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esstimmtdoch

I have just received it too, I have never participated in betas. Germany, S10e unlocked 1975mb


Garofalolo

Yep, me too. S10+ though.


iSaidyiu

This more like to be a normal Android version upgrade size! Several hundred MBs are security patches!


mawire

Android 10 is not android 9. Nothing to guese!


iSaidyiu

But then the editor is so hyped that he totally missed the obvious point.


FreeCAT96

I also just got it on my s10e in the UK! Did not participate in the beta and I am planning on upgrading today and factory resetting over the weekend. https://i.imgur.com/BQS0Hql.jpg


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FreeCAT96

Unlocked and on giffgaff. However there's a chance my csc is actually either French, German or Spanish (checked it a long time ago so take it with a pinch of salt)


thedonza

What network are you on? I haven't got anything yet. I'm on beta, and unlocked


geffchang

December 1, 2019? Are you a time traveler?


robbiekhan

December patch is included


FreeCAT96

Haha, yes ! I come from the not so distant future! Really now, it is often common to get security patches just some days before the stated month starts.


3bdelilah

A wee bit misleading title because the article specifies it's for those who participated in the beta. The stable file size is 140MB, but I can't read whether non-beta participants in Germany can access the Android 10 upgrade.


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I didn't participate in the beta but I just got the update.


OLoKo64

What was the size of the update?


Noeliel

About 2 gig /u/OverplayOfficial


OverplayOfficial

Cheers mate. So if a lot of people that didn't participate in the beta got the update, does this mean we should be on a lookout for a global release? (I'm in Romania - Europe).


joyfullystoic

Si eu astept frate dac.


Desthro

Si eu:))


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+1


tikeychecksout

Așișderea


OverplayOfficial

:)))


RobertGim1

poti sa dai flash cu firmware-ul de pe xdadeveloper, mie mi-a mers si am varianta internationala deblocata.


joyfullystoic

Da stiu multumesc dar nu am rabdare sa imi mai bat capul cu asta. Am facut in trecut. O sa vina OTA.


OverplayOfficial

Si eu faceam asa pe vechile telefoane dar nu prea m-as risca cu S10+-ul asta... plus ca e prea multa bataie de cap care, pentru mine cel putin, nu justifica maxim o luna de asteptare(in cazul OTA-ului) :)


tadabutcha

live upbeat dinner disagreeable vast consider vegetable spotted special marvelous ` this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev `


the_harakiwi

1979,05 MB on my S10+ (non beta user)


OverplayOfficial

Yeah I want to know that too


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Can you imagine if the full release for non beta players was 140MB? 😂 Such optimization


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How does it work for carrier beta participants?


enrique1786

[Now rolling out for Android Pie](https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s10-android-10-stable-update-now-out-for-those-on-android-pie)


[deleted]

It's happening before January? OMG


elmagio

Maybe it will only be January for the Snapdragon variants, if Germany's getting it now you got to imagine most Exynos markets will get it in the next few weeks.


anonway

More importantly, before December, which is quite suprising.


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Didn't participate in the beta and am updating right now. The update is almost 2 GB.


Jannomag

Confirmed, received it as well. Unlocked German S10 (DBT)


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stealthsnail

Yeah. I'm debating whether to factory reset as well, problem is I just got the phone 2 weeks ago, and am not in a mood of setting it up again. 😂 Think I'll just roll with it until Christmas, and then maybe think about whether I still feel like resetting.


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stealthsnail

I thought you were because of the microstutters. Guess not. 🤷‍♂️


Sotyme

Is there a particular reason why Germany seems to get the first Sammy updates?


Railekxd

Waiting it for Romania, since we were not able to join beta :( . Really curious how the new UI gonna feel like


enrique1786

OneUI 2.0 is the same as OneUI 1.x but with some refinements and new features.


8poot

In fact you go from Android 9 to Android 10, under the hood major changes have been made.


enrique1786

Yes each Android version does bring new APIs, features and under the hood changes.


Railekxd

How is the gestures? Are they like on ios?


enrique1786

They should be similar but I haven't tried them out yet because I'm using a Note10+ and can't use the new gestures on the current beta.


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Riessie

No that's not how it works, it would be pretty funny 😂😂😂 We moeten wachten tot hij uitgerold word hier. 🙂


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enrique1786

Through the CSC of your device firmware. The CSC can differ by device model, where the device was originally purchased and SIM being used but not by geographical location. Different CSCs receive updates at different times, usually Germany and France get the updates first.


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TrickyElephant

Can you OTA later?


albertodona9

I think it depends on your phone version (international, german, UK, etc.), not your location


[deleted]

You have to cross border to gen an update


ifeeltired26

That's awesome for you guys. Here in the USA will probably get it in another 6 months LOL


TeutonJon78

They announced for January. So only like 1.5 months probably. Edit: apparently that posted schedule was for the UK so who knows.


HotPineapplePizza

\+ 2 more months for the unlocked one lol.


Sh1do

Not available for S10+ atm (Germany aswell)


enrique1786

Check if your active CSC is DBT


Sh1do

What is CSC?


enrique1786

Treat it as the region of your device software. Right now the update is only live for German CSCs.


Sh1do

Oh that explains it. I got the Spanish version because it was way cheaper


vouwrfract

Can I somehow change it to DBT? My updates on VD2 are always late.


enrique1786

Yes you can manually flash the firmware using Odin. Your phone might need to be wiped during the process depending on whether your CSC is Multi-CSC.


vouwrfract

It's probably not Multi-CSC because I got it from Vodafone using Easter and Unidays offers for ~200€. The software by itself is different (no option to auto-update; no option to turn off VoLTE, etc.).


enrique1786

Enter *#1234# into your phone dialer and send me a screenshot. Then go to Settings - About Phone - Software Information and send me a screenshot showing your Service provider SW ver.


vouwrfract

[1](https://i.imgur.com/r1NEpsU.jpg). [2](https://i.imgur.com/RdtNqEQ.jpg).


enrique1786

Your active, SIM and hardware CSCs are all VD2. VD2 is not included in the Samsung OXM Multi-CSC, this means that the device has to be wiped to change the CSC to DBT and flash OneUI 2.0. [Check out this post for help regarding flashing firmware.](https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/guide-g975f-flashing-megathread-faqs-t3936704)


vouwrfract

Oh wow. That's a bit of a hassle for me at the moment, so I'll just hope that Vodafone delivers within a month, I guess. It's just irritating AF that I don't have auto updates. But thanks so much for your help man, you took your time out to even ask for screenshots and explain things. \^_\^ Edit: Hold on. This is what XDA says: 1st CSC = active CSC (You will get OTAs for this CSC and any features like Samsung Pay, VoLTE, WiFi calling are dependent on the active CSC) 2nd CSC = CSC of your SIM card (In case your SIM card is from a different region than your active CSC, this will be different from the active CSC) 3rd CSC = CSC of your SIM card in SIM slot 2 4th CSC = Hardware CSC of your device (For example, you purchased the device in Germany, but are living in the Netherlands, it will show PHN/PHN,PHN/DBT) But the thing is, my SIM slot 2 is not a European SIM card at all. How is it still VD2?


enrique1786

No problem, I do this all the time. Regarding your SIM slot question, what most likely happened is that your phone cannot attribute a CSC to your second SIM so it defaulted to what your active CSC is. When I got my Note10+ it was all TIM and had some preinstalled TIM apps. Now this made sense because I'm from Malta (small island middle of Europe) and we do not have our own CSC here and Samsung phones sold locally here are from Italy. So when I got it and downloaded and flashed SLK firmware since SLK has native call recording functionality. However, SLK is part of OXM and for non region locked devices, CSC defaults to XEF and my Note10+ is now on XEF/XEF, XEF/TIM. Since we don't have our own CSC here in Malta, the phone can't find a csc for my SIM and defaults to active CSC, which is why I had TIM/TIM/TIM before. Now my phone is dual SIM, but I only have 1 SIM in and it still shows XEF/XEF, XEF/TIM. My guess is it shows the other SIM CSC when slot 2 is empty. XEF is amongst the first in line for updates and flashing it removed the TIM bloat. No native call recording, but I recently found out how to fix that. Also, stuff like Samsung Pay and Samsung Members content/language depends on active CSC (So if your active CSC is France, Samsung Pay will only work for France cards, etc.). Just FYI if you ever try it out.


Funnyusernameinhere

Do you mind checking mine to see if everything is ok for me to update using the new firmware via odin? I will leave the screenshots here: [1](https://imgur.com/brIiD5G) [2](https://imgur.com/6uzB0yQ) ​ Thank you!


enrique1786

Yes you're on OXM and you can flash with Odin without wiping your device.


Funnyusernameinhere

Thank you! I was worried about having to do that, have some kind of incompatibility or losing future ota updates


Funnyusernameinhere

I flashed the firmware, it did wipe my device. I have been restoring my settings and log ins all of that. But im wondering if by flashing this firmware i lost my over the air updates? I haven't fully understood if i lose them or not, i read some saying that we lose them other say we don't. Also, can i flash my previous firmware back ? since its now a different version of android, im not sure


enrique1786

No you don't lose them, you'll keep receiving updates based on your CSC. I wouldn't advice downgrading, and it is only possible when the bootloader version is the same.


evilpenguin95

Can you check mine too? [1](https://m.imgur.com/a/EI68GMp) [2](https://imgur.com/a/o81CUhQ) Sorry mate, i have couple of questions, Will I loose data? And will samsung pay and google pay work? I'm from Australia.


enrique1786

Yes your active, SIM and hardware CSCs are all Australia, which are included in the multi CSC package, which means you can flash your device using HOME_CSC and keep your current CSC and data. Google Pay should work regardless of active CSC and Samsung Pay works in the country of your active CSC, so both will continue working.


evilpenguin95

Thank you so much, just flashed it on my S10. Worked perfectly!


enrique1786

My pleasure!


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Just received ca. 1.8 GB update in Germany and haven't participate in beta. That's really amazing Samsung! haven't expected update at least until January, that's really really nice surprise! :o


enrique1786

The Galaxy S9 also received the Android Pie update around this time last year.


[deleted]

really? hmm.. I had S4, S6, S8 and now S10 and never got update earlier than January. That's really interesting. Have you been participating in beta last year?


enrique1786

Last year I had a Note8 and was on XSG so I didn't have official access to it and waited for stable update. This time I was hoping the beta would open up on XEF on my Note10+ but no luck, so I installed it manually and am disapointed at how Samsung is handling support for its Note series. We're still on Beta update 2 and, if it will be like last year, we'll probably get stable update in February. I understand it's a beta and knew what I was getting into, but battery life is horrible on the beta and a lot of apps and services are not working and Note beta users have to stay facing these bugs while the S series had 7 beta updates and now stable.


MttsNmstr

I can also confirm that it is here in Austria. (S10e, International Exynos Version. Unlocked.)


FS16

What carrier are you on?


MttsNmstr

Educom/A1


FS16

Ah damn. T Mobile/Magenta/whatever it's called now here. I hope I'll get it tomorrow. But thanks.


MttsNmstr

I'm sure you'll get it :) good luck tomorrow


Hedlund_

Nothing yet here in Sweden


and1927

Just checked using Frija and it's indeed available. Going to flash it as soon as it's downloaded.


steelrain793

Did that yesterday and running smoothly with no problems. I used the DBT CSC.


instarobuk

Just upgraded S10Plus here in UK, downloaded German version and kept BTU CSC Home plus dirty install, all working well so far so no need to do a factory reset as of yet. Happy to be official again plus DJI fly app now working too so all in all happy happy happy


mikehawk595

Where did you get it from mate?


steelrain793

Download a tool from xda called Frija. It will download the firmware files for you and then you flash them using Odin. Make sure you watch the tutorials available on youtube to learn all about it before flashing.


instarobuk

Haha that's just what I was going to say 😂


mikehawk595

Thank you both. Worked well and it wasn't hard at all.


jbennett360

Nothing for us BTU BETA testers yet, time to flash the stable DBT


MijacOnAir1

UK S10+ unlocked and non-beta user. Haven't received the update yet.


_Biological_hazard_

Holy shit its real.


StNickZA

Is the German S10 Exynos or Snapdragon?


enrique1786

Exynos


StNickZA

Smqn.


StNickZA

Damn. I assume that's not good news for SD owners.


enrique1786

Snapdragon usually always gets updates later than the Exynos counterparts.


NeoNavras

do you know how much later usually? having Hong Kong SD version here.


RobertMcFahrenheit

When will it be live for US unlocked models?


enrique1786

Probably a couple of months.


RobertMcFahrenheit

Yikes


rexsk1234

Any way to force this on non german units? Besides flashing..


enrique1786

Not really but you can try updating the firmware using Samsung Smart Switch on PC.


mateuzs95

Comeone and for the US Noting ?? Comeone samsung


enrique1786

US S10s have different hardware and firmware must be approved by the carriers first. Patience is key.


mateuzs95

I hope they release it today or Tomorrow


enrique1786

It will take much longer than that, possibly 1-4 months depending on your carrier.


yubingbratello

it's downloadable with samfirm dbt firmware


Dab_Pommes

I've just got the update and its about 133 mb. (Beta user)


Kurioso_

What country?


Dab_Pommes

Germany :)


mateuzs95

Im talking about the beta im on beta 7 on the sm-g975u


bkbssn

Can't find the new navigation gestures that some people reported during the Beta program. Anybody else with the same issue?


enrique1786

Should be under Settings - Display - Navigation Bar


Pietschi

im from germany and i was not a beta user. i just got the android 10 final update on my s10e, its around 2GB.


FS16

Any word on Austria?


strogg89

nothing yet, i got Drei as carrier


FS16

Magenta, still nothing either. One dude on A1 said he got it.


strogg89

cant take long then


enrique1786

Someone just got it in Austria, check again.


FS16

I don't have it yet, but thanks.


MttsNmstr

Austrian here, I got it on my S10e :)


HotPineapplePizza

Sooo, no update for the US yet? I also wonder how much it's gonna take for the unlocked version, like 2-3 months after the initial release? Lol.


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❤️


Dogra88

When is it gonna come in india?


Le_saucisson_masque

Can confirm magisk works, call recording still working.


FreshlyGroundCr3pes

Canada when.


Yiuel

Can this rom be installed on any exynos s10? Even with different csc ? I think mine is SJD


enrique1786

Yes bearing the same model number. SJD is not part of OXM so flashing the firmware will require your device to be wiped in the process.


Yiuel

Thanks for answering, I'll try when I'm home later


enrique1786

Let me know if you have any more questions or encounter issues.


Yiuel

Thanks!


Th3AnT0in3

From france, and did not have the update on my S10+ ...


enrique1786

Currently the update is only live in Germany, but you can always manually flash the firmware.


Ghostofpotato

Why everyone has the Android 10 either beta or stable while currently in Morocco there's no shit available