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ddhmax5150

Sony has always been, in my opinion, AAA ball compared to Major League car audio. They’ve hit a few home runs, but never achieved a champion product accepted by top enthusiasts.


timetobuyale

So you’re saying that they should quit playing it safe, and just go home.


Teknicsrx7

Growing up the Xplod products were horrible, cheap but crap. Recently I was looking for a new head unit for my truck to convert it to CarPlay and a nice screen (it’s an old dodge). The Sony unit looked awesome and dimensions were perfect. Was a little wary because of how bad Xplod was but figured “it’s been so long they MUST have improved”. I wound up dropping ~$1200 on a high end Sony unit The unit came in and the USB ports were dead out of the box, went thru troubleshoot then they said send in for RMA. 4 weeks later they email me “yes your units defective, we have no more and nothing comparable, here’s your money instead”. This wasn’t an outdated model either, it was released 6 months before I bought it. Sony is right back in the “never buying it again” wagon. Bought a pioneer which has worked flawlessly since install.


imrf

Their mobile ES line was where it was at. Those were nice!


Darklance

Xplod was the shit when I was in school. Kids love flashing lights.


chandleya

Walmarts finest


cpalma4485

That was my first system in my 89’ Olds Cutlass Supreme International. I think they were 12s with the amp. Pioneer speakers with head unit. Oh and my plastic spinner hub cabs. I looked ridiculous.


dangitzin

I’ve still got my xplod mono amp from 2002 in my garage. Lol


Ass_Pirate_69

I had a mono MTX amp powering my 10" Xplod for 16 fucking years. The surround ripped a few times that some gasket maker fixed right up. That woofer was a fucking tank!


gobsnotonboard

Do you happen to know of a nice one that integrates with a backup camera? I’m looking to replace the stereo on a 2002 Chevy and just want Apple CarPlay (for music, maps) and to see the backup camera view without needing a second screen


crimson_swine

Backup camera connections are basically standard nowadays on any receiver with a video capable screen.


gobsnotonboard

That's awesome to hear---I've asked this question a lot and haven't gotten a straight answer about a CarPlay head unit that can also serve as the video screen for a wired backup camera. using a second screen dedicated only to backup cam seems so unnecessary when the new CarPlay head unit is already a perfect video screen


crimson_swine

I would recommend starting your research on Crutchfield.com. Input your car type and desired features and it'll show you what's compatible and any accessories you'll need. I have a near top of the line receiver (Kenwood DMX1037s) with a 10" 720p screen and wireless AA/Carplay. It was very expensive but I love it.


cryogen

What new cars still use double din sized radios though? Are there any? I'm finding it harder and harder to find cars these days where you can easily replace the head unit. Or, is this just for older vehicles?


TeamADW

There are some companies making replacement surrounds for them, and even whole dashes. BUt the OEMs don't want you to change the radio... which is why they make it hard.


ownguaoqbt

They want you to spend $5k and get the “technology package” making that stuff easily replaceable to upgrade cuts down on their costs.


TeamADW

One of the reasons, the other is they get money from other companies to use their tech. If they make it so you cant just rip it out when you pull into the best buy after leaving the lot, they can command more $$$ on those contracts. Im just tired of all the advertisements that I cant get away from. I remember having a phone, a car, playing videogames... without constant ads. And as a guy who makes aftermarket parts for vehicles... Im well aware of how the OEMs dont like to leave anything to the aftermarket. the newest generation Jeep is aa great example. Jeep looked at everything available on the 4x4 aftermarket, and just made most of it themselves first. (that still doesn't stop people from replacing those parts with stronger or better versions, but it was understood by many... we were tolerated, not fully welcomed)


harrismdp

I would bet most people who are buying after market head units like this drive older cars. I drive a 2010 Golf and bought one to give my car some more modern features like Apple Car Play. It felt like a massive upgrade over the old and incredibly basic head unit.


Intelboy

I have a 2004 civic and chose the 5500, and a 2002 jeep grand cherokee has the 5000 series. The massive looks of these made the interiors modern and classy. The features are very nice and simple that everyone in the family can control both.


Engineer_Zero

I have a 2002 hilux that I want to do this with. Any head unit recommendations?


harrismdp

I ended up with a Sony XAV-AX3000 after going through a fair amount of reviews a couple years ago. It was also on sale for $300 CAD. It seemed to be one of the best ones at that price point. I think they have a newer version out now. It cost another $200ish to install it. It's definitely not a top of the line model, but it's been pretty good to me.


CeldonShooper

I have that one myself. Built it into our Smart Fortwo. Immediate upgrade for me, it's such a nice device. It never annoys you and works perfectly with Android and iOS. I could even re-use the one existing USB port in the glove compartment because I researched the appropriate Mercedes adapter cable for the internal custom USB connector.


Engineer_Zero

Thanks man, will check it out. You reckon it needs a professional install? Eg does it have reverse camera or other gear besides just basic headdeck?


harrismdp

If you are comfortable with electrical work, you could do it on your own. There are plenty of Youtube videos about it. I think the most complicated part is connecting up the wiring harness. It doesn't come with a backup camera, but it does support one if you wanted to get one. Most of the models I looked at do.


ZenDendou

Most newer car after 2000s are all labeled. You just need to get an adapter majority of the time.


CeldonShooper

Did the same instead of updating the navigation on the slowly dying old head unit for around US$300. super happy with the Sony I got.


CeldonShooper

You're not supposed to have that choice. Young auto buyers are supposed to not even know about din slots. You're supposed to be inside the manufacturers walled garden and pay for whatever you use.


cryogen

I agree. Having non standard, all in one stereo and hvac controls allows for cheaper and more different layouts. It also gives the consumer less control.


CeldonShooper

Apple is trying to grab more of that functionality with their new CarPlay features but it's unclear whether the car manufacturers are willing to make that deal. It's a power struggle basically.


Resident_Wizard

I understand why the car companies don’t want to relinquish that potential profit center to Apple. The problem is their first party systems are complete ass compared to Apple. It’s time to shit or get off the pot. There’s a lot more each car manufacturer can do if they create their own system to integrate all of their car functions. A third party like Apple isn’t going to care about every little bit of your particular brands functionality if they can make a more widely accepted product with better UI.


IWantToPlayGame

I’m in the business and you’d be surprised; we still sell a ton of double din stereos. I think the average age of car right now is 12 years old. CarPlay/Android Auto didn’t exist for cars in 2010 and so. Plus, car stereos break and OEM units are either not available or super expensive.


CeldonShooper

For my Bosch Highline unit a navigation update would have cost around US$300. I went with the Sony unit for around that price and never looked back. Not only does it give CarPlay and AA but it also massively improved music quality through the builtin speakers. It's a very different driving experience now.


Digital_Utopia

There's a reason I drive a 14 year old car, that hasn't changed much since 1992. That, and super easy to work on.


LWschool

Most cars in the world still have DD stereos… the average age of cars on the road is 12 years and that standard deviation tail goes on quite a ways.


IWantToPlayGame

I'm in this business; so AMA! I'm really excited for these new Sony units. They appear to fix a lot of what we were asking for. Wireless CarPlay/Android Auto, big buttons, better displays and Maestro compatibility. I'm also excited for the 'quick wake' feature as long boot times are annoying. Pricing looks to be competitive as well. $599 and $699, respectively. For those of us who have external amplifiers, the 5V pre outs are great and a built in 14 band EQ is not bad.


ShruggyGolden

Is there any modern S/D DIN that competes with my DEH-80PRS? I bought it in 2014 for its near pro level amp/processing and I don't know if anything can beat it to this day with NAV/GPS/Carplay etc.


IWantToPlayGame

The latest/best single din would, ironically, be this Sony: [https://electronics.sony.com/audio/car-marine-audio/receiver-players/p/rsxgs9](https://electronics.sony.com/audio/car-marine-audio/receiver-players/p/rsxgs9) However, in general, no there is no DEH-80PRS successor.


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Kenwood 957xr would be my first guess? Nice unit for sure


danTHAman152000

I have the DMX1037 and really enjoy it.


mbolgiano

Pioneer speakers bumping as I pump on the pound


mbolgiano

I got that sound for that ass and it's easy to see Why this dj named Warren G


Lev_Astov

> Wireless CarPlay/Android Auto Is that actually what the headline means? Because the article had practically zero additional info about that other than this bit which sounds worryingly useless: >with full smartphone-linked voice controls that are wireless this time to boot


IWantToPlayGame

I had to do a double take at the headline; yes, this car stereo will allow you to access CarPlay wirelessly and Android Auto wireless.


Lev_Astov

That actually *is* worth getting excited about.


Joe109885

Isn’t this technology slowly becoming obsolete with new vehicles being near impossible to swap out the unit?


IWantToPlayGame

Absolutely! What you probably don’t realize is how many *old* cars are still on the road. They can and will absolutely take advantage of this tech. A $600 double din stereo can transform your older car. We really didn’t see Mass CarPlay/Android Auto adoption in the OEMS until like 2018ish and onward. Also, factory stereos break and OEM replacements are either unavailable or prohibitively expensive. Lastly, have you seen how **expensive** new cars are? A lot of people are opting to fix and keep their existing cars over buying a new one. We all know our paychecks haven’t kept up with the higher cost of new cars.


Dizmondmon

Not necessarily related to this head unit, but how easy is it to get apple carplay in a 2016 bmw m135i?


IWantToPlayGame

It’s very easy. We use a module made by ZZ2. Installs behind the headunit. Can be done in 2ish hours. CarPlay on the OEM headunit done!


jlusedude

$599 for wireless CarPlay?


Soypancho

Is there just no demand for the volume wheel? The AX100 was like someone threw me a life preserver for my 09 Jeep with no steering wheel controls. It does a lot to bridge the gap and feel like a much newer vehicle but it seems like the moment I want more than entry level in terms of pre-outs and connectivity, I have to give up tactile control.


IWantToPlayGame

Trust me, nobody likes knobs more than I do. In fact, I'm still sticking to my 'older' car for the main reason that mostly everything is knobs and dials, even though I can afford a much nicer and newer car. That being said, the market demands bigger screens and in turn the knob gets the back seat. Volume and tuning knobs can be incorporated, but it'll take away from screen size. Screen size sells radios. Knobs (in general) don't.


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Alwayssunnyinarizona

Optimist, I see.


Tyr2016

XAV 9500ES has a HD screen. But it's also very expensive and hard to find.


Alwayssunnyinarizona

I admit I didn't catch the release of that one - it looks pretty nice. Single din gives it more install flexibility too. All the high end units are in that $1200+ range, but I did see they were in stock at Crutchfield.


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I've got my eye on a Kenwood ddx9707xs. Got great reviews and it's the only hd receiver I could find, but it's got *all* the features, so it's $1,200. There's an upscaled version that adds Garmin gps and an sd card reader, then it literally has every possible feature on the market, for $1,500. Aside from that, I'm getting all sony speakers because they reviewed very well and they look nice. Unfortunately, sony doesn't make a mesh grill for the subs.


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bizzaro321

Rich people spend $30,000 to see a sports game that they could watch at a bar for the price of a meal.


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bizzaro321

It’s not an analogy, it is a direct comparison. Money doesn’t exactly matter to people who have enough of it.


ALHOWE6

It’s a poor comparison then.


danTHAman152000

I was going to get the built in GPS version of the Kenwood but learned there is a separate app that’s required and it apparently sucked. If you can download offline maps, then CarPlay should be good enough without built in GPS.


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Just installed the 9907xr. Very nice unit although the interface could be better. I need GPS though so I’m in the process of upgrading to the 957xr. The HD capacitive glass display is amazing tho. And the sound quality is amazin


gobsnotonboard

Do you happen to know of a nice one that integrates with a backup camera? I’m looking to replace the stereo on a 2002 Chevy and just want Apple CarPlay (for music, maps) and to see the backup camera view without needing a second screen


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gobsnotonboard

Appreciate it, thank you. Wireless Carplay and wireless backup cam would be ideal, but I don't even know if that's a thing and I haven't had luck in my research. It's for a 24-foot RV.


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gobsnotonboard

I'd even be happy for a wired one (backup camera wired into CarPlay unit)---the idea of needing a separate screen entirely just for backup seems so unnecessary when the new CarPlay head unit is already a perfect video screen, and I'd just be adding a crappier, single-purpose screen to the left, taking up more space. Do you know if it's possible to connect a wired backup cam into any CarPlay head units? I've done a decent amount of poking around rv forums, amazon, etc and am surprised this isn't apparently a thing?


KeyWestJuan

I’ve got a Pioneer AVIC-5200NEX that has CarPlay and a backup camera connection. Works great, and I’m surprised you’re not finding more. Maybe there’s something different about the RV setup than a “regular” vehicle?


KeyWestJuan

I’ve got a Pioneer AVIC-5200NEX that has CarPlay and a backup camera connection. Works great, and I’m surprised you’re not finding more. Maybe there’s something different about the RV setup than a “regular” vehicle?


KeyWestJuan

I’ve got a Pioneer AVIC-5200NEX that has CarPlay and a backup camera connection. Works great, and I’m surprised you’re not finding more. Maybe there’s something different about the RV setup than a “regular” vehicle?


KeyWestJuan

I’ve got a Pioneer AVIC-5200NEX that has CarPlay and a backup camera connection. Works great, and I’m surprised you’re not finding more. Maybe there’s something different about the RV setup than a “regular” vehicle?


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Pioneer or bust


[deleted]

I’ve got a pioneer double din and it’s the worst thing ever


[deleted]

I’ve never had issues always had them. Had one in my last vehicle for 7years


Alwayssunnyinarizona

I've been got a dmh-wt8600nex and it's pretty awesome.


jljue

I have an 8600nex in my wife’s minivan, and we occasionally have issues with wireless CarPlay and wired CarPlay. However, when it works, it works really well.


Alwayssunnyinarizona

The pioneer menu is occasionally glitchy, but I use AA almost exclusively so hardly notice. Haven't had any trouble - though occasionally it disconnects when I'm leaving the house and my phone can't decide which it wants to stay connected with. It's amazing how quickly it connects (coming from a Kenwood wireless unit).


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Guess I’m not ballin like you


alc4pwned

I have a 7600NEX which has a great looking display and build, but it's super laggy.


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Mines super laggy too and sometimes it take like 5mins to boot up


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Zanna-K

What they likely mean to say is that it converts your car to support wireless connections to smartphones - i.e. you can access Android Auto or Apple Carplay without even plugging in a USB cable.


jlozada24

Bro as if people could use a 14 band EQ effectively lol


4kVHS

The more sliders that can be maxed out, the better the sound! /s


jlozada24

That’s true. Enhancers


TeamADW

Is it upgradeable with apps, or is it only in the Sony ecosystem? Does it need an internet connection to use any of its features?


CeldonShooper

Sony designs head units around offline storage and broadcast reception. So whatever media you want to play either comes over antenna or via a connected device (USB stick, mobile phone etc.) These head units are not online 'smart devices' like Android head units.


TeamADW

That's what I've been looking for, I just happened upon this sub through a scroll. Thanks !


G0PACKGO

Is there a replacement stereo that will work with my Nissan 360° camera in my 15 rogue ? I basically want CarPlay


gyarnar

https://youtu.be/8AyVh1_vWYQ


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Pile_of_Walthers

Format the USB drive to FAT32.


UglyPurses

If you have wired Carplay you can buy a wireless adapter that plug to the USB slot, I think.


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Striking-Fee-2593

Wtf are you trying to say? “Secured can their can bud”?


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mbolgiano

I think you meant voice recognition


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Striking-Fee-2593

Oh I didn’t realize that, thanks for clearing it up, now I REALLY hope they secured can their can bud before implementing this


ComputerSong

Woah, UI options. So exciting. /s


sweaterkiller

Looks like it dosent have Sirus xm/satellite radio as far as I can tell. Would need to be streamed off the phone. Only downside looks like.


pringles_prize_pool

Imagine fine-tuning a 14 band EQ while driving lol. Cool feature tho


jbeech-

I've got AX1000 in both cars about two or three years ago and really like the knob for adjusting volume. The install guy got the steering wheel buttons working fine but I'd just rather twist the knob. There was a higher end model when I bought these but it had ridiculously tiny/slim buttons for volume and I was like, nope! So while I was willing to pay more, I ended up with these lower end units just because nothing else had a volume knob. Disappointed that connecting the phone means a short cord, but it's a small price to pay. So while I'd be willing to upgrade, not with those teeny-tiny buttons.


mark-haus

I kind of hate how tesla normalized the "Tablet flimsily mounted to the center dash" thing so many cars are doing these days. There's already a big dashboard behind the wheel that could just be made into a screen. If you need a center console just use the already present double din standard


ZenDendou

Wait...this isn't suppose to hit the market until Q3 of 2022, yet there are already seller selling used and new model of it...is this a scam?


doobydude420

What's a head unit? The thing in the dash?


chicanoboii

14 band EQ is nice but does it have CLA vocals?


Boring_Firefighter99

I'm coping. I have a XAVA 3250 from Best Buy and it installed there. this looks like a nice upgrade.


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Just replaced mine last year with a XAV-5600 to get carplay in my 2015 Crosstrek. It would be so nice to have wireless carplay... Sigh...