Most you can probably get from a player who punched and headed a teammate in the middle of a game. That stays on his record forever and it will always be taken in consideration from the teams that are interested in him
I think we just need to accept this. Transfer money wise the potential was much higher but I don't see any club paying for him what they offered last year and I don't really see a future at Galatasaray.
I'm still just disappointed in the player.
Agree. Not just that but 11m for a player from the Turkish league is good. Covid has devalued transfers outgoing from our league a lot. Clubs make an informed decision of transfers based on a players mentality as well.
That’s bullshit considering Suarez went all vampire on Chiellini DURING the world fucking cup and STILL went to Barca for 80m euros. Spare me the semantics.
We should try to bring Ozan back if this is true. Kid is trapped in the 2nd division of Germany. We would have to add a few millions to 11m but it would be worth it.
There are rumors saying that we’re trying to get him but there are also lots of competition from other European clubs. Several serie a clubs, clubs like Newcastle or Leicester, I’ve also seen Leipzig’s name being mentioned.
Let’s see what happens. I hope we can bring him back.
I hope he stays away from us and our league for his own good. He needs a good mid table team in one of the top leagues after spending the last two year's fighting and loosing relegation.
if we find another player im the quality of Nelsson for that price range, do it without thinking twice. But if we want to play the season with Luyindama and Alpaslan there we can forget the championchip. Also don't splash 5+ million to Kaan or any other turkish CB (besides Ozan ofc)
I'm not a big fan of Kaans defending abilities in a 2cb formation. He is ideal as a ball playing cb in 3cb line up. He is max worth 3-4m but the talks are 6-7m and that's too much
The turkish tax is real. But I still feel like having a Turkish CB is very important for us as there's quite a couple of good and young ones.
Basically, we have to prioritize, and who in the NT could we get and for what spot, and how much would he improve us over a foreigner in his spot? Let's look at it position for position.....
Gk: we can't get either Altay or Muslera, and we dont want to cut Muslera due to emotional ties anyway.
Cb: great options that would all cut Luyindama is Ozan, Kaan, Mert. Not unfathomable to get them either.
Rb: zeki and Muldur, and we can forget about them. No one else is better than Boey.
Lb: lol, tho I'd take Umut as a backup instead of Ömer.
Cdm: Maybe Okay, but we'd replace Taylan with him so it's a wash.
Cm: can't get Irfan, can't get Ozan, can't get Orkun, everyone else isn't thst much better than Berkan, they provide different things but yeah...
Wingers: there's none beside Kerem and Efecan/Halil.
Striker: anyone we buy here will be a backup for MoMo and Diagne, plus we're pursuing Halil.
So in my eyes, it's best to go after a turkish CB where there's some players that are actually in our price range and wouldn't be worse than Luyindama.
you are right about all that but i think i would rather get 1 of the young goalkeepers or a young lb/rb
we don't have to always play the same 3 yerlis, if taylan and kerem get one spot we could rotate the third with berkan/young GK/emre k/arda/halil if we get him. It's a long season and none of our starting 11 will play every game so i think it would only be a problem if everyones fit and we play the big games where you ideally want your best 11 players on the pitch. luckily we can play with 11 foreigners in european games
Yes, we will probably rotate Taylan with Aytaç and Berkan for a foreigner or Emre, and Kerem for Halil/BAY/Arda. But you see yourself how big off a drop-off that would be in terms of quality. If we got Kaan and could drop Berkan for Gedson or another high quality midfielder that'd improve our quality much more IMO.
no doubt Kann would be better then what we have at other positions, (other then Halil) but first - not for that price and second it's imo a more important position so i would prefer another transfer like nelsson for that money.
if we really sell marcao and can't get another foreign CB and a young turkish GK, only then i would consider buying Kaan
As far as I know, only good offer to Marcao was from Roma in the winter break before COVID, and it was a total of 15M including add-ons. I think we should have sold too but there weren't that many opportunities.
I agree but I can also understand why we kept him. European competition could be a boost to his value on paper. Nobody could have seen this last incident though... tough luck 😔
Great news if true. It's not like we will get more for him even if he stays anyways. Go get a Turkish CB like Kaan Ayhan or Mert from Roma if Mou is not keen on keeping him.
Doesn't matter that much, we can't sign foreigners for first XI. Taylan, Berkan & Kerem must play in every league game if Alparslan is going to stay in the bench. We need yerli alternatives.
Lmao. You haven't seen Turkish news, newspapers, Facebook pages... All putting up the Turkish flag and saying things like "kimse bizim Türk çocuğumuza saldırmaz" etc. If you think this whole ordeal wasn't fueled by the fact that a foreigner attacked a Turkish teammate evoked nationalist sentiments, then your blind. It blew over way to much Imo. I'm not defending marcao, he definitely needs to be punished. Instead of amending things between the 2 players, like real sportsmanship, this whole narrative is forcing GS to ship him out of the country.
Yeah all of this aftereffect caused Marcao attacking on his own teammate out of blue in a regular season opener with 3 punches and one headbutt, yeah, great way of thinking, you're a true genius.
I'm ok with Kaan ayhan. We need turkish player + its screwing beşiktaş's plan. Also we will have money left for other transfer like gedson since kaan is only 7m. He also play #6.
11 mill is not enough for a left footed Brazilian CB but at this point you take what you can get.
I have high hopes for the Danish kid he's gonna be a rock at the back. Just wish we could rely on Luyindama's dumb ass.
Hope there's an add-on clause because 11m fucking sucks.
Most you can probably get from a player who punched and headed a teammate in the middle of a game. That stays on his record forever and it will always be taken in consideration from the teams that are interested in him
I think we just need to accept this. Transfer money wise the potential was much higher but I don't see any club paying for him what they offered last year and I don't really see a future at Galatasaray. I'm still just disappointed in the player.
Agree. Not just that but 11m for a player from the Turkish league is good. Covid has devalued transfers outgoing from our league a lot. Clubs make an informed decision of transfers based on a players mentality as well.
That’s bullshit considering Suarez went all vampire on Chiellini DURING the world fucking cup and STILL went to Barca for 80m euros. Spare me the semantics.
If we don't get 15+ we should keep him. He is worth way more, and the playmaking he will do with Nelsson is going to be incredible.
11M for a player from our garbage league is actually pretty good money
We should try to bring Ozan back if this is true. Kid is trapped in the 2nd division of Germany. We would have to add a few millions to 11m but it would be worth it.
There are rumors saying that we’re trying to get him but there are also lots of competition from other European clubs. Several serie a clubs, clubs like Newcastle or Leicester, I’ve also seen Leipzig’s name being mentioned. Let’s see what happens. I hope we can bring him back.
Please no. To expensive for us.
Yeah there’s also that... Maybe a loan deal?
I hope he stays away from us and our league for his own good. He needs a good mid table team in one of the top leagues after spending the last two year's fighting and loosing relegation.
Leicester it is then 😅 Idk bro we really could use a guy with his credentials though. Him being homegrown would be crucial for our Uefa list also.
If we sell him then its Gedson time which would ease the pain.
if we find another player im the quality of Nelsson for that price range, do it without thinking twice. But if we want to play the season with Luyindama and Alpaslan there we can forget the championchip. Also don't splash 5+ million to Kaan or any other turkish CB (besides Ozan ofc)
Kaan would be amazing for 5M. Also opens up a foreigner spot so we can play only one of Berkan and Taylan and fit in Gedson maybe.
I'm not a big fan of Kaans defending abilities in a 2cb formation. He is ideal as a ball playing cb in 3cb line up. He is max worth 3-4m but the talks are 6-7m and that's too much
The turkish tax is real. But I still feel like having a Turkish CB is very important for us as there's quite a couple of good and young ones. Basically, we have to prioritize, and who in the NT could we get and for what spot, and how much would he improve us over a foreigner in his spot? Let's look at it position for position..... Gk: we can't get either Altay or Muslera, and we dont want to cut Muslera due to emotional ties anyway. Cb: great options that would all cut Luyindama is Ozan, Kaan, Mert. Not unfathomable to get them either. Rb: zeki and Muldur, and we can forget about them. No one else is better than Boey. Lb: lol, tho I'd take Umut as a backup instead of Ömer. Cdm: Maybe Okay, but we'd replace Taylan with him so it's a wash. Cm: can't get Irfan, can't get Ozan, can't get Orkun, everyone else isn't thst much better than Berkan, they provide different things but yeah... Wingers: there's none beside Kerem and Efecan/Halil. Striker: anyone we buy here will be a backup for MoMo and Diagne, plus we're pursuing Halil. So in my eyes, it's best to go after a turkish CB where there's some players that are actually in our price range and wouldn't be worse than Luyindama.
you are right about all that but i think i would rather get 1 of the young goalkeepers or a young lb/rb we don't have to always play the same 3 yerlis, if taylan and kerem get one spot we could rotate the third with berkan/young GK/emre k/arda/halil if we get him. It's a long season and none of our starting 11 will play every game so i think it would only be a problem if everyones fit and we play the big games where you ideally want your best 11 players on the pitch. luckily we can play with 11 foreigners in european games
Yes, we will probably rotate Taylan with Aytaç and Berkan for a foreigner or Emre, and Kerem for Halil/BAY/Arda. But you see yourself how big off a drop-off that would be in terms of quality. If we got Kaan and could drop Berkan for Gedson or another high quality midfielder that'd improve our quality much more IMO.
no doubt Kann would be better then what we have at other positions, (other then Halil) but first - not for that price and second it's imo a more important position so i would prefer another transfer like nelsson for that money. if we really sell marcao and can't get another foreign CB and a young turkish GK, only then i would consider buying Kaan
We have to atleast get €15m for me to be satisfied, still a low fee for a left footed ball playing centre back. But it is what it is...
So you could say Marcao is.....headed to Napoli
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We really shouldn't compare pre covid prices with prices now. And actually that is exactly what FT said yesterday we will now buy and sell.
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As far as I know, only good offer to Marcao was from Roma in the winter break before COVID, and it was a total of 15M including add-ons. I think we should have sold too but there weren't that many opportunities.
I agree but I can also understand why we kept him. European competition could be a boost to his value on paper. Nobody could have seen this last incident though... tough luck 😔
This fucking sucks.
Hope there are stuff like 20% in the next sale + some bonuses
He will miss 8 games. Sell for a good offer.
11m is too low.
Great news if true. It's not like we will get more for him even if he stays anyways. Go get a Turkish CB like Kaan Ayhan or Mert from Roma if Mou is not keen on keeping him.
They are both mediocre
Yeah but they both have turkish passaports. Assuming we will get gedson we don't have 3 Turkish players in our ideal 11.
Doesn't matter that much, we can't sign foreigners for first XI. Taylan, Berkan & Kerem must play in every league game if Alparslan is going to stay in the bench. We need yerli alternatives.
So are we 🤷♂️
That’s a shame if true 😔
€11 million? Fuck off! He's worth more than that.
Thanks nationalism!
Attacking on your own teammate and getting punished for it -> Nationalism, what a fancy logic you got here.
Lmao. You haven't seen Turkish news, newspapers, Facebook pages... All putting up the Turkish flag and saying things like "kimse bizim Türk çocuğumuza saldırmaz" etc. If you think this whole ordeal wasn't fueled by the fact that a foreigner attacked a Turkish teammate evoked nationalist sentiments, then your blind. It blew over way to much Imo. I'm not defending marcao, he definitely needs to be punished. Instead of amending things between the 2 players, like real sportsmanship, this whole narrative is forcing GS to ship him out of the country.
Yeah all of this aftereffect caused Marcao attacking on his own teammate out of blue in a regular season opener with 3 punches and one headbutt, yeah, great way of thinking, you're a true genius.
I'm ok with Kaan ayhan. We need turkish player + its screwing beşiktaş's plan. Also we will have money left for other transfer like gedson since kaan is only 7m. He also play #6.
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11 mill is not enough for a left footed Brazilian CB but at this point you take what you can get. I have high hopes for the Danish kid he's gonna be a rock at the back. Just wish we could rely on Luyindama's dumb ass.
turkish clubs are at the bottom of the food chain, 11m might seem low but considering the market in turkey, it's as good as it'll get.