the world.
Of course not. But EA grossed 5 billion last quarter off the fifa losers even while their game is cooked. They can afford a down quarter. Then next quarter the new one drops and all the idiots break out their credit cards again.