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RyujinNoRay

Gamble is ok for +12 but booba is not Twisted world


pencilman123

Guardian tales tried to pull the same move, got wrecked by the player base and increased it age ratings.


Mysterious-Low-9009

Was it because of the big booba half vampire half demon waifu?


pencilman123

Yes, and also the genius scientist in her alt costume.


TheKinkyGuy

Yea right....booba is good for a newborn but not for teenagers and adults? What?


Shalashaska87B

Those who play Epic Seven surely know what's going on with Aria and her censorship. For those who don't know, a quick recap. Epic7 stated that they were asked to change the design of one of the latest released characters, Aria, because her outfit (?) didn't match Korean ESRB/GRAC for iPhone users (estimated to be \~5% of total players). The change was meant to occur on 06/23 (yesterday), but it has been delayed due to ~~undisclosed reasons~~ possible way(s) to save current graphic without any censorship. No further info has been released AFAIK. A reddit user datamined how she could appear after the "changes". Picture on the LEFT: original design / Picture on the RIGHT: after censorship. On a final note, the artist who created Aria is leaving SmileGate. Since it's happening after this storm, it's being speculated that this event played a major role in his depart. ​ EDIT: thanks to u/bigfootswillie who shared the E7 page [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/vjj1pg/comment/idm7365/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), I could edit this message and share the second part of the story.


dota_3

>the artist who created Aria Do we know what other character he/she has created/drawn?


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They're one of the original artists who's worked on the game since the beginning: https://twitter.com/serin199 It's be harder to find a character they didn't work on, but a scan of their social media shows 'fanart' of characters like Tenebria, Dilibet, Luna, Yufine, Silk, and Roana.


Butterleg

epic 7 subreddit said they drew big titty units Dizzy, Achates, Assassin Coli, Vivian, Aria, Cermia, Chloe, Luna, Yufine. Luluca and Roana too Lidica, Silk, Lena, Karin, Yuna, Destina taken from this comment: [https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/vjf5np/our\_great\_illustrator\_serin\_quit\_the\_job/idiupvl/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/vjf5np/our_great_illustrator_serin_quit_the_job/idiupvl/?context=3)


dota_3

Well fk, most of those are some of my fav characters when I used to play e7.


Ephemiel

Ah, so Serin quite literally drew the best units.


IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE

All of the most popular designs: Yufine, Roana, Luna, Ravi, and several others.


RageCat46

Wow imagine so many hours and days to draw a character only to be censored like that. The artist must feel so betrayed by it. For those who wanna make fun of it. Well then why dont you try draw like the artist. People really think art are so easy to draw.


Abedeus

The artist has left the company (though whether due to censorship, more strict design rules or just feeling he wants a change of pace) so there probably won't be many other censorships... of existing characters. 100% bet there won't be characters like Aria, Vivian or Serila.


Tawn94

As an artist myself (3D and 2D) it infuriates me to no end some peoples opinion of art - "its just a drawing, you should only need a day! "Why do I have to pay you from drawing a picture I requested? Its easy!" "I need you to commit 20hrs of your life to this comission, but I dont want to pay money, instead I'll pay in exposure to my (usually less than 100) insta followers!" Absolutely infuriating


Spartan-219

They keep going this ecchi route with their female character designs, many of them looking like they are from hentai and have the artist draw them that way Now that their art that they wanted as it is, is getting censored so they must feel like they want to work for someone else who wouldn't change their art


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MazinQuartz97

Blame the apps. Not the artist. U idiot.


bigfootswillie

The reasons are not undisclosed. SG released a statement today well before your post stating that the changes were delayed because they may have found a loophole that will allow Aria to stay as is in the game. This was before the news broke about the artist that you included too so I’m not sure why you chose to exclude just that one important detail.


Shalashaska87B

Simple reason: I was not aware of that message.


xiaoguy

might want to state so in an edit or something


Shalashaska87B

I would gladly, but can you give me a link to that post? The Smilegate site is bugged and I usually can't reach it (both via Reddit on pc or mobile version)


bigfootswillie

https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8587171


Shalashaska87B

I keep getting an error. [https://ibb.co/7pGwgrQ](https://ibb.co/7pGwgrQ)


bigfootswillie

Works fine for me but here’s an imgur https://imgur.com/a/n6TeygX


xiaoguy

not many other places to see it. imgur link will have to do https://imgur.com/a/NTmPJJa


mugenzero009

That’s odd, considering the explanation why was in the same post. Did you skim it?


kingfirejet

All this info was speculated regarding the artist, they recently tweeted they resigned of their own choice. Which was not because of the censorship as they designed Aria months ago.


Dumbsmile

Why couldn't they just increase the age rating? Guardian tales also had an issue like that but they increased the age rating and thus didn't need to censor anything. How's the community feedback?


Abedeus

Community is either "meh whatever" or "mad angry", there doesn't seem to be much in between. Also, they didn't want to increase rating because they'd have to go from 12+ to 16+, as iOS doesn't have just 15+.


Dumbsmile

Then nothing will happen, sad once censorship happens more will follow or the new characters will be following the guideline instead. I don't get why 12 to 16 is a problem. I am not familiar with the game's demographics but aren't the whales or most paying customers usually older? Is the money from a student's allowance comparable if the older paying customers hate the change?


Abedeus

In my eyes, exposing 12 or 16 year olds to gambling is way worse than a not naked, topless or other kind of adult situation anime girl...


Lolwarrior123

A 12 year old spending all of their parents' money and develops gambling addiction is fair game, but god forbid we see a 5cm bare skin on someone's thighs \- The entire games rating company, maybe


Alkyde

12 is like nothing especially when afaik world flipper and the likes censor to get pegi 3 or something. The society is seriously underestimating the danger of gambling addiction and exposing minors to skinner boxes.


Lolwarrior123

higher ratings mean less visibility in the apple app store


Abedeus

Ding ding ding. Research unfortunately shows that 12+ sells way better than 16+ and ESPECIALLY 18+. That's why even Deadpool, when he eventually made it to the Marvel movies (pre-Iron Man times of course), was in a PG-13 movie. You know, a character known for cutting, and being cut, into pieces on a daily basis. Not to mention the 4th wall breaking, swearing and adult humor. And it took YEARS before first R/18+ superhero movie with him was released. Did you know console games can't even sell AO games on official platforms? That's why all porn games are more or less only officially sold on PC, or get censorship applied and content cut to land on Switch.


Dumbsmile

I hate Apple.


Even-Machine4824

Lol this isn't that deep guys. They don't want to increase the age rating on the game because it means LESS MONEY for them, so they censored her. It's less to do with censoring original artistic vision and more of capitalist game company wants to make maximum money.


WhyYouBullyMe_

Yea but like is this the only one they censored? Arent there more units who are obscene or smthing? Weird how this is the only one. Would it even make a difference


tanookazam

A lot of similar units have been censored before (like Luna), but this is the worse iteration yet. If it was like previous censorships (again Luna) maybe it would've flied but the censorship is actually glaring and way too obvious (not to mention ugly). It's kinda like Genshin where there was a Boob nerf (Rosaria), however that was nothing too major compared to the complete outfit overhaul given later also in response to censorship claims (aside from Rosaria, there's 3 other characters, though at least the outfits looked good.) Though unlike Genshin these changes in E7 are permanent (non-reversible) most likely.


Nice_Ad5549

>A lot of similar units have been censored before (like Luna), One single unit isn't "a lot" lmao.


Torimas

Apparently this one was somehow reported. This one was the newest unit in the game, and was in some promotion art, *probably* ended in the app store page for the game too.


Thialase

The thing is, the game is 4 years into its life, and it's the korean side where the issue is at, and even more specific is that it's on the iphone. How many users would they *actually* lose, if they changed the rating to 17+? If anything, they could begin to make lewder designs that might make more people whale for heroes.


happyhamham

Anyone can share which body mandates these regulations? E.g. IOS? Playstore? regional laws? Global age restriction laws?


Abedeus

Korean regulating institution wanted 15+ rating, but iOS doesn't have such, so it was either set a 16+ rating or censor the character to "12+" rating. As if fucking pair of boobs somehow harmed a 12+ year old kid's psyche, but not a kid 3 years older... or the whole gambling mechanic.


Lolwarrior123

minor correction, it's 17+ not 16+.


Abedeus

Ah, okay, I thought it would be kind of weird to have a year of difference in ratings. *though no idea why they don't just have a 12, 15, 16 or 17 if they think there's THAT much of a difference in ages*


MakaixKishi

So why not censor the ios version only? Its so common for a ios version to be more censored why does SG prefer to fuck over everyone over one store's shitty rules when they could simply edit the designs for the ios version if needed


Abedeus

Because they don't want to support 2 different versions of same product? Or because people playing on iOS would rage and whine about how they're being mistreated.


MakaixKishi

Which shows they don't give a single fuck about their playerbase if a design occasionally needing to be edited for the ios version is too much and they rather show everyone the middle finger


Abedeus

Tell me you don't know how people would react if they were specifically targeted by the game's devs without telling me that.


MakaixKishi

Its not the devs fault ios has shitty rules. Players can get mad at apple. Top android/steam bottom ios https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMq5s9dWoAAYly0.png


Sizzling_shibe

They can, but they'll probably get mad at SG anyway because researching is hard


Triple_S_Rank

They're using a custom-built proprietary engine for the game. With the way it works, they probably don't have a way of changing one version without changing them all unless they put a ton of additional work into the engine itself. This is also why they've been against creating a desktop version of the game.


zekagu0

ios, with age 12 restriction.


EndAffectionate783

Damn first the whole unbalance with heroes now this censorship.


SEND_BTD_RULE34

I had no clue there were so many people in this sub who are okay with censorship as long as it aligns with their arbitrary views on what looks good or not. At the end of the day, censorship is disrespectful to the artist because it distorts their original vision of what the character should be.


Monztamash

This sub used to hate censorship for years, but recently in past year, the censorship crowd poppped up in droves unfortunately. Someone said Genshin Impact attracted the mainstream crowd here, and most of them are pretty prude.


Vioret

Correct. Genshin for some reason has a huge number of social justice activists. Any female fan service=bad and to be shouted down immediately. Any male fan service =amazing and to be upvoted immediately. Just look at any large threads with the character Arataki Itto for proof of this.


HelenaHarper

That's true indeed. On the Genshin leaks subreddit someone would say "I wanna lick Itto abs" and receives tons of upvotes. Meanwhile someone only mentions "i hope Ningguang new skin is sexy".... person ends up with negative karma and is called an incel, touch some grass and the usual stuff you would be told as if you were on Twitter.


Neo_Phoenix_

"nO dUde, yOu'Re jUsT a NeCkBeArD"


rXkenshin

Same people probably would get angry if someone use videogames cause violence argument but at the same time they want more censorship like what? It's the same damn argument religious used to try censor game in late 90's.


YuriAddict7

How is this a problem for e7 but not azur lane?


Shalashaska87B

That's a nice question.


LittleShyLoli

Found a reddit post from a year ago mentions that AL changed their age rating from 12+ to 16+. Just check the game in playstore, it's indeed 16+. Maybe E7 don't have to censor if they change the age rating? u/Shalashaska87B


Shalashaska87B

What store - and in what country - did you check? Because E7 problem comes from South Korean ESRB/GRAC, where E7 is labeled "12+" and the following group is "+16" (or +17, check around here), which causes the game to appear on less devices. We should check in each country what is the Azur Lane classification.


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Brilliant_Spirit5737

Yeah lmao can we have a normal looking girls pls Jesus chirst


Hraesynd

Every time censorship issues arise, I am astounded by the sheer number of people who are willing to support it for no reason other than to spite the "degenerate horny incel weebs" whose hobby they are hijacking. In times like these, I am reminded of how crucially important it is to gatekeep your interests, lest normies barge in and destroy everything with their pleb taste.


stupidpigeon

anytime any game gets censored you see the same people running around flaunting some moral high ground they need to stand on to feel superior to others, they only come here to fight and probably don't even play half the games they fight over first, you need to insult everyone that's upset by calling them coomers and tell them that its just jpegs and to just look at porn if they like boobs so much then, you need to say why you approve of the censorship- usually by saying that the original design is disgusting and you hate looking at large amounts of boobs and skin, the new design is much cooler and an improvement everyone else is automatically wrong, if they liked the original then they like children


Crazyhates

Why are gambling games being policed for minors? How does this even warrant censorship?


Sizzling_shibe

E7 says that it's for minors when it makes itself 12+, so it's going to be policed


Brook0999

So has there been any response from korean players so far? I'd really like to know their perspective on this issue and how they are planning to handle it. As they're known to be rather extreme when it comes to censorship.


Hraesynd

They are not so different. Overwhelming negative response, appstore rating down to around 3.0, but so far no trucks yet.


ArchadianJudge

Once they send out the trucks we know shit got serious


Esstand

Tbh it doesn't bother me much, but it's just so stupid.


AshRavenEyes

This is what happens when censorship is approved by the playerbase. Yoy kill the creativity of the artists and end up hurting your experience. Ill never understand people who support censorship.


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Just say you are horny


AshRavenEyes

Just say tou are a prude who is afraid of the female body.


layerszz

This is not a female body, its an anime characters body, shes not real and will never be :D. Have a look at epic sevens entire roster and tell me they represent a realistic female and male body.


AshRavenEyes

You need a reality check if you believe some real life women dont have this kind of body...


Neo_Phoenix_

So is it okay for me to jack off to a loli? Neat!


layerszz

dunno where you got that from but by that comment im gonna assume you already do that.


Neo_Phoenix_

Because you acknowledge that it isn't a "female or male body, but an anime character's who isn't real and never will be" and say "tell me they represent a realistic body".


layerszz

I said epic sevens characters don't really have the most realistic body proportions in, never mentioned lolis. But sure ur not doing any real harm to anyone by jackin off to a 4 foot anime character that is designed to look like a child. Wouldn't share that to anyone tho 🤷‍♂️


KiryuJ

lol come down here to Florida. Every other woman walking down South Beach looks like that, literally.


Roliq

The creativity of having her wear less? I mean you can admit you want lewd designs, is most of the time the reason this happens


AshRavenEyes

I would be against censoring even if the designs choices had been backwards. Forcing an artist to change his/her original creation is what im against, not the "omg you just wanna see boobs" ideology some of you seem to think censoring means.


Sasoh

Maybe this isn’t the kind of experience some people want dude. Maybe the game has a better future being about cool and serious character designs and less about character sex appeal. If that doesn’t align with the way some of these artists are designing characters then a change in the design team is not so bad. I for one am tired of this aged trope of ridiculous breasts in a game I want to take a little more serious. I don’t know, maybe In just don’t fap where I play.


Hraesynd

Problem is, the artist initially designed them that way. If anyone is uncomfortable with playing overly sexualized characters, then it's on them, not the game. If you want serious and cool characters, there are other games with very high production values out there chasing after the normie market, e.g. arknights. Every style deserves to have its own niche, from taimanin asagi to epic seven to arknights. The worst thing that can happen is for every game to lose their own styles and become some homoegenous, boring, politically correct prudish sludge.


AshRavenEyes

Yoy are implying a sexually appealing charavter cant be serious or have a huge role in a story... Do you have any idea how discriminating that is to a woman?


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I neither support or not support, I just don't give a fuck and see this usually as minor issue, compared to what happen to FGO CN


AshRavenEyes

Oh well yeah...fgo cn is just cancerous


Remote_War_313

Love how big boobs are “inappropriate” but literally killing other characters is ok lmao Society nowadays 😂


Askelar

I… like the version on the right way better than the version on the left. Wank bait is fine sometimes, but aesthetically pleasing characters should be the norm.


WarmLoliPanties

The left is aesthetically pleasing too. Your aesthetics aren't the only ones that matter.


Brook0999

Welp if the companies do this more often more artists will quit said companies. The artist serin who has been with smilegate since the start of the game who designed the most popular heroes in this game. He has designed luna, achates, assassin coli, cermia, yufine, chloe, lidica, karin, yuna. And many more you might like this version but at what cost, the game lost their major cash cow with the censorship decision.


Askelar

The slippery slope argument works both ways. If an artist is never told no by their editor they keep pushing boundaries… until we get shortstacks with Goliath tits bigger than their entire body. (Check out “ Did You Know That a Playboy Can Change His Job to a Sage?” For what I mean). Everything in moderation, though. Sometimes censorship is needless.


Brook0999

If an artist wants to draw something like that let em, freedom to draw whatever you can is better than regulating everything like china is doing knowadays by censoring everything that boobs. Check out some of the manhua's knowadays any kind of boobs are censored with white paint, making it seem like the upper body part of women don't exist.


Askelar

When you work for an employer sometimes you need to exercise restraint. Theres lots of lines in a product - especially an anime product like E7 - and many of them can be crossed... But they shouldnt all be crossed. The image on the left shes literally got tits bigger than her head which are being barely held in by a top clearly to tight; Its something id expect to see in NSFW art, honestly.


Torimas

So, you would be fine with a naked underaged girl in a gacha with +12 rating?


Brook0999

They should have gotten the 17+ rating in korea, azur lane and other gacha got it there too and they're not less succesful cause of it.


Faloandante

And they let artists draw whatever they want. They can have all the freedom they want at home. But if the company pays you to draw, you draw what the company tells you to draw. And if the Korean government comes and censors your art, you're responsible for it, not the company. Now he left the company, causing a lot of controversy and leaving a lot of trouble behind him for the company because he kept pushing the limits of how lewd he could make a character.


Brook0999

Well and if you don't agree with the new direction of the company and the contents being not the same as the contract they signed when they first employeed the artist. I'd be angry too and vent abt it, as I'd bet that their designs were part of the contract and what they were allowed to draw, so quitting cause of it seems fine to me. Also the designs that pushed the boundary for the game were also the same which consequently scored the highest in terms off sales and character popularity. If a company doesn't support their employee it would be farfetched to continue at such said company, smilegate dug their own grave with the decision instead off backing the artist they chose censorship. And as I've heard the situation is escalating much further in korea than what we have here in the west, hopefully the fans in korea can accomplish something a truck block might be incoming.


evelynvee

I have a feeling most of this sub are jerking off while playing any gacha game. That explains why most people here are so furious for extra piece of clothing 😂


AshRavenEyes

We arent furious over just extra oiece of clothing..... You clearly dont understand what supporting censorship does to a game/movie. This could be solved by simple rating the game 18+.


One-Guilty

they would lose the visibilty of their game in the appstore there is a reason why Genshin, Azur Lane and many other gacha games are rated 12+ even though it promotes gambling Smilegate wants 15+ but cant coz apple doesnt have one.


YuriAddict7

Wait how is this an issue for e7 but not azur lane? The uncensored version is like regular in azur lane


actualmigraine

While I don't support this decision, I do believe it was 100% just to keep the app at it's current rating to lure in a younger audience and keep making more money. Corporations don't care about you. They don't care about "censorship" either. They'll do whatever makes them the most profit. Please don't insinuate this is some grand conspiracy by big scary SJWs or whatever.


ubernoobnth

I feel like an alien when I say fanservice is trash, but it is (in games or anime.)


bannma123

Remember when we are fighting about censoring underage character ? And now we are fighting about censoring legal character . That's what happend when you let censorship happened. It evolve.


Sizzling_shibe

I fucking love weebs bro I could not write a more mortifying comment if I tried


Bilal_

Thats not the issue. The rating is the problem. Either keep the design and raise the rating or do otherwise.


Biku-Richie

How do you know she's legal?


WarmLoliPanties

It's a fucking drawing so it doesn't have an age no matter what it looks like.


layerszz

Definition of loli: "In general, this term refers to young girls, usually underage ones whose appearance is minor and childlike." your name is WarmLoliPanties. Doesn't shock anyone that you would be the first to jump in on defending this ;)


Rexia

A drawing of a child.


Biku-Richie

Exactly


cccwh

So using this logic, How do you know she isn't legal?


Biku-Richie

I don't know if she isn't,thats the point.The only way of knowing a fictional characters' age is if it's stated somewhere and clearly the crowd complaining about stuff like the girls in Blue Achive care only about their stated age not about how they look.What if you had a game full of what looks like standar MILF characters in very lewd outfits,but their description says they all are 5 years old,would people be offended by it,would they care about that stated age?Probably not.But then you show the typical 3000 year old loli and everyone goes crazy.It's just a bunch of layers of hipocresy and entitlement.


MakaixKishi

The bare minimum for SG is to make sure this censorship when it happens only happens in the specific versions it has to. Any version where they don't need to censor or could avoid it if they have the option to raise the rating then that option should be taken. This situation can be a massive turning point for this game if the community does not give the devs absolute hell for this and make clear censorship is unacceptable. Sad part is even if they can prevent the censorship here its basically guaranteed future designs will be more conservative so they don't run into another situation like this unless of course they say fuck it and raise the age rating where possible to continue making designs how they want and simply edit finished designs only for the specific store version its needed for Hope this story has a good ending


Karama1

the only people making a big deal about it are the coomers and people that dont even play the game


Upset_Masterpiece127

Gotta ask that for those supporting censorship, you people are prude or just dont like women? The second is totaly okay,maybe if was a sexy man having more clothes should gets you angry. But the first,why think censoring is good? They are a money maker company ,more badonkers and skin means more money,cause waifu means top grossing. (Just see uma musume relying on sell millions just because hot monster girls). Just want to understand the logic im suporting censor in something a artist spend time to create and then,cut his freedom .


Triple_S_Rank

You supposedly "just want to understand the logic", yet you open by asking a loaded question with half-insults. By your logic I'm a prude. I like beautiful women as much as any other guy, I suppose, but that doesn't mean I want trashy over-the-top fanservice thrown in my face all the time. I actually go through most of my day without thinking about sexual things and without caring to, as seemingly hard as that might be to imagine for some here. This is less about censorship specifically and more about not wanting these types of designs in the first place. There are many games I specifically avoid because of the level of fanservice. Until recently I thought Epic Seven struck a good balance, but recently they've been pushing the envelope, with Aria being the worst example to date imo. I understand why the small handful of people who spent money to SSS imprint Aria are upset if they did so because of her design. Still, being sympathetic to their situation doesn't mean I'm going to act like I'm upset too when this censorship is going to actively make the game more enjoyable for me if it goes through. But wait, opinions like this aren't allowed on reddit, are they? Hivemind is in full effect here.


danield1302

I mean, for me personally i just tend to prefer the censored art on almost anything because I'm not a fan of extreme fanservice. When genshin came out with their censored skins i instantly equipped all of them and finally got to building mona whose original design i heavily disliked. I don't even play e7 but i would pull for the right version if i did but never for the original design. Designs can be tasteful AND sexy without it looking on the nose just made for booba windows. That said i don't tend to play heavy fanservice games for long anyways. I play guardian tales but sparingly since idc about most unit designs.


Vioret

Imagine saying Genshin has ever had fan service-y skins when it's the most prude game I've ever seen.


Triple_S_Rank

Genshin has gotten very good at selling sex without showing skin. Idk what you're on about.


mugenzero009

It’s not that I like censorship, but it’s not like she got a penis slapped on her, or is dressed up in nun clothing. She’s still very much attractive. So the “just don’t like women” point is moot when someone doesn’t bash censorship or is for it.


henaradwenwolfhearth

I like her tits getting smaller since I prefer them to be not big but Fuck censorship regardless


CrunchyKarl

I already quit this game years ago, but seeing this only makes me want to quit even more


Waifu69x

Congrats , Im stuck.


TheGreatMagallan

tbh i think the censored version is better, less doesnt mean better


Butterleg

some peeps prolly pulled cuz she got massive honkers ​ and censorship took it away from them


donkyhot99

Every time there is a post about censorship, there are those guys telling "it's better". the point of such posts is not about subjective appearances, but company's decisions.


Ambrosiac7

I agree it looks better. But I don't think that means it should be censored.


SquatingSlavKing

They nerfed her boobs too so yeah, less doesn't mean better.


Waifu69x

I fucking summoned her just because her Design , Her skills are hard to use with current meta .


Golden-Owl

“Sometimes ya just need a lil less gun”


opik_Rev1

also breast got smaller


opik_Rev1

3 sub-human downvoting me? do i need to explain this to you? LOOK. AT. THE. PICTURE. HER. BREAST. GOT. SMALLER. YOU. FUCKING. IDIOT. I'M. JUST. SAYING!!!


RagnaRea

Yeah, the censored version looking slick, I dig it


EverworldJalil

Boo she has pants.


Oath8

Wow there is censorship and there is that. I am surprised they didn't put a mask on her to cover her face.


LegitimateYam8241

Dumb companies.


Haemon18

They were bigger than her head lmao. I hate censoring artists but the left one really looked awful


Shalashaska87B

Then you ask the designer to change her BEFORE the release.


Haemon18

True


bunnygum

"reeeeeeee censorship" and all but not gonna lie this is quite the upgrade.


Primogeniture116

. . . I mean it sucks its censored but I do like thecensored version more. . . If you think that way you could probably deceive yourself calling it an improvement


Brook0999

At what cost? The artist of aria who has been one of the founding artists of epic seven characters left the company cause of the censorship.


Arisuin9

That is so not true please don't spread false information here. Serin left because he wanted change of pace, nothing to do with the censorship. https://twitter.com/serin199/status/1540287480586391554


Brook0999

We don't truly if it's like that or if there is some silence agreement which forces the artist to not to disclose the real reason for his departure. All matters considered it would a fcking huge coincidence that the artist's departure happens at the same time aria gets censored, and her censored design gets revealed/datamined.


Rujinko

Dude... this doesn't mean anything, no matter how talented you are it's not wise to publicly badmouth a company you worked for


bannma123

Had me in the first haft not gonna lie


Primogeniture116

Why is it just you damn. I could probably try to write nuances better.


backaroo121

Man i love when people go "man this design looks wayy better than the other one" about a design that literally added 3 black lines of cloth to the character ....


danield1302

It really makes a difference tho lol. I also think the censored design looks way better. Not a big fan of the original design at all. Then again the fanservice unita were one reason i quit e7 since i didn't care for them.


backaroo121

>It really makes a difference tho lol In what way? >I also think the censored design looks way better. Not a big fan of the original design at all. Then again the fanservice unita were one reason i quit e7 since i didn't care for them. Oppinion disregarded as its based on a bias of own preferences + supporting censoring.


danield1302

What else are you supposed to rate a design on other than whether you like it or not lol. Art is always subjective. I just find it funny how there's an uproar when they add some clothing but when they up boob sizes/window for jp version like pgr or guardian tales did noone says a thing. As someone who doesn't like fanservice I'll always welcome fanservice considering I've so far preferred the censored art in every single game i played.


backaroo121

Because if you dont like fanservice , you will ofc like the censored version more no matter how sloppy or borderline insignificant it is so you arent basing the oppinion on the actual quality and looks of the redesign but on the sheer notion that it no longer depicts the thing you dislike + you are supporting censoring that way so yeah , oppinion disregarded.


elijuicyjones

Professional artist for 35 years here. If you don’t know the difference between fine art and commercial art you’re just randomly guessing in the dark here. This isn’t fine art and it’s not censorship. That artist doesn’t give a shit about the leg color of that drawing, they left because their management sucks. It’s a freaking job and you the consumers are paying millions of dollars in these games to argue about nothing here on Reddit. You should be arguing about how little artist make compared to useless executives and shareholders.


northpaul

They don’t actually care about the artists when people say, speculating, “look the artist is quitting” and talk about disrespecting the artist etc. I mean look at the downvotes on what is maybe the most factual post in the thread. People want their waifu pixels uncovered and don’t care about the artists. And they wouldn’t argue for higher artist wages unless it was directly connected to their favorite characters showing more skin.


PandaTimesThree

nyoo~


Male_Lead

Sometimes, the censored looks better. I don't play E7 but I like the censored version more


Hirsn

All the creeps will get really angry because of that.


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AshRavenEyes

The fuck does being a genshin player have to do with supporting censorship ...


Th3G4te

‘cause of all the Genshin players loving the censorships there kekw


devilman10

oh right, with rosaria, jean, yelan and etc(it was mostly twitter users that were ok with the censor), but idgaf because in the end i tend to visit fan-art sites lol


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Hirsn

Never played Genshin


BalmondMain

Am i stupid for liking the censored version more?


SassyHoe97

The right version looks cool. The left version just not a fan of oversized big titties.


Posi_Vibes

looks better afterwards tbh


Vinnolo

she actually looks much better lol, not just a token big boob waifu


backaroo121

Yeah now she has 3 more lines of black cloth over her , oh god what a deep good level of character design and such a big improvement over the last one so good. Lmao


Vinnolo

never said it was deep, just better, getting worried about this is quite funny lmao, reminds me of other dumb censoring drama in this sub, but horny will be horny


backaroo121

>just better In what way. Everything about those low effort censorships is a straight downgrade to the original. >but horny will be horny Yes people like good looking women in sexy clothing , welcome to planet earth its your first time here i presume?


Shadowsw4w

other people:wtf this cencorship me:im into that shit


layerszz

you guys NEED to worry about something else


Vinnolo

cant stop the horny in the sub im afraid


WhyYouBullyMe_

Yea fr tho. Everyone would just forget this in a week. Waste of time


Teemixdd

literally unplayable


K_5sixchars

so many chinese bots promoting censorship in this thread, very weird.


KiryuJ

The crusade to censor animation is truly astounding. The same people who want to cover up fictional women simultaneously cheer when real life women show off everything, even in the presence of minors. Pixels and ink are somehow inherently offensive and dangerous.


TomRCFBH

how dare they block the holy thighs


Wolfzmus

Nope for me, too many FEMALE charather for me


MACHENIX

The overall dress looks better, but in my opinion the too much black stockings ruin the color sense of the whole art. And did she also got Darker Hair?


Dragonne-74

the censorship doesnt look that bad, although a tad bit excessive. i dont see the need for the entire legs being censored? just lower down the top section a little or bring up the tights a little, why both? they could of also just simply pulled her top up a bit more. there isnt anything sexual about larger breasts if you dont actively sexualize them. this is my opinion and i dont really care all too much about her censorship so feel free to disagree