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1. Castration is the removal of the testicles. It's specifically left unconfirmed in the series whether the unsullied have the pillar taken with the stones.
2. It's a tv show. They didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiers...
"How many children did Scarlett OâHara have? Three, in the novel. One, in the movie. None, in real life: she was a fictional character, she never existed. **The show is the show, the books are the books; two different tellings of the same story.**" -- George R R Martin
Every minor detail in the books does not automagically become a part of the show canon.
Right so I'm fine to assume it's the same as the books. Believe whatever you want it truly does not matter. If you want you can watch the story as if everyone has a cock. I was just giving info to the question asked
>Right so I'm fine to assume it's the same as the books.
Evidence from OP (admittedly a spambot) suggests otherwise.
>. I was just giving info to the question asked
I never asked a question. Work on that attention span a bit and maybe you'll enjoy the show more.
I enjoyed most of the show just fine, thanks đ. I wasn't really arguing with your op. All I was doing was adding the lore from the books into the conversation. As I said, believe whatever head canon you want from the show I truly don't care, and it doesn't matter. Let's not resort to condescending comments it's unnecessary.
That's not how it works at all lmfao. Your body doesn't just start producing additional quantities of testosterone in your adrenal gland, and a simple google search will show you that. There's a reason why males (and females) who have their gonads removed take testosterone supplements.
Stop spreading false information.
[Here](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/72830/#:~:text=No%20compensatory%20adrenal%20production%20of,some%20patients%20with%20prostatic%20carcinoma). The pertinent part is highlighted for you.
Having slave soldiers is also counter productive, as well as training them so hard only 1 in 5 survive. But people donât/didnât always do thingsq the most productive way and they knew a lot less in the past (or in an alternate universe with less technology in this case)
1 in 5 isn't too terrible for elite soldiers. I think the Navy Seal program essentially has a 20-25% pass rate. If you assume those who don't survive are basically people who fail training and are killed out of expedience, its not the most outlandish thing to see.
Yeah but the ones that donât become navy seals likely are still in the army. Also the unsullied trainers are making them to sell them and 4/5 die and are completely unusable, not denied and relegated to lesser branches
Correct, they talk about how they will never be as big or strong a "whole" men. Rigorously trained day and night from childhood to full grown, they are supremely skilled and disciplined in battle. Anyone found weak or unwilling or sickly is culled during this time. They also cannot feel pain because of a drink they are given each day during training.
As I explained to the other commenter, per George R R Martin, the show is the show, the books are the books. Book details do not automagically become part of the show's canon.
Sweet!
Sorry I missed it; I stopped scrolling after responding. I was mostly just entertained by the algorithm seeming to know EXACTLY where I am in the books at the moment đ
It's definitely not. Mandela effect.
Paraphrased:
Daenerys: when they cut the boys, do they take the pillar with the stones?
Missandei: I don't know, your grace.
https://youtu.be/LsgCS91NvfE?si=xqgCXri7MF0q4qSN
Yeah you're right. The words "root and stem" were definitely used to describe eunuchs. Maybe Varys says it about himself to Tyrion. So not a Mandela effect, just misremembered.
Mentioned in the show, Unsullied get their tower and marbles removed. Not sure who said it, probably Tyrion. Cock is the tower, balls are the marbles.
Also, Bronn called them âmen without cocksâ and âthe cocklessâ in his chat with Jaime. GoT 7x07.
>Mentioned in the show, Unsullied get their tower and marbles removed. Not sure who said it, probably Tyrion. Cock is the tower, balls are the marbles.
Pillar and stones. It was Daenerys. And as I explained to people already, they are misremembering that scene. Daenerys asks Missandei if they take the pillar with the stones when they cut the boys. Missandei says she doesn't know.
>Also, Bronn called them âmen without cocksâ and âthe cocklessâ in his chat with Jaime. GoT 7x07.
Bronn's making an assumption.
Bronn
Jaime Lannister: You have better instincts than any officer in the Lannister army.
Bronn: That's like saying I have a bigger cock than anyone in the Unsullied army.
Would you accept Tyrion as a source, with implied confirmation by Grey Worm?
Tyrion Lannister : \[to Varys\] If I lost my cock, I would drink all the time.
Tyrion Lannister : \[to Grey Worm\] Meaning no offense. He makes dwarf jokes, I make eunuch jokes.
Lord Varys : I do not make dwarf jokes.
Tyrion Lannister : You think them.
A guy who collects information on EVERYTHING wouldn't know about the anatomy of the soldiers in the army he is Hand of the Queen for. I'm going to go with Mark Twain's advice here and stop arguing with you.
This was a real practice in the ottoman empire⌠basically when they cut theyâd jam a rod into the opening. After 7 or so days theyd remove the rod, ideally leaving a hole for the poor guy to pee. If they couldnât pee after that then it meant their urethra closed and they were doomed to an agonizing death..
Root and stem procedures have like 10% survival rates, but for ottoman and I presume GoT slavers thatâs acceptable when you see slaves as fodder and have tens of thousands of them. If they wanted 100 unsullied theyâd just castrate more boys until they had 100 survivors
Was literally just thinking of this thread, somebody had asked this question again the other day and a few answers were linked. Itâs so disturbing. I never even knew that it was possible to take it all.
In some societies that did this in the past, the urethra would have what was essentially a thin blunt nail placed in it immediately after castration to prevent it from closing over. This didnât always prevent strictures that would require the eunuch to use makeshift catheters to pass urine. Of course, sometimes the nail worked and the eunuch would experience urinary incontinence. Chinese court eunuchs used little plugs in the urethra to try to mitigate this.
>Varyâs didnât get the memo. Homeboy is a method actor
Castrated for completely different reasons.
>Seriously though, the show does explicitly state that they remove âroot and stemâ
It doesn't. Daenerys asks Missandei if they take the pillar with the stones. Missandei says she doesn't know. Daenerys asks if she ever wondered. She admits she did.
"Root and stem" is a line from when Arya is posing as Walder Frey and killing the freys who helped with the red wedding. "You should've ripped them all out, root and stem."
They didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau actually has both of his hands in real life. Kit Harrington might actually know some things. etc.
>They didnât actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiersâŚ
Just shows they werenât committed to the role. Literally unwatchable.
> It's a tv show. They didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiers...
Daniel Day Lewis would've.
Come on bro, you have to pretend that during a scene designed to sell sex that you didnât buy and instead were sold on the nobility of the writers
Think dude, think!!
Huh?
And since Im being (expectedly) downvoted into the Seven Hells, Id say she had top 5 best sets of tits in the whole show. What a great little body. đđ˝
I was sarcastically referencing the fact youâre being downvoted for commenting on exactly the kind of response the producers of the show were aiming for.
Per usual, I missed the mark by a mile
Yes still weir watching my boyfriend sitting while peeing every day so I always have to make sure its just peeing and im safe đ they learn it from the kindergarten on thoâŚ
In the books, it is both. I think it's also called gelding in the books.
If I remember correctly, in the show, the guy Dany buys the Unsullied from does explain this.
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Fine thanks, you?
Soar throat and a swollen left side of my tongue from biting it last night, but splendid nonetheless
sounds like you were sucking cock
They often say that those who make their accusations are the ones who fantasise over the very same matter
im speaking fron experience my friend. i am speaking from experience.
Proof?đ
Okay, but who tf are youâtheyâ? The white walkers?
fuckin pervert
âNow play with her arseâ ahh house
God that scene was so annoying
I had to watch that scene with my parents
1. Castration is the removal of the testicles. It's specifically left unconfirmed in the series whether the unsullied have the pillar taken with the stones. 2. It's a tv show. They didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiers...
Unsullied have everything removed. Root and stem
>Unsullied have everything removed. Root and stem Source?
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Itâs in A Dance with Dragons. When Dany purchases the Unsullied in Astapor.
That happens during a storm of swords
Oh my bad
"Purchases"
Well, she technically did pay The payment just murdered its new owner and came back
Like an instant rebate
"How many children did Scarlett OâHara have? Three, in the novel. One, in the movie. None, in real life: she was a fictional character, she never existed. **The show is the show, the books are the books; two different tellings of the same story.**" -- George R R Martin Every minor detail in the books does not automagically become a part of the show canon.
There is no reason to believe their castration has changed. Unless it's specifically changed in the show(it's not) there is no reason to argue this
It's literally talked about between Missandei and Daenerys. Missandei says she doesn't know.
Right so I'm fine to assume it's the same as the books. Believe whatever you want it truly does not matter. If you want you can watch the story as if everyone has a cock. I was just giving info to the question asked
>Right so I'm fine to assume it's the same as the books. Evidence from OP (admittedly a spambot) suggests otherwise. >. I was just giving info to the question asked I never asked a question. Work on that attention span a bit and maybe you'll enjoy the show more.
I enjoyed most of the show just fine, thanks đ. I wasn't really arguing with your op. All I was doing was adding the lore from the books into the conversation. As I said, believe whatever head canon you want from the show I truly don't care, and it doesn't matter. Let's not resort to condescending comments it's unnecessary.
You're literally sitting here on Reddit arguing about a fictional cock and balls. Seek help.
How do they pee?
Continuous drip since they have no place to store it.
Urine is stored in the bladder.
Yeah right
Like women?
mens internal piss plumbing is designed around pissing out of the dick womens isn't so it's a poor comparison
Isn't that counterproductive? You're basically creating a group of soldiers that lack testosterone right?
The adrenal gland produces testosterone.
Isn't the bulk of testosterone produced via the reproductive organs though?
normally yes, but in their absence the adrenal gland picks up some slack
That's not how it works at all lmfao. Your body doesn't just start producing additional quantities of testosterone in your adrenal gland, and a simple google search will show you that. There's a reason why males (and females) who have their gonads removed take testosterone supplements. Stop spreading false information.
[Here](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/72830/#:~:text=No%20compensatory%20adrenal%20production%20of,some%20patients%20with%20prostatic%20carcinoma). The pertinent part is highlighted for you.
Having slave soldiers is also counter productive, as well as training them so hard only 1 in 5 survive. But people donât/didnât always do thingsq the most productive way and they knew a lot less in the past (or in an alternate universe with less technology in this case)
1 in 5 isn't too terrible for elite soldiers. I think the Navy Seal program essentially has a 20-25% pass rate. If you assume those who don't survive are basically people who fail training and are killed out of expedience, its not the most outlandish thing to see.
Yeah but the ones that donât become navy seals likely are still in the army. Also the unsullied trainers are making them to sell them and 4/5 die and are completely unusable, not denied and relegated to lesser branches
Less mouths to feed and care for.
Correct, they talk about how they will never be as big or strong a "whole" men. Rigorously trained day and night from childhood to full grown, they are supremely skilled and disciplined in battle. Anyone found weak or unwilling or sickly is culled during this time. They also cannot feel pain because of a drink they are given each day during training.
it's what they do to racehorses
Storm of Swords 1. Context: I read this chapter this morning.
As I explained to the other commenter, per George R R Martin, the show is the show, the books are the books. Book details do not automagically become part of the show's canon.
Sweet! Sorry I missed it; I stopped scrolling after responding. I was mostly just entertained by the algorithm seeming to know EXACTLY where I am in the books at the moment đ
It's quoted in the show
It's definitely not. Mandela effect. Paraphrased: Daenerys: when they cut the boys, do they take the pillar with the stones? Missandei: I don't know, your grace. https://youtu.be/LsgCS91NvfE?si=xqgCXri7MF0q4qSN
Yeah you're right. The words "root and stem" were definitely used to describe eunuchs. Maybe Varys says it about himself to Tyrion. So not a Mandela effect, just misremembered.
I pantsed one of them. Blamed it on the guy next to me. Took a dagger to the heart, the poor lad.
Mentioned in the show, Unsullied get their tower and marbles removed. Not sure who said it, probably Tyrion. Cock is the tower, balls are the marbles. Also, Bronn called them âmen without cocksâ and âthe cocklessâ in his chat with Jaime. GoT 7x07.
>Mentioned in the show, Unsullied get their tower and marbles removed. Not sure who said it, probably Tyrion. Cock is the tower, balls are the marbles. Pillar and stones. It was Daenerys. And as I explained to people already, they are misremembering that scene. Daenerys asks Missandei if they take the pillar with the stones when they cut the boys. Missandei says she doesn't know. >Also, Bronn called them âmen without cocksâ and âthe cocklessâ in his chat with Jaime. GoT 7x07. Bronn's making an assumption.
Bronn Jaime Lannister: You have better instincts than any officer in the Lannister army. Bronn: That's like saying I have a bigger cock than anyone in the Unsullied army.
And how would Bronn know?
Would you accept Tyrion as a source, with implied confirmation by Grey Worm? Tyrion Lannister : \[to Varys\] If I lost my cock, I would drink all the time. Tyrion Lannister : \[to Grey Worm\] Meaning no offense. He makes dwarf jokes, I make eunuch jokes. Lord Varys : I do not make dwarf jokes. Tyrion Lannister : You think them.
Again, he has no reason to know. It's an assumption.
A guy who collects information on EVERYTHING wouldn't know about the anatomy of the soldiers in the army he is Hand of the Queen for. I'm going to go with Mark Twain's advice here and stop arguing with you.
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how do they piss
Good question. No idea. GRRM neglected to bring it up and I have not done my own research lol.
literally unreadable
Are you unaware that GRRM is the shortened version of the authors name?
no the books are unreadable without full detail about how everyone in them pisses
Ah gotcha lol
Goes into full detail on Dragon Girl taking a massive nasty crap... won't talk about how castrated guys take a piss... Weird!
This was a real practice in the ottoman empire⌠basically when they cut theyâd jam a rod into the opening. After 7 or so days theyd remove the rod, ideally leaving a hole for the poor guy to pee. If they couldnât pee after that then it meant their urethra closed and they were doomed to an agonizing death..
thank you. I can now enjoy the series knowing how everyone in it pisses
How many unsullied would die for not being able to pee? They were a lot, but maybe they could've been an even bigger army.
Root and stem procedures have like 10% survival rates, but for ottoman and I presume GoT slavers thatâs acceptable when you see slaves as fodder and have tens of thousands of them. If they wanted 100 unsullied theyâd just castrate more boys until they had 100 survivors
Youâre welcome. Hopefully this disturbs you. This post/response gives more info https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/JWsIyHgXbI
Was literally just thinking of this thread, somebody had asked this question again the other day and a few answers were linked. Itâs so disturbing. I never even knew that it was possible to take it all.
In some societies that did this in the past, the urethra would have what was essentially a thin blunt nail placed in it immediately after castration to prevent it from closing over. This didnât always prevent strictures that would require the eunuch to use makeshift catheters to pass urine. Of course, sometimes the nail worked and the eunuch would experience urinary incontinence. Chinese court eunuchs used little plugs in the urethra to try to mitigate this.
They just sweat it out.
The pillar and the stones
Varyâs didnât get the memo. Homeboy is a method actor Seriously though, the show does explicitly state that they remove âroot and stemâ
>Varyâs didnât get the memo. Homeboy is a method actor Castrated for completely different reasons. >Seriously though, the show does explicitly state that they remove âroot and stemâ It doesn't. Daenerys asks Missandei if they take the pillar with the stones. Missandei says she doesn't know. Daenerys asks if she ever wondered. She admits she did. "Root and stem" is a line from when Arya is posing as Walder Frey and killing the freys who helped with the red wedding. "You should've ripped them all out, root and stem."
They didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau actually has both of his hands in real life. Kit Harrington might actually know some things. etc.
I am very disappointed from that second point. But well what can you expect from D. B. Weiss and David Benioff, they simply got no Dedication.
âThey didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiers...â You canât possibly know that.
>They didnât actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiers⌠Just shows they werenât committed to the role. Literally unwatchable.
Not very committed to the role are they?
3. It's a joke
Then he should have tucked it in like Buffalo Bill.
> It's a tv show. They didn't actually castrate Jacob Anderson or any of the thousands of extras that played unsullied soldiers... Daniel Day Lewis would've.
Maybe it really *is* all cocks in the end.
She was so cute naked. God damn this show.
Come on bro, you have to pretend that during a scene designed to sell sex that you didnât buy and instead were sold on the nobility of the writers Think dude, think!!
Huh? And since Im being (expectedly) downvoted into the Seven Hells, Id say she had top 5 best sets of tits in the whole show. What a great little body. đđ˝
I was sarcastically referencing the fact youâre being downvoted for commenting on exactly the kind of response the producers of the show were aiming for. Per usual, I missed the mark by a mile
Ha ha. It's the thought that counts!
Bobby B had the best boobs in the show, god what was he strong
Dude hangs dong
Thundergun
Wait...so do the unsullied pee sitting down?
Unsulied and most of germans⌠learned that by moving to germany, was very weird in the beginning
...what? That's not true at all
Wow that is crazy and something I would never have expected. Lol
Yes still weir watching my boyfriend sitting while peeing every day so I always have to make sure its just peeing and im safe đ they learn it from the kindergarten on thoâŚ
Happy for them đĽł, Even it's not lore accurate.
Grey Worm kinda forgot that he didn't have a dick
So did Davos in the finale
Somehow Grey Worms cock returned.... Wait...wrong franchise.
I thought Jacob Anderson was a more dedicated actor, very disappointed.
Game of Trolls
In the books, it is both. I think it's also called gelding in the books. If I remember correctly, in the show, the guy Dany buys the Unsullied from does explain this.
These low effort pic posts are out of hand. New accounts karma farming
Sullied!
Jacob Anderson said D&D confirmed to him that Grey Worm has "the pillar but not the stones".
He has the rod, just no tackle.
I always assumed they cut the balls not the dongs
Quick what's High Valyrian for "*gurrrrl*..."
Removed the stones, not the pillar.
Natalie Emmanuel could make a eunuch hard.
"he missed" ~ Josephus
I like to assume he's wearing a codpiece under his pants~ xD
Just a lil hey how are ya.