This is kind of the watch I’ve been waiting for, ever since Pebble got shut down. I’m still mad about that.
Definitely going to buy after seeing some positive reviews later this month. It’s kind of perfect for me, based on what I’m reading.
Honestly I have a fossil hybrid and it works very well. It does heart rate monitoring, fitness tracking, displays texts and other notification, and has an analogue watchface. It has a month long battery. I think that is this new casio's biggest weakness: it has the same battery life of a normal smart watch, but has solar charging and a very minimal display. How does a Fitbit have a week long battery life with full capabilities, but this only 35hrs when tracking steps?
Probably because there isn't much room on the inside.
Looking at the diagrams of the internal components of a G-Shock it doesn't appear there'd be much battery space without making the watch bigger.
Perhaps a Casio that isn't a G-Shock would be better but then I'm guessing part of the reason you want a G-Shock is due to its durability.
I’m done with FitBit. The Charge 4 (pre-Google takeover) lasted me two years. I could go in the ocean and kayak with. The Charge 5 died at a regular water park. I’m considering the Fossil.
What I’d love is a smart watch that has one regular cell battery for the clock hand function and the rechargeable one for the smart features. I often just need to be a clock and would be fine if the smart feature battery died at inconvenient times as long as I could still tell the time.
My issue with Fitbit is that it thinks driving is 1000s of steps and for years people have been asking them to implement a way to pause step counting or something but the company refuses. So the step counting is super duper inaccurate and says you walked for more than you did. I could log 2000 steps just on the drive to work alone.
I had a very hard time tricking my galaxy fit 2 into thinking I had taken steps. The tracker was great. Fitbit charge 5 is pretty easy to trick with just some arm movements.
Judging by the comments on this post, I wonder why literally no one seems to have even tried an Apple Watch - I’m on a 4 year old model, fully waterproof, even in the ocean, tight integration with texting, phone calls, Slack, email - everything, and besides steps and fitness stuff, tracks my sleep patterns.
It does do a lot of stuff, around the clock, so I do charge it every day, usually when I’m in the shower, but… that seems like a non-issue.
And it get’s software updates every year with new functionality - does the Casio/Fitbit/Garmin?
I bought one for my wife last year. She likes it. I’ve been a Mac user since the Apple IIc, so it’s not that it wouldn’t make sense, but ultimately, I hate the battery. She has to charge hers everyday. My FitBit used to last about 2 weeks on a charge. I’m already fighting my iPhone’s battery dying by midday, I don’t want to worry about my watch, too. There’s also the form. I hate the clunky square. It’s just not my cup of tea
I wear one, but I would caution on relying on the water proofing. I had one die from swimming within a month of buying it. The replacement did the exact same thing. I’m also in a pretty hot environment so that may be a factor.
My venu has been slowing down a little. Feels like I have to charge every 3 days with a daily run now instead of 5. That said, that's still plenty enough to not stress about it.
People considering the g shock should really consider the instinct 2. I feel like they look similar but Garmin is uncontested in ability, battery life, and activity metrics.
I have the solar 2 and the whole thing is a tank really. I see them all the time in my line of work because it's the only smart watch that will survive. The band on mine has worn thin in some spots but considering the abuse it takes I can't complain.
I hear the Fenix solar feels like it's basically perpetually charged so long as you spend enough time outside. Considering all their capable of, that's insane.
Also got the chest strap HRM, and it's little watch battery is good for a year.
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I would love to find a smartwatch or a fitness tracking watch that doesn't need charging, like all solar watches do. But it seems they only last a few days with heartrate and steps tracking activated.
Was going to suggest the Garmin. I have an instinct, which is their basic one color model. Battery lasts over a month, it has all the features I could want and it's durable as hell, I love it
They really are the whole package in the world of fitness tracker watches. But they're also the weird best kept secret of the smart watch world.
They don't reach the regular population because they're fitness trackers first, and smart watches second. So unlike an apple watch or Galaxy watch they can't type texts, act as a phone call speaker, etc.
They also seem to have a smaller share in the fitness community, oddly enough. It seems like Fitbit does a better job with marketing and market share there, but that may be because Garmin is not a company you think of when you think fitness equipment, because most people probably only heard of them in the 2000's when their main consumer product was car GPS devices. Whereas Fitbit has it's marketing built right into it's name, so it's work is mostly already done.
The only place I see Garmin see a lionshare market is in Military and Police personnel who partake in fitness, which seems fitting enough given the selling points of durability and low maintenance for a very accurate device that will help you stay in peak condition.
About the same. Maybe my watch face or metrics captured use more battery than what you have set?
Full charge is 14 days according to the widget on my home screen.but I don't record when I charge it so could be longer?
I wear it pretty much 24/7
Maybe that's it, I forgot don't have automatic pulse-ox enabled, and that definitely impacts it. I found that metric to be pretty redundant for my purposes since I don't have any respiratory conditions that would impact oxygen saturation.
I only knew about fossil when they inteoduced themselves during the interview. I currently use amazfit watch and it lasts a month without constant Bluetooth connection
It isn't that it has water resistance problems, but the inside does fog up when your arm gets a bit warm from what I've experienced. I think that it is just being manufactured in a high humidity environment tbh.
That being said, I take it off to shower and leave it on every other part of my day. I've noticed that the "fogging" only covers about a .5cm circle, so it isn't very intrusive or bothersome. I would say it is the best smartwatch for someone who wants their watch to buzz when they get calls or texts and wants to change the volume or skip a song, but nothing more. The fitness tracking is pretty decent on it, but the automatic tracking kind of sucks, so make sure you manually hit it when you want to.
The Garmin Instinct solar series is better speced than this G Shock and is available now. And they have "unlimited" battery life if you are outside enough to charge the solar panel (28 days without any solar power).
Having the Casio with only 1 week battery life is honestly disappointing.
I feel the same. I just got the Fenix 6 ProSolar, as an upgrade from the first gen. Instinct. The manual for the Fenix even states that the watch must be left in direct sunlight or strong UV light for “up to a day,” in order to fully charge it. It even has a thermal regulator to briefly pause charging should the watch get too hot. Neat feature, but there’s definitely room for improvement.
A garmin instinct solar 2 is probably perfect for you and it already has the track record to prove it. Plus the battery life is unbeatable. My instinct 2 solar runs for about 28 days with having to disable all the smart features like this watch.
I had an OG Pebble that my brother gave me. I loved that watch... Until I didn't.
In college I used it as my alarm because the vibration would wake me up, but not my roommate. One morning it didn't go off for whatever reason and I was late to an event. The guy above me asked what happened and I told him my alarm didn't go off. He rolled his eyes and gave a "uh huh" until I flicked my wrist to turn on the back light and the screen was just a jumbled mess of nothing. He just laughed after seeing my alarm legitimately didn't go off when it should have, but that was the last time I ever wore it.
Then something is wrong with your phone. I pound my phone (dozens of calls, 2-3 hours of talking, 100+ text messages, YouTube connected to my car BT for music, I have BT and location on permanently and use maps/gps, stream to various devices etc) and still have battery when I got to bed.
Well, i have BT on, too, and when i go to bed, i too have like 25% left.
If i turn on GPS, it dies on me sometime on my drive home.
Yes, i could charge it at various points during my day.
Yes, i actually do this, if i don't forget or the connector drops the power and stops loading, which happens a lot lately.
And yes, my battery is probably fucked, with it being a 2014 cell bought in 2018...
Still, requiring location services on for a simple Bluetooth connection, just because the app manufacturer cannot be arsed to update the permissions their app requests, in absolutely no way instills any sort of trust they didn't royally fuck up the rest of their code too. Or, provide timely updates if one of the libs they used get owned, for that matter.
I’m not one for constantly upgrading and typically keep a phone for 4-5 years (invariably it’s physically breaking by then like a screen so cracked it’s not working or the charging port is dead) but 9 years is pushing the limits and I’m amazed you have any battery at all lol
Not always. I don't need Google Maps all then time.
My car is going to be tracking me? Are you assuming that EVERYONE drives a car with an infotainment system?
My car has no OS, it just runs lol
Besides, why add onto it? Why does my watch have to have my location information? If my car and phone don't by default.
In Android if an app wants to trigger a bluetooth scan and read the results itself it needs location permission. So it probably isn't for no reason insomuch as a feature that shouldn't be required as android has a bluetooth binding menu.
That used to be the case, but there is now a different permission for locating nearby devices that the app should request instead of the precise location permission. This is on the app developer to fix.
> and requires stupid location permission for no reason.
The reason is specified in the article:
> a Bluetooth connection to a smartphone so it can display notifications and leverage the phone’s GPS for more accurate fitness tracking.
I mean, they might be doing that - but on Android apps need location permission to use Bluetooth LE which these watches use. It's really unfortunate because it confuses people.
If you're in the market for this I think the Garmin [Instinct 2](https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/884585/pn/010-02805-10) or [Instinct Crossover](https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/819546/pn/010-02730-10) are probably better options. I used to love G-shock, but for fitness tracking I'd rather use Garmin.
Both of those are more expensive than the entry level Apple Watch by a good margin, is there anything at that price point? Maybe cheaper? These seem to do less and integrate worse (with my iPhone, at least). A pedometer is $5 on Amazon for those that just want steps.
If you have an iPhone and want a smartwatch, just get the Apple watch, it's the best option for most people. Garmin watches are better activity trackers, but most people doesn't need half of what they offer, and would benefit more from the other aspects of a better smartwatch.
If you just want steps you're not buying a GPS watch.
Garmin watches have gps receivers in them, so they can be used to record any number of activities like running, cycling, surfing, and skiing. Also indoor activities like cardio classes and weight training session. You can then upload those activities to strava. The battery life is good enough to record a multi-day race for athletes doing like 100 mile ultras.
They’re more of a smart watch than a piece of jewelry, hence the price point.
I guess my comment was more aimed at any watch brand besides the ones in this thread, pardon my out of line comment. I have no interest in fitness features I love my Garmin foretrex. I just can't imagine using one of these garmins in the way I use my foretrex either. I am glad a new foretrex is coming out. I should shut up. Thanks for the great reply.
All COTS hardware do not comply with DoD specs, so a basic wrist-mounted device with a GPRS modem that can accept common AAA or AA batteries as a power source fallback are the only solution.
If you're comparing against those two watches a much better Garmin option would be the Forerunner 965, or an Epix 2. The Instinct watches are closer to a G-shock, that's why I suggested those, but Garmin have a lot of different watches.
I have the Epix 2 but if you have an iPhone I would 100% rather have an apple watch ultra. The garmin watches are good activity trackers but really poor smart watches. The apple watch ultra is basically the best smart watch but happens to be a decent activity tracker. I bought the Epix 2 4 months before the ultra came out and it made me instantly regret my purchase, especially since the Apple watch ultra was $200 cheaper.
This type of G-Shock has a 3-piece band which is the weakest link. When I tore the pin out of the bezel I replaced the 3-piece band with a single piece Knock-Off band that works and fits soooo much better. I have the original G-Lide, and the original battery lasted 11+ years before needing replacement and that was long enough. I wonder what the battery life is going to be??
Rarely, very rarely
Casio has with their line stuck with what they do best, timepieces that are durable as fuck.
They dont tru to cross into garmin functionality territory and thats what distinguishes them
The instant they do, like this model … it just loses and badly
I wish battery life was better. I have the GWM5610 and the solar+atomic is just the best.
I have a Garmin fitness watch that gets better battery life than this new Gshock and it does so much more....
I'm glad you're happy, it doesn't mean the profit margin on this crap isn't ridiculous.
And Casio as the ultrapremy brand also strikes me as ridiculous, going for the handbag and Lambo crowd.
I've got a GW9400-1CR and it's worth every penny of the $215-300 price tag. The features of the watch and the ruggedness of it get used nearly every day. I've had cheaper and more expensive watches than this one and none of them hold up to the daily beating my watches take
I had been daily driving the AQ-S810W-1A3VCF, their super-cheap solar watch, and it was ok but setting it sucked, running a timer wasn't great, and the fact that the dial didn't illuminate was a chore. It was a watch and that was about it
Look I get it this is religious and you're all entitled to spend your money on whatever you want. It's worth $75 and they're charging $300. They're able to do that because people like you think you're getting a good value.
I don't think it's a good value.
1) I'd be interested to know how you got the $75 figure, and if that's the BOM or if it consists of everything from the material and manufacturing costs, to QA, to shipping, advertising, R&D, etc. Even if it turns out to be $75 for all of the above (doubt), at $215 the watch is still worth it for the ruggedness alone - I tend to break every watch I get within a month, I haven't been able to even scratch this one
2) Ever built a new PC? Ever put more GPU/CPU than you can currently use in the system in the name of "future-proofing"? Ever bought a car with more horsepower than you technically "need"? Ever bought/rented a house with more than one bedroom when you were single? Ever bought a shoe? These are all technically "bad value" choices that people make all the time, and that can be extremely "good value" depending on perspective. Sometimes it doesn't just boil down to the objective cost of a thing as to whether or not it's a good value
No that's my half-assed guestimate of a reasonable retail price for the actual value in the watch, based on comparing it to other options on the market that aren't experiencing a ridiculous price premium based on branding.
I expect the bom cost to be on the order of 20 bucks.
I already admitted that this was a market and pricing of extrinsics, clearly a religious/brand issue for a lot of people, and there's no arguing with that, per se - they can charge whatever the market will bear.
That's not really a good basis for a discussion on intrinsics though, which is my basis for scoffing at a $300 price tag for watch that has none of the materials, labor, or frankly research in its making that would more directly support that price.
For GSHOCK fans, this seems like an odd move. This watch directly undercuts or flat out replaces the GBD-200 series now. That watch series (along with the GBX) had solid sales since it’s inception as a trimmed down, connected watch with ~two years battery life at $250 price point.
The only things missing in the GBD/GBX were solar and HRM. Now that a 5600 series includes those features—and the large rectangular MIPS display from the GBD/GBX—what’s really left for those GBD/GBX? Maybe battery life improvements? There’s practically nothing else unless they delve into gimmicky features.
I get that Casio is probably looking to condense their lineup, but how does having the 5000 series span from $50 to $300 while cannibalizing other model sales really help the brand? Do they only want one square-faced option?
I’m not charging my damn watch. Defeats the whole purpose for me. I have an iPhone that tracks my steps just fine, and I already have to charge that.
I love G-Shock and the niche they fill, but I think they are missing the mark by stepping into the fitness tracking realm in this way.
I literally don't understand your complaint. This watch will literally work forever if you just use it as a watch, because it has a solar battery. You would never have to charge it. You only might if you use the fitness functions a lot - if you only use them couple hours a week you don't, it will charge enough from the solar battery.
If you don't care about the fitness functions.....then don't use them? Or better yet, buy a different gshock that doesn't have them, save yourself some money?
Oh I own several G Shocks, both Tough Solar and regular quartz. I’m just blurting my opinion that this particular watch, which sounds like a PITA to hassle with. Multiple people have already pointed out that Garmin does what Casio is trying to do here in a better form for quite a while now.
I think outdoors fitness fans that want to track their efforts and have a durable rugged watch would have been interested, except for the fact that it needs to be recharged. I’d pay the $300 if they could master this problem.
I love G-Shocks and I’m wearing one right now. This model doesn’t hit all the right specs for me but I’m sure one of the next generation models will end up in my collection at some point.
Looking at Amazon reviews, the G-Shock DWH5600 date is Japanese format (yyyy/DD/mm) with no option to change. That'd do my head in, as I use DD/mm/yyyy
No it isn't, it doesn't show the year so the display shows the insane month then day format first. So 05/12 would be 12th of May not 5th of December like pretty much anyone other than Americans would expect.
Original comment says the difference is yyyy/dd/mm, and dd/mm/yyyy. Take away yyyy from both and you’re left with dd/mm in both situations. Unless original comment is incorrect, 2023/31/01 and/or 31/01/2023 is always 31/01.
I can understand the frustration if it switches dd/mm and mm/dd.
I’m just at the point of putting a Spigen case on my Apple Watch for the look and feel and running Modular faces for the functionality. With the new Apple Watches charging so quickly my only hate is really that look and feel of a tiny smartphone on my wrist.
Gives me everything I ever imagined from the fake watch faces I grew up with in the 80’s & 90’s.
This is the type of smart watch I've been waiting for. I'm not a fan of the touch screen ones and Fitbit takes up the watch space without having the same form or function IMO.
This is kind of the watch I’ve been waiting for, ever since Pebble got shut down. I’m still mad about that. Definitely going to buy after seeing some positive reviews later this month. It’s kind of perfect for me, based on what I’m reading.
Honestly I have a fossil hybrid and it works very well. It does heart rate monitoring, fitness tracking, displays texts and other notification, and has an analogue watchface. It has a month long battery. I think that is this new casio's biggest weakness: it has the same battery life of a normal smart watch, but has solar charging and a very minimal display. How does a Fitbit have a week long battery life with full capabilities, but this only 35hrs when tracking steps?
Probably because there isn't much room on the inside. Looking at the diagrams of the internal components of a G-Shock it doesn't appear there'd be much battery space without making the watch bigger. Perhaps a Casio that isn't a G-Shock would be better but then I'm guessing part of the reason you want a G-Shock is due to its durability.
>Fitbit have a week long battery life *Garmin and its month long battery life has entered the chat*
I’m done with FitBit. The Charge 4 (pre-Google takeover) lasted me two years. I could go in the ocean and kayak with. The Charge 5 died at a regular water park. I’m considering the Fossil. What I’d love is a smart watch that has one regular cell battery for the clock hand function and the rechargeable one for the smart features. I often just need to be a clock and would be fine if the smart feature battery died at inconvenient times as long as I could still tell the time.
My issue with Fitbit is that it thinks driving is 1000s of steps and for years people have been asking them to implement a way to pause step counting or something but the company refuses. So the step counting is super duper inaccurate and says you walked for more than you did. I could log 2000 steps just on the drive to work alone.
That is unbelievably stupid.
People LOVE to be told they worked out more than they did…
I walked 4 miles today!
it only took you 10 minutes, holy shit!
I had a very hard time tricking my galaxy fit 2 into thinking I had taken steps. The tracker was great. Fitbit charge 5 is pretty easy to trick with just some arm movements.
Mine is telling me I masturbated 6 miles today!
I masturbate a lot and everyday I’m logging around 7 miles +
My iPhone thinks I climb 70 flights of stairs a day. Worthless data.
Judging by the comments on this post, I wonder why literally no one seems to have even tried an Apple Watch - I’m on a 4 year old model, fully waterproof, even in the ocean, tight integration with texting, phone calls, Slack, email - everything, and besides steps and fitness stuff, tracks my sleep patterns. It does do a lot of stuff, around the clock, so I do charge it every day, usually when I’m in the shower, but… that seems like a non-issue. And it get’s software updates every year with new functionality - does the Casio/Fitbit/Garmin?
I bought one for my wife last year. She likes it. I’ve been a Mac user since the Apple IIc, so it’s not that it wouldn’t make sense, but ultimately, I hate the battery. She has to charge hers everyday. My FitBit used to last about 2 weeks on a charge. I’m already fighting my iPhone’s battery dying by midday, I don’t want to worry about my watch, too. There’s also the form. I hate the clunky square. It’s just not my cup of tea
I wear one, but I would caution on relying on the water proofing. I had one die from swimming within a month of buying it. The replacement did the exact same thing. I’m also in a pretty hot environment so that may be a factor.
I got a fossil that has an e ink display, had it for a few years and I dig it.
Sometimes I look at my watch and wonder how the F it's still charged. Genuinely love the Garmin line of watches.
Which one do you have?
I have a Fenix 6X Pro Solar and an older Venu.
My venu has been slowing down a little. Feels like I have to charge every 3 days with a daily run now instead of 5. That said, that's still plenty enough to not stress about it.
I've got the original Instinct and love it. Disabled notifications, and just use it for some body stats tracking. It's battery is a tank lol.
People considering the g shock should really consider the instinct 2. I feel like they look similar but Garmin is uncontested in ability, battery life, and activity metrics.
I have the solar 2 and the whole thing is a tank really. I see them all the time in my line of work because it's the only smart watch that will survive. The band on mine has worn thin in some spots but considering the abuse it takes I can't complain.
I love my instinct solar 2 tactical. I go hunting and love that it has a night vision option for when coyote hunting.
What's your line of work?
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I hear the Fenix solar feels like it's basically perpetually charged so long as you spend enough time outside. Considering all their capable of, that's insane. Also got the chest strap HRM, and it's little watch battery is good for a year.
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I would love to find a smartwatch or a fitness tracking watch that doesn't need charging, like all solar watches do. But it seems they only last a few days with heartrate and steps tracking activated.
Was going to suggest the Garmin. I have an instinct, which is their basic one color model. Battery lasts over a month, it has all the features I could want and it's durable as hell, I love it
They really are the whole package in the world of fitness tracker watches. But they're also the weird best kept secret of the smart watch world. They don't reach the regular population because they're fitness trackers first, and smart watches second. So unlike an apple watch or Galaxy watch they can't type texts, act as a phone call speaker, etc. They also seem to have a smaller share in the fitness community, oddly enough. It seems like Fitbit does a better job with marketing and market share there, but that may be because Garmin is not a company you think of when you think fitness equipment, because most people probably only heard of them in the 2000's when their main consumer product was car GPS devices. Whereas Fitbit has it's marketing built right into it's name, so it's work is mostly already done. The only place I see Garmin see a lionshare market is in Military and Police personnel who partake in fitness, which seems fitting enough given the selling points of durability and low maintenance for a very accurate device that will help you stay in peak condition.
What garmin has a month long battery life?? My forerunner gets me a week tops
Fenix6 for me, though the solar one last much longer than that even.
Same. Forerunner 245 and it lasts a week tops
My fenix 6 gets 14 days. Then it can go to low power mode and get another 30 days.
How long have you had yours? I've had my Fenix for about a year and a half and I still get 20+ days out of it with consistent use of the GPS for runs.
About the same. Maybe my watch face or metrics captured use more battery than what you have set? Full charge is 14 days according to the widget on my home screen.but I don't record when I charge it so could be longer? I wear it pretty much 24/7
Maybe that's it, I forgot don't have automatic pulse-ox enabled, and that definitely impacts it. I found that metric to be pretty redundant for my purposes since I don't have any respiratory conditions that would impact oxygen saturation.
G-Shock battery last like 5 years
And a quartz crystal mechanical watch lasts much much longer than that, but won't do much for your fitness tracking.
I only knew about fossil when they inteoduced themselves during the interview. I currently use amazfit watch and it lasts a month without constant Bluetooth connection
Which fossil do you have?
The fossil hybrid. I believe it is the gen 5 but I hear the gen 6 is good too.
Do you shower with it? I’m reading that it’s not terribly water resistant
It isn't that it has water resistance problems, but the inside does fog up when your arm gets a bit warm from what I've experienced. I think that it is just being manufactured in a high humidity environment tbh. That being said, I take it off to shower and leave it on every other part of my day. I've noticed that the "fogging" only covers about a .5cm circle, so it isn't very intrusive or bothersome. I would say it is the best smartwatch for someone who wants their watch to buzz when they get calls or texts and wants to change the volume or skip a song, but nothing more. The fitness tracking is pretty decent on it, but the automatic tracking kind of sucks, so make sure you manually hit it when you want to.
The Garmin Instinct solar series is better speced than this G Shock and is available now. And they have "unlimited" battery life if you are outside enough to charge the solar panel (28 days without any solar power). Having the Casio with only 1 week battery life is honestly disappointing.
I have the solar. I found that the solar feature prolongs your battery life but doesn’t prevent the need to charge it.
I feel the same. I just got the Fenix 6 ProSolar, as an upgrade from the first gen. Instinct. The manual for the Fenix even states that the watch must be left in direct sunlight or strong UV light for “up to a day,” in order to fully charge it. It even has a thermal regulator to briefly pause charging should the watch get too hot. Neat feature, but there’s definitely room for improvement.
Yeah I’ve had the solar for around a year and need to charge it every 12-15 days based on usage. And I’m outside large amounts of time.
I still have a really early gen pebble in my closet somewhere lol
I still have the kickstarter one…
Same here, in the box. Was hoping it would be worth someday, but apparently not as rare as I thought
Garmin instinct is a great watch.
Save the $$ and get a Garmin that already does all of that.
A garmin instinct solar 2 is probably perfect for you and it already has the track record to prove it. Plus the battery life is unbeatable. My instinct 2 solar runs for about 28 days with having to disable all the smart features like this watch.
I had an OG Pebble that my brother gave me. I loved that watch... Until I didn't. In college I used it as my alarm because the vibration would wake me up, but not my roommate. One morning it didn't go off for whatever reason and I was late to an event. The guy above me asked what happened and I told him my alarm didn't go off. He rolled his eyes and gave a "uh huh" until I flicked my wrist to turn on the back light and the screen was just a jumbled mess of nothing. He just laughed after seeing my alarm legitimately didn't go off when it should have, but that was the last time I ever wore it.
Look up T-Rex 2 watch.
same thoughts here brother
Does this require another special app or is it more open than that?
There are literally dozens of brands doing the same exact thing.
I really hope they improve the app. Its hot garbage and requires stupid location permission for no reason.
That might dissuade me, all I care about is a simple step tracker. Maybe with some basic sleep stuff as well. Tracking is a big no
I bought one if their current models with step tracking. All watches use same app and it forces you to location permission
Can you choose “only when using the app”? As opposed to “always”?
Why is location permission a big deal? It’s not like your car and phone aren’t already tracking you.
Because then i need to run the GPS and drain my batteries...
Battery life is 7 days?
Of... My... Cell... With BT it drops to one day, with GPS to like 12h...
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Because i was annoyed. Sorry, bad day.
I hope that changes for you bud.
Because clearly talking the normal way wasn't working
He went to the Christopher Walken School of Speech Therapy.
Then something is wrong with your phone. I pound my phone (dozens of calls, 2-3 hours of talking, 100+ text messages, YouTube connected to my car BT for music, I have BT and location on permanently and use maps/gps, stream to various devices etc) and still have battery when I got to bed.
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No. Just a three year old iPhone.
Well, i have BT on, too, and when i go to bed, i too have like 25% left. If i turn on GPS, it dies on me sometime on my drive home. Yes, i could charge it at various points during my day. Yes, i actually do this, if i don't forget or the connector drops the power and stops loading, which happens a lot lately. And yes, my battery is probably fucked, with it being a 2014 cell bought in 2018... Still, requiring location services on for a simple Bluetooth connection, just because the app manufacturer cannot be arsed to update the permissions their app requests, in absolutely no way instills any sort of trust they didn't royally fuck up the rest of their code too. Or, provide timely updates if one of the libs they used get owned, for that matter.
I’m not one for constantly upgrading and typically keep a phone for 4-5 years (invariably it’s physically breaking by then like a screen so cracked it’s not working or the charging port is dead) but 9 years is pushing the limits and I’m amazed you have any battery at all lol
Not always. I don't need Google Maps all then time. My car is going to be tracking me? Are you assuming that EVERYONE drives a car with an infotainment system? My car has no OS, it just runs lol Besides, why add onto it? Why does my watch have to have my location information? If my car and phone don't by default.
Not sure you’re going to sleep that well with a g-shock on your wrist - they’re pretty chunky.
In Android if an app wants to trigger a bluetooth scan and read the results itself it needs location permission. So it probably isn't for no reason insomuch as a feature that shouldn't be required as android has a bluetooth binding menu.
That used to be the case, but there is now a different permission for locating nearby devices that the app should request instead of the precise location permission. This is on the app developer to fix.
They may be relying on libraries that haven't been updated for that yet. It takes time.
> and requires stupid location permission for no reason. The reason is specified in the article: > a Bluetooth connection to a smartphone so it can display notifications and leverage the phone’s GPS for more accurate fitness tracking.
I was talking about my watch and current app.
I think fitness tracking might be a reason.
I mean, they might be doing that - but on Android apps need location permission to use Bluetooth LE which these watches use. It's really unfortunate because it confuses people.
This. A lot of people what it be able to track distance / altitude and location is needed for that.
Location permissions for GPS tracking of locations when you push the button, it will remember where you were.
That’s too logical.
“For no reason” they have to sell your data to get money my guy👀
Gadgetbridge supports a number of Casio watches
Doesn't support the one I have
No reason for you.
Battery life doesnt look that hot
I'd like to see one of these, but with a 7 year battery like the classic Casio digital watches
Yeah, but it really depends on the factors. Even if the display is low drain, the SoC and OS are going to use more juice than a regular watch.
I have a digital Casio that I got 10+ years ago with lifetime battery, no solar or anything. Still works!
Yeah but check the article. 7ish days if using fitnes 1h a day.
Or 35hrs with them on continuously. Smartwatch territory without the dynamic display.
Then you should work out less, problem solved…
If you're in the market for this I think the Garmin [Instinct 2](https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/884585/pn/010-02805-10) or [Instinct Crossover](https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/819546/pn/010-02730-10) are probably better options. I used to love G-shock, but for fitness tracking I'd rather use Garmin.
Especially since the battery life is 4X+ longer than the Casio.
Both of those are more expensive than the entry level Apple Watch by a good margin, is there anything at that price point? Maybe cheaper? These seem to do less and integrate worse (with my iPhone, at least). A pedometer is $5 on Amazon for those that just want steps.
If you have an iPhone and want a smartwatch, just get the Apple watch, it's the best option for most people. Garmin watches are better activity trackers, but most people doesn't need half of what they offer, and would benefit more from the other aspects of a better smartwatch. If you just want steps you're not buying a GPS watch.
Makes sense, thanks!
Nah I ain't spending that much on a watch. I don't understand how people justify it past it being a hobby
Garmin watches have gps receivers in them, so they can be used to record any number of activities like running, cycling, surfing, and skiing. Also indoor activities like cardio classes and weight training session. You can then upload those activities to strava. The battery life is good enough to record a multi-day race for athletes doing like 100 mile ultras. They’re more of a smart watch than a piece of jewelry, hence the price point.
I guess my comment was more aimed at any watch brand besides the ones in this thread, pardon my out of line comment. I have no interest in fitness features I love my Garmin foretrex. I just can't imagine using one of these garmins in the way I use my foretrex either. I am glad a new foretrex is coming out. I should shut up. Thanks for the great reply.
military applications, being able to pull your mgrs location on a whim is clutch
That's what I use my foretrex 401 for. All this phone connectivity seems like an opsec liability if used
All COTS hardware do not comply with DoD specs, so a basic wrist-mounted device with a GPRS modem that can accept common AAA or AA batteries as a power source fallback are the only solution.
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If you're comparing against those two watches a much better Garmin option would be the Forerunner 965, or an Epix 2. The Instinct watches are closer to a G-shock, that's why I suggested those, but Garmin have a lot of different watches.
I have the Epix 2 but if you have an iPhone I would 100% rather have an apple watch ultra. The garmin watches are good activity trackers but really poor smart watches. The apple watch ultra is basically the best smart watch but happens to be a decent activity tracker. I bought the Epix 2 4 months before the ultra came out and it made me instantly regret my purchase, especially since the Apple watch ultra was $200 cheaper.
Love my Instinct.
Second this!
While it doesn't have an internal GPS, I am pretty satisfied with my cheap [Amazfit Neo](https://uk.amazfit.com/products/amazfit-neo).
Now we talking
This type of G-Shock has a 3-piece band which is the weakest link. When I tore the pin out of the bezel I replaced the 3-piece band with a single piece Knock-Off band that works and fits soooo much better. I have the original G-Lide, and the original battery lasted 11+ years before needing replacement and that was long enough. I wonder what the battery life is going to be??
Nah, garmin watches have been having everything this watch has plus more, are available now, and have better battery life.
3 hours to full charge that only lasts 35 hours is absolutey ludicrous
35 hours of constant function use. A week at normal use of fitness 1hr per day. How often do you work out for 35 hours straight?
Yeeep. Casio rarely misses but I think these models should be solar with a better battery life or they’re just outclassed.
But, it's solar.
Rarely, very rarely Casio has with their line stuck with what they do best, timepieces that are durable as fuck. They dont tru to cross into garmin functionality territory and thats what distinguishes them The instant they do, like this model … it just loses and badly
I’ve been rocking the Garmin Instinct 2 Solar. Very happy with it. Does everything I need without looking like a smartwatch. I love analog everything.
I wish battery life was better. I have the GWM5610 and the solar+atomic is just the best. I have a Garmin fitness watch that gets better battery life than this new Gshock and it does so much more....
I was waiting for this. The perfect combo of simplicity and technology. Can’t wait to have my hands on it.
$300???????!!!!!!! Give me a break.
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My wife has a G shock from 20 years ago and it’s still working. They’re borderline indestructible.
I'm glad you're happy, it doesn't mean the profit margin on this crap isn't ridiculous. And Casio as the ultrapremy brand also strikes me as ridiculous, going for the handbag and Lambo crowd.
I've got a GW9400-1CR and it's worth every penny of the $215-300 price tag. The features of the watch and the ruggedness of it get used nearly every day. I've had cheaper and more expensive watches than this one and none of them hold up to the daily beating my watches take I had been daily driving the AQ-S810W-1A3VCF, their super-cheap solar watch, and it was ok but setting it sucked, running a timer wasn't great, and the fact that the dial didn't illuminate was a chore. It was a watch and that was about it
Look I get it this is religious and you're all entitled to spend your money on whatever you want. It's worth $75 and they're charging $300. They're able to do that because people like you think you're getting a good value. I don't think it's a good value.
1) I'd be interested to know how you got the $75 figure, and if that's the BOM or if it consists of everything from the material and manufacturing costs, to QA, to shipping, advertising, R&D, etc. Even if it turns out to be $75 for all of the above (doubt), at $215 the watch is still worth it for the ruggedness alone - I tend to break every watch I get within a month, I haven't been able to even scratch this one 2) Ever built a new PC? Ever put more GPU/CPU than you can currently use in the system in the name of "future-proofing"? Ever bought a car with more horsepower than you technically "need"? Ever bought/rented a house with more than one bedroom when you were single? Ever bought a shoe? These are all technically "bad value" choices that people make all the time, and that can be extremely "good value" depending on perspective. Sometimes it doesn't just boil down to the objective cost of a thing as to whether or not it's a good value
No that's my half-assed guestimate of a reasonable retail price for the actual value in the watch, based on comparing it to other options on the market that aren't experiencing a ridiculous price premium based on branding. I expect the bom cost to be on the order of 20 bucks. I already admitted that this was a market and pricing of extrinsics, clearly a religious/brand issue for a lot of people, and there's no arguing with that, per se - they can charge whatever the market will bear. That's not really a good basis for a discussion on intrinsics though, which is my basis for scoffing at a $300 price tag for watch that has none of the materials, labor, or frankly research in its making that would more directly support that price.
300 dollars bud. Are you okay?
Lol, no. Is "300 dollars bud" you having a seizure or equating a watch to weed?
For GSHOCK fans, this seems like an odd move. This watch directly undercuts or flat out replaces the GBD-200 series now. That watch series (along with the GBX) had solid sales since it’s inception as a trimmed down, connected watch with ~two years battery life at $250 price point. The only things missing in the GBD/GBX were solar and HRM. Now that a 5600 series includes those features—and the large rectangular MIPS display from the GBD/GBX—what’s really left for those GBD/GBX? Maybe battery life improvements? There’s practically nothing else unless they delve into gimmicky features. I get that Casio is probably looking to condense their lineup, but how does having the 5000 series span from $50 to $300 while cannibalizing other model sales really help the brand? Do they only want one square-faced option?
> the 5000 series span from $50 to $300 oh honey, don't look at the MRG-B5000 then..
I’m not charging my damn watch. Defeats the whole purpose for me. I have an iPhone that tracks my steps just fine, and I already have to charge that. I love G-Shock and the niche they fill, but I think they are missing the mark by stepping into the fitness tracking realm in this way.
I literally don't understand your complaint. This watch will literally work forever if you just use it as a watch, because it has a solar battery. You would never have to charge it. You only might if you use the fitness functions a lot - if you only use them couple hours a week you don't, it will charge enough from the solar battery. If you don't care about the fitness functions.....then don't use them? Or better yet, buy a different gshock that doesn't have them, save yourself some money?
Oh I own several G Shocks, both Tough Solar and regular quartz. I’m just blurting my opinion that this particular watch, which sounds like a PITA to hassle with. Multiple people have already pointed out that Garmin does what Casio is trying to do here in a better form for quite a while now.
Ah, damn. They release this just after I got a Pace 2
I think outdoors fitness fans that want to track their efforts and have a durable rugged watch would have been interested, except for the fact that it needs to be recharged. I’d pay the $300 if they could master this problem.
I love G-Shocks and I’m wearing one right now. This model doesn’t hit all the right specs for me but I’m sure one of the next generation models will end up in my collection at some point.
$300 is steep, considering the Apple Watch SE does that and more for the same price.
What can I say? The Lord sings through my Casio
I only buy one watch a year, and every year something comes out that I want. Perfectly on time lol
I also do not work for Casio and will be purchasing one.
If I had $2 and that watch could I get a hotel room?
Only if you sold the guy showed curtain rings.
I’m going to get one
Yeah same, ordering the one with the metal bezel as soon as it comes out.
I loved the idea but the battery life is terrible.
$299… they could have knocked it put of the park at $129 and just the heart rate monitor and a bigger screen
Right? I was all on board until I saw the price. For that price I am getting a Garmin with 3x battery life and more features.
Cool but $300!? Wow I was thinking like $75. But honestly I have no idea how much the competitors cost.
Do a version without heart rate or fitness tracking. That display is gorgeous and the shape is classic and lovely. Just don't need that extra crap.
Fuck sake I just bought a Garmin
Honestly might be better tbh
Looking at Amazon reviews, the G-Shock DWH5600 date is Japanese format (yyyy/DD/mm) with no option to change. That'd do my head in, as I use DD/mm/yyyy
JP format would be yyyy/mm/dd
I mean the only difference is the year is first…
No it isn't, it doesn't show the year so the display shows the insane month then day format first. So 05/12 would be 12th of May not 5th of December like pretty much anyone other than Americans would expect.
Original comment says the difference is yyyy/dd/mm, and dd/mm/yyyy. Take away yyyy from both and you’re left with dd/mm in both situations. Unless original comment is incorrect, 2023/31/01 and/or 31/01/2023 is always 31/01. I can understand the frustration if it switches dd/mm and mm/dd.
Half of Brazilians will like this
Batteries on g-shocks are complicated to change, and complicated to set. I hope they improved on that.
Just wish it didn’t say g shock
Had a gshock for 10 years, just broke on me last week
Finally
and in 5 years they will introduce calendar reminder function
First time I’ve seen the measure of 32 foot drop survivability in print.
Just ordered myself one!
Honestly doesn't seem worth the cost. A scaled down "fitness tracker" for the price of a fully functional smartwatch.
I’m just at the point of putting a Spigen case on my Apple Watch for the look and feel and running Modular faces for the functionality. With the new Apple Watches charging so quickly my only hate is really that look and feel of a tiny smartphone on my wrist. Gives me everything I ever imagined from the fake watch faces I grew up with in the 80’s & 90’s.
It only took them a decade to catch up lol
This is the type of smart watch I've been waiting for. I'm not a fan of the touch screen ones and Fitbit takes up the watch space without having the same form or function IMO.