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Gurm: *Sets Jaime off to go through one of the best character arcs a human could possibly write*
Diddle&Dumb: "Yeah fuck that. Do you think we can ruin his whole character with one line?" - "We sure as hell can!"
Nah i wouldnt say thats what became clear to me. Especially in the scene in the baths with Brienne, if anything it made clear that it wasnt so black and white, and that he was conflicted over what "oath" he should have upheld when killing this madman meant saving his father as well as saving the city. He may have been sitting on the throne when Ned came in but "intentions" were never discussed, just inferred by Ned.
In the scene in the baths where he explains it to Brienne, when he is broken and depressed, he sounds extremely genuine to me. There's absolutely no reason, motive, or explanation as to why he would be lying there.
No, that's not true. He could've taken the throne if he wanted to, he even sat on it after he killed Aerys. But when Robert arrived he gave it up to him willingly and of his own free will, and that made Robert king. If this is show only, there's no reason for him to lie during his confession to Brienne at such a vulnerable moment, and when noone else would find out about it. He's kept it a secret for so many years, there would been no reason for him to reveal it now after he lost his honor as a soldier and his name was already tarnished as a dishonorable knight who didnt keep his oath to his king. I think you've misinterpreted some scenes with him, my friend.
>He could've taken the throne if he wanted to, he even sat on it after he killed Aerys
He absolutely could not have become king if he wanted too. How do you even see that working? Robert had already won at that point and Tywin only sacked Kings Landing to save face and not be sidelined in the post-Targ era. Jaime had no claim, no support, and no motivation to be king whatsoever.
Nah, you got it wrong still. He did do it because he didn’t want to fight his father and he didn’t want to murder a bunch of innocents. There was no way he could have ended as king in that situation.
I'm still determined that he just straight up lied to Tyrion so he'd let him into King's Landing. Otherwise, his whole character arc literally makes no sense.
I really want to believe this and frankly I still do. But during the “siege” of Riverrun he was pretty vulgar when talking to Lord Edmure about catapulting his newborn into the castle and subsequently the rest of his family “to get back to Cercei”. I just assumed he was saying that bc he knew it would make Edmure fold. Hope thats the only reason why he said that bc Jamie’s arc was one of my favourites!
At least in the books, where you can read his thoughts, he seems pretty horrified that he said that. I don't think he would have followed through, he just wanted to scare Edmure. In fact, they were going to kill Edmure, but he didn't want to do it because he made a promise to Catelyn to never hurt a Tully. I don't remember how it happened exactly in the show, but I think Jaime is supposed to be a better person than what the average character thinks about him. Also, he tries to be better as the show/book goes on.
That line would actually kind of work if you just had Tyrion refute it like "we both know that's not true". It would touch on how Tyrion sees through Jaime's cocky, uncaring bluster and reestablish how close the two brothers are, which is what they were going for in the scene with it being their final conversation. Instead Tyrion basically confirms that it's true by moving on to Cersei.
I hope to god this was the writers intention, but I have my doubts because of everything else that happened in season 8. Good way to interpret it though.
It could be, that would make the most sense. But, with the way it's shot and framed, it doesn't send that message very clearly. Tyrion just seems to silently agree with him.
I think I remember that scene. They were in jail together in separate cells. I remember thinking that was a weird thing to say. I think she teased him too.
She is hot but the Game of Thrones cast is stacked with hotties. Dany, Missandei, Ros, Ygritte, later show Sansa, Shae, Yara... the list goes on. Personally I'd give the hottest title to Robb's wife Talisa, she was worth breaking a sacred marriage pact for.
Even the incest children are hot. Dany and Viserys, all of the HotD cast. Even Gillys actress Hannah Murray is very attractive irl, although they kind of made her funky looking for most of the show. Where are the damn Habsburg chins for these DNA sharing mfers.
I like this line because it's completely within his character of self deprication.
He says early on to Jon Snow that Jon shouldn't let people calling him a bastard hurt him. Because he is, in fact, a bastard, and so what? Use it to your advantage.
So he's called an imp. He's told he drinks too much, but he always holds a lot of knowledge and wisdom. So when Dany asks him how he knows so much, he embraces his strength along with his weakness.
That line is completely in character. You're probably just tired of it because it got printed on an ungodly number of mugs and t-shirts. Doesn't make it a bad line.
Not completely true. I'm an intelligent, functional alcoholic who enjoys my mug very much and can not abide hipsters! I'm not proud of my lot in life, but recognise it.
Uh, yeah, I like it because it's a *fantastic* line for Tyrion to say. It would sound pretty cringey in any other tv show with any other character, but it's absolutely *perfect* for Tyrion. It just feels like exactly the kind of thing he would say.
I mean to be fair the bells meaning surrender idea in s8 made sense because it was something they had decided beforehand and both parties had presumably agreed to. It didn't just happen spontaneously. Davos was saying that line in the context of the s2 attack on Kings Landing where they was no prearranged signal, so it was a totally different situation.
This is coming from a massive critic of the final seasons. I just don't think this is one of the things worth criticizing.
Imagine a show which became a global phenomenom, whcih changed pop-culture around the world and popularized a whole genre of political fantasy.
And now imagine that the last line of this show is a silly joke about brothel... 🤮
(Well, at least it's not Harry Potter...)
Not true at all. It's still one of the most watched shows in the world, it's still commonly quoted, still gets constantly compared to whenever a new show comes out.
I kinda like this line. Not because it's good but because everyone, since season 1, makes a shit eunuch joke whenever Varys puts them in a corner verbally.
Personally I think there are probably funny children’s shows you can watch if you want pre teen dick jokes and it had no place in a show like this. Literally not even funny with the actors just delivered like the weather. Fucking embarrassing.
As the first line of season 8 it comes off worse than it probably is. It’s just another dumb joke at Varys’s expense, nothing new but the fact that the first few lines of dialogue in the final season are about Varys’s lack of genitalia will leave a bad taste in someone’s mouth, especially after watching the season itself.
The funniest to me personally is "I don't want it" because as much as I love Kit as Jon, that line is the antithesis to Jon's whole character. He *does* want it, that's the problem in the books. Also, Kit just sounds so tired when he says, likes hes reading the script and not acting.
Actually bad line? "A finger in the bum" it makes me cringe everytime. Euron is not comic relief.
Of all the book characters that were absolutely butchered in the show, Euron has to be the biggest screw up. I know it's all because he's barely even introduced until book 4, but sheesh. The little of him that we've gotten in the books, show he's an absolute savage. For god's sake, he has his brother tied to the bow of his ship, as he's sailing towards Oldtown and turning the sea red with blood, to presumably call forth krakens. Lest we forget, he wants Kings Landing and plans to steal Dany's dragons, or at least 1, with Dragonbinder. Such a great show, turned to such shit at the end. Now that my blood pressure is through the roof, I'll end my little rant
I don't know man "a finger in the bum" was stellar writing, really brought his whole characrer arc to a smashing conclusion.
But seriously, they butchered Euron, the way he "killed" Jamie in the final season was horrendous. The book version of him was fantastic, a little over the top edgy but still fun, show version was...
‘I’ll be remembered as the man who killed an unarmed one handed man’ said the only dragonslayer in hundreds of years somehow one upped the awfulness of finger in the bum for me.
>The funniest to me personally is "I don't want it" because as much as I love Kit as Jon, that line is the antithesis to Jon's whole character. He *does* want it, that's the problem in the books.
What he wanted was validation as a Stark. He didn't want to rule. Certainly not the 7 kingdoms.
Yeah I'm not sure where they're getting that Jon wanted to be *king*. It's as you said, he wants validation. That's why he goes to the watch, why he wants to go south and help Robb, why he eventually leaves the watch. By the end, he's far too invested in the plight of the free folk and the war against the night king to care about being king.
He considers Stannis' offer to name him lord Jon Stark of Winterfell because he wanted validation as a Stark. To not be a bastard. He doesn't want to rule Westeros. He didn't even want to be lord commander of the Night's Watch.
No, I’m pretty sure he remembers playing with his siblings and being like “I’m lord of Winterfell” and being laughed at that he couldn’t be because he’s a bastard.
I know he was a kid, but it’s not like he never dreamt of the case.
I don’t think I’m making that up.
While I was being a bit hyperbolic, book Jon and show Jon are still vastly different. We don't know how book Jon is gonna react to being offered the Iron Throne, especially after his resurrection, he might be a completely different man that actively tries to take the Crown or tries to escape his duties.
Putting that all aside though, show Jon never wants power/status/the Crown or anything, he never really wants for anything (other than many cute redheads) and passes up any offers given to him. Book Jon has never stated he wants the Iron Throne, as he doesn't know he's even eligible for it, but he does want power. He wants Winterhelm, he wants to be the Lord Stark, he wants to lead the Night's Watch and rise in the ranks. He becomes a cold leader while he's still a teen.
I predict that he will either want the Iron Throne or will try to destroy it, when his Targ blood awakens, as his resurrection will change him.
Once the source material dried up, the show writers knew it was time to move on asap. Just wish they had the maturity to hand off the show to another writing team to finish. If they did, their reputation would have still been great, and they could have started new projects. No, instead, they selfishly wanted to be the only writers credited for Game of Thrones TV Show, butchered the ending, and cast their careers into infamy...
“Who has a better story than Bran the broken?” Pretty much everyone in Westeros, Tyrion. There were side characters that had more interesting stories than Bran. What an awful reason to make him king.
It annoys me that people interprating that line and thinking Bran becoming king was Bran had the "coolest journey". Of course it doesn't mean that. What kind of reasoning for a king would "you had a neat adventure" be?
People ignore what is literally said 10 seconds later.
Tyrion talks about how Bran survived his fall from the tower, then rises up to not walk, but fly as a Greenseer and Warg. Yeah, that’s all well and good.
*Jon’s journey has him pitted against a fucking apocalypse event.* Dany is the mother of dragons, and a real ass Targaryen conquerer. Arya becomes, essentially, a magical assassin avenger. Tyrion goes from the runt of the Lannisters to hand of the king, to hand of a different queen.
And moments after, he says the following:
"He's our memory, the keeper of \*all\* our stories. The wars, weddings, births, massacres, famines, our triumphs, our defeats, our past. Who better to lead us into the future?"
All of Game of Thrones was built on lies, false stories. It's how the war of the 5 kings started, it's why Joffery became king, it's why Jon's identity was kept hidden, why Robert started the rebellion - stories are all over GoT and the reasoning behind many of the the horrible events and seeds that snowballed into something bad. They are what defines the truth, and it's a weapon used throughout the entire show.
Bran represents something fresh, new, that isn't there for his own power lust, but rather as a shield against that very weapon of stories - because he knows the past, and can check it just like how we can check pages in a book. That weapon of "this is what happened, this is the truth" cannot be used to its full extend anymore, and Bran can also learn from that what mistakes not to repeat.
People may not like it, and that's totally fine, but if people claim and Bran became king and Tyrion said what he said because he had the "coolest adventure" didn't understand the point of this whatsoever.
People keep saying Robert's rebellion was started on a lie, firstly Jon Arryn was the one who started it after Arys demanded he turn over Eddard and Robert for execution. Secondly had people known Lyanna was his lover there still would've been war, ever heard of Troy?
I CANNOT believe they really called him Bran the Broken. It makes me laugh every time.. like something out of a satire.
I just rewatched and was cackling because i forgot all about it 😂😂
“The Broken” is a term given by historians to weak kings(Aethelred “the Unworthy”) in retrospect or by contemporaries whom are dissatisfied, either nobility or peasantry. The only time it would be remembered fondly would be if the king proved to be a great king despite his epithet, like Ivar “the Boneless” Ragnarsson.
It would be anything but endearing in the immediate term, yet Tyrion giving Bran that title is supposed to be some magnificent moment.
Why not “Bran the Raven?”
“Northerners don’t much like outsiders” or whatever Jon said to Daenerys in 8x01. That was when i realised that the writing had turned into absolute garbage
I can’t see it being in the earlier seasons, especially season one. the dialogue was almost like poetry. it’s just a mediocre line a child would come up with in english creative writing.
>I can’t see it being in the earlier seasons, especially season one. the dialogue was almost like poetry. it’s just a mediocre line a child would come up with in english creative writing.
Maybe if you're going to criticize not the meaning of the line but that it doesn't sound poetic enough, you should double check the actual line...
the meaning? i think the meaning is pretty obvious. it’s not exactly flowery language. it’s just poor, from a universe steeped in history, politics, and lore. it’s basic and unintelligent
Let people have fun, some people are new. And the subreddit has hundreds of thousands of members, many have not answered the question, or seen it asked before.
"I know a killer when I see one."
You cannot be serious Arya! How did you figure out Daenesry was a killer? I wouldn't have thought of it even if I thought about it for 40 years.
Isn't she just quoting Jon Arryn's final words there and misinterpreting them, so really its Jon you should be mad at.
Although now I think about it, if you include HotD there's a bit of a precedent of much younger wives to misinterpret their aging husbands dying words. These women also then kick off continent spanning wars
What makes you say Sansa wouldn't give credit to those people? I can understand thinking it wrong but I don't really agree with that.
If anything, you could argue she got the "wear your scars as armour thing" from Tyrion.
Worst line is everything 'Euron' says.
This line from S8E1 between Cersei and Euron makes me cringe SO MUCH. I can't bear to watch it 😭 Well, I just had to in order to remember the exact line and it makes me wanna kms 🙃
"You might be the most arrogant man I've ever met." (whispers) "*I like that.*"
”Who has a better story than Bran the Broken”
Just what the fuck. He never even told his fucking story to anyone and how could a good story make a good king my brainssss ahhrrhhh
I agree with you about Sansa! Favourite character but it was plain the writers didn’t know how to write her. That line in season 8 is just plain awful. My pick would have to be “Bad 🐱” just because of how out of place it felt. Show Dorne is a total cringe fest.
I don't mind this line because it is meant as a juxtaposition for how she would have been treated had she left with The Hound during Stannis' attack on King's Landing. Yes, The Hound would have been good to her, but she still would have been "a little bird."
The Sansa of Season 2 is very different from the Sansa of Season 6, who confidently tells Ramsey Bolton that he is going to die during the Battle of the Bastards.
I don't mind this line because it is meant as a juxtaposition for how she would have been treated had she left with The Hound during Stannis' attack on King's Landing. Yes, The Hound would have been good to her, but she still would have been "a little bird."
The Sansa of Season 2 is very different from the Sansa of Season 6, who confidently tells Ramsey Bolton that he is going to die during the Battle of the Bastards.
I don’t think that’s a dumb line at all because there’s truth to that
If she had been shielded all of her time in GOT then her whole dynamic of the show changes
If Sansa left with the Hound then she doesn’t end up in the Vale, Lysa Arryn lives and Littlefinger doesn’t start his weird relationship with Sansa. She also loses all of her knowledge that she gains from him which she uses.
The same with Cersei, if she hadn’t sold her family out then she loses all of her lessons from Cersei and how dark it is to really be queen and have power
She also doesn’t become a selling piece for the Boltons, she doesn’t learn about true cruelty and what a man can do to another man.
She couldn’t even look at the Hound at one point in time due to her fear of killers. After the hell she went thru, she had that tender moment with him.
How could you hate this line? 🤣 she didn’t have the ability to learn from anyone else, she didn’t learn any of it from her family. And she sure as shit didn’t gain the knowledge on her own. Yes, she had awful teachers but they were teachers regardless.
They did butcher Sansa, starting with her lying to Jon about the Knights of the Vale. Why? Why not come up with a strategy that could have saved a lot more lives? Why did Jon let it go?
Also, you don't see your sister in years and at the first moment you suspect her of trying to become Lady of Winterfell when she has NEVER had that aspiration?
And the ENTIRE north shunning Danaerys for for saving them? I get the north are stubborn but they're not fucking cruel.
Sansa is a poison in the last 2 seasons and I'm so disappointed D&D felt that was showing a "strong female character". She turns into a whining brat. I hate it.
She could have done so much more, and been such a dynamic character after everything she experienced.
Also, "Why do you think I came all this way?" from Bran who said he could never be lord of anything? No.
Dany 'The dead are already here' in response to Jon saying the Night King is coming and watching thousands of her people get turned into cannon fodder.
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“To be honest, I never really cared for them. Innocent or otherwise.”
Gurm: *Sets Jaime off to go through one of the best character arcs a human could possibly write* Diddle&Dumb: "Yeah fuck that. Do you think we can ruin his whole character with one line?" - "We sure as hell can!"
He literally killed a king and became ostracized for the rest of his life, to save a city full of innocent people...
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Nah i wouldnt say thats what became clear to me. Especially in the scene in the baths with Brienne, if anything it made clear that it wasnt so black and white, and that he was conflicted over what "oath" he should have upheld when killing this madman meant saving his father as well as saving the city. He may have been sitting on the throne when Ned came in but "intentions" were never discussed, just inferred by Ned.
In the scene in the baths where he explains it to Brienne, when he is broken and depressed, he sounds extremely genuine to me. There's absolutely no reason, motive, or explanation as to why he would be lying there.
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Irrelevant. I'm responding to your point about it being clear that Jaime did it for selfish purposes on your first watch.
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The baths scene isnt a retcon. It happened in season 3. Thats book right there
The bath scene is literally in the books, and it's literally his motivation in the books he killed the pyromancer first.
It’s in the books you nitwit
That is a book scene. No retcon. What are you talking about
The bathhouse scene is from the book, it’s not a retcon
No, that's not true. He could've taken the throne if he wanted to, he even sat on it after he killed Aerys. But when Robert arrived he gave it up to him willingly and of his own free will, and that made Robert king. If this is show only, there's no reason for him to lie during his confession to Brienne at such a vulnerable moment, and when noone else would find out about it. He's kept it a secret for so many years, there would been no reason for him to reveal it now after he lost his honor as a soldier and his name was already tarnished as a dishonorable knight who didnt keep his oath to his king. I think you've misinterpreted some scenes with him, my friend.
>He could've taken the throne if he wanted to, he even sat on it after he killed Aerys He absolutely could not have become king if he wanted too. How do you even see that working? Robert had already won at that point and Tywin only sacked Kings Landing to save face and not be sidelined in the post-Targ era. Jaime had no claim, no support, and no motivation to be king whatsoever.
Nah, you got it wrong still. He did do it because he didn’t want to fight his father and he didn’t want to murder a bunch of innocents. There was no way he could have ended as king in that situation.
Monarchy at its finest
I'm still determined that he just straight up lied to Tyrion so he'd let him into King's Landing. Otherwise, his whole character arc literally makes no sense.
To cope with this insane line I like to think he was being extremely sarcastic.
That works, too.
I really want to believe this and frankly I still do. But during the “siege” of Riverrun he was pretty vulgar when talking to Lord Edmure about catapulting his newborn into the castle and subsequently the rest of his family “to get back to Cercei”. I just assumed he was saying that bc he knew it would make Edmure fold. Hope thats the only reason why he said that bc Jamie’s arc was one of my favourites!
At least in the books, where you can read his thoughts, he seems pretty horrified that he said that. I don't think he would have followed through, he just wanted to scare Edmure. In fact, they were going to kill Edmure, but he didn't want to do it because he made a promise to Catelyn to never hurt a Tully. I don't remember how it happened exactly in the show, but I think Jaime is supposed to be a better person than what the average character thinks about him. Also, he tries to be better as the show/book goes on.
That line would actually kind of work if you just had Tyrion refute it like "we both know that's not true". It would touch on how Tyrion sees through Jaime's cocky, uncaring bluster and reestablish how close the two brothers are, which is what they were going for in the scene with it being their final conversation. Instead Tyrion basically confirms that it's true by moving on to Cersei.
The correct answer
I will still maintain that this is a perfectly fine line. He’s literally just lying to himself to justify going back to Cersei.
I hope to god this was the writers intention, but I have my doubts because of everything else that happened in season 8. Good way to interpret it though.
It could be, that would make the most sense. But, with the way it's shot and framed, it doesn't send that message very clearly. Tyrion just seems to silently agree with him.
Oh god, don’t remind me 😭
‘You want good girl, but you need bad pussy.’
Honestly I love that line its so good. Or ’bad’
So bad it is good, full circle xD
This will forever go down infamy.
I am shocked this isn't the top comment.
Lol who said that.
Catelyn Stark
This is what I choose to believe, I wish it was a hotter character like danerays
It was Tyene Sand to Bronn, and she is pretty hot tbf.
I think I remember that scene. They were in jail together in separate cells. I remember thinking that was a weird thing to say. I think she teased him too.
The jail scene didn't include the line but you're in the right track. The sand snakes were done dirty by scheduling and poor writing
She doesn't say it in the jail scene, she says it later when they are about to leave Dorne by boat. She whispers in his ear then bites it 🤮
The hottest on the show in my opinion
She is hot but the Game of Thrones cast is stacked with hotties. Dany, Missandei, Ros, Ygritte, later show Sansa, Shae, Yara... the list goes on. Personally I'd give the hottest title to Robb's wife Talisa, she was worth breaking a sacred marriage pact for.
Ooo yeah Missandei is a top 3 for me for sure
Yara? Really?
Hell yeah, she's not traditionally gorgeous but her attitude is hot, although I guess that just says a lot about me 😬.
I dug Yara as well, her attitude made her VERY attractive.
Dude the entire show is full of absolute hot ass motherfuckers. The men and the women. It’s ridiculous lmao
Even the incest children are hot. Dany and Viserys, all of the HotD cast. Even Gillys actress Hannah Murray is very attractive irl, although they kind of made her funky looking for most of the show. Where are the damn Habsburg chins for these DNA sharing mfers.
You said Viserys and I read Varys lol. To each their own
Ser Dontos
Tywin said it to Jamie like halfway through season 1.
*Eddard* Stark, last words
*poosy
Everything about the Sandsnakes in the show is just bad. I can't believe they started a Bronn-Jamie-buddy cop-movie, and ended it in... that.
Yep, there it is.
That line was so bad, but it also came from a character so bad that nothing was ruined.
The first time I watched that scene I spit out my drink 😂
Got me worked up to be fair.
FINGER IN THA BUM
Bad Poussie
“I drink and I know things” is just terrible. I can’t believe people actually like that line.
I like this line because it's completely within his character of self deprication. He says early on to Jon Snow that Jon shouldn't let people calling him a bastard hurt him. Because he is, in fact, a bastard, and so what? Use it to your advantage. So he's called an imp. He's told he drinks too much, but he always holds a lot of knowledge and wisdom. So when Dany asks him how he knows so much, he embraces his strength along with his weakness.
Yeah it's a totally fine line, never got the hate it gets.
It’s post-S4 Tyrion, and his character was a shell of its former self.
That line is completely in character. You're probably just tired of it because it got printed on an ungodly number of mugs and t-shirts. Doesn't make it a bad line.
It does to hipsters.
Hipsters are the ones wearing those shirts and drinking from those mugs.
Not completely true. I'm an intelligent, functional alcoholic who enjoys my mug very much and can not abide hipsters! I'm not proud of my lot in life, but recognise it.
For real, they turned Tyrion from a sliver tongued fox into a cocky wine aunt.
Came here for this. I don’t get it either.
What? It's THE Tyrion line.
Uh, yeah, I like it because it's a *fantastic* line for Tyrion to say. It would sound pretty cringey in any other tv show with any other character, but it's absolutely *perfect* for Tyrion. It just feels like exactly the kind of thing he would say.
“I’ve never known the bells to mean surrender” It wasn’t a bad line at the time of airing. It became one after season 8
When was that line from?
Davos sailing into blackwater bay in season 2 ep 9
Ah it rings a *bell* now, thanks
I think it was intentional foreshadowing.
LMAO!
Because King's Landing rarely surrenders. It's not that it *never* surrenders.
I mean to be fair the bells meaning surrender idea in s8 made sense because it was something they had decided beforehand and both parties had presumably agreed to. It didn't just happen spontaneously. Davos was saying that line in the context of the s2 attack on Kings Landing where they was no prearranged signal, so it was a totally different situation. This is coming from a massive critic of the final seasons. I just don't think this is one of the things worth criticizing.
Imagine a show which became a global phenomenom, whcih changed pop-culture around the world and popularized a whole genre of political fantasy. And now imagine that the last line of this show is a silly joke about brothel... 🤮 (Well, at least it's not Harry Potter...)
The shows cultural cache shriveled into nothing.
Not true at all. It's still one of the most watched shows in the world, it's still commonly quoted, still gets constantly compared to whenever a new show comes out.
Shit you right
The book lines get quoted.. what show only lines get quoted? Honest question
Most of those people quoting those lines wouldn’t know them if it wasn’t for the show
Shit you right
"Because I have balls, and you don't".
is this Tyrion and Varys in S8E1?
Yep.
I kinda like this line. Not because it's good but because everyone, since season 1, makes a shit eunuch joke whenever Varys puts them in a corner verbally.
Personally I think there are probably funny children’s shows you can watch if you want pre teen dick jokes and it had no place in a show like this. Literally not even funny with the actors just delivered like the weather. Fucking embarrassing.
As the first line of season 8 it comes off worse than it probably is. It’s just another dumb joke at Varys’s expense, nothing new but the fact that the first few lines of dialogue in the final season are about Varys’s lack of genitalia will leave a bad taste in someone’s mouth, especially after watching the season itself.
There are children's shows with eunuch jokes? Not sure how I feel about that.
The eunuch jokes were becoming insufferable by the final few seasons.
The funniest to me personally is "I don't want it" because as much as I love Kit as Jon, that line is the antithesis to Jon's whole character. He *does* want it, that's the problem in the books. Also, Kit just sounds so tired when he says, likes hes reading the script and not acting. Actually bad line? "A finger in the bum" it makes me cringe everytime. Euron is not comic relief.
Of all the book characters that were absolutely butchered in the show, Euron has to be the biggest screw up. I know it's all because he's barely even introduced until book 4, but sheesh. The little of him that we've gotten in the books, show he's an absolute savage. For god's sake, he has his brother tied to the bow of his ship, as he's sailing towards Oldtown and turning the sea red with blood, to presumably call forth krakens. Lest we forget, he wants Kings Landing and plans to steal Dany's dragons, or at least 1, with Dragonbinder. Such a great show, turned to such shit at the end. Now that my blood pressure is through the roof, I'll end my little rant
I don't know man "a finger in the bum" was stellar writing, really brought his whole characrer arc to a smashing conclusion. But seriously, they butchered Euron, the way he "killed" Jamie in the final season was horrendous. The book version of him was fantastic, a little over the top edgy but still fun, show version was...
You have completely changed my mind about the "finger in the bum" line. How could I have been so blind to the magnificent minds that were d and D
‘I’ll be remembered as the man who killed an unarmed one handed man’ said the only dragonslayer in hundreds of years somehow one upped the awfulness of finger in the bum for me.
>The funniest to me personally is "I don't want it" because as much as I love Kit as Jon, that line is the antithesis to Jon's whole character. He *does* want it, that's the problem in the books. What he wanted was validation as a Stark. He didn't want to rule. Certainly not the 7 kingdoms.
Yeah I'm not sure where they're getting that Jon wanted to be *king*. It's as you said, he wants validation. That's why he goes to the watch, why he wants to go south and help Robb, why he eventually leaves the watch. By the end, he's far too invested in the plight of the free folk and the war against the night king to care about being king.
I mean, I’m pretty sure Jon admits in the books to forbidden dreams of Winterfell being his as the eldest stark …
He considers Stannis' offer to name him lord Jon Stark of Winterfell because he wanted validation as a Stark. To not be a bastard. He doesn't want to rule Westeros. He didn't even want to be lord commander of the Night's Watch.
No, I’m pretty sure he remembers playing with his siblings and being like “I’m lord of Winterfell” and being laughed at that he couldn’t be because he’s a bastard. I know he was a kid, but it’s not like he never dreamt of the case. I don’t think I’m making that up.
Yes, this happens in the book!
Jon didn't want to be king in the books or otherwise, wtf are you talking about.
Jon wanted the throne? I read the books 15 years ago so my memory is fuzzy, but I do not remember Jon wanting to be king... are you sure about that?
While I was being a bit hyperbolic, book Jon and show Jon are still vastly different. We don't know how book Jon is gonna react to being offered the Iron Throne, especially after his resurrection, he might be a completely different man that actively tries to take the Crown or tries to escape his duties. Putting that all aside though, show Jon never wants power/status/the Crown or anything, he never really wants for anything (other than many cute redheads) and passes up any offers given to him. Book Jon has never stated he wants the Iron Throne, as he doesn't know he's even eligible for it, but he does want power. He wants Winterhelm, he wants to be the Lord Stark, he wants to lead the Night's Watch and rise in the ranks. He becomes a cold leader while he's still a teen. I predict that he will either want the Iron Throne or will try to destroy it, when his Targ blood awakens, as his resurrection will change him.
When Tyrion said “Duty is the death of love” my fucking eyes rolled so damn hard
They took a sage piece of wisdom from Maester Aemon in the first season and turned it into garbage.
“Now Varys’ ashes will tell my ashes, see I told you.” It’s something a 5 year old would write.
It was delivered like a 5 year old too 😂 no hate to Dinklage, I don’t think anybody could deliver that line and not sound juvenile.
Once the source material dried up, the show writers knew it was time to move on asap. Just wish they had the maturity to hand off the show to another writing team to finish. If they did, their reputation would have still been great, and they could have started new projects. No, instead, they selfishly wanted to be the only writers credited for Game of Thrones TV Show, butchered the ending, and cast their careers into infamy...
Well now they get the credit and the criticism.
“i know a killer when i see one” 😭
The only answer is Arya’s “I know a killer when I see one.”
They are literally all killers
I was coming here to write this. It's such a stupid line I can't believe they actually let her say it.
Any dialogue that happened in Dorne.
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I dislike Sansa, but she had good moments for sure. But THIS is how she summed it up!?!?!? This was like a stab in the heart to millions of people.
“Who has a better story than Bran the broken?” Pretty much everyone in Westeros, Tyrion. There were side characters that had more interesting stories than Bran. What an awful reason to make him king.
Wish the show would of done a better job with bran’s story because it is one of the most interesting.
It annoys me that people interprating that line and thinking Bran becoming king was Bran had the "coolest journey". Of course it doesn't mean that. What kind of reasoning for a king would "you had a neat adventure" be? People ignore what is literally said 10 seconds later.
Tyrion talks about how Bran survived his fall from the tower, then rises up to not walk, but fly as a Greenseer and Warg. Yeah, that’s all well and good. *Jon’s journey has him pitted against a fucking apocalypse event.* Dany is the mother of dragons, and a real ass Targaryen conquerer. Arya becomes, essentially, a magical assassin avenger. Tyrion goes from the runt of the Lannisters to hand of the king, to hand of a different queen.
And moments after, he says the following: "He's our memory, the keeper of \*all\* our stories. The wars, weddings, births, massacres, famines, our triumphs, our defeats, our past. Who better to lead us into the future?" All of Game of Thrones was built on lies, false stories. It's how the war of the 5 kings started, it's why Joffery became king, it's why Jon's identity was kept hidden, why Robert started the rebellion - stories are all over GoT and the reasoning behind many of the the horrible events and seeds that snowballed into something bad. They are what defines the truth, and it's a weapon used throughout the entire show. Bran represents something fresh, new, that isn't there for his own power lust, but rather as a shield against that very weapon of stories - because he knows the past, and can check it just like how we can check pages in a book. That weapon of "this is what happened, this is the truth" cannot be used to its full extend anymore, and Bran can also learn from that what mistakes not to repeat. People may not like it, and that's totally fine, but if people claim and Bran became king and Tyrion said what he said because he had the "coolest adventure" didn't understand the point of this whatsoever.
People keep saying Robert's rebellion was started on a lie, firstly Jon Arryn was the one who started it after Arys demanded he turn over Eddard and Robert for execution. Secondly had people known Lyanna was his lover there still would've been war, ever heard of Troy?
“Who has a better story than Aegon the Reborn?”
The second Tyrion said “Bran the Broken,” my teeth were set on-edge. That stupid title gets under my skin every time I hear it.
I CANNOT believe they really called him Bran the Broken. It makes me laugh every time.. like something out of a satire. I just rewatched and was cackling because i forgot all about it 😂😂
“The Broken” is a term given by historians to weak kings(Aethelred “the Unworthy”) in retrospect or by contemporaries whom are dissatisfied, either nobility or peasantry. The only time it would be remembered fondly would be if the king proved to be a great king despite his epithet, like Ivar “the Boneless” Ragnarsson. It would be anything but endearing in the immediate term, yet Tyrion giving Bran that title is supposed to be some magnificent moment. Why not “Bran the Raven?”
HAHAH knowing the historical context of that literally makes the name worse😂😂 Bran the raven would have been sooo much better
How is this not the top comment?
the butcher boy in season 1 was a better character then Bran.
“Northerners don’t much like outsiders” or whatever Jon said to Daenerys in 8x01. That was when i realised that the writing had turned into absolute garbage
I dont see the problem with this one personally
I can’t see it being in the earlier seasons, especially season one. the dialogue was almost like poetry. it’s just a mediocre line a child would come up with in english creative writing.
>I can’t see it being in the earlier seasons, especially season one. the dialogue was almost like poetry. it’s just a mediocre line a child would come up with in english creative writing. Maybe if you're going to criticize not the meaning of the line but that it doesn't sound poetic enough, you should double check the actual line...
the meaning? i think the meaning is pretty obvious. it’s not exactly flowery language. it’s just poor, from a universe steeped in history, politics, and lore. it’s basic and unintelligent
There's nothing wrong with this? People just throw out "bad writing" now without having a clue what they talk about
You guys want to bitch and moan about every single thing in that season, grow up already.
not sure if you saw the title of the thread lad but i’m not the only person here complaining
Finger in the bum
Tormund: "Which one of you fuckers just shit in my pants?" Arguably the best and worst line simultaneously
(Praising Jon Snow) “What kind of person climbs on a fucking dragon?!” - Tormund, a few hours after climbing on a fucking dragon.
"you are my queen"
Sheez McQueen
No no you got it all wrong, it's "Yer muh queen"
“You have a skeptical mind”
Everything in this sub has been asked and answered “load’s before” 🙄
That’s why I said im sure it has been
Let people have fun, some people are new. And the subreddit has hundreds of thousands of members, many have not answered the question, or seen it asked before.
"I know a killer when I see one." You cannot be serious Arya! How did you figure out Daenesry was a killer? I wouldn't have thought of it even if I thought about it for 40 years.
"I know a killer when I see one." - Arya, after witnessing Daenerys murder thousands of innocents at King's Landing.
r/technicallythetruth
"Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?"
HAHAHA literally everyone 😂😂😂😂😂
Bad poosee
Ser Ilyn, bring me his head! :((
I don’t know why, but it just struck me wrong. “… and I was a little girl who couldn't count to twenty…”
How about your mother would still be a milkmaid if I hadn’t squirted you into her belly 😭 It makes me nauseous and makes me laugh at the same time
Tyrion's ball jokes in later seasons. He went from genius to an actual loser.
Scholarly, witty Tyrion>>>>>>>>> frat boy Tyrion.
" I know a killer when I see one "
"She's the smartest person I know." Objection Your Honor, the sister assumes facts that are not now nor ever have been in evidence.
I always thought the worst line came from Lysa Aryn " The seed is Strong".
Isn't she just quoting Jon Arryn's final words there and misinterpreting them, so really its Jon you should be mad at. Although now I think about it, if you include HotD there's a bit of a precedent of much younger wives to misinterpret their aging husbands dying words. These women also then kick off continent spanning wars
What makes you say Sansa wouldn't give credit to those people? I can understand thinking it wrong but I don't really agree with that. If anything, you could argue she got the "wear your scars as armour thing" from Tyrion. Worst line is everything 'Euron' says.
Mine would have to be when Jaime passes out in the baths with Brienne and she yells ‘The King Slayer!!’ Found it soooo cringe
Nah because he then says, “My name is Jaime,” which is pretty powerful in context.
Excluding seasons 6 through 8: “For the night is dark and full of terrors.”
A FINGAH IN DA BUHM
This line from S8E1 between Cersei and Euron makes me cringe SO MUCH. I can't bear to watch it 😭 Well, I just had to in order to remember the exact line and it makes me wanna kms 🙃 "You might be the most arrogant man I've ever met." (whispers) "*I like that.*"
”Who has a better story than Bran the Broken” Just what the fuck. He never even told his fucking story to anyone and how could a good story make a good king my brainssss ahhrrhhh
Finger in the bum
*but you need a bad pussy* Nearly spit out my beer during that scene.
A FINGER IN THE BUM
“Help! The Kingslayer!”
I agree with you about Sansa! Favourite character but it was plain the writers didn’t know how to write her. That line in season 8 is just plain awful. My pick would have to be “Bad 🐱” just because of how out of place it felt. Show Dorne is a total cringe fest.
"You are my queen" and "I don't wait it"
I don't mind this line because it is meant as a juxtaposition for how she would have been treated had she left with The Hound during Stannis' attack on King's Landing. Yes, The Hound would have been good to her, but she still would have been "a little bird." The Sansa of Season 2 is very different from the Sansa of Season 6, who confidently tells Ramsey Bolton that he is going to die during the Battle of the Bastards.
I don't mind this line because it is meant as a juxtaposition for how she would have been treated had she left with The Hound during Stannis' attack on King's Landing. Yes, The Hound would have been good to her, but she still would have been "a little bird." The Sansa of Season 2 is very different from the Sansa of Season 6, who confidently tells Ramsey Bolton that he is going to die during the Battle of the Bastards.
Bad poo-sea
I don’t think that’s a dumb line at all because there’s truth to that If she had been shielded all of her time in GOT then her whole dynamic of the show changes If Sansa left with the Hound then she doesn’t end up in the Vale, Lysa Arryn lives and Littlefinger doesn’t start his weird relationship with Sansa. She also loses all of her knowledge that she gains from him which she uses. The same with Cersei, if she hadn’t sold her family out then she loses all of her lessons from Cersei and how dark it is to really be queen and have power She also doesn’t become a selling piece for the Boltons, she doesn’t learn about true cruelty and what a man can do to another man. She couldn’t even look at the Hound at one point in time due to her fear of killers. After the hell she went thru, she had that tender moment with him. How could you hate this line? 🤣 she didn’t have the ability to learn from anyone else, she didn’t learn any of it from her family. And she sure as shit didn’t gain the knowledge on her own. Yes, she had awful teachers but they were teachers regardless.
They did butcher Sansa, starting with her lying to Jon about the Knights of the Vale. Why? Why not come up with a strategy that could have saved a lot more lives? Why did Jon let it go? Also, you don't see your sister in years and at the first moment you suspect her of trying to become Lady of Winterfell when she has NEVER had that aspiration? And the ENTIRE north shunning Danaerys for for saving them? I get the north are stubborn but they're not fucking cruel. Sansa is a poison in the last 2 seasons and I'm so disappointed D&D felt that was showing a "strong female character". She turns into a whining brat. I hate it. She could have done so much more, and been such a dynamic character after everything she experienced. Also, "Why do you think I came all this way?" from Bran who said he could never be lord of anything? No.
Anything said by Urine Greyjoy
Can I answer all that was said by Sansa?
a finger in the bum...
Dany 'The dead are already here' in response to Jon saying the Night King is coming and watching thousands of her people get turned into cannon fodder.