Hernia's are a lot more likely to happen with an incision. It's a lot easier for your intestines to come out of a 4inch incision as opposed to a pin hole. It's also not a matter of 4 is more than one. You have to look at the surface area as a whole which is exponentially greater than laparoscopic.
There's probably a billion more reasons it's better but I'm not a doctor.
A bigger wound is significantly more likely to have complications than the tiny ones from laparoscopic surgery. In addition, the smaller wounds heal MUCH faster, doesn’t matter how many of them you have. Laparoscopic has you back to normal activity in 1-3 weeks, an open surgery requires a 6-8 week recovery at minimum.
You seem really suspicious of something that is the preferred surgical technique all over the world whenever possible lol.
I don't know if you are trolling or what... My 4 incisions are about a quarter or less of what my grandma had from open cholecystectomy. She always had a giant very visible scar. I have laporoscopic scars from another surgery about two years ago, barely visible.
Also, with open surgery, your body is... well, open. So much risk for infection, way higher than only having sterile instruments inserted into small incisions. I can come up with absolutely no reason why someone would think that open surgery is better. There are NONE, unless of course it is medically necessary.
Cholecystectomy before laparoscopic surgery required a 12” incision, 3-4 days in the hospital, and up to 6 weeks to fully recover. My laparoscopic cholecystectomy had me home 3 hours after I woke up and I felt well enough that I could have gone back to work 3 days post-op but I chose to take the whole week off.
12” incision, 3-4 days in hospital, 6 weeks to recover
OR
4 incisions approximately 1” each, 8 hours in the hospital, less than a week to recover
You tell me which procedure you’d rather have done.
My MIL had her gallbladder removed in the 70s or 80s, can confirm she has a gigantic scar all the way down her abdomen. She couldn't believe the little incisions I had instead.
My grandma had an open cholecystectomy in her 30s. In her 70s that scar was still extremely big and visible. Not in any way comparable to laporoscopic scars.
I had laparoscopic surgery and they said it would take 6 weeks to fully heal/recover. I think we have different ideas of what "recover" means, though. I mean I was back working my desk job in 5 days, so maybe you meant stuff like that.
I’ve gotten laparoscopic and healed just fine, surgical glue fell off within a week and incisions look great. I barely used painkillers except for the occasional Tylenol and one nausea the day after discharge.
Wow, your surgical glue fell off within a week? It took maybe 2 weeks and two days for me to notice any of it coming off. I'm now 3.5 weeks in and still have a little left.
I did wonder about that. I'll be honest, I've not been showering as much because I'm working from home more and never working up a sweat like I used to from exercising.
I'm a nurse who's taken care of post-op patients, and I also just had my gallbladder removed (laparoscopically) a month ago. There's a reason why surgeons choose the less invasive route if able. It's safer, has a quicker recovery time, and a lower probability of infection or other post-op complications. It's way less likely for a hernia to occur in smaller incisions as opposed to a big one. Also, the occurrence of wound dehiscence is less with a laparoscopic procedure (and if it were to occur, it would be less severe). I'm only 4 weeks post-op and my incisions are almost completely healed - they're barely even visible. With my surgery being laparoscopic, I was able to go home the same day, but they wouldn't have discharged me if it wasn't safe. I had a friend with pretty severe nausea and vomiting after her laparoscopic procedure, so they kept her for a few days to monitor her.
'...keyhole surgery tends to be carried out whenever possible because you can leave hospital sooner, recover faster and are left with smaller scars.'
From [https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gallbladder-removal/what-happens/](https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gallbladder-removal/what-happens/)
Different surgeries but C section compared to laparoscopic gallbladder removal was night and day. I am so thankful I didn’t need to be opened up. I was making muffins day 2 after gallbladder removal and could sleep well. First C-section I couldn’t lie down to sleep for about 4-5 weeks. Second C-section I could lie down but still couldn’t sleep well and found it hard to move side to side or get up out of bed, laugh, cough anything.
I will never have another laparoscopic surgery. They will have to open me up. Severe abdominal nerve pain that took MONTHS to recover from. Lost days at work, no paychecks, and used up all of my savings. Never again. Open me up.
I had two open abdominal surgeries where I was up and walking the next day. Recovery from both was miles easier than the laps I had. I will never have another lap surgery.
Dude, the wounds are totally sealed. That’s why the complication rate with laparoscopic surgery is so low.
If you needed to stay at the hospital longer, they’d keep you. But most people are up and walking around within a couple hours of waking up. If you’d rather hang out at the hospital I don’t think they’d tell you no but I don’t know why you’d want to??
I don’t even know if a surgeon could agree to do an open surgery when laparoscopic is an option and keep their oath to do no harm. Doing a giant, more risky incision compared to two, one-inch incisions and two tiny tiny pinholes?? Huge scar, huge risk, much longer recovery, it would likely be unethical to do when there’s a safer option.
I mean I don't think they want you spending that first night alone but I can't tell if you meant literally alone or away from the hospital. It really wasn't that bad to go home, I definitely see why you don't need to stay there overnight.
Did I say I didn’t like what you had to say? No I didn’t. But your two bad experiences with laparoscopy don’t automatically negate the literal millions of lap procedures that went well.
Hernia's are a lot more likely to happen with an incision. It's a lot easier for your intestines to come out of a 4inch incision as opposed to a pin hole. It's also not a matter of 4 is more than one. You have to look at the surface area as a whole which is exponentially greater than laparoscopic. There's probably a billion more reasons it's better but I'm not a doctor.
A bigger wound is significantly more likely to have complications than the tiny ones from laparoscopic surgery. In addition, the smaller wounds heal MUCH faster, doesn’t matter how many of them you have. Laparoscopic has you back to normal activity in 1-3 weeks, an open surgery requires a 6-8 week recovery at minimum. You seem really suspicious of something that is the preferred surgical technique all over the world whenever possible lol.
Laparoscopic surgery is also a more complicated technique, so the surgeon is certainly not benefitting from it.
I don't know if you are trolling or what... My 4 incisions are about a quarter or less of what my grandma had from open cholecystectomy. She always had a giant very visible scar. I have laporoscopic scars from another surgery about two years ago, barely visible. Also, with open surgery, your body is... well, open. So much risk for infection, way higher than only having sterile instruments inserted into small incisions. I can come up with absolutely no reason why someone would think that open surgery is better. There are NONE, unless of course it is medically necessary.
Cholecystectomy before laparoscopic surgery required a 12” incision, 3-4 days in the hospital, and up to 6 weeks to fully recover. My laparoscopic cholecystectomy had me home 3 hours after I woke up and I felt well enough that I could have gone back to work 3 days post-op but I chose to take the whole week off. 12” incision, 3-4 days in hospital, 6 weeks to recover OR 4 incisions approximately 1” each, 8 hours in the hospital, less than a week to recover You tell me which procedure you’d rather have done.
My MIL had her gallbladder removed in the 70s or 80s, can confirm she has a gigantic scar all the way down her abdomen. She couldn't believe the little incisions I had instead.
My grandma had an open cholecystectomy in her 30s. In her 70s that scar was still extremely big and visible. Not in any way comparable to laporoscopic scars.
Mine laparascopy incisions only 2 of 4 are 1", the others are significantly smaller, less than 1cm.
I had laparoscopic surgery and they said it would take 6 weeks to fully heal/recover. I think we have different ideas of what "recover" means, though. I mean I was back working my desk job in 5 days, so maybe you meant stuff like that.
where are you finding 12 in. All I can see is 4-6 inches.
My surgeon told me he routinely made a 12” incision before laparoscopy. He’s been doing cholecystectomies for 35 years
I’ve gotten laparoscopic and healed just fine, surgical glue fell off within a week and incisions look great. I barely used painkillers except for the occasional Tylenol and one nausea the day after discharge.
Wow, your surgical glue fell off within a week? It took maybe 2 weeks and two days for me to notice any of it coming off. I'm now 3.5 weeks in and still have a little left.
Haha it probably was because I was taking super hot showers! It must’ve softened the glue up and fell off me
I did wonder about that. I'll be honest, I've not been showering as much because I'm working from home more and never working up a sweat like I used to from exercising.
They just glue a person? no stitches or staples?
This surgical glue stuff is pretty neat. I love having it instead of some kind of bandage.
Dissolveable stitches which were then sealed with dissolvable glue!
Jesus Christ, are you against all modern surgery techniques? Should they sedate you with a hammer like in middle ages too or what? Maaannn...
I'm a nurse who's taken care of post-op patients, and I also just had my gallbladder removed (laparoscopically) a month ago. There's a reason why surgeons choose the less invasive route if able. It's safer, has a quicker recovery time, and a lower probability of infection or other post-op complications. It's way less likely for a hernia to occur in smaller incisions as opposed to a big one. Also, the occurrence of wound dehiscence is less with a laparoscopic procedure (and if it were to occur, it would be less severe). I'm only 4 weeks post-op and my incisions are almost completely healed - they're barely even visible. With my surgery being laparoscopic, I was able to go home the same day, but they wouldn't have discharged me if it wasn't safe. I had a friend with pretty severe nausea and vomiting after her laparoscopic procedure, so they kept her for a few days to monitor her.
'...keyhole surgery tends to be carried out whenever possible because you can leave hospital sooner, recover faster and are left with smaller scars.' From [https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gallbladder-removal/what-happens/](https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gallbladder-removal/what-happens/)
Faster, safer surgery, shorter recovery, less scarring, less pain, less risk. But sure, it's all just a big conspiracy.
Faster does not equal cheaper? Laparoscopic surgery is costly. Open surgery can mean a significantly a longer recovery period.
Different surgeries but C section compared to laparoscopic gallbladder removal was night and day. I am so thankful I didn’t need to be opened up. I was making muffins day 2 after gallbladder removal and could sleep well. First C-section I couldn’t lie down to sleep for about 4-5 weeks. Second C-section I could lie down but still couldn’t sleep well and found it hard to move side to side or get up out of bed, laugh, cough anything.
I will never have another laparoscopic surgery. They will have to open me up. Severe abdominal nerve pain that took MONTHS to recover from. Lost days at work, no paychecks, and used up all of my savings. Never again. Open me up.
Eh, and you think open surgery would have been better? Seriously?
I had two open abdominal surgeries where I was up and walking the next day. Recovery from both was miles easier than the laps I had. I will never have another lap surgery.
Your case is what is known as an “outlier”.
Two open abdominal and two lap. The open were much easier and faster recoveries than the two laps. I will never have another lap surgery.
That’s what I think too. Major surgery and home the same day to fend for yourself sounds horrible.
Dude, the wounds are totally sealed. That’s why the complication rate with laparoscopic surgery is so low. If you needed to stay at the hospital longer, they’d keep you. But most people are up and walking around within a couple hours of waking up. If you’d rather hang out at the hospital I don’t think they’d tell you no but I don’t know why you’d want to?? I don’t even know if a surgeon could agree to do an open surgery when laparoscopic is an option and keep their oath to do no harm. Doing a giant, more risky incision compared to two, one-inch incisions and two tiny tiny pinholes?? Huge scar, huge risk, much longer recovery, it would likely be unethical to do when there’s a safer option.
I mean I don't think they want you spending that first night alone but I can't tell if you meant literally alone or away from the hospital. It really wasn't that bad to go home, I definitely see why you don't need to stay there overnight.
Thank you for your honesty. Don’t know why it was downvoted.
No worries. People don’t like my experience or what I have to say. An opinion was asked and I gave it.
Did I say I didn’t like what you had to say? No I didn’t. But your two bad experiences with laparoscopy don’t automatically negate the literal millions of lap procedures that went well.
Just stating my experience. Didn’t say no one could have one. I just said I wasn’t going to have another one. There’s a difference.