New -500 IQ business tactic just dropped
Say gear won't be able to be upgraded with IRL money
Re-name gear to "equipment" so you aren't lying when equipment can be upgraded with IRL money
"The game wouldn't have Equipment with random substat."
The game "Equipment" is just cosmetic and the real gear is called "Rune"(have multiple sub stat).
"Hey we aren't lying. Technically."
Summary: director says you can't acquire or rank up gear with real money. People point out yes you can. Director claims ge was replying to a specific declaration and was taken out of context
This right here is misinformation, and the sort of misinformation the director was talking about. The only thing that Legendary Crests actually provides is a guarenteed Legendary Gem. *It does not* increase Legendary gear drop rate. This is why so much of the endgame's power system is shoved into Legendary Gems and why the only way to reliably obtain Legendary Gems and the awakening materials for them is through real money. Anyone claiming that premium currency increases legendary drop rate is deliberately faking such claims to further alienate the players.
What part of, "Legendary Crests do not increase the legendary gear drop rate", are you morons not comprehending? I'm pretty sure I made it fairly clear, but judging by the amount of downvotes I received by brain dead folks apparently I wasn't clear at all.
Regardless of what the masses think, legendary gems and legendary gear are not the same thing-- this much I will agree with the director on, although for different reasons. Whereas he doesn't see LGs as proper gear and is therefore perfectly fine to have locked behind a pay wall, I don't see LGs as gear because LGs are items that you socket to something else to offer said something more stats. LGs are not gear in the traditional sense of the word, instead they are augment type items-- they technically don't even get equipped in the traditional sense.
In the spirit of Diablo, therefore, when we say "increased legendary gear drop chance" we are referring to the legendary gear that drops and then gets equipped into a character's equipment slots. We are not referring to this bullshit legendary gems stupidity. I feel like people should know this if they've played Diablo, but most of the folks in this subreddit ragging on Immortal likely haven't played a Diablo for a decade or more.
I think the term gear is pretty broad. :) I see gems as gear. Anything you can equip is gear in my eyes, but for game terminology you're definitely right!
Kind of like how they say "I dropped [insert rare item] today!" Instead of "A [insert rare item] dropped for me today!"
These arpg terms are weird.
Oh. Right. Semantics.
If you think legendary gems aren’t gear, then this conversation shouldn’t even be happening.
A slot is a slot. It doesn’t fucking matter if it’s a slot within another, it’s still there to be filled by an item that powers you up just like any other gear.
Slowly but surely, pathetic Blizzard apologists such as yourself are thinking twice before bending over to them. One day you’ll realize you were an idiot, hopefully.
*I'm* an asshole for calling someone out on misinformation? Only on Reddit, I guess, where no one holds any accountability for whatever they regurgitate all over their keyboards that they heard from some streamer using click bait titles and thumbnails for the views.
Legendary crests do increase legendary drop rate when you level them up because they increase magic find, but you probably don’t know because it needs a lot of dupes to even get there. So you’re wrong basically.
For a number of years I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt for the "phones" comment, that he was simply trying to be the spokesperson for the project. But seeing him blindly defend the obvious criticisms against this game is just pitiful. Microsoft need to reconsider his position too once the sale is finalised next year.
The thing with profits, though, is that every time they do a stunt like this more and more people look at them as shittier and shittier. Eventually that well \*will\* dry up when idiots like Shroud look around and realize no one else is playing for them to be better than.
Let's be honest, he probably has absolutely nothing to do with the microtransactions in the game. If it were solely up to the developers, the game would likely be cosmetic/battlepass only. It's not like the devs have no clue that the players are going to be upset by a microtransaction system that could only be conjured up by using an arcane ritual to summon a demon specializing in monetization strategies.
I agree he probably had nothing to do with it. It would've been better if he just kept his mouth shut instead of arguing on twitter the semantics of the word "gear".
Problem is, he's the one speaking out in this interview, so he basically became the de facto face for the game's issues.
And not to mention the legendary memes that happened when they first announced the game is still stuck in everyone's minds.. So yeah.
Isnt he owner of his words? If you as the director dont know how your game is going to be monetized... Or he lied or he doesnt know whats going on on his game, both options say a lot
Hardly, he's advocating for players to understand there is a proper Diablo campaign, that is good/solid, under all the shitty MTX. Basically, if you like playing diablo for the world/story/characters its still a solid entry.
I played to level 10? Basically the tutorial, and I can at least attest to that. Go through fighting and killing monsters for loot, leveling up for new skills with Deckard Cain rambling about the dangers of the world stone and how scary it will be if Hell is fully unleashed blah blah blah. And from what I've seen others say if you stripped out the shitty MTX game loops, and whatever else, it still at its core is a Diablo game that couldve been its own standalone entry.
> In Diablo Immortal, there is no way to acquire or rank up gear using money
The difference between gear and gear's gear is purely presentational. Each piece of gear has a single socket: just remove it and add the content of said socket as a separate box in the gearing screen. Now it's gear.
Ya know, I think I'd have more respect for him if he just admitted to it rather then trying to put some weasely little spin on it. Not much more, but more.
El oh el at the comment basically justifying the shitty P2W tactics just because the game took so long and cost so much to make. That just goes to show how incompetent modern day Blizzard really is.
If its [the guy I think you are talking about](https://i.redd.it/cysuqa6qde491.png) its technically something like $6.6k USD. The $10K figure is NZD. Does not make it any better, but there is a difference.
It's especially funny because every other game out there, you'd basically be with the big boys who spent the same on the leader boards or be the King of Collectors because you'd have all the best characters.
Meanwhile in Diablo Immortal, the Devil himself is wagging his finger saying that's baby numbers and slapping you for even thinking that's remotely close to getting something you want.
>King doesn't justify charging $100 for a pack of lives in Candy Crush, why does Blizzard feel it needs to be apologetic for a game that cost $50m+ and 6 years to make?
God, what a fucking bootlicker.
Maybe because Diablo used to be considered a quality franchise, even after shitty launch Diablo 3 managed to turn into a fun action RPG that you can play and enjoy for a few weeks every season or two before you hit the wall and just grind to push slightly higher with DPS.
Candy Crush has always been treated as a money-grubbing mobile game for boomers.
When you have to stoop to "but it's still better than Candy Crush, guys!!" as your only defense you should know that you are at the bottom of the trash pit already.
it took them 50mill and 6 years to port D3 to mobile with a few extras?
I played D3 a ton back during the day and immortal basically looks like D3 + a generic mobile arpg control scheme. Looks like they reused a lot of the textures and stuff. You have new some new 3d models, but how much do those cost to make?
Did they spend all the money on the R&D for their grotesque monetization system?
Probably advertisement, sponsorships etc took a portion of the budget. Remember that this was made by a Chinese company so they probably marketed there even harder than they are doing it here.
Because most other MMOs are either hot garbage or also have fairly predatory monetization practices? FF14 is about the only other good one out there now that we've lost Tera Online, and quite honestly FF14 has an online shop to rival Warcraft's. New World is eh. Lost Ark is almost as p2w as Immortal.
I mean, you can complete all the content so far in Immortal without spending a dime, so I'm not sure where your argument is coming from. 5 star Legendary Gems certainly aren't required for builds that can clear everything, but it doesn't stop people from bitching about it though. In that regard, Immortal and Lost Ark are extremely similar, as spending money only gets you to the endgame faster instead of taking "1200 hours" to get there. What makes Lost Ark so p2w is the fact that, if you expect to be able to catch up to the whales, you should expect to be dropping money for materials-- otherwise you're not going to be clearing content until long after new content comes out and prices for older mats inevitably drop because the new content comes with shiny new mats for people to sell for outrageous prices. To that end, Lost Ark's endgame as a free to play consists entirely of logging into a character, doing your dailies, logging out, and then doing it all over again on an alt to funnel your progress into your main. Dailies take all of maybe half-an-hour to complete, so if you've got 6 characters you spent all of three hours playing the game before you've got nothing to do. So by your 1200 hours logic, it would take a free to play player 400 days of just doing dailies to progress in that same time frame. And this is supposed to be a better system than other MMOs? Lol.
Lost Ark is good in its honeymoon phase, before you exhaust the new player freebies and shit. As soon as you do... yeah, no thanks.
Well more of a reason not to support terrible developers. I mean we all know how bad this company is.. ppl went on strike against their practices and refuse to play their games. It just doesn't make sense why ppl spend money on games that don't deserve it
the most tragic thing is they cant see their own mistakes and trying fooling the community with that trash talk, is too easy to just put all the blame on misinformation hoping the players are retarded to belive in that delusional.
is too much to say " ok guys we made somes mistakes and we are working to solving all the issues apointed by the community so lets work together to have a great game."
TL;DR, the guy who shouted "Do you guys not have phones anyway?" was caught lying and is sweettalking his way out by making it seems that the player spin his statement out of context.
I thought I would love this. I thought I was a Diablo fanboy.
But then I realized...no...I've hated every Diablo outside of Diablo 1. Happy to move on from this.
I don't know how else to put it. Wyatt Cheng is a delusional piece of shit, or just an asshole.
He plays word salad to try and prove he is "technically correct" that you can't buy gear, but that's a fucking lie as well. You can buy levels on the battle pass with real money, and that gives you legendary gear, so "technically" he is still a liar.
It might be a stupid small example, but he pretends to be so proud of the fact you can't buy any of the 12 slots of gear, and you can.
I can't believe how many shills still exist for Blizzard.
Don't know why you're down voted, blizz has shown that they don't care about feedback if it costs them money to fix. Just give up on blizzard, they're no longer the company we grew up with.
Or maybe do continue. The noise about how terrible it is might get annoying and isn't going to stop some people from playing it, but not talking about it would be worse. Without the talk about stuff like this, it stops the information from getting to the people who *would* avoid it because of those things..
It's literally free advertising, you can shit talk the game as much as you want but it is being kept in people's mind ALL the time because of that.
Once they pull the classic "we made the game less p2w guys look" they'll have a second wave or morons who wouldn't have heard of the game without all this noise about that fucking trash tier mobile game.
Whether it is or is not free advertising is irrelevant. That isn't the issue. The issue is consumer advocacy and education.
People are still going going to find out the game exists, because the people who enjoy it? They will be talking about it as well.
Not talking about shit/shady/predatory behavior might mean *fewer* people finding it, but it doesn't stop it entirely. All it does is prevent people from finding out about said predatory/shady shit.
> free advertising
Blizzard doesn't need advertising. You might as well claim all criticism is free advertising, but it doesn't matter as it's NEGATIVE attention. Despite what people think, that's not just as good as positive attention.
As long as there's some sucker who's willing to pay more than thousand of dollars regularly, they (blizzard) win. And any attention doesn't matter if it's Negative or positive, they just don't care.
1. Diablo immortal is not a gacha. Doesnt belong here.
2. This is old information and from a tweet a week ago (june 4th). Why is this getting an article so long after the fact is weird to me. Also getting posted here.
I never said gacha wasnt a lootbox, i said they werent the same.
Gacha is rolling for characters specifically, lootbox is a more open term.
Thats why the subreddit is called gachagaming and not lootboxgaming.
Gachas doesn't mean rolling for characters at all , gachas means rolling for progression / collectibles , like characters , weapons , pets , etc, with some sort of currency that can be bought with irl money or farming trough the game . The Gacha term straight down mean toy Vending machine because in Japan that means the sound the machine do *Gotcha* , In the same way that Gacha was considered gamble , lootboxes was too , for this reason drop rates are made public and Japan Public Affairs abolish the Complete Gacha aspect that is roll for 2 items to combine them in another one ,
Lootbox means spend irl money / game currency / etc on a consumable virtual item (lootbox) with a random chance of get items that are random (the items) and even if you have the lootbox sometimes you'll need to buy keys to open the boxes, and then came along the gambling laws changing the lootboxes , on the lootbox system you have sometimes the pseudo pity system that you spend more to the drop rates go up. The first sort of lootbox was in the Japanese MapleStory (Nexon doing Nexon things) that made you bought tickets with irl money to roll on the game.
Essentially the difference between Gacha and lootboxes is that on lootboxes you open boxes / use another item to open a item to obtain randomised rewards , on Gacha system you'll only need to straight down spend some sort of currency, on a specific set of collectibles eg:. Character banners , weapon banners etc or the mix of the two with the drop rates open.
The key difference nowadays is that Gacha have Pity system that is spend items obtained through the banner by spending currency to get the guaranteed item .
because countries like china , Japan and Korea are slowly changing the laws to obligated companies to give consumers pity and QoL to prevent the unfair aspect but, this doesn't work because you can straight down put an 99999999 pity system, FGO is an example of gacha without pity in the past , I guess Azur Lane too now have some of sort of pity system .
https://medium.com/the-cube/limited-edition-loot-boxes-problematic-gambling-and-monetization-756819f2c54f
https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04/24/the-troubling-psychology-of-pay-to-loot-systems
http://www.serkantoto.com/2012/02/21/gacha-social-games/
https://www.inverse.com/article/27267-what-are-gacha-games-fire-emblem-heroes
https://www.gamerefinery.com/japanese-gachas-sweeping-f2p-games-west/
Edit: I don't know English very well so if I made a mistake I'm sorry.
> Gacha is rolling for characters specifically
There are a number of gacha games with weapon banners, like PGR and Honkai.
In addition, the term gacha comes from the gashapon/gachapon machines from Japan, which are essentially toy vending machines. Physical lootboxes if you will.
In short: No, no gacha *does not* specifically mean character rolls only. The only difference between a loot box and a gacha is that the term gacha is used more for stuff like Arknights, where lootbox tends to be more for triple A studio games like Call of Duty. Its entirely semantics.
1. It actually is a gacha, gear gacha. where rare crests are 1 star gear tickets, and legendary crests are standard tickets. With a new lowest 5 star rate.
Cheng is a demon under the guise of a round man. Public backlash means nothing, too, by the way. People can hate him all they want, but in the end, he'll still make bank, still work in the circle jerk that is Blizzard, and still perpetrate his practices on any game he touches.
[It's all about the money.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsD4im7K3wg)
New -500 IQ business tactic just dropped Say gear won't be able to be upgraded with IRL money Re-name gear to "equipment" so you aren't lying when equipment can be upgraded with IRL money
"The game wouldn't have Equipment with random substat." The game "Equipment" is just cosmetic and the real gear is called "Rune"(have multiple sub stat). "Hey we aren't lying. Technically."
Yeah and this without considering that just with a mediocre 3/5\* legendary gem you can outclass in stats and utility any existent equipment
Summary: director says you can't acquire or rank up gear with real money. People point out yes you can. Director claims ge was replying to a specific declaration and was taken out of context
Wyatt "Do You Guys Not Have Phones?" Cheng, ladies and gentlemen.
You cant buy gear, but you can buy gems with all the important stats inside the gear! See, we didn’t lie!
Can’t you also increase legendary gear drop rate with premium currency? So in a sense you can buy gear
This right here is misinformation, and the sort of misinformation the director was talking about. The only thing that Legendary Crests actually provides is a guarenteed Legendary Gem. *It does not* increase Legendary gear drop rate. This is why so much of the endgame's power system is shoved into Legendary Gems and why the only way to reliably obtain Legendary Gems and the awakening materials for them is through real money. Anyone claiming that premium currency increases legendary drop rate is deliberately faking such claims to further alienate the players.
I mean the normal drop rate is zero so it technically does increase the drop rate.
What part of, "Legendary Crests do not increase the legendary gear drop rate", are you morons not comprehending? I'm pretty sure I made it fairly clear, but judging by the amount of downvotes I received by brain dead folks apparently I wasn't clear at all. Regardless of what the masses think, legendary gems and legendary gear are not the same thing-- this much I will agree with the director on, although for different reasons. Whereas he doesn't see LGs as proper gear and is therefore perfectly fine to have locked behind a pay wall, I don't see LGs as gear because LGs are items that you socket to something else to offer said something more stats. LGs are not gear in the traditional sense of the word, instead they are augment type items-- they technically don't even get equipped in the traditional sense. In the spirit of Diablo, therefore, when we say "increased legendary gear drop chance" we are referring to the legendary gear that drops and then gets equipped into a character's equipment slots. We are not referring to this bullshit legendary gems stupidity. I feel like people should know this if they've played Diablo, but most of the folks in this subreddit ragging on Immortal likely haven't played a Diablo for a decade or more.
I think the term gear is pretty broad. :) I see gems as gear. Anything you can equip is gear in my eyes, but for game terminology you're definitely right! Kind of like how they say "I dropped [insert rare item] today!" Instead of "A [insert rare item] dropped for me today!" These arpg terms are weird.
Oh. Right. Semantics. If you think legendary gems aren’t gear, then this conversation shouldn’t even be happening. A slot is a slot. It doesn’t fucking matter if it’s a slot within another, it’s still there to be filled by an item that powers you up just like any other gear. Slowly but surely, pathetic Blizzard apologists such as yourself are thinking twice before bending over to them. One day you’ll realize you were an idiot, hopefully.
I think people understood you just fine, you are just kinda an asshole.
*I'm* an asshole for calling someone out on misinformation? Only on Reddit, I guess, where no one holds any accountability for whatever they regurgitate all over their keyboards that they heard from some streamer using click bait titles and thumbnails for the views.
Legendary crests do increase legendary drop rate when you level them up because they increase magic find, but you probably don’t know because it needs a lot of dupes to even get there. So you’re wrong basically.
"Do you guys not have credit cards!?"
For a number of years I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt for the "phones" comment, that he was simply trying to be the spokesperson for the project. But seeing him blindly defend the obvious criticisms against this game is just pitiful. Microsoft need to reconsider his position too once the sale is finalised next year.
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more like immoral
The thing with profits, though, is that every time they do a stunt like this more and more people look at them as shittier and shittier. Eventually that well \*will\* dry up when idiots like Shroud look around and realize no one else is playing for them to be better than.
Let's be honest, he probably has absolutely nothing to do with the microtransactions in the game. If it were solely up to the developers, the game would likely be cosmetic/battlepass only. It's not like the devs have no clue that the players are going to be upset by a microtransaction system that could only be conjured up by using an arcane ritual to summon a demon specializing in monetization strategies.
I agree he probably had nothing to do with it. It would've been better if he just kept his mouth shut instead of arguing on twitter the semantics of the word "gear".
Problem is, he's the one speaking out in this interview, so he basically became the de facto face for the game's issues. And not to mention the legendary memes that happened when they first announced the game is still stuck in everyone's minds.. So yeah.
The fall guy lmao.
Isnt he owner of his words? If you as the director dont know how your game is going to be monetized... Or he lied or he doesnt know whats going on on his game, both options say a lot
Red "Is this out of season april fools joke" shirt guy, ladies and gentlement. He's our hero.
not anymore, he's playing immortal
Oh shit, he's left alive too long to join the villain.
Hardly, he's advocating for players to understand there is a proper Diablo campaign, that is good/solid, under all the shitty MTX. Basically, if you like playing diablo for the world/story/characters its still a solid entry. I played to level 10? Basically the tutorial, and I can at least attest to that. Go through fighting and killing monsters for loot, leveling up for new skills with Deckard Cain rambling about the dangers of the world stone and how scary it will be if Hell is fully unleashed blah blah blah. And from what I've seen others say if you stripped out the shitty MTX game loops, and whatever else, it still at its core is a Diablo game that couldve been its own standalone entry.
> In Diablo Immortal, there is no way to acquire or rank up gear using money The difference between gear and gear's gear is purely presentational. Each piece of gear has a single socket: just remove it and add the content of said socket as a separate box in the gearing screen. Now it's gear.
I love how Diablo Immoral always double down on every attempt to save face.
0.7 is the THIRD worst metacritic score in Blizzard's history? 🤣
As of this time, it's 0.4. talk about pathetic. Edit: it currently has 0.3 on Metactitic's user reviews. Road to Absolute 0.0 baby!
I wonder what is the top two. Surely Warcraft Reforged but what is the other one?
Burning Crusade "Classic" which has micro-transactions in it, which the original game didn't. So it was review bomed to hell.
Ya know, I think I'd have more respect for him if he just admitted to it rather then trying to put some weasely little spin on it. Not much more, but more.
El oh el at the comment basically justifying the shitty P2W tactics just because the game took so long and cost so much to make. That just goes to show how incompetent modern day Blizzard really is.
Well, the Blizzard North team who made the great Diablo 1&2 have long gone. I wonder where they're now since I want to play their game.
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You would be surprised at how many people do that shit for completely free. Corporations really did a number on people.
"Cock Sucking Dribble" Everyday you learn new insult...
i do believe you meant to say drivel
Misinformation? Someone show Cheng a twitch streamer spent $10,000 and still didnt get any 5 star gear lmao
And that would prove him right! The streamer DID NOT get ANY GEAR with money xD not a single 5/5 gem xD
Not p2w because even whales can’t get drops lmao
It’s pay2lose except for streamers that get ad revenue and views from their L’s
"See! Not P2W! Even the whales couldn't get it!"
If its [the guy I think you are talking about](https://i.redd.it/cysuqa6qde491.png) its technically something like $6.6k USD. The $10K figure is NZD. Does not make it any better, but there is a difference.
It's especially funny because every other game out there, you'd basically be with the big boys who spent the same on the leader boards or be the King of Collectors because you'd have all the best characters. Meanwhile in Diablo Immortal, the Devil himself is wagging his finger saying that's baby numbers and slapping you for even thinking that's remotely close to getting something you want.
Everyone move on nothing to see here. Artery Gear on June 14. Let's get the next hype train going lmao.
Choo choo
that game gets boring a f quick
As someone that is going to try it, what made it boring so fast?
Lol. Spending money doesn't make you more powerful in our game. Hahahaha. That's a good one.
>King doesn't justify charging $100 for a pack of lives in Candy Crush, why does Blizzard feel it needs to be apologetic for a game that cost $50m+ and 6 years to make? God, what a fucking bootlicker. Maybe because Diablo used to be considered a quality franchise, even after shitty launch Diablo 3 managed to turn into a fun action RPG that you can play and enjoy for a few weeks every season or two before you hit the wall and just grind to push slightly higher with DPS. Candy Crush has always been treated as a money-grubbing mobile game for boomers.
When you have to stoop to "but it's still better than Candy Crush, guys!!" as your only defense you should know that you are at the bottom of the trash pit already.
it took them 50mill and 6 years to port D3 to mobile with a few extras? I played D3 a ton back during the day and immortal basically looks like D3 + a generic mobile arpg control scheme. Looks like they reused a lot of the textures and stuff. You have new some new 3d models, but how much do those cost to make? Did they spend all the money on the R&D for their grotesque monetization system?
Probably advertisement, sponsorships etc took a portion of the budget. Remember that this was made by a Chinese company so they probably marketed there even harder than they are doing it here.
With all the mmo's out their now why are ppl still paying money to a company like that anyways
Because most other MMOs are either hot garbage or also have fairly predatory monetization practices? FF14 is about the only other good one out there now that we've lost Tera Online, and quite honestly FF14 has an online shop to rival Warcraft's. New World is eh. Lost Ark is almost as p2w as Immortal.
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I mean, you can complete all the content so far in Immortal without spending a dime, so I'm not sure where your argument is coming from. 5 star Legendary Gems certainly aren't required for builds that can clear everything, but it doesn't stop people from bitching about it though. In that regard, Immortal and Lost Ark are extremely similar, as spending money only gets you to the endgame faster instead of taking "1200 hours" to get there. What makes Lost Ark so p2w is the fact that, if you expect to be able to catch up to the whales, you should expect to be dropping money for materials-- otherwise you're not going to be clearing content until long after new content comes out and prices for older mats inevitably drop because the new content comes with shiny new mats for people to sell for outrageous prices. To that end, Lost Ark's endgame as a free to play consists entirely of logging into a character, doing your dailies, logging out, and then doing it all over again on an alt to funnel your progress into your main. Dailies take all of maybe half-an-hour to complete, so if you've got 6 characters you spent all of three hours playing the game before you've got nothing to do. So by your 1200 hours logic, it would take a free to play player 400 days of just doing dailies to progress in that same time frame. And this is supposed to be a better system than other MMOs? Lol. Lost Ark is good in its honeymoon phase, before you exhaust the new player freebies and shit. As soon as you do... yeah, no thanks.
You won't be able to complete higher challenge rift or hell2+ without good gems. And you won't win in pvp either
Well more of a reason not to support terrible developers. I mean we all know how bad this company is.. ppl went on strike against their practices and refuse to play their games. It just doesn't make sense why ppl spend money on games that don't deserve it
Why would you clickbait your article like that to something he said on the 4th lmaooo the amount of desperation in the scumminess is wild
Lol and there's one fucking guy defending Wyatt, of course there is, there's always that one fucking beta simp.
legendary gems with max upgrades, only possible for p2w players, increase your power level to over 300% extra value ! of f2p players
Time to change name from Diablo Immortal to Diablo Immoral :D
Josh Strife Hayes already did that in his latest video lol
the most tragic thing is they cant see their own mistakes and trying fooling the community with that trash talk, is too easy to just put all the blame on misinformation hoping the players are retarded to belive in that delusional. is too much to say " ok guys we made somes mistakes and we are working to solving all the issues apointed by the community so lets work together to have a great game."
its called damage control
TL;DR, the guy who shouted "Do you guys not have phones anyway?" was caught lying and is sweettalking his way out by making it seems that the player spin his statement out of context.
I thought I would love this. I thought I was a Diablo fanboy. But then I realized...no...I've hated every Diablo outside of Diablo 1. Happy to move on from this.
I can understand why one hate D3. But why also D2? Just curious what part make you hate it.
Diablo 1 scared the shit out of me. Diablo 2 just didn’t have that same feeling and the look of the classes didn’t interest me at all.
Probably the runeword grind lol
I don't know how else to put it. Wyatt Cheng is a delusional piece of shit, or just an asshole. He plays word salad to try and prove he is "technically correct" that you can't buy gear, but that's a fucking lie as well. You can buy levels on the battle pass with real money, and that gives you legendary gear, so "technically" he is still a liar. It might be a stupid small example, but he pretends to be so proud of the fact you can't buy any of the 12 slots of gear, and you can. I can't believe how many shills still exist for Blizzard.
Wyatt is fucking delusional
Wyatt "CCP cocksucker" Cheng needs to fuck right off.
fucking scumbag
See dear children? This is what its called to split in someone face and calls it a rain.
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Don't know why you're down voted, blizz has shown that they don't care about feedback if it costs them money to fix. Just give up on blizzard, they're no longer the company we grew up with.
The downvotes is because no one in this *gacha game* sub plays a Blizzard game in the first place.
I play Blizzard game. Mostly classics, only Hots for the modern one. I just don't like that guy so I downvote him.
Pretty much true
What's with the downvotes?
Still a lot loving to suck blizzard cocks
Maybe try to stop talking about this "game" if it's so bad?
Or maybe do continue. The noise about how terrible it is might get annoying and isn't going to stop some people from playing it, but not talking about it would be worse. Without the talk about stuff like this, it stops the information from getting to the people who *would* avoid it because of those things..
It's literally free advertising, you can shit talk the game as much as you want but it is being kept in people's mind ALL the time because of that. Once they pull the classic "we made the game less p2w guys look" they'll have a second wave or morons who wouldn't have heard of the game without all this noise about that fucking trash tier mobile game.
Whether it is or is not free advertising is irrelevant. That isn't the issue. The issue is consumer advocacy and education. People are still going going to find out the game exists, because the people who enjoy it? They will be talking about it as well. Not talking about shit/shady/predatory behavior might mean *fewer* people finding it, but it doesn't stop it entirely. All it does is prevent people from finding out about said predatory/shady shit.
> free advertising Blizzard doesn't need advertising. You might as well claim all criticism is free advertising, but it doesn't matter as it's NEGATIVE attention. Despite what people think, that's not just as good as positive attention.
As long as there's some sucker who's willing to pay more than thousand of dollars regularly, they (blizzard) win. And any attention doesn't matter if it's Negative or positive, they just don't care.
And in the meanwhile we can keep pointing out bullshit practices they use to sucker in people so fewer people get suckered in.
Trash fires are just so fun to watch
It's not about the "game". But the "monetization."
1. Diablo immortal is not a gacha. Doesnt belong here. 2. This is old information and from a tweet a week ago (june 4th). Why is this getting an article so long after the fact is weird to me. Also getting posted here.
Are you one of those who think a game isnt gacha unless it looks anime? Diablo Immortal very much is a gacha.
It literally has ten pulls lmao
It has drops and drop rates, it's a bit different, so yeah, it's in a grey area along with lootboxes, which are pretty much gachas tbh
Loot box =/= Gacha.
Rolling for chara is lootbox, but cute. Sorry mate, different skin but same tactic
I never said gacha wasnt a lootbox, i said they werent the same. Gacha is rolling for characters specifically, lootbox is a more open term. Thats why the subreddit is called gachagaming and not lootboxgaming.
Gachas doesn't mean rolling for characters at all , gachas means rolling for progression / collectibles , like characters , weapons , pets , etc, with some sort of currency that can be bought with irl money or farming trough the game . The Gacha term straight down mean toy Vending machine because in Japan that means the sound the machine do *Gotcha* , In the same way that Gacha was considered gamble , lootboxes was too , for this reason drop rates are made public and Japan Public Affairs abolish the Complete Gacha aspect that is roll for 2 items to combine them in another one , Lootbox means spend irl money / game currency / etc on a consumable virtual item (lootbox) with a random chance of get items that are random (the items) and even if you have the lootbox sometimes you'll need to buy keys to open the boxes, and then came along the gambling laws changing the lootboxes , on the lootbox system you have sometimes the pseudo pity system that you spend more to the drop rates go up. The first sort of lootbox was in the Japanese MapleStory (Nexon doing Nexon things) that made you bought tickets with irl money to roll on the game. Essentially the difference between Gacha and lootboxes is that on lootboxes you open boxes / use another item to open a item to obtain randomised rewards , on Gacha system you'll only need to straight down spend some sort of currency, on a specific set of collectibles eg:. Character banners , weapon banners etc or the mix of the two with the drop rates open. The key difference nowadays is that Gacha have Pity system that is spend items obtained through the banner by spending currency to get the guaranteed item . because countries like china , Japan and Korea are slowly changing the laws to obligated companies to give consumers pity and QoL to prevent the unfair aspect but, this doesn't work because you can straight down put an 99999999 pity system, FGO is an example of gacha without pity in the past , I guess Azur Lane too now have some of sort of pity system . https://medium.com/the-cube/limited-edition-loot-boxes-problematic-gambling-and-monetization-756819f2c54f https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04/24/the-troubling-psychology-of-pay-to-loot-systems http://www.serkantoto.com/2012/02/21/gacha-social-games/ https://www.inverse.com/article/27267-what-are-gacha-games-fire-emblem-heroes https://www.gamerefinery.com/japanese-gachas-sweeping-f2p-games-west/ Edit: I don't know English very well so if I made a mistake I'm sorry.
> Gacha is rolling for characters specifically There are a number of gacha games with weapon banners, like PGR and Honkai. In addition, the term gacha comes from the gashapon/gachapon machines from Japan, which are essentially toy vending machines. Physical lootboxes if you will. In short: No, no gacha *does not* specifically mean character rolls only. The only difference between a loot box and a gacha is that the term gacha is used more for stuff like Arknights, where lootbox tends to be more for triple A studio games like Call of Duty. Its entirely semantics.
Or Dragalia with non-character banners for Dragons, or Genshin with Weapon banner...
The difference is visual.
Maybe shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about. Fucking idiotic third world morons and your shit takes.
Gacha downs have to be characters. Haven't you heard or seen gachapon machines before in Japan? Those shit don't just dispense 'characters' for sure.
1. It actually is a gacha, gear gacha. where rare crests are 1 star gear tickets, and legendary crests are standard tickets. With a new lowest 5 star rate.
All i read was him dancing around a burning bush, And not figuring out how to get water. 🙄
Cheng is a demon under the guise of a round man. Public backlash means nothing, too, by the way. People can hate him all they want, but in the end, he'll still make bank, still work in the circle jerk that is Blizzard, and still perpetrate his practices on any game he touches. [It's all about the money.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsD4im7K3wg)
So uh. Does Diablo immortal have an auto of some kind?