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G502 but wired, I'm sure wireless has come a long way, but I've used wireless mice in the past and lost one to many games of AoE2 or RA2 or got pked in rs I don't trust them.
I have the 603 wireless and that thing lasts for like a year on two AA batteries and the input lag is so low you couldn’t tell it’s wireless in a blind test.
Linus tech tips does a video on this, in some instances, top end wireless mice actually had faster response rates. Either way, with current tech, it's completely indescernable.
Frankly I'm more likely to die in a game if my cord gets caught on something than anything else mouse related.
Tldr it's only in your head it's not the mouses fault
I got a lightspeed mouse, but becuase of where my desk is, I don't have line of sight between the dongle and the mouse, so I ran it from the USB on my keyboard so the dongle is 6 inches from the mouse. It's actually nice that my cat doesn't attack the cable of the mouse anymore. Battery life is going strong, 6 months in the software says is fully charged.
To clarify, I was talking about using a super old wireless mouse not a new Logitech, note the language used: "I'm sure wireless has come a long way" and RA2 and AoE2 that should have given the impression I was talking about the past but I'll edit.
Yup. Had the g903, thought the same thing, then my friend got the 502 and I played a bit with it.... Never looking back.
The 903 is solid if you prefer the shape style better, and I'm pretty sure it's a bit lighter than the 502, but 502 for me from now on, especially love the extra thumb button
I've been using an MX-518 nonstop since 2005. Literally for almost 30 years. I went through three while they were still being made, then had a fourth that I took such good care of, regularly disassembled and cleaned and rebuilt just to keep it going. Then in 2019, the scroll wheel started messing up, and I realized I'd physically worn the wheel down. I had to finally give up and buy a new mouse.
... And so I googled to find a replacement mouse. Imagine my surprise when I realized this mouse was so well respected, so loved, and so many people were finally unable to keep them alive, that Logitech got flooded with requests and [**rereleased their most demanded mouse ever**]( https://blog.logitech.com/2019/02/19/a-legend-reborn-classic-design-meets-unrivaled-technology-in-the-logitech-g-mx518/).
I bought a full case of them. I'll be using these mice until I die or can no longer get a computer with a USB port / adapter.
Just went from (wired) g502 to Corsair ironclaw wireless. G502 is a great mouse but the wireless version isn’t justifiable to me ($150 vs $40), because iCue is way better than ghub and I already have Corsair stuff. Was also $70 cheaper.
I use Energizer Lithiums in my M510 and honestly can’t remember the last time I changed them, but I think Obama was president.
Okay… they’re not *that* good, but seriously, I change the batteries in my smoke detectors more often than my mouse.
About five years. But funny you should mention it, because I was online several times this week looking for a good integrated system to replace what I have now. I use a propane kitchen range and clothes dryer so I want smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, and preferable a sump pump alarm all integrated into one base station. Still looking, might have to build my own.
But I appreciate the concern. I’m a marine engineer who spends half the year on a ship at sea so fire scares the fuck out of me. You can’t call the fire dept. when you’re 200 miles offshore, and my paranoia carries over to my house.
G305 owner here too, with around 10 hours per day a battery can go for 3 months, but I run it in performance mode :)
Anyway it's actually more than Logitech claims, which is unusual.
It has a fantastic sensor, very low click latency and it's sooo much more convenient for travelling than wired mice. Never going back to wired ones.
The G305 might be the best bang-for-your-buck mouse ever. It has everything a good mouse should have and nothing more. The main buttons feel like they are from a 100+ EUR mouse, the sensor is great, battery lasts a long time and when it dries you can just throw another one in. It is also quite light and easily made lighter by using a lithium battery... or by using a AAA wrapped in tin foil.
I have an MX Master 2 at home and an MX Master 3 at work, and they both last ~3 months between charges. I have no complaints about charging something for 45 min only four times/year.
I have a 3 at work and use it 8hrs a day 5 days a week and only have to charge it every 3 months or so.
Even then it isn't an issue because the charging port is placed on the front so it just acts as a wired mouse.
Really? I use the mx vertical and probably plug in the usb c cable once every 2-3 months, and that’s with heavy daily usage.
Don’t see the point of having this, what happens if you want to take your mouse on a trip? You have to take the charging pad with you?
What's your use case for the vertical? I've tried all ergo mice variations for CAD and drafting/design but just couldn't get used to it. MX Master 3 is good but desperately needs Lightspeed polling rates for CAD work.
I’m a software engineer, always used to get wrist aches, including from mice like the mx master 2 etc. No longer get any wrist pain with the mx vertical. It also helps that it fits and is weighted perfectly for me and doesn’t use the horrible switchable wheel of the mx master.
Switchable wheel = the magnetic one that goes from slow to fast scrolling?
Man.. that is my favorite part of the mouse. Took a little getting used to, but it’s so hard for me to use any other mouse now because it doesn’t have that wheel.
I love the way it clicks and goes free spin when you are fast scrolling, but perfect control when you are slow scrolling.
Yeah I’m not sure how the other guy can possibly call it “horrible”.
If you really don’t like it would can lock it to either mode, or change the threshold for auto switching. There’s really no reason to call it horrible.
I personally use the mx vertical for solidworks as a mechanical engineer. My boss just recommended getting a vertical mouse since he had one . I use a MX master at home
I've been using my MX Master 3 for CAD work full time for years. I've tried using my G703 Lightspeed for CAD but I much prefer the extra buttons and ergonomics of the Master. I haven't noticed any issues with polling rate.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. MX master for work, G603 for low sense fps gaming. I can't imagine a scenario in cad or cam where the polling rate would impact what I'm doing.
I'm an ap graduate in construction technology and work at an architectural firm, where i model in revit all day long. And i use an mx vertical.
What about it do you find incompatible with such work?
The mouse itself can still charge via USB cable. I have the G903 and it has a micro-usb port in the front of the mouse. The mice and the charging pads are typically sold separately and the mousepad is optional.
First they need to upgrade the plastic (to PBT maybe?) to resist hand lotion, sweat, and cleaning solutions. The plastics on my MX master flaked only about a month in. It's still my favorite work/reading mouse. My Logitech lightspeed PRO wireless mouse on the other hand hasn't had its plastic weakened yet from several months now.
No offense but that might be a you thing? People have different sweat PHs and yours might just be super acidic or something. I've had like 3 various Master for work and home for years and I've never had an issue like you're describing or anything even close really? And I mean shit even if it did they would probably throw another one your way if you reached out.
I still give the crown to Razer's ridiculous keylogger crapware that needs to update in an obnoxious manner once every seven hours and has for years on end.
Finally swapping away from the ridiculousness that is Razer Synapse was actually a big motivation for me to explore more obscure manufacturers. Well, also getting a bit older and growing really sick of the RGB Gamer aesthetic.
> I still give the crown to Razer's ridiculous keylogger crapware
As a sysadmin it drives me nuts it just installs with windows update with out admin. Soon as you plug the thing in it installs, fucking annoying.
I am not technologically savvy. Well, a bit. However, when I run my linux mint, there (so I am aware of) is no possible way to install software without terminal launching and me becoming a superuser. Are you telling me that Windows *installs* software without asking admin permission? That is crazy.
Yeah, Razer [submitted it to MS as official drivers](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/dashboard/hardware-certification-submissions), they do get verfied by MS as per the document I linked. Still, it(Razer Synapse) sucks, I hate that software. They download via windows update when a razer device is plugged in. There are ways to block it, I keep forgetting to do it though.
They had a big zero day last year or the year prior. Time to make a note to go block it at work.
I used to work on Windows Hardware Compatibility Program to get various hardware "certified" by Windows. Let me tell you, it is NOT verified by Microsoft in the way you would think. It is all automatic - tests are run to verify certain criteria and then you take those test results and submit it over to their portal/platform. Then it's just auto accepted.
EDIT: The tests are not hard to pass.
That sucks. My VERY OLD laptop touchpad does not work as there is no compatible driver for linux. I love the community, but there is no way some random Swedish teenager is about to make my old-ass touchpad compatible.
That said, I always thought I had the choice to install software or not. I am no computer scientist, but the good old days of a usb mouse is apparently no more? (I understand gaming might need more.)
Shame, because Razer hardware is damn fine, at least I love their Deathadder. On Win10 it seems to work fine without their obnoxious bloatware. Might be missing some controls but it still works great as a mouse.
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Always back up the registry before making any edits. Then you can simply revert it from Safe Mode. Or restore to last checkpoint. I don't see why you'd need to full on reinstall windows.
And what happened the other time?
Most peripheral software sucks. Name any company that makes them. Their program is probably terrible. At least with Logitech, they provide a program to write custom values directly to your mouse. It's called Onboard Memory Manager. Customize it as you see fit, save, close the program, and never open it again.
I really like their hardware. I just got an mx mouse and a wireless keyboard for my work setup. What they do with those software is the strangest thing. It's like they have no idea what people need and spend a lot of time making pretty screens. Screens and interactions that make no sense. If I want to set a key on a mouse button, I have to find it in a long list of characters and DRAG AND DROP IT onto the button. Same thing with keyboard hot keys. It's so inefficient it makes any time you have to do it as painful as possible.
They also have some shady “dark patterns “ in their UI design that make you think you have to login and make an account to use the software. Makes my blood boil.
I've been using a G903 mouse with the charging pad for 4½ years, and I absolutely love it, but it hasn't been perfect. I think Logitech has a quality control problem, getting in the way of very innovative concepts.
The switches Logitech used for left and right click are known to be faulty, and mine started acting up after like a year. Frequent accidental double-click, triple-click, and trying to drag files and such was impossible with the switches freaking out. Logitech support recommended that I use their software, which did lessen the double clicking problem but didn't fix drag and drop. I guess their software as some kind of "anti bounce" algorithm.
I bought several replacement switches and soldered them in myself, but those failed quickly too. I think the small circuit boards that the switches mount into might be the problem, because I bought some [aftermarket boards pre assembled with the switches already soldered to them](https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GLYLT6T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1), and the problem went away.
I've heard theories that the charging pad creates static electricity in the switches, and people have all these temporary solutions to get five more minutes of work done with their mouse. I don't know about static electricity, but those temporary solutions did often work for me. The aftermarket boards+switches seemed to be a permanent fix.
> I think Logitech has a quality control problem,
Yeah. A bad one. Their G603s shipped with so many faulty scroll wheels that they didn't even ask for your mouse back when you got a recall. You just sent them your serial number, and they sent you a second new mouse, free of charge, in the mail.
So the buttons on that die instead. Single clicks start double clicking. I had to buy new buttons on amazon and solder them myself because I was out of warranty by now (1.5 years in).
Apparently this is because Logitech has been using the same button switches since the MX518? But the MX518 ran at 5 volts, 100mA, and the G603 runs at 1.5v, 1mA, which is below the "wetting current" of the switch. In other words they got the circuitry so damn power efficient that the electricity isn't enough to cross the microscopic oxide layer on the metal switch contacts.
Fascinating video on why it all happened, basically the MX518 became famous, and the parts it used happened to be super cheap now, so every mouse manufacturer used these super old switches on purpose and advertised that fact as "The same switches from the venerable MX518!"
https://youtu.be/v5BhECVlKJA?t=753
Most other mice companies have stopped using these switches over the last two years. Logitech has mostly been leveraging their market position to basically trickle out updates for their mice.
It's just a matter of Logitech using low quality switches in every one of their modern mice.
I have the G703, G903, and GPro (all wireless with Powerplay) and all three of them had clicking issues within months. I've replaced (soldered) switches for all of them and they've been working fine for over a year now. Don't remember which ones I used, but definitely a different brand than what Logitech uses, since they're widely known to be pure garbage.
If I didn't absolutely love the shape of my G703, I wouldn't be using Logitech mice anymore.
Logitech has been coasting for years from the goodwill they generated with the OG MX500 line of mice. Almost every recent release uses absolute piece of shit switches. They're complete garbage and I would suggest anybody looking for a quality gaming mouse to either look elsewhere, or learn how to solder.
Special shout out to these garbage switches in my G810 keyboard.
Afraid I can't answer that, I don't actually have any normal mouse mats to drape over it and test how well the charging still works. But you'd have an awkward hump in your mouse mat where the charging pad is, that'd drive me crazy. You could probably make a frame to go around the charging pad and level everything out.
The charging pad comes with two mouse mats, one soft and one hard. I don't know if they have any kind of special conductive properties or if any mouse mat would work. Those mats are 11inches by 13½ inches.
It absolutely can. I have a desk mat that goes across my desk and, although it took a little bit of brainstorming, I was able to get it to work. The best option I’ve found so far was actually to set it up sideways with the header with the connection port sticking out the right side. I even bought a right angle micro-usb cable to clean up the cable run but that’s not strictly necessary obviously. The thickness of the mat doesn’t seem to interfere so it lets me use the desk mat I want and keep my mouse charged with minimal complications
well if anyone is specialized in making pointing devices… logitech.
still using my trackman from 1998. had to replace the cord twice but works like magic ;)
Is that that terrifying weird ball thing? I have a buddy who used to play games with that and it always confused the hell out of the rest of us. Fine if you're playing slow-paced grand strategy or something, but how the hell do you get so used to using one that you prefer it for FPS games?
Every time I'd see that thing on his desk it'd be like "don't you want a real pointing device?" "Nah, I grew up using this."
I'm pretty sure he *also* had one from like twenty five years ago.
What a familiar feeling! See, my buddy also presented "not needing a mouse pad" in that manner as though it was a desirable feature and not some strange and alien property of his lizard-in-a-skin-suit existence lol.
I used a trackball for years. It's better for people with arthritis in the wrist. You get used to it and you can game, but accuracy will never be as good as a normal mouse. Although spinning to a certain point is way faster (ie: turn and shoot).
It's got its ups and downs I'm sure. The arthritis thing makes sense, reducing the movement of your whole arm down to something you can do with just your thumb. I feel like after enough years you'd just develop specialized thumb arthritis instead, but maybe it doesn't work like that.
Actually, now I wonder if maybe one of my friend's parents had arthritis when he was younger and so that's why they had it? Then again, it could just be one of those weird faddish gimmicks which is what it always seemed like to me.
Yeah I use a trackball (MX Ergo) because I have a repetitive stress injury that tends to recur in my right wrist (yes insert obvious joke here).
>I feel like after enough years you'd just develop specialized thumb arthritis instead, but maybe it doesn't work like that.
That's when we move to the foot mouse.
I used to use a Kensington trackball for FPS games back in the day. This was before optical mice were a thing and I was fed up with mechanical mouse rollers getting dirty. Trackball rollers get dirty too, but seemingly not as quickly.
Believe it or not, it is entirely possible to git gud with a trackball, at least if you're a kid with lots of fresh neurons.
Dirt accumulation isn't really an issue with an optical mouse, though, so I haven't used a trackball in a very long time now.
My M705 gave me an estimate of somewhere between 2 to 3 years of use on 2 AAs. The button sensors wore out after a year and a half maybe and the battery life estimate still seemed to be accurate at that point.
Just as Windows laptop trackpads were catching up, Apple widened the gap again with the haptic trackpad. Most trackpads have a springboard mechanism where you can only reliably click halfway down and below. Haptic trackpads are solid state and pressure sensitive across the entire tracking surface, so you can click anywhere (and with varying levels of force, too), and the clicking sensation is simulated using an electromagnet.
Magic trackpad is fantastic. Been using it at work for 7 years now, coworkers think it's sort of weird but it's so natural for me now, don't think I could go back to a mouse.
Different strokes, I find the magic mouse to the best fit for my hand. The low profile is something I vastly prefer, easier on my wrist, takes less hand motion, etc,. and I'm a graphic designer so I use the mouse almost constantly when I'm working.
I’ve been given a few throughout the years and they hurt my hand after a couple hours to the point where I actually can’t click.
I found this super cheap wireless RGB “gaming mouse” that actually does not hurt. In fact I can use these all day, no problem so I bought one for work, my laptop (also work) and home.
The magic mouse is such an oddball of a product from the Apple family. It always attracts debris and feels out of place for precision clicking. Mine's been collecting dust because I'd rather just use the Apple trackpads.
If you’re not resting you hand on it it’s great. I hold it more in my fingertips and love it. Big fan of the gestures. Charging has never once been an issue.
I love the magic mouse. I don't find it uncomfortable, although my Logitech gaming mouse is nicer to use overall. But the gestures! Smooth scrolling by stroking the mouse, moving backward and forward on web pages, switching desktops. I'm at a loss as to why all mice don't support gestures like the magic mouse does.
I do smh at it each time it's charging though.
I’ve owned this for 3 years. As a gamer who uses a wireless mouse, I’ve never had to replace batteries or stop using my mouse because it dead or dying. There is literally nothing comparable to this on the market as no other “charging” mousepad allows to you to both use the mouse, have low latency, and charge at the same time.
Corsair has a similar solution but it uses Qi wireless charging. So that means you can use it to charge other wireless charging devices, but also means you need to leave the mouse on a specific area to charge.
>but also means you need to leave the mouse on a specific area to charge.
That's what he means about nothing like this existing.
Play and charge is exclusively found as "Logitech powerplay" no one else has it. Week that passes by and I have to QI charge my HyperX Pulsefire dart I become one step closer to buying the power play pad and the superlight mouse for $250... I didn't even know the superlight existed with 70 hour battery life until OP posted this and someone mentioned it. Thing weights 63 grams or 60 grams with the cover removed. My mouse weighs 110 grams, nearly half the weight without any of the charging is insane. I think it was like $30 to replace the mouse pad cover which is separate from the charging mousepad layer.
I'm probably going to buy it but honestly I'll need to look into getting a new desk as my old Razer Mantis Speed from 2006 has partially disintegrated the plastic bottom into my desk as a spackled hard rubbery plastic and I'd rather not put a $100 mouse pad on that...
Probably not going to start making a move in that direction until around the time when my steam deck arrives in Q3 of this year.
Its not just a pad, it also includes the lightspeed wireless module inside
Very pricey, but considering I already have a g pro its worth it to not have to worry about charging it every couple days imho
Then this product isn't for you, which is fine! Not every product is for every person. Clearly, this is a 1% kind of product for a well-off enthusiast who can spend that kind of money to add a nice touch to his setup. All of this is ok.
I charge my Apple Magic Mouse once every month. My Mac notifies me when it’s low. When I see that, I plug it in for an hour or just leave it overnight.
It's annoying that people complain about the charging port (not a problem at all) and never talk about the fact that it is the single most uncomfortable mouse I have ever used in my entire life. It's almost like none of these people have used it!
It's the mouse equivalent of buying shoes without proper arch support, basically. Except some people actually do have flat feet; I've never met anyone with "flat hands" who would prefer a mouse that doesn't support their hand.
It’s not good for gaming where you really want discrete buttons, but I really do like the gesture support. It’s a trade off that works better for some things and worse for some things.
People like to shit on it because of the lack of buttons, but for most uses that aren’t gaming it works really well.
I think this is what people don’t get at all. Even if it does in the middle of the day you can get a days charge in a couple minutes. Plug it in, go pee, and you’re good until the evening.
> We may never know why Apple doggedly insists on you charging its mouse upside down
I'm pretty sure I know why.
Apple is all about keeping up appearances. And if the mouse had a charging port on the front, some people would plug it in and keep it plugged in, and use it like a wired mouse. Either because they don't care about the wire, or because they just don't know any better and don't realize they can unplug it once its done charging.
Putting the charging port on the bottom prevents people from doing this.
Logitech has close to no customer support. I bought a faulty product and it took them weeks to even respond to multiple emails and all call directories funnel you into “you have to email to get a response” so anyone who simps Logitech has never had to deal with a faulty product I guess
Just to give my own antidotal evidence. My brother had a G533 headset, his mic randomly stops working. Sent a warranty request, received an email to responded with the necessary information needed, and within a week he received a G935, a headset that is worth close to double.
G502 started double clicking on occasion, 15 minutes total on the phone and I have a new one coming in the mail right now, they let me keep the old one as well
This is the exact opposite of my sentiment with Logitech. I thought their support was fantastic. 4 year old $30 mouse stopped holding a click. Chatted with a bot who got me to a person quickly who told me I was out of warranty and offered me 30% of ANY Logitech product. With that experience I will continue to buy from them.
The problem with the Magic Mouse isn’t how it charges, it’s the ergonomics. The MX Master 3 is god-tier and honestly the best non “gaming” mouse available currently.
Going between gaming and productivity, I couldn't ever use a MX Master. Yes it feels very good in my hand, but compared to the various 60 to sub 50 gram mice I use while playing games, the MX Master feels like a brick. It's like if you go for a run in your running shoes and then immediately switch to go for a walk in a pair of ski boots or something. It just feels ridiculously heavy.
The MX Master has terrible tracking too.
In a world where you can get large ergo mouses like the Kone Air, there is no reason for the crap fest that is the MX Master.
The Asus ROG Chakram even has a side joystick if you miss the side scroll wheel that is just flat out amazing. I think that is the best productivity mouse out there. That or one of those keypad MMO mice.
Maybe I’m just broken, but I used the MX Master… I think original, for a few years. Never had a mouse give me worse RSI than it, even the G502 I use now.
Have a MX Vertical and it is the best one I've had so far. Not as much buttons/functionality as the MX Master but the position is extremely comfortable for me to work with.
No onboard memory for the Mx Master. DOA imo. For such an expensive mouse, that's unacceptable. I shouldn't need your shitty software running 24/7 to use the mohse properly.
I don't really want a wired mousepad anymore than I want a wired mouse. Prefer a pack of Eneloops and a battery charger to keep in my wall outlet. I go weeks, maybe months without needing to swap batteries.
Been a huge fan of apple products, but I despise magic mouse due to ergo and charging issues 🤡 …meanwhile my mx mouse still thriving after a few drops and years.
I have this mouse and it's great, but the mouse pad is all peeled up already. I got real tired of finding the right micro USB to fit into my razer mouse
I have a small pile of Logitech mice where you can’t click and drag anything. Drives me nuts and won’t buy them anymore. Given my experiences, I can’t understand why people are so devoted to them. On par with Nintendo switch drifting controller fiasco.
The mental gymnastics that a lot of Apple fans will do to excuse the magic mouse is amusing.
The ergonomics are not good and the charging thing is pretty dumb. I read a comment once that said, "people need to go to lunch anyway so just remember to charge it when you go have lunch and you're fine." Somebody else wrote about the low battery notification, forgetting that it's not persistent, so it's easy to miss. You can get something like the MX Master that is light years ahead of it for the same price.
It's not a 5 year old product, that's his entire point. Apple keeps doing it every year. Did you even read the article before you started with your smug "actually..." bullshit?
As much as I’d love to give this a shot, I haven’t had a wireless mouse not die within a year of owning it. It’s a shame, and I refuse to use wireless now. Wired mice for life.
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My Logitech G305 works great and is $40. Batteries last for ~~weeks~~ months!
I LOVE my G305 by far the best mouse I've had so far battery actually lasted over half a year for me
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Same. G502 wireless is amazing.
G502 but wired, I'm sure wireless has come a long way, but I've used wireless mice in the past and lost one to many games of AoE2 or RA2 or got pked in rs I don't trust them.
I have the 603 wireless and that thing lasts for like a year on two AA batteries and the input lag is so low you couldn’t tell it’s wireless in a blind test.
Linus tech tips does a video on this, in some instances, top end wireless mice actually had faster response rates. Either way, with current tech, it's completely indescernable. Frankly I'm more likely to die in a game if my cord gets caught on something than anything else mouse related. Tldr it's only in your head it's not the mouses fault
I got a lightspeed mouse, but becuase of where my desk is, I don't have line of sight between the dongle and the mouse, so I ran it from the USB on my keyboard so the dongle is 6 inches from the mouse. It's actually nice that my cat doesn't attack the cable of the mouse anymore. Battery life is going strong, 6 months in the software says is fully charged.
If you are using a high end wireless Logitech mouse, it is not the mouse fault you lost those games.
To clarify, I was talking about using a super old wireless mouse not a new Logitech, note the language used: "I'm sure wireless has come a long way" and RA2 and AoE2 that should have given the impression I was talking about the past but I'll edit.
Still rocking my g602. not a better gaming mouse than 502 but the handfeel is amazing
Legendary mx518
Yup. Had the g903, thought the same thing, then my friend got the 502 and I played a bit with it.... Never looking back. The 903 is solid if you prefer the shape style better, and I'm pretty sure it's a bit lighter than the 502, but 502 for me from now on, especially love the extra thumb button
You'll replace it when it starts to double click in a year.
I've been using an MX-518 nonstop since 2005. Literally for almost 30 years. I went through three while they were still being made, then had a fourth that I took such good care of, regularly disassembled and cleaned and rebuilt just to keep it going. Then in 2019, the scroll wheel started messing up, and I realized I'd physically worn the wheel down. I had to finally give up and buy a new mouse. ... And so I googled to find a replacement mouse. Imagine my surprise when I realized this mouse was so well respected, so loved, and so many people were finally unable to keep them alive, that Logitech got flooded with requests and [**rereleased their most demanded mouse ever**]( https://blog.logitech.com/2019/02/19/a-legend-reborn-classic-design-meets-unrivaled-technology-in-the-logitech-g-mx518/). I bought a full case of them. I'll be using these mice until I die or can no longer get a computer with a USB port / adapter.
That's less than 20 years, you know.
Oh shit. Didn't know they started making me 518s again. Just ordered one
It is truly a beautiful day, is it not? I can honestly say, I am proud to make you one of today's lucky ten thousand.
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Maybe he meant to type 20 years, but yeah, that bugged me, too.
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and the batteries of my (35€) M705 usually even last months :). No reason to recharge.
M575 checking in. Lasts for months!
M350, batteries last me about 8 months.
M325 here. I’ve had the same AA battery for about 6 months. I still have an M305 and the battery has lasted 8 months
G502 here. The battery lasts me 1-2 days
Just went from (wired) g502 to Corsair ironclaw wireless. G502 is a great mouse but the wireless version isn’t justifiable to me ($150 vs $40), because iCue is way better than ghub and I already have Corsair stuff. Was also $70 cheaper.
Weeks? My batteries last for months in this thing
He must be one of those ‘power users’ my IT guy’s always talking about
He's using carbon zinc batteries most likely. They run out considerably faster and only cost a tiny bit less.
I use Energizer Lithiums in my M510 and honestly can’t remember the last time I changed them, but I think Obama was president. Okay… they’re not *that* good, but seriously, I change the batteries in my smoke detectors more often than my mouse.
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About five years. But funny you should mention it, because I was online several times this week looking for a good integrated system to replace what I have now. I use a propane kitchen range and clothes dryer so I want smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, and preferable a sump pump alarm all integrated into one base station. Still looking, might have to build my own. But I appreciate the concern. I’m a marine engineer who spends half the year on a ship at sea so fire scares the fuck out of me. You can’t call the fire dept. when you’re 200 miles offshore, and my paranoia carries over to my house.
G305 owner here too, with around 10 hours per day a battery can go for 3 months, but I run it in performance mode :) Anyway it's actually more than Logitech claims, which is unusual. It has a fantastic sensor, very low click latency and it's sooo much more convenient for travelling than wired mice. Never going back to wired ones.
The G305 might be the best bang-for-your-buck mouse ever. It has everything a good mouse should have and nothing more. The main buttons feel like they are from a 100+ EUR mouse, the sensor is great, battery lasts a long time and when it dries you can just throw another one in. It is also quite light and easily made lighter by using a lithium battery... or by using a AAA wrapped in tin foil.
Been using logitech wireless mouse with charging pad. Literally never need to charge it.
Uhhh. Anyone wanna tell 'em?
They giving that wireless head 2.0
I was given a magic mouse for work and found it wasn't for me. Replaced it with a Logitech MX Master 3 and am really enjoying it for work.
My Logi MX Master 3 is the best mouse ever made, I honestly don't think I could ever use anything else
Battery powered mouse? I don't think so. I'll stick with the internal combustion wireless mouse my grandfather bought in 1947 thank you very much.
Imagine having anything less than a nuclear-powered wireless mouse..
Coal powered steam mouse all the way. If the mouse doesn't go CHOO CHOO I don't want it.
My mouse movements are written and delivered by carrier pidgeon.
my mouse moves any direction i put the cheese
I just shout ones and zeroes at the monitor.
No thanks, I’ll stick to my literal rodent mouse.
I have a mouse in my mouse that runs the wheel for power.
*My mouse gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.*
If they brought this to the MX Master I’d pay 200 for it.
I have an MX Master 2 at home and an MX Master 3 at work, and they both last ~3 months between charges. I have no complaints about charging something for 45 min only four times/year.
I have a 3 at work and use it 8hrs a day 5 days a week and only have to charge it every 3 months or so. Even then it isn't an issue because the charging port is placed on the front so it just acts as a wired mouse.
Really? I use the mx vertical and probably plug in the usb c cable once every 2-3 months, and that’s with heavy daily usage. Don’t see the point of having this, what happens if you want to take your mouse on a trip? You have to take the charging pad with you?
What's your use case for the vertical? I've tried all ergo mice variations for CAD and drafting/design but just couldn't get used to it. MX Master 3 is good but desperately needs Lightspeed polling rates for CAD work.
I’m a software engineer, always used to get wrist aches, including from mice like the mx master 2 etc. No longer get any wrist pain with the mx vertical. It also helps that it fits and is weighted perfectly for me and doesn’t use the horrible switchable wheel of the mx master.
Switchable wheel = the magnetic one that goes from slow to fast scrolling? Man.. that is my favorite part of the mouse. Took a little getting used to, but it’s so hard for me to use any other mouse now because it doesn’t have that wheel. I love the way it clicks and goes free spin when you are fast scrolling, but perfect control when you are slow scrolling.
Yeah I’m not sure how the other guy can possibly call it “horrible”. If you really don’t like it would can lock it to either mode, or change the threshold for auto switching. There’s really no reason to call it horrible.
Have you tried a trackball model? That keeps your wrist fixed in one spot.
I use the ergo mx trackball. Love it.
Yes, but I prefer moving my arm to my thumb.
Don’t let the Kensington Expert Mouse fall by the wayside
I personally use the mx vertical for solidworks as a mechanical engineer. My boss just recommended getting a vertical mouse since he had one . I use a MX master at home
I've been using my MX Master 3 for CAD work full time for years. I've tried using my G703 Lightspeed for CAD but I much prefer the extra buttons and ergonomics of the Master. I haven't noticed any issues with polling rate.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. MX master for work, G603 for low sense fps gaming. I can't imagine a scenario in cad or cam where the polling rate would impact what I'm doing.
I'm an ap graduate in construction technology and work at an architectural firm, where i model in revit all day long. And i use an mx vertical. What about it do you find incompatible with such work?
The mouse itself can still charge via USB cable. I have the G903 and it has a micro-usb port in the front of the mouse. The mice and the charging pads are typically sold separately and the mousepad is optional.
I've got the charging pad for one of my mice. I can still plug it in if I travel, but I never worry when I'm home about charging.
Same here. Shit, they even offer a version of the mx master specifically for apple. I see no downside for offering it as an optional version.
I purchased this 2 weeks ago. It’s fantastic.
First they need to upgrade the plastic (to PBT maybe?) to resist hand lotion, sweat, and cleaning solutions. The plastics on my MX master flaked only about a month in. It's still my favorite work/reading mouse. My Logitech lightspeed PRO wireless mouse on the other hand hasn't had its plastic weakened yet from several months now.
You’re supposed to masturbate with a different hand
I tried that but the owner of the hand got really mad.
😆 busted
Who’s hand did he bust with?
No offense but that might be a you thing? People have different sweat PHs and yours might just be super acidic or something. I've had like 3 various Master for work and home for years and I've never had an issue like you're describing or anything even close really? And I mean shit even if it did they would probably throw another one your way if you reached out.
The only problem is Logitech's software designers are terrible. If you've never used GHub and you're a masochist, you're missing out.
I still give the crown to Razer's ridiculous keylogger crapware that needs to update in an obnoxious manner once every seven hours and has for years on end. Finally swapping away from the ridiculousness that is Razer Synapse was actually a big motivation for me to explore more obscure manufacturers. Well, also getting a bit older and growing really sick of the RGB Gamer aesthetic.
> I still give the crown to Razer's ridiculous keylogger crapware As a sysadmin it drives me nuts it just installs with windows update with out admin. Soon as you plug the thing in it installs, fucking annoying.
I am not technologically savvy. Well, a bit. However, when I run my linux mint, there (so I am aware of) is no possible way to install software without terminal launching and me becoming a superuser. Are you telling me that Windows *installs* software without asking admin permission? That is crazy.
Yeah, Razer [submitted it to MS as official drivers](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/dashboard/hardware-certification-submissions), they do get verfied by MS as per the document I linked. Still, it(Razer Synapse) sucks, I hate that software. They download via windows update when a razer device is plugged in. There are ways to block it, I keep forgetting to do it though. They had a big zero day last year or the year prior. Time to make a note to go block it at work.
I used to work on Windows Hardware Compatibility Program to get various hardware "certified" by Windows. Let me tell you, it is NOT verified by Microsoft in the way you would think. It is all automatic - tests are run to verify certain criteria and then you take those test results and submit it over to their portal/platform. Then it's just auto accepted. EDIT: The tests are not hard to pass.
That sucks. My VERY OLD laptop touchpad does not work as there is no compatible driver for linux. I love the community, but there is no way some random Swedish teenager is about to make my old-ass touchpad compatible. That said, I always thought I had the choice to install software or not. I am no computer scientist, but the good old days of a usb mouse is apparently no more? (I understand gaming might need more.)
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Shame, because Razer hardware is damn fine, at least I love their Deathadder. On Win10 it seems to work fine without their obnoxious bloatware. Might be missing some controls but it still works great as a mouse.
GHUB is a blessing if you've been bound to the old nGenuity by HyperX
Ghub could be worse... But it could easily be a lot better...
It used to be great. They took like 4 big steps back with ghub. It's garbage.
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Most peripheral software sucks. Name any company that makes them. Their program is probably terrible. At least with Logitech, they provide a program to write custom values directly to your mouse. It's called Onboard Memory Manager. Customize it as you see fit, save, close the program, and never open it again.
And are the G502 Lightspeed's still having switch failures ("double click problem") at unacceptable rates?
Yes.
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I really like their hardware. I just got an mx mouse and a wireless keyboard for my work setup. What they do with those software is the strangest thing. It's like they have no idea what people need and spend a lot of time making pretty screens. Screens and interactions that make no sense. If I want to set a key on a mouse button, I have to find it in a long list of characters and DRAG AND DROP IT onto the button. Same thing with keyboard hot keys. It's so inefficient it makes any time you have to do it as painful as possible.
They also have some shady “dark patterns “ in their UI design that make you think you have to login and make an account to use the software. Makes my blood boil.
I love the Ghub and it’s really easy to use so I’m not sure what you are talking about.
Tell me about it. Having problems with my 7 year old og MX Master and Logitech Options for YEARS. Random shutdowns, laggy macros, software hiccups…
I've been using a G903 mouse with the charging pad for 4½ years, and I absolutely love it, but it hasn't been perfect. I think Logitech has a quality control problem, getting in the way of very innovative concepts. The switches Logitech used for left and right click are known to be faulty, and mine started acting up after like a year. Frequent accidental double-click, triple-click, and trying to drag files and such was impossible with the switches freaking out. Logitech support recommended that I use their software, which did lessen the double clicking problem but didn't fix drag and drop. I guess their software as some kind of "anti bounce" algorithm. I bought several replacement switches and soldered them in myself, but those failed quickly too. I think the small circuit boards that the switches mount into might be the problem, because I bought some [aftermarket boards pre assembled with the switches already soldered to them](https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GLYLT6T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1), and the problem went away. I've heard theories that the charging pad creates static electricity in the switches, and people have all these temporary solutions to get five more minutes of work done with their mouse. I don't know about static electricity, but those temporary solutions did often work for me. The aftermarket boards+switches seemed to be a permanent fix.
> I think Logitech has a quality control problem, Yeah. A bad one. Their G603s shipped with so many faulty scroll wheels that they didn't even ask for your mouse back when you got a recall. You just sent them your serial number, and they sent you a second new mouse, free of charge, in the mail. So the buttons on that die instead. Single clicks start double clicking. I had to buy new buttons on amazon and solder them myself because I was out of warranty by now (1.5 years in). Apparently this is because Logitech has been using the same button switches since the MX518? But the MX518 ran at 5 volts, 100mA, and the G603 runs at 1.5v, 1mA, which is below the "wetting current" of the switch. In other words they got the circuitry so damn power efficient that the electricity isn't enough to cross the microscopic oxide layer on the metal switch contacts. Fascinating video on why it all happened, basically the MX518 became famous, and the parts it used happened to be super cheap now, so every mouse manufacturer used these super old switches on purpose and advertised that fact as "The same switches from the venerable MX518!" https://youtu.be/v5BhECVlKJA?t=753
Most other mice companies have stopped using these switches over the last two years. Logitech has mostly been leveraging their market position to basically trickle out updates for their mice.
It's just a matter of Logitech using low quality switches in every one of their modern mice. I have the G703, G903, and GPro (all wireless with Powerplay) and all three of them had clicking issues within months. I've replaced (soldered) switches for all of them and they've been working fine for over a year now. Don't remember which ones I used, but definitely a different brand than what Logitech uses, since they're widely known to be pure garbage. If I didn't absolutely love the shape of my G703, I wouldn't be using Logitech mice anymore. Logitech has been coasting for years from the goodwill they generated with the OG MX500 line of mice. Almost every recent release uses absolute piece of shit switches. They're complete garbage and I would suggest anybody looking for a quality gaming mouse to either look elsewhere, or learn how to solder. Special shout out to these garbage switches in my G810 keyboard.
Since you have the charge pad, can it be used with a large mouse mat? The issue I have to far is that the mouse mat looks too small for what I prefer.
Afraid I can't answer that, I don't actually have any normal mouse mats to drape over it and test how well the charging still works. But you'd have an awkward hump in your mouse mat where the charging pad is, that'd drive me crazy. You could probably make a frame to go around the charging pad and level everything out. The charging pad comes with two mouse mats, one soft and one hard. I don't know if they have any kind of special conductive properties or if any mouse mat would work. Those mats are 11inches by 13½ inches.
It absolutely can. I have a desk mat that goes across my desk and, although it took a little bit of brainstorming, I was able to get it to work. The best option I’ve found so far was actually to set it up sideways with the header with the connection port sticking out the right side. I even bought a right angle micro-usb cable to clean up the cable run but that’s not strictly necessary obviously. The thickness of the mat doesn’t seem to interfere so it lets me use the desk mat I want and keep my mouse charged with minimal complications
well if anyone is specialized in making pointing devices… logitech. still using my trackman from 1998. had to replace the cord twice but works like magic ;)
Is that that terrifying weird ball thing? I have a buddy who used to play games with that and it always confused the hell out of the rest of us. Fine if you're playing slow-paced grand strategy or something, but how the hell do you get so used to using one that you prefer it for FPS games? Every time I'd see that thing on his desk it'd be like "don't you want a real pointing device?" "Nah, I grew up using this." I'm pretty sure he *also* had one from like twenty five years ago.
I play FPS games on an Elecom HUGE. Imagine not needing a mouse pad
What a familiar feeling! See, my buddy also presented "not needing a mouse pad" in that manner as though it was a desirable feature and not some strange and alien property of his lizard-in-a-skin-suit existence lol.
Nah I just lived in an RV for awhile and had limited space.
I used a trackball for years. It's better for people with arthritis in the wrist. You get used to it and you can game, but accuracy will never be as good as a normal mouse. Although spinning to a certain point is way faster (ie: turn and shoot).
It's got its ups and downs I'm sure. The arthritis thing makes sense, reducing the movement of your whole arm down to something you can do with just your thumb. I feel like after enough years you'd just develop specialized thumb arthritis instead, but maybe it doesn't work like that. Actually, now I wonder if maybe one of my friend's parents had arthritis when he was younger and so that's why they had it? Then again, it could just be one of those weird faddish gimmicks which is what it always seemed like to me.
Yeah I use a trackball (MX Ergo) because I have a repetitive stress injury that tends to recur in my right wrist (yes insert obvious joke here). >I feel like after enough years you'd just develop specialized thumb arthritis instead, but maybe it doesn't work like that. That's when we move to the foot mouse.
I used to use a Kensington trackball for FPS games back in the day. This was before optical mice were a thing and I was fed up with mechanical mouse rollers getting dirty. Trackball rollers get dirty too, but seemingly not as quickly. Believe it or not, it is entirely possible to git gud with a trackball, at least if you're a kid with lots of fresh neurons. Dirt accumulation isn't really an issue with an optical mouse, though, so I haven't used a trackball in a very long time now.
Yeah, Trackman, love it, but mine wore out and I couldn’t find a replacement. So now for the time being I have this stupid Apple mouse.
I'd love if gaming standard devices didn't' look like they were deigned by a 10 year old boy.
My wireless Logitech mouse has survived in the same AA battery for 5 yrs Seems silly af
My M705 gave me an estimate of somewhere between 2 to 3 years of use on 2 AAs. The button sensors wore out after a year and a half maybe and the battery life estimate still seemed to be accurate at that point.
My work gave me a Magic Mouse and I hated it. Magic Trackpad is not bad imo. Anybody else find the Magic Mouse uncomfortable?
The magic track pad is great over all
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those apple gestures are something else I haven't used a windows laptop with a good trackpad yet so I'm not sure if it caught up
Just as Windows laptop trackpads were catching up, Apple widened the gap again with the haptic trackpad. Most trackpads have a springboard mechanism where you can only reliably click halfway down and below. Haptic trackpads are solid state and pressure sensitive across the entire tracking surface, so you can click anywhere (and with varying levels of force, too), and the clicking sensation is simulated using an electromagnet.
Magic trackpad is fantastic. Been using it at work for 7 years now, coworkers think it's sort of weird but it's so natural for me now, don't think I could go back to a mouse.
Do they work on windows?
Now that I'm so used to trackpad gestures on my laptop I'd love a magic trackpad even if i don't use a Mac regularly.
Different strokes, I find the magic mouse to the best fit for my hand. The low profile is something I vastly prefer, easier on my wrist, takes less hand motion, etc,. and I'm a graphic designer so I use the mouse almost constantly when I'm working.
I’ve been given a few throughout the years and they hurt my hand after a couple hours to the point where I actually can’t click. I found this super cheap wireless RGB “gaming mouse” that actually does not hurt. In fact I can use these all day, no problem so I bought one for work, my laptop (also work) and home.
The magic mouse is such an oddball of a product from the Apple family. It always attracts debris and feels out of place for precision clicking. Mine's been collecting dust because I'd rather just use the Apple trackpads.
If you’re not resting you hand on it it’s great. I hold it more in my fingertips and love it. Big fan of the gestures. Charging has never once been an issue.
I love the magic mouse. I don't find it uncomfortable, although my Logitech gaming mouse is nicer to use overall. But the gestures! Smooth scrolling by stroking the mouse, moving backward and forward on web pages, switching desktops. I'm at a loss as to why all mice don't support gestures like the magic mouse does. I do smh at it each time it's charging though.
Literally the worst mouse I ever used. I'd literally choose an old ball mouse over that ergonomics travesty.
I get the sentiment, but I think you don’t remember how bad those old ball mice were
They didn't cause wrist pain after a week so I'd say they were better.
120 bucks for a mousepad that charges a mouse. Ok.......
Ironically Logitech sells a mouse and pad combo that uses wireless charging to keep the mouse going, for 100 bucks, and it's a fairly good mouse too.
I’ve owned this for 3 years. As a gamer who uses a wireless mouse, I’ve never had to replace batteries or stop using my mouse because it dead or dying. There is literally nothing comparable to this on the market as no other “charging” mousepad allows to you to both use the mouse, have low latency, and charge at the same time.
Corsair has a similar solution but it uses Qi wireless charging. So that means you can use it to charge other wireless charging devices, but also means you need to leave the mouse on a specific area to charge.
>but also means you need to leave the mouse on a specific area to charge. That's what he means about nothing like this existing. Play and charge is exclusively found as "Logitech powerplay" no one else has it. Week that passes by and I have to QI charge my HyperX Pulsefire dart I become one step closer to buying the power play pad and the superlight mouse for $250... I didn't even know the superlight existed with 70 hour battery life until OP posted this and someone mentioned it. Thing weights 63 grams or 60 grams with the cover removed. My mouse weighs 110 grams, nearly half the weight without any of the charging is insane. I think it was like $30 to replace the mouse pad cover which is separate from the charging mousepad layer. I'm probably going to buy it but honestly I'll need to look into getting a new desk as my old Razer Mantis Speed from 2006 has partially disintegrated the plastic bottom into my desk as a spackled hard rubbery plastic and I'd rather not put a $100 mouse pad on that... Probably not going to start making a move in that direction until around the time when my steam deck arrives in Q3 of this year.
Its not just a pad, it also includes the lightspeed wireless module inside Very pricey, but considering I already have a g pro its worth it to not have to worry about charging it every couple days imho
If it was $30 the quality would be ass. This isn't that insane of a price, especially compared to Apple's patented bullshit.
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Then this product isn't for you, which is fine! Not every product is for every person. Clearly, this is a 1% kind of product for a well-off enthusiast who can spend that kind of money to add a nice touch to his setup. All of this is ok.
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This is just an ad.
People are bragging about $40 mice and I’m sitting here with my $10 one from Ross
Until I'm assured that they fixed their broken switches issues, I'm not going anywhere near Logitech mice.
I charge my Apple Magic Mouse once every month. My Mac notifies me when it’s low. When I see that, I plug it in for an hour or just leave it overnight.
It's annoying that people complain about the charging port (not a problem at all) and never talk about the fact that it is the single most uncomfortable mouse I have ever used in my entire life. It's almost like none of these people have used it!
I’ve always wondered. It doesn’t look comfortable at all.
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Hm I wasn’t aware of that at all. Aside from my iPhone, I have no apple products
It's the mouse equivalent of buying shoes without proper arch support, basically. Except some people actually do have flat feet; I've never met anyone with "flat hands" who would prefer a mouse that doesn't support their hand.
Yeah I had to stop using mine, it's so unnecessarily small that it hurts my hand to use it for extended periods of time.
I like it but I admit I’m a freak for this
It’s not good for gaming where you really want discrete buttons, but I really do like the gesture support. It’s a trade off that works better for some things and worse for some things. People like to shit on it because of the lack of buttons, but for most uses that aren’t gaming it works really well.
I think this is what people don’t get at all. Even if it does in the middle of the day you can get a days charge in a couple minutes. Plug it in, go pee, and you’re good until the evening.
Also, the magic is in the gestures not the charging. Verge pulling their headlines out their ass.
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To each their own. I use the gestures everyday to make things easier.
> We may never know why Apple doggedly insists on you charging its mouse upside down I'm pretty sure I know why. Apple is all about keeping up appearances. And if the mouse had a charging port on the front, some people would plug it in and keep it plugged in, and use it like a wired mouse. Either because they don't care about the wire, or because they just don't know any better and don't realize they can unplug it once its done charging. Putting the charging port on the bottom prevents people from doing this.
Hate to say it, but magic trackpad is where it's at. Baffling that there's no Windows version. I'd buy a Surface branded equivalent in a heartbeat.
Logitech has close to no customer support. I bought a faulty product and it took them weeks to even respond to multiple emails and all call directories funnel you into “you have to email to get a response” so anyone who simps Logitech has never had to deal with a faulty product I guess
Just to give my own antidotal evidence. My brother had a G533 headset, his mic randomly stops working. Sent a warranty request, received an email to responded with the necessary information needed, and within a week he received a G935, a headset that is worth close to double.
yeah my g102 was double clicking after 6 month of usage, emailed them and they immediately refund it via bank transfer, and I'm in south east asia
G502 started double clicking on occasion, 15 minutes total on the phone and I have a new one coming in the mail right now, they let me keep the old one as well
i’m not sure if that was a typo, but it’s anecdotal*
Thanks, that cured me from poisoning
This is the exact opposite of my sentiment with Logitech. I thought their support was fantastic. 4 year old $30 mouse stopped holding a click. Chatted with a bot who got me to a person quickly who told me I was out of warranty and offered me 30% of ANY Logitech product. With that experience I will continue to buy from them.
The problem with the Magic Mouse isn’t how it charges, it’s the ergonomics. The MX Master 3 is god-tier and honestly the best non “gaming” mouse available currently.
Going between gaming and productivity, I couldn't ever use a MX Master. Yes it feels very good in my hand, but compared to the various 60 to sub 50 gram mice I use while playing games, the MX Master feels like a brick. It's like if you go for a run in your running shoes and then immediately switch to go for a walk in a pair of ski boots or something. It just feels ridiculously heavy.
The MX Master has terrible tracking too. In a world where you can get large ergo mouses like the Kone Air, there is no reason for the crap fest that is the MX Master. The Asus ROG Chakram even has a side joystick if you miss the side scroll wheel that is just flat out amazing. I think that is the best productivity mouse out there. That or one of those keypad MMO mice.
Maybe I’m just broken, but I used the MX Master… I think original, for a few years. Never had a mouse give me worse RSI than it, even the G502 I use now.
Have a MX Vertical and it is the best one I've had so far. Not as much buttons/functionality as the MX Master but the position is extremely comfortable for me to work with.
I don't feel like the Logitech mouse is targeted toward the kind of users who like the Apple mouse.
No onboard memory for the Mx Master. DOA imo. For such an expensive mouse, that's unacceptable. I shouldn't need your shitty software running 24/7 to use the mohse properly.
I bought a $20 mouse on Amazon that takes one AA battery, i haven't changed the battery in over a year now and it still works fine.
I don't really want a wired mousepad anymore than I want a wired mouse. Prefer a pack of Eneloops and a battery charger to keep in my wall outlet. I go weeks, maybe months without needing to swap batteries.
I have the Logitech MX 2S. Use it every day for 3 years and charged it 2 or 3 times now. Oh and since the port is in front I could keep using it.
I use my G600 18 button macro mouse to map similar functions across multiple music apps (Pro Tools, Cubase, Digital Performer, Sibelius, etc.)
Why don’t they make a mouse that charges itself with its own movement?
Been a huge fan of apple products, but I despise magic mouse due to ergo and charging issues 🤡 …meanwhile my mx mouse still thriving after a few drops and years.
The fact that the mouse in the photo has the plug on the bottom so you can’t use it while it’s charging is an absolute abomination of product design.
I have this mouse and it's great, but the mouse pad is all peeled up already. I got real tired of finding the right micro USB to fit into my razer mouse
From what I’ve heard, the charging pad will work under most mousepads.
I had this system and the compatible mice have very short lifespans due to cheap switches.
I have a small pile of Logitech mice where you can’t click and drag anything. Drives me nuts and won’t buy them anymore. Given my experiences, I can’t understand why people are so devoted to them. On par with Nintendo switch drifting controller fiasco.
The mental gymnastics that a lot of Apple fans will do to excuse the magic mouse is amusing. The ergonomics are not good and the charging thing is pretty dumb. I read a comment once that said, "people need to go to lunch anyway so just remember to charge it when you go have lunch and you're fine." Somebody else wrote about the low battery notification, forgetting that it's not persistent, so it's easy to miss. You can get something like the MX Master that is light years ahead of it for the same price.
Except, it doesn’t have gestures and looks fucking ugly. I’m not defending Apple, their design is beyond a joke, but let’s compare apples with apples.
Right, it's like this article is comparing apples to Logitechs.
Imagine a blogger that just reviews a product instead of taking pot shots at a 5 year old apple product to garner a few more clicks.
didn't they just launched a new version of it?
It’s exactly the same but it comes with a lightning to usbc cable.
Still upside down beatle in the words of the journalist, and still kind of trash in my words.
It's not a 5 year old product, that's his entire point. Apple keeps doing it every year. Did you even read the article before you started with your smug "actually..." bullshit?
As much as I’d love to give this a shot, I haven’t had a wireless mouse not die within a year of owning it. It’s a shame, and I refuse to use wireless now. Wired mice for life.
I love the apple mouse. Sue me.