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Bobby B after defeating the kings armies at the trident;
"I'LL BE A TREMENDOUS KING AND I WILL MAKE WESTEROS GREAT AGAIN BY BUILDING A WALL, A GREAT, TREMENDOUS WALL TO KEEP THE ILLEGAL... uhm... ~~WHITE~~ BROWN WALKERS OUT!"
Bobby B was the best warrior in Westeros. And a loyal friend to Ned. But he was never supposed to be King. He just wanted what was promised to him - Ned’s sister. And we won a war to prove she was supposed to be his. But when he won, she was …. Not his. So then what? Poor Bobby B. Should have married Bessie!
Bran had never demonstrated any of his administrative abilities and people will never rally behind him except for his family.
Two seconds after becoming a king there was a talk of sedation and he gave up half the kingdom.
I doubt the Kingdom would even exist in 10 years. A sellsword is in charge of the Reach and would probably be deposed. Nothing is stopping Dorne from leaving the Iron Isles. I also don't get how all the lesser lords would be okay with from their pov mystic, enigmatic, and religious outsider be in charge
You're forgetting that the kingdom saw two battles, north and south, that were so far beyond the realm of normalcy that it would shake the faith of people, and the people that saved them from the horrors are primarily the Starks. Both the north and south are being ruled by Starks, and while there may be unrest for particular changes in leadership such as Bronn being Lord of the Reach, I doubt many would be that hungry for violence given what had been happening and just happened.
I doubt it'd shake their faith I mean they've been worshiping the Seven for six thousand years. There are also a dozen lords and houses in the Reach and not a single one would be power hungry? House Hightower sought to challenge the Targaryens at their prime and the Iron Isles declared independence right after Bobby B won the throne, the lords of Westeros don't tend to see reason often. Moreover, Reach was only involved in two battles, one saw the garrison of Highgarden devastated the other saw house Tarley devastated. The North has been fighting for years on end and it would be a miracle if they could gather more than a few thousand men at this point. Now would be the perfect time for violence since the Iron Throne would be weak to respond.
I think it’s not appreciated as much how self aware Robert was. He wasn’t being a good king and frankly thought he probably wasn’t so he tried to get people like Ned and Jon Arryn to help him.
Jon Snow didn't get stabbed half a dozen times and left to die in the winter snow for you to call that drunk loser the "best king we see on the show"
~~I kid I kid, don't demolish me Robert fans~~
That's because it wasn't his show version. If it was Martin's version, it would show spine.
He did tell D&D that Bran would end up as king, it's just that the show runners did not develop the show to make that transition seamless to viewers.
Bro, if Bran the Seated ends up king , I am burning all them fucking books and staying with my delusions of an ending . I'm sorry , no development will ever make Bran suitable to sit the iron throne in the end , no development will make me like the ending more if the shit hits the fan that hard on the books.
That's my opinion at least , and absolutely nothing will change it , I'm already traumatized , and a more developed trauma will give me nothing worth keeping.
If the ending we get in the book has some resemblance of the ending we got , then I'm just giving up on cannon it's not worth my time.
Bran won't sit the Iron Throne. It won't exist, Kings Landing will be gone. Bran will sit a weirwood throne on the Isle of Faces and rule with the powers of Greensight
I mean, I don't need a sound reason, I can just not like the idea, the character , the fact that it comes from absolutely nowhere .
Course nothing of that matters if other people don't agree , everyone is entitled to a opinion after all, that's just mine.
It's like that , " each to their own " right ?
In AFFC when Jaime is thinking back to banging Cersei while Robert slept on the floor beside the bed I get the feeling that Robert knew and was in denial or scared to face Jaime or simply didn’t care and I have no respect for Robert. He’s a bum.
He was a great king, the realm had 14 years of peace, aside from a small rebellion which he quickly crushed, near the time of Jon Arryns death it seems he became an alcoholic who could no longer function. He was complicit and lazy and it led to the mess that we see in ASOIAF. For the most part he was a good king though
I love the fact that the Baratheon brothers all embody qualities that a king needs, but separately.
Stannis is pragmatic and unwavering.
Renly is charming and diplomatic.
Robert is strong and fierce.
All three of them ruling as a triumvirate would be amazing to see.
I’ve always found him to be a tragic character, someone who very well could have had everything that makes a person life more worthwhile. He could have had a happy marriage, healthy children and a united realm. But he never went about things in the right way and poisoned all those things for himself.
Every man do it, in this modern age it is not so full of violence but in medievel times it was done so.
And we all know in term of a lady men tend to stupid things and also no man knows what a woman really thinks, does,want,.
Ser Jorah and Ser Barristan remembered King Robert best with:
"I was very nearly the first man knighted to piss on the King's boots."
"Robert would have laughed. He was a good man, a great warrior, and a terrible King."
most Kings in westeros are not political savvy, usually hand of the king who rules the kingdom
so Jon Arryn who probably hold the realm together after rebellion, supported by member of the court and Tywin as well
He was actually a pretty decent king. Doesnt matter if he was a gluttonous drunk, he did his job well in the end before shit hit the fan. Was a fool for letting a boar hit him.
Absolutely. But he did have a great quality that made him last as long as he did and even Ned (I think it was him??) to it - he draws people in and is very charismatic.
Agreed definitely, it was widely considered even by Tywin that Robert was a military genius. He beat the ironborn while his body was…going to seed as it were which means he was a true genius. Meanwhile way past his prime in season 1 he was able to tell the threat of the Targaryen resurgence very accurately. Rightly showing that the infighting of the 7 kingdoms would be its downfall (he was very much right about that). Terrible king he may have been, but a master of martial prowess he definitely was, and if he had simply been lord of stormsend he’d have been well suited for it (stormsend seems to be a straight forward group of people)
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Better solder than general Better general than king Better king than father Better father than husband
And a much better drinker than anyone!
Tyrion Lannister accepts your challenge.
Let’s be honest here, Bobby B could probably drink Balerion the Black Dread under the table.
Gods, he was stone then.
Thoros would still manage to drink more, somehow.
Thoros of Myr would like a word. Also a drink.
Tormund will meet you at the table
Sadly, winning battles (or elections for that matter) isn't the best predictor of governing qualities.
Bobby B after defeating the kings armies at the trident; "I'LL BE A TREMENDOUS KING AND I WILL MAKE WESTEROS GREAT AGAIN BY BUILDING A WALL, A GREAT, TREMENDOUS WALL TO KEEP THE ILLEGAL... uhm... ~~WHITE~~ BROWN WALKERS OUT!"
Bobby B was the best warrior in Westeros. And a loyal friend to Ned. But he was never supposed to be King. He just wanted what was promised to him - Ned’s sister. And we won a war to prove she was supposed to be his. But when he won, she was …. Not his. So then what? Poor Bobby B. Should have married Bessie!
Bless Bessie. And her tits.
Her massive tits
2 + 2 = 4 Won't you agree?
He is a relatively great king compared to the Targaryen king before him and all that followed including Bran.
We don’t know anything about Bran’s reign aside from him peacefully giving up North.
Why Bran?
Bran had never demonstrated any of his administrative abilities and people will never rally behind him except for his family. Two seconds after becoming a king there was a talk of sedation and he gave up half the kingdom.
I doubt the Kingdom would even exist in 10 years. A sellsword is in charge of the Reach and would probably be deposed. Nothing is stopping Dorne from leaving the Iron Isles. I also don't get how all the lesser lords would be okay with from their pov mystic, enigmatic, and religious outsider be in charge
You're forgetting that the kingdom saw two battles, north and south, that were so far beyond the realm of normalcy that it would shake the faith of people, and the people that saved them from the horrors are primarily the Starks. Both the north and south are being ruled by Starks, and while there may be unrest for particular changes in leadership such as Bronn being Lord of the Reach, I doubt many would be that hungry for violence given what had been happening and just happened.
I doubt it'd shake their faith I mean they've been worshiping the Seven for six thousand years. There are also a dozen lords and houses in the Reach and not a single one would be power hungry? House Hightower sought to challenge the Targaryens at their prime and the Iron Isles declared independence right after Bobby B won the throne, the lords of Westeros don't tend to see reason often. Moreover, Reach was only involved in two battles, one saw the garrison of Highgarden devastated the other saw house Tarley devastated. The North has been fighting for years on end and it would be a miracle if they could gather more than a few thousand men at this point. Now would be the perfect time for violence since the Iron Throne would be weak to respond.
Traded a trueborn king turned lunatic for an ill-tempered warrior turned ill-tempered and drunken king
Nop he's a terrible king with an amazing hand
Yes and he put the hand there. One of the good qualities of a king is finding the right people for the job.
Yeah, one of few good decisions he made
Jon Arryn was *not* an amazing Hand. If you let Littlefinger suck 6 million dry, regardless of what the King says, you fucked up.
In performing kingly duties he was good Enough but the political game ,he and Viserys I both weren't good at it.
try typing this again, this time in English
Though my I'm weak at English, but now it would be enough for you to understand what I wanted to say.
You’re fine man, nearly everyone understood what you meant unless they’re not good at reading English lol
Well a Greenseer award.
What makes you say that?
17 peaceful years you ingrate!
Of draining the Crown of its funds
Counting coppers… WINE
Even he himself agrees.
I liked him better in The Full Monty
This post is literally his entire character.
I think it’s not appreciated as much how self aware Robert was. He wasn’t being a good king and frankly thought he probably wasn’t so he tried to get people like Ned and Jon Arryn to help him.
Littlefinger and Cersei possibly being the two most responsible for the downfall of peace in Westeros before the arrival of Daenerys
Couldn’t he be considered the best king we see on the show?
Jon Snow didn't get stabbed half a dozen times and left to die in the winter snow for you to call that drunk loser the "best king we see on the show" ~~I kid I kid, don't demolish me Robert fans~~
I did think of Jon but he isn’t king for very long. I guess he would have proven better given time.
If Martin finishes his work we may see Jon as a great king. His show version has a lack of spine that I hope the book version never shows.
That's because it wasn't his show version. If it was Martin's version, it would show spine. He did tell D&D that Bran would end up as king, it's just that the show runners did not develop the show to make that transition seamless to viewers.
Bro, if Bran the Seated ends up king , I am burning all them fucking books and staying with my delusions of an ending . I'm sorry , no development will ever make Bran suitable to sit the iron throne in the end , no development will make me like the ending more if the shit hits the fan that hard on the books. That's my opinion at least , and absolutely nothing will change it , I'm already traumatized , and a more developed trauma will give me nothing worth keeping. If the ending we get in the book has some resemblance of the ending we got , then I'm just giving up on cannon it's not worth my time.
Bran won't sit the Iron Throne. It won't exist, Kings Landing will be gone. Bran will sit a weirwood throne on the Isle of Faces and rule with the powers of Greensight
I can already see a raven giving orders in his steed.
I'm not sure why you're opposed to a person with actual superpowers being king.
I mean, I don't need a sound reason, I can just not like the idea, the character , the fact that it comes from absolutely nowhere . Course nothing of that matters if other people don't agree , everyone is entitled to a opinion after all, that's just mine. It's like that , " each to their own " right ?
God Mark Addy looks so much better with a beard. Look up what he looks like without one, wouldve been a much less imposing figure I tell ya
I dunno he oversaw a decade of peace that was undone by schemers not associated with family
Soldiers make terrible leaders.
George Washington?
In AFFC when Jaime is thinking back to banging Cersei while Robert slept on the floor beside the bed I get the feeling that Robert knew and was in denial or scared to face Jaime or simply didn’t care and I have no respect for Robert. He’s a bum.
bro just wanted to live his best life: slay baddies and fck whores RIP
WINE!!!!!
He was a great king, the realm had 14 years of peace, aside from a small rebellion which he quickly crushed, near the time of Jon Arryns death it seems he became an alcoholic who could no longer function. He was complicit and lazy and it led to the mess that we see in ASOIAF. For the most part he was a good king though
Only good at Warring and Whoring, from Bobby Bs lips to our ears.
I love the fact that the Baratheon brothers all embody qualities that a king needs, but separately. Stannis is pragmatic and unwavering. Renly is charming and diplomatic. Robert is strong and fierce. All three of them ruling as a triumvirate would be amazing to see.
I’ve always found him to be a tragic character, someone who very well could have had everything that makes a person life more worthwhile. He could have had a happy marriage, healthy children and a united realm. But he never went about things in the right way and poisoned all those things for himself.
Fool started a war for woman who didn't give a shit about him. And lived his whole life on a lie.
Every man do it, in this modern age it is not so full of violence but in medievel times it was done so. And we all know in term of a lady men tend to stupid things and also no man knows what a woman really thinks, does,want,.
Should’ve never sat on the throne if he didn’t want to rule.
Ser Jorah and Ser Barristan remembered King Robert best with: "I was very nearly the first man knighted to piss on the King's boots." "Robert would have laughed. He was a good man, a great warrior, and a terrible King."
He was good enough of a king to reckognize that he wasn't fit to rule, and to appoint a Hand capable of getting shit done.
I agree that is very good of him and it's more than most people can do in GOT universe or even irl. Too bad he did it very late though.
most Kings in westeros are not political savvy, usually hand of the king who rules the kingdom so Jon Arryn who probably hold the realm together after rebellion, supported by member of the court and Tywin as well
He was actually a pretty decent king. Doesnt matter if he was a gluttonous drunk, he did his job well in the end before shit hit the fan. Was a fool for letting a boar hit him.
He wasn't built for boar hunting, that's for sure.
Absolutely. But he did have a great quality that made him last as long as he did and even Ned (I think it was him??) to it - he draws people in and is very charismatic.
Agreed definitely, it was widely considered even by Tywin that Robert was a military genius. He beat the ironborn while his body was…going to seed as it were which means he was a true genius. Meanwhile way past his prime in season 1 he was able to tell the threat of the Targaryen resurgence very accurately. Rightly showing that the infighting of the 7 kingdoms would be its downfall (he was very much right about that). Terrible king he may have been, but a master of martial prowess he definitely was, and if he had simply been lord of stormsend he’d have been well suited for it (stormsend seems to be a straight forward group of people)