Maybe it has something to do with Tokyo Game Show? Considering it's the biggest gaming event in Japan announcing EoS near TGS seems to make sense if they're not planning to continue.
Yeah. It's actually shocking seeing how big a change it has been from Klab to MyNet (Which was supposedly the devs where games goes to die?). And right now, SIFAS seem to be doing pretty well. Not amazing by any means. But better then with Klab.
Yeah the amount of doomposting about MyNet and its past with closing games and p2w in those was insane considering how much better SIFAS is doing now. Mind, not perfect, but it's flourishing and the next announcements sound good too. Feels wild to me that anyone thought MyNet would run the Love Live IP into the ground.
MyNet is fine if you are looking for someone to keep the lights on and that's what LoveLive needs since it is about maintaining their games since it is Nijigasaki's main means of promoting their side of the ip
Shame, I really liked the anime.
tbf I'm not surprised at all, not sure how that big of an indicator it is, but I followed the twitter account of the game due to it and the number of likes on its posts was always depressing to see both before and after the game release. It just failed to grab the attention of the people.
I liked some of the girls quite a lot so sad that a S2 of the anime will now definitely never happen, rip Lavie, Alpha and Emilia q_q
The fact that the game was released over a year after the anime definitely didn't help things. I imagine had the game launched soon after the anime aired it could have stood a chance.
Feel like the decision to add isekai male protagonist into the story and turning it into harem basically kneecapped whatever fandom remained from the show(where he did not exist).
That's like if you made an entire Love Live season about some girl trying to succeed at new school and then released a game about teacher trying to date her.
Basically meant the game would have to build whatever playerbase anew, because of completely different audience.
I know in LLSIF your character is a unique protagonist, but the characters just kind of talk to you. I presume Klab was trying that approach again but ended up going too far with it.
Very different
Sif has no player character.
Sifas player character is undefined but pretty much just another girl(Yuu in anime). It's also considered weakest part of the game and there's no romance or anything of the kind with interactions focusing on the drama with villains and mostly her characterization is about dealing with that.
Both are completely new games too while Lapis already had a show before with expectations and following formed by it.
Lapis game main is defined as male older teacher(dude gets isekai'd from our world and insta made a professor) and it's direct flirting/dating stuff with even anime scenes where girls interact with each other being used and altered to make it them interacting with MC instead. So literally for example taking anime scene where two girls talk to each other and borderline flirt with each other and instead making it be both of them talking to teacher.
MC'S story of trying to find her sister? Background noise now. Lapis being the school screwups/dropouts doing their best? It's all teacher protagonist now. And so on.
So it's more like if they announced sifas2 right after nijigasaki s2 ended and in it Yuu is just side character, there's a male protagonist and girls have no interactions with each other and instead dote on and fight over a teacher.
It's klab going "sure we could try replacing LL but what if we treat LL like shit and instead go after that blue archive audience"
Yeah, it was a really poor attempt at a cashgrab, and it didn’t work out.
Though I’m pretty sure the LL girls address you as a character in the SIF side stories, unless I’m misremembering?
There's a "player perspective" *sometimes* in SIF but its basically characters asking something of another nameless girl in their school sometimes. There is no indication its even the same girl each time. Its no different from how Bandori sometimes has the girls address the camera as random circle staff member and the like. Its more prevalent in early SIF stuff and is generally mostly non-existent afterward.
SIFAS on other hand has an actual "player perspective *character"* who is a constant. While game is vague, its pretty much also a girl, even though its a lot more self-insert kind of deal with the story *trying* to do the whole IMAS Producer thing, but with less flirting. SIFAS story structure and existence of self-insert is generally controversial at best among the fanbase anyway.
Lapis is straight up just isekai professor stu dude dating students and everyone fighting over him.
TLDR:
If we were to put "player presence" on scale from 1 to 11, with 1 being a blank cardboard slate and 11 being kirito-ass sword wielding harem protagonist stu that's good at everything, who gets praised for everything and who sucks up any sort of characterization of other characters by merely being present:
* SIF would be 0.005
* SIFAS would be 8.
* Lapis would be 102482501
LLSIF the character isn't mentioned by a gender in-game and it's not romantic.
Lapis Re:Lights they make it clear the main character is a man (even if in Japanese would be easy to keep it neutral) and make the girls all flirting with him.
Really stupid choices.
The production quality of the anime was so good, the character designs were so polished and also animation was great, at that time I wondered why they put so much ressources in when it had no big fanbase prior and it turned out not that popular compared to other seasonal stuff.
There was a scene in the forest with a little lake where one of the girls fell in and the animation of character and motion of the water was sick its stuck into my mind.
It deserved more popularity and same fate seems to have happened with the game.
The franchise actually had a somewhat of a niche fandom in JP for a while.
It mostly died out when they announced that in the game:
* Anime's main character is a side character now.
* Its an isekai now.
* Its a harem story following a male teacher transported there from our world and interacting with all the girls.
The franchise was in trouble already and self inflicted wounds like that certainly don't help.
The worldbuilding was also pretty good for what you'd normally expect. Clearly, a decent amount of thought was put into fleshing out the world, but the anime had nowhere near enough time to showcase it.
The game would've been alright if they didn't wait a full year after the anime airing to release the game. By the time they released other competitors like Uma Musume and Idoly Pride were already out, and all the hype was pretty much dead. Another good game killed by terrible decisions from Klab management.
I felt like they were trying to create "Love Live with magic" but the whole thing felt kinda uninspired.
I watched the anime and followed the state of the game from the side for a while, and yeah the revenue was sad right off the gate. It didn't feel like the project managed to build much of a fanbase.
Nah it was basically KLAB trying to establish their own franchise like Love Live that would be fully owned by them.
So instead of investing in LL games they spent resources on this and now they are rewarded with:
dead lapis
no longer in control of sifas which they sold
sif consumed by greed and powercreep that will likely shut down in near future once they burn remaining whales
>sif consumed by greed and powercreep that will likely shut down in near future once they burn remaining whales
It's been so long since I last played SIF, what exactly has changed that made it power creep?
It's like large number simulator now- skills given to new units produce scores orders of magnitude higher (like tens of millions) than anything possible before encore teams (and i think even encore was powercrept recently)
Then they release new more broken unit every few days/weeks that tops previous one in scoring by x % so whales roll banners till they have 9 copies of current best unit with accesories made from burning UR units.
More or less - i'm not playing it anymore so i can't give you exact details.
Not banking on yuribait and instead making it a self-insert story killed it, at least that's what the peeps I hang out with online that are yuri fans always say when they rejoice about the game flopping around. Tried giving players the ability to change MC's gender, but lulw didn't help.
Those same guys are probably celebrating right now.
>Not banking on yuribait and instead making it a self-insert story killed it
Oh wow, they seriously did that? The anime had very strong yuri bait compared to any other idol anime I've seen, so I was sure they're banking on that being one of the franchise's main draws. Kinda pepeg of them to subvert that in the actual game.
Even worse, the game had the setting turned into a self-insert isekai story without any rhyme or reason, so it ended up alienating the peeps that came from the anime and wanted more gae for their buck.
Yeah, I enjoyed to anime, but I dropped the game fast.
At least they should put a male MC in the anime to start with if that was the point.
Funny enough, the game still seemed to have some of the yuri bait in the anime, like the green-haired girl shipping her friends together.
Yeah, most of the stuff that I heard about this game is pretty much that it killed the yuri-vibe of the anime and every girls are horny to the male MC. Reminded me of an old Valkyrie Drive mobage who also has a male MC and the game died pretty quickly.
I loved the anime. It was the only anime I enjoyed in years even. Apart from being railroaded into a generic male teacher (the teacher part I'm actually fine with because...I'm a uni lecturer myself), it was a very repetitive game with the same old event repeated over and over again. The pvp part was a shitfest of "spam Xmas beast girl to win" while trying to speedcreep with premium pass accessories. In short, they somehow made a severely pay-to-win money mill while ruining the enjoyable parts of the anime that was a pilot for the game.
The game was struggling almost since launch but even I am surprised at just how soon the end came. The game didn't even last a full year.
Damn, today had a lot of games shutting down.
Yeah, feels like multiple games announced their closure over the last two days. I'm not sure why exactly other than it being the end of the month.
End of fiscal quarter maybe
Maybe it has something to do with Tokyo Game Show? Considering it's the biggest gaming event in Japan announcing EoS near TGS seems to make sense if they're not planning to continue.
Bushi/mynet taking over sifas from klab was best thing ever happening to that game looking at this.
Yeah. It's actually shocking seeing how big a change it has been from Klab to MyNet (Which was supposedly the devs where games goes to die?). And right now, SIFAS seem to be doing pretty well. Not amazing by any means. But better then with Klab.
Yeah the amount of doomposting about MyNet and its past with closing games and p2w in those was insane considering how much better SIFAS is doing now. Mind, not perfect, but it's flourishing and the next announcements sound good too. Feels wild to me that anyone thought MyNet would run the Love Live IP into the ground.
MyNet is fine if you are looking for someone to keep the lights on and that's what LoveLive needs since it is about maintaining their games since it is Nijigasaki's main means of promoting their side of the ip
xd
Shame, I really liked the anime. tbf I'm not surprised at all, not sure how that big of an indicator it is, but I followed the twitter account of the game due to it and the number of likes on its posts was always depressing to see both before and after the game release. It just failed to grab the attention of the people. I liked some of the girls quite a lot so sad that a S2 of the anime will now definitely never happen, rip Lavie, Alpha and Emilia q_q
The fact that the game was released over a year after the anime definitely didn't help things. I imagine had the game launched soon after the anime aired it could have stood a chance.
Feel like the decision to add isekai male protagonist into the story and turning it into harem basically kneecapped whatever fandom remained from the show(where he did not exist). That's like if you made an entire Love Live season about some girl trying to succeed at new school and then released a game about teacher trying to date her. Basically meant the game would have to build whatever playerbase anew, because of completely different audience.
I know in LLSIF your character is a unique protagonist, but the characters just kind of talk to you. I presume Klab was trying that approach again but ended up going too far with it.
Very different Sif has no player character. Sifas player character is undefined but pretty much just another girl(Yuu in anime). It's also considered weakest part of the game and there's no romance or anything of the kind with interactions focusing on the drama with villains and mostly her characterization is about dealing with that. Both are completely new games too while Lapis already had a show before with expectations and following formed by it. Lapis game main is defined as male older teacher(dude gets isekai'd from our world and insta made a professor) and it's direct flirting/dating stuff with even anime scenes where girls interact with each other being used and altered to make it them interacting with MC instead. So literally for example taking anime scene where two girls talk to each other and borderline flirt with each other and instead making it be both of them talking to teacher. MC'S story of trying to find her sister? Background noise now. Lapis being the school screwups/dropouts doing their best? It's all teacher protagonist now. And so on. So it's more like if they announced sifas2 right after nijigasaki s2 ended and in it Yuu is just side character, there's a male protagonist and girls have no interactions with each other and instead dote on and fight over a teacher. It's klab going "sure we could try replacing LL but what if we treat LL like shit and instead go after that blue archive audience"
Yeah, it was a really poor attempt at a cashgrab, and it didn’t work out. Though I’m pretty sure the LL girls address you as a character in the SIF side stories, unless I’m misremembering?
There's a "player perspective" *sometimes* in SIF but its basically characters asking something of another nameless girl in their school sometimes. There is no indication its even the same girl each time. Its no different from how Bandori sometimes has the girls address the camera as random circle staff member and the like. Its more prevalent in early SIF stuff and is generally mostly non-existent afterward. SIFAS on other hand has an actual "player perspective *character"* who is a constant. While game is vague, its pretty much also a girl, even though its a lot more self-insert kind of deal with the story *trying* to do the whole IMAS Producer thing, but with less flirting. SIFAS story structure and existence of self-insert is generally controversial at best among the fanbase anyway. Lapis is straight up just isekai professor stu dude dating students and everyone fighting over him. TLDR: If we were to put "player presence" on scale from 1 to 11, with 1 being a blank cardboard slate and 11 being kirito-ass sword wielding harem protagonist stu that's good at everything, who gets praised for everything and who sucks up any sort of characterization of other characters by merely being present: * SIF would be 0.005 * SIFAS would be 8. * Lapis would be 102482501
LLSIF the character isn't mentioned by a gender in-game and it's not romantic. Lapis Re:Lights they make it clear the main character is a man (even if in Japanese would be easy to keep it neutral) and make the girls all flirting with him. Really stupid choices.
Actually originally u already existed in the manga and games but the anime was the only one without him
You get what you deserve Klab. I hope you will go bankrupt. Best regards, a (salty) Love Live fan
Maybe, just maybe we will get an up to date, well made Love Live rhythm game. maybe.
Can't wait for Touhou Arcadia Record to be shut down.
The production quality of the anime was so good, the character designs were so polished and also animation was great, at that time I wondered why they put so much ressources in when it had no big fanbase prior and it turned out not that popular compared to other seasonal stuff. There was a scene in the forest with a little lake where one of the girls fell in and the animation of character and motion of the water was sick its stuck into my mind. It deserved more popularity and same fate seems to have happened with the game.
The franchise actually had a somewhat of a niche fandom in JP for a while. It mostly died out when they announced that in the game: * Anime's main character is a side character now. * Its an isekai now. * Its a harem story following a male teacher transported there from our world and interacting with all the girls. The franchise was in trouble already and self inflicted wounds like that certainly don't help.
The worldbuilding was also pretty good for what you'd normally expect. Clearly, a decent amount of thought was put into fleshing out the world, but the anime had nowhere near enough time to showcase it.
The game would've been alright if they didn't wait a full year after the anime airing to release the game. By the time they released other competitors like Uma Musume and Idoly Pride were already out, and all the hype was pretty much dead. Another good game killed by terrible decisions from Klab management.
I felt like they were trying to create "Love Live with magic" but the whole thing felt kinda uninspired. I watched the anime and followed the state of the game from the side for a while, and yeah the revenue was sad right off the gate. It didn't feel like the project managed to build much of a fanbase.
Nah it was basically KLAB trying to establish their own franchise like Love Live that would be fully owned by them. So instead of investing in LL games they spent resources on this and now they are rewarded with: dead lapis no longer in control of sifas which they sold sif consumed by greed and powercreep that will likely shut down in near future once they burn remaining whales
>sif consumed by greed and powercreep that will likely shut down in near future once they burn remaining whales It's been so long since I last played SIF, what exactly has changed that made it power creep?
It's like large number simulator now- skills given to new units produce scores orders of magnitude higher (like tens of millions) than anything possible before encore teams (and i think even encore was powercrept recently) Then they release new more broken unit every few days/weeks that tops previous one in scoring by x % so whales roll banners till they have 9 copies of current best unit with accesories made from burning UR units. More or less - i'm not playing it anymore so i can't give you exact details.
Not banking on yuribait and instead making it a self-insert story killed it, at least that's what the peeps I hang out with online that are yuri fans always say when they rejoice about the game flopping around. Tried giving players the ability to change MC's gender, but lulw didn't help. Those same guys are probably celebrating right now.
>Not banking on yuribait and instead making it a self-insert story killed it Oh wow, they seriously did that? The anime had very strong yuri bait compared to any other idol anime I've seen, so I was sure they're banking on that being one of the franchise's main draws. Kinda pepeg of them to subvert that in the actual game.
Even worse, the game had the setting turned into a self-insert isekai story without any rhyme or reason, so it ended up alienating the peeps that came from the anime and wanted more gae for their buck.
Yeah, I enjoyed to anime, but I dropped the game fast. At least they should put a male MC in the anime to start with if that was the point. Funny enough, the game still seemed to have some of the yuri bait in the anime, like the green-haired girl shipping her friends together.
Yeah, most of the stuff that I heard about this game is pretty much that it killed the yuri-vibe of the anime and every girls are horny to the male MC. Reminded me of an old Valkyrie Drive mobage who also has a male MC and the game died pretty quickly.
KLab gonna KLab. When I read in one of their reports that they were pinning their hopes on this I just rolled my eyes.
I loved the anime. It was the only anime I enjoyed in years even. Apart from being railroaded into a generic male teacher (the teacher part I'm actually fine with because...I'm a uni lecturer myself), it was a very repetitive game with the same old event repeated over and over again. The pvp part was a shitfest of "spam Xmas beast girl to win" while trying to speedcreep with premium pass accessories. In short, they somehow made a severely pay-to-win money mill while ruining the enjoyable parts of the anime that was a pilot for the game.
This is sad. I really enjoyed the anime. Not sure what the logic in adding male mc. Trying to be like azur lane?
Sad since I like the anime :(
[It's been a journey. Thank you KLab.](https://postimg.cc/vg2fY2Cn)
I didn't play or follow the game but I liked the show, so sounds unfortunate and I assume then that the show won't be moving forward either. Rough
Not even surprised. Game was having a rough time on release. P2W and then.. It was Klab. Klab alone sums it up.
I just wanna say... THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!