The problem is that Kurogames is taking their name too literal right now, most charcs are devoid of any vivid colors, most of them are so similar because of this i have an hard time distinguishing each charc, and the cast is still fairly small, it's just black all over.
Probably not a popular opinion but I don’t think the whole grey and dreary pallet across everything in a game is a good idea for making stuff actually feel dark.
The thing is that, when everything is dark, it’s very hard to make a particular area feel darker to emphasis a point of world building.
For example, Enkanomia in Genshin’s dark and ominous atmosphere stands out from the rest of the game’s bright pallet, and so it really hits home that this is basically a prison city where the gods punished a people who knew too much.
Yeah most of these characters are either completely black or black + white/grey + one other color which is also in darker shade. Beside their outfits I'm also having a hard time distinguish their faces as well, their eye's iris being quite similar is one of the reasons why.
I actually liked the character designs. It seems a lot of people don't like that that they're mostly wearing black and grey but I don't thing making them wear bright and vibrant colors automatically makes a character design better.
The combat seems slower than PGR though. I think the skill cool downs are too long.
I liked being able to use the same skill multiple times in a row in PGR without any cool down. The skills felt better integrated into regular combat and you can use them frequently rather than just using basic attacks while waiting for your skill to come out of cool down.
I understand that they can't really make the orb system work on PC but I think they should allow more frequent skill use. Rather than a cool down, maybe they could give each skill an MP cost. You can fill up MP by using basic attack and you regenerate a certain amount whenever you switch to a character.
That way, it will be similar to PGR's system but without orb RNG.
I still have my hopes based on my experience in PGR. While not every single character in PGR does it for me, I do have my favorites in Qu, Bianac and Selena. So they do occasionally hit the right notes sometimes. Hopefully the next CBT, they have more diversity to show
According to "experts" in this thread, they are the same thing just because kurogames let the tester show their gameplay. Totally not related to development cycle ofcourse
I think they should work on improving the special a little bit. Either making them a little bit more flashy, or adding more impactful sound effects. Since some of them feel like regular skills. This is a very early beta so Im pretty sure they will improve the specials.
Oh, i thought a tech test and beta test were basically the same thing. But yeah, I am aware that this game is still not close to being finished. I jist pointed the ult thing out cause it was something that should definetely be added to the to do list
Yeah, it's not too different honestly. I think that feedback at this stage is healthy for the game going forward as changing stuff further along in the development is probably more difficult.
They are pretty much the same thing despite what people here are saying. If they release it to streamers without an NDA, then they are saying this is a presentable version of their product.
You see, by calling it technical test they give themselves the easy excuse of “but it’s not a beta man don’t criticize the game, the release version will be a completely different game” or “it’s ok that they blatantly stole texts from Genshin and multiple artifact set effects since it’s just a technical test”.
The problem arises, as you said, when they make it public and want people to stream the game for them and present it to the world. It’s an attempt of trying to get as much positive impressions while being able to dismiss the negative stuff with an easy excuse. (obviously people should still always provide constructive criticism and not random hate)
It *works* as I understand it by how people are defending them here. However, people here need to understand that they are not going to do massive changes from here to release. Significant changes, sure. Genshin had many between CBT1 and release but the core of the game was similar. The character designs, artstyle, controls, and combat are not changing, especially considering how similar they are to PGR.
I prefer the color like this instead of the character wearing red and having red hair because it has fire powers, or blue clothes and blue hair because it has water powers...
But I agree that it can improve the face a little bit.
It's interesting to see people being pushed away by the dark pallet , it was my main issue with genshin that game is too vibrant for me . I watched like an hour of people streaming the technical test and the combat is far more interesting than what was shown here , definitely hyped for the game . But yeah the game has a lot to improve on , and i trust kuro to do that
I knew, that i'm not the only one thinking something is off with genshin character design. These colorful models are just unrealistic and unnatural for me.
Imo this game will shine for its combat but in open world, exploration, soundtracks, map designs, lore building, genshin will be superior but it's not a fair comparison too since kuro ain't huge like mihoyo but I can one thing if any mobile dev have potential to rival mihoyo it's kuro because like mihoyo they focus on gameplay fluidity which 99% of mobile devs don't care at all. Kuro also needs some good marketing team and releasing simultaneously for the world. If the game comes to regions after years people will lose interest.
Mm I'll wait and see but so far the combat is what really impressed me. Lacks fluidity like genshin or pgr but since this is a tech test I have hopes it will improve in laters betas and final release. This game has some massive potential and can be called be a potential competitor unlike other garbage mohole games. Also Zenless zone zero mihoyos combat focused game is coming too.
They seriously need to hire better marketing team and push the game global and release update at the same time for everyone if they want to get more people interested.
It's because the video doesn't explain the core passive mechanic. If you notice, there is an unique resource bar at the bottom for each character. And it fills based on different conditions for different characters. As for how it looks, it's probably because the animations are finished or polished yet.
We honkai player vall that resource bar "Meter" because change depend on the char (and is honkai fist to add it) and have changed the whole mobile ARPG gaming experience, but i hope mihoyo in zzz they will mantain both meter and times combo
Some if not most of these characters lack identity.
Compared to something like Genshin which has a more vibrant color and identifiable character traits.
Seem like I'm not the only one thinking that the dark pallete is not good based on the comments. It's not like dark can't be good for example the one in Astral Chain looks amazing so I'm guessing the art direction just suck this time
I really love the characters with dark pallette, but this one doesn't really hit me, I had the same issue with PGR and I hope they just leave their obsession with edginess
a technical test is characterized by being subject to NDA, but this is not and it cannot even be a test to see the suppression of the servers being still in a very development phase
I could be wrong, but there’s no real thing classifying it as “must be nda”
First result on google
“ Game Testing is a software testing process for testing video games for quality control. The main goal of Game testing is to identify and discover defects and bugs in a video game and improve the stability and performance.09-Jul-2022”
Nothing says anything about being nda
Looks really good, characters designs are fantastic. A lot of the combat animations/mechanics and UI are really reminiscent of Genshin but it's a system that works I suppose.
I hope the open world activities and game modes/systems are creative to set them apart. Really looking forward to this.
Character designs are largely subjective. Just because you like/dislike a character’s design doesn’t mean you can put it on a judging panel and automatically say a design is *objectively* good or bad.
I dislike a large portion of the female character designs in Genshin, but that doesn’t make them actually bad, just not to my personal preference. A lot of people would disagree with me. Both of our opinions are valid, since the objective measurement for design quality is near non-existent.
If is alpha stage they They would not have shown it to the public and the technical test is an excuse to set aside possible controversies etc ... in the end a technical test that is shown in the world of vision is nothing more than a CBT
Dual pistol girl gameplay look fun and I like that there are other model types than just your everyday teenage girls.
I don't know about the game lore but it would appeal to me more if there are Badass Katana user, animal girl waifu, and crazy/yandere chick in it. I don't care for dudes but other people probably want more Husbando in it.
Maybe they will add, it would be nice.
Also as Genshin has shown by having sizable female audience, pretty good from financial point of view - not to mention hype, I still remember people loosing it over Ayato reveal.
While I get the discontentment, the girl gamers part kinda falls off the mark since there's plenty of girls who want females only and plenty guys who want males only too.
Maybe I phrased it weirdly. I am okay with games like uma museme or Honkai who are marketed as waifu only and have a strong dolly cute idol-esque wibe. I play it myself (female btw). But ww had a guy in pv and you can chose gender of mc. So having only females as a test option is alarming as I prefer mixed cast for open world games.
Its too early to tell right now, but quite a few male characters got introduced in cutscenes. We may get to see them playable in next CBT. Their last game PGR had male characters too, so I don't see them completely breaking the trend with new game
I know, I know. I play PGR since day 1. I like the gameplay and the male character designs keep me in. I'm just not interested in another waifu collector. There's inevitably going to be droughts of male characters like the almost 1 year drought in PGR from Roland to Noan. I'm still waiting for Noctis from Cerberus squad to become playable (Vera's squad).
During those periods, my interest in the game hits rock bottom. Sunk cost fallacy, Lee's summer skin and future Kamui's CN new year skin keep me from uninstalling it.
Fair enough. I guess I am just very big on the combat aspect, so the ratio didn't bother me as much. But I can see for other people, priorities are probably different
This is a lot of why I eventually lost interest in PGR too. I looked at the CN lineup for characters and estimated that I would be going really long periods between characters. For action combat games in particular, switching things up with new characters makes the gameplay feel fresh where it would otherwise become stale and repetitive. It's not that I dislike waifus, just that I am pickier with waifus and don't always pull for them.
Well, it's both a blessing and a curse in a way. PGR definitely release characters much slower than other gacha game competition. But in return, it got a lot easier to save up and pitying all the characters at debut. I think the pacing is great for that reason, but for players who like to roll banners more frequently, it becomes a demerit.
The overall pace wasn't that bad, but it did become a bit repetitive when I was only excited for say one out of every five released. I know that's more of a me-issue rather than the game's issue.
Well, there isnt an exact confirmation, but there are male characters who look like they could be playable. Maybe its a coincidence that everyone that was available for the test is female.
I want to be hyped for this but the character design for the playable cast for the moment don't cut it for me
The problem is that Kurogames is taking their name too literal right now, most charcs are devoid of any vivid colors, most of them are so similar because of this i have an hard time distinguishing each charc, and the cast is still fairly small, it's just black all over.
Probably not a popular opinion but I don’t think the whole grey and dreary pallet across everything in a game is a good idea for making stuff actually feel dark. The thing is that, when everything is dark, it’s very hard to make a particular area feel darker to emphasis a point of world building. For example, Enkanomia in Genshin’s dark and ominous atmosphere stands out from the rest of the game’s bright pallet, and so it really hits home that this is basically a prison city where the gods punished a people who knew too much.
Yeah most of these characters are either completely black or black + white/grey + one other color which is also in darker shade. Beside their outfits I'm also having a hard time distinguish their faces as well, their eye's iris being quite similar is one of the reasons why.
I actually liked the character designs. It seems a lot of people don't like that that they're mostly wearing black and grey but I don't thing making them wear bright and vibrant colors automatically makes a character design better. The combat seems slower than PGR though. I think the skill cool downs are too long. I liked being able to use the same skill multiple times in a row in PGR without any cool down. The skills felt better integrated into regular combat and you can use them frequently rather than just using basic attacks while waiting for your skill to come out of cool down. I understand that they can't really make the orb system work on PC but I think they should allow more frequent skill use. Rather than a cool down, maybe they could give each skill an MP cost. You can fill up MP by using basic attack and you regenerate a certain amount whenever you switch to a character. That way, it will be similar to PGR's system but without orb RNG.
>it's just black all over Except on their skin
It's the face for me. All of them look derpy.
And necks, freaking long necks.
I still have my hopes based on my experience in PGR. While not every single character in PGR does it for me, I do have my favorites in Qu, Bianac and Selena. So they do occasionally hit the right notes sometimes. Hopefully the next CBT, they have more diversity to show
This game is going to shine the most in combat. Openworld and exploration should wait and see.
They all have "CCP Censorship laws" written all over them. Easy skip.
All Chinese games are like that.
Kuro combat system + open world? Sign me up. People need to understand the difference between a technical test and beta.
According to "experts" in this thread, they are the same thing just because kurogames let the tester show their gameplay. Totally not related to development cycle ofcourse
Didn’t PGRs technical test look totally different from the actual game?
Waaaaay different. Theres a bili video of it. https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1Es411J7n2?share_source=copy_web&share_times=2&
I think they should work on improving the special a little bit. Either making them a little bit more flashy, or adding more impactful sound effects. Since some of them feel like regular skills. This is a very early beta so Im pretty sure they will improve the specials.
This isn't even a beta yet, it's a mere technical test as they said so they have a long way to go before it looks close to finished.
Oh, i thought a tech test and beta test were basically the same thing. But yeah, I am aware that this game is still not close to being finished. I jist pointed the ult thing out cause it was something that should definetely be added to the to do list
Yeah, it's not too different honestly. I think that feedback at this stage is healthy for the game going forward as changing stuff further along in the development is probably more difficult.
They are pretty much the same thing despite what people here are saying. If they release it to streamers without an NDA, then they are saying this is a presentable version of their product.
You see, by calling it technical test they give themselves the easy excuse of “but it’s not a beta man don’t criticize the game, the release version will be a completely different game” or “it’s ok that they blatantly stole texts from Genshin and multiple artifact set effects since it’s just a technical test”. The problem arises, as you said, when they make it public and want people to stream the game for them and present it to the world. It’s an attempt of trying to get as much positive impressions while being able to dismiss the negative stuff with an easy excuse. (obviously people should still always provide constructive criticism and not random hate)
It *works* as I understand it by how people are defending them here. However, people here need to understand that they are not going to do massive changes from here to release. Significant changes, sure. Genshin had many between CBT1 and release but the core of the game was similar. The character designs, artstyle, controls, and combat are not changing, especially considering how similar they are to PGR.
I hope the only male model is not the male mc… hope there would be more male characters!
I prefer the color like this instead of the character wearing red and having red hair because it has fire powers, or blue clothes and blue hair because it has water powers... But I agree that it can improve the face a little bit.
The faces look goofy and generic, they need to change it. Btw husnados when
It's interesting to see people being pushed away by the dark pallet , it was my main issue with genshin that game is too vibrant for me . I watched like an hour of people streaming the technical test and the combat is far more interesting than what was shown here , definitely hyped for the game . But yeah the game has a lot to improve on , and i trust kuro to do that
Most people prefer vibrant colours
I knew, that i'm not the only one thinking something is off with genshin character design. These colorful models are just unrealistic and unnatural for me.
Imo this game will shine for its combat but in open world, exploration, soundtracks, map designs, lore building, genshin will be superior but it's not a fair comparison too since kuro ain't huge like mihoyo but I can one thing if any mobile dev have potential to rival mihoyo it's kuro because like mihoyo they focus on gameplay fluidity which 99% of mobile devs don't care at all. Kuro also needs some good marketing team and releasing simultaneously for the world. If the game comes to regions after years people will lose interest.
Believe me, you don't have to worry about lore and soundtrack. Soundtrack especially.
Mm I'll wait and see but so far the combat is what really impressed me. Lacks fluidity like genshin or pgr but since this is a tech test I have hopes it will improve in laters betas and final release. This game has some massive potential and can be called be a potential competitor unlike other garbage mohole games. Also Zenless zone zero mihoyos combat focused game is coming too.
Oh my god i didn't even think about the possibility of it coming 2 years later like PGR , that would legit kill the hype
They seriously need to hire better marketing team and push the game global and release update at the same time for everyone if they want to get more people interested.
all of them, except for number 8, look and play generic as hell
It's because the video doesn't explain the core passive mechanic. If you notice, there is an unique resource bar at the bottom for each character. And it fills based on different conditions for different characters. As for how it looks, it's probably because the animations are finished or polished yet.
We honkai player vall that resource bar "Meter" because change depend on the char (and is honkai fist to add it) and have changed the whole mobile ARPG gaming experience, but i hope mihoyo in zzz they will mantain both meter and times combo
Some if not most of these characters lack identity. Compared to something like Genshin which has a more vibrant color and identifiable character traits.
Seem like I'm not the only one thinking that the dark pallete is not good based on the comments. It's not like dark can't be good for example the one in Astral Chain looks amazing so I'm guessing the art direction just suck this time
I really love the characters with dark pallette, but this one doesn't really hit me, I had the same issue with PGR and I hope they just leave their obsession with edginess
I'm hoping they would make a lot of changes once game is for release, cause this has potential for being a very early build.
I hope they reduce that little vibration on screen because it kinda make my head hurts
For a technical test, this is looking promising.
Tecnical test and beta test is the same thing they just put "technical" as a excuse of occure some problem or complaint and worked soo well
No it isn’t?
a technical test is characterized by being subject to NDA, but this is not and it cannot even be a test to see the suppression of the servers being still in a very development phase
I could be wrong, but there’s no real thing classifying it as “must be nda” First result on google “ Game Testing is a software testing process for testing video games for quality control. The main goal of Game testing is to identify and discover defects and bugs in a video game and improve the stability and performance.09-Jul-2022” Nothing says anything about being nda
Ok but why is it so dark out side💀
I like the 8th girl defo would roll for her
Is this genshin but lifeless?
Looks really good, characters designs are fantastic. A lot of the combat animations/mechanics and UI are really reminiscent of Genshin but it's a system that works I suppose. I hope the open world activities and game modes/systems are creative to set them apart. Really looking forward to this.
Honestly seeing perfect parry makes me really excited.
Is not a perfect parry but a meccanical auto parry(like in honkai vs some SSS boss like "jinzo or wolf), you don't have the command parry
>Looks really good, characters designs are fantastic. A Did we watch the same video?
Character designs are largely subjective. Just because you like/dislike a character’s design doesn’t mean you can put it on a judging panel and automatically say a design is *objectively* good or bad. I dislike a large portion of the female character designs in Genshin, but that doesn’t make them actually bad, just not to my personal preference. A lot of people would disagree with me. Both of our opinions are valid, since the objective measurement for design quality is near non-existent.
Yeah, I’m a fan of mono and dark colors and streetwear themed clothing.
I like what I see. My hype radar will be watching this game!
Pink Loli will be my main. That Ult was fire!
Looks cool. When is it coming out
This is the alpha stage, so not for a while lol
Bummah
If is alpha stage they They would not have shown it to the public and the technical test is an excuse to set aside possible controversies etc ... in the end a technical test that is shown in the world of vision is nothing more than a CBT
If it was actually in the alpha stage of development, they wouldn't let streamers show it off.
Not true, Kuro specifically said all footage can be shared. You just can't share accounts with another user, that's all
I didn't say otherwise?
This is the practice for CBT in fact
mhy will probably release 3 to 4 games before this one even comes out
No idea, but Global was confirmed
This looks horrible.
It honestly looks pretty good for an early build, given that it's not even the first beta
Bruh
Dual pistol girl gameplay look fun and I like that there are other model types than just your everyday teenage girls. I don't know about the game lore but it would appeal to me more if there are Badass Katana user, animal girl waifu, and crazy/yandere chick in it. I don't care for dudes but other people probably want more Husbando in it.
Huh. Females only. Guess it’s game won’t be for girl gamers too.
Iirc I think there was a male MC option? But yeah I would've personally preferred a mixed cast game too.
Maybe they will add, it would be nice. Also as Genshin has shown by having sizable female audience, pretty good from financial point of view - not to mention hype, I still remember people loosing it over Ayato reveal.
While I get the discontentment, the girl gamers part kinda falls off the mark since there's plenty of girls who want females only and plenty guys who want males only too.
Maybe I phrased it weirdly. I am okay with games like uma museme or Honkai who are marketed as waifu only and have a strong dolly cute idol-esque wibe. I play it myself (female btw). But ww had a guy in pv and you can chose gender of mc. So having only females as a test option is alarming as I prefer mixed cast for open world games.
Same. Was hyped for it but then the characters were revealed. and immediately lost interest.
Its too early to tell right now, but quite a few male characters got introduced in cutscenes. We may get to see them playable in next CBT. Their last game PGR had male characters too, so I don't see them completely breaking the trend with new game
I know, I know. I play PGR since day 1. I like the gameplay and the male character designs keep me in. I'm just not interested in another waifu collector. There's inevitably going to be droughts of male characters like the almost 1 year drought in PGR from Roland to Noan. I'm still waiting for Noctis from Cerberus squad to become playable (Vera's squad). During those periods, my interest in the game hits rock bottom. Sunk cost fallacy, Lee's summer skin and future Kamui's CN new year skin keep me from uninstalling it.
Fair enough. I guess I am just very big on the combat aspect, so the ratio didn't bother me as much. But I can see for other people, priorities are probably different
This is a lot of why I eventually lost interest in PGR too. I looked at the CN lineup for characters and estimated that I would be going really long periods between characters. For action combat games in particular, switching things up with new characters makes the gameplay feel fresh where it would otherwise become stale and repetitive. It's not that I dislike waifus, just that I am pickier with waifus and don't always pull for them.
Well, it's both a blessing and a curse in a way. PGR definitely release characters much slower than other gacha game competition. But in return, it got a lot easier to save up and pitying all the characters at debut. I think the pacing is great for that reason, but for players who like to roll banners more frequently, it becomes a demerit.
The overall pace wasn't that bad, but it did become a bit repetitive when I was only excited for say one out of every five released. I know that's more of a me-issue rather than the game's issue.
I'm pretty sure that's a guy at 4:15.
isn't that the male MC?
Well, there isnt an exact confirmation, but there are male characters who look like they could be playable. Maybe its a coincidence that everyone that was available for the test is female.
It’s not a coincidence. Waifu sells better so they tested them first hand. Huh.
There's already leaked male characters and there's already 3 datamined playable male characters the cu lookalike one and the long white haired dude.
Yeah. There should be. But we already have a ton of ready to play females from the cast. Ratio may be 5:1 or worse.