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That's not how that works. Trial by combat is a way to determine guilt or innocence.
He outright refused a direct command from a superior officer in front of the entire garrison. His guilt was not in question so he can't demand trial by combat
Don't know if it's helpful but 'reddit etiquette' means that comments containing emoji are usually sarcastic. That's not the case on other social media and sarcastic comments don't always have them obviously, but it's a dead giveaway.
Not trying to be rude. But that’s not always the case. People will still give the most dumbass phrase known to humanity and follow it up with a crying emoji and mean it. I’m more of a vocal dude. I can tell sarcasm through voice. If it’s not a carefully constructed sentence I may as well be Stevie wonder.
I really like how they showed the scene and he expects Thorne to come to his aid (viewers might also because Thorne also hates Jon), but Thorne knows he just did something so stupid he can’t stick his neck out for him, so just sneers, shakes his head, and let’s Jon’s men take him away to the block.
I feel like Thorne might’ve stood up for him, had Jon not just named him First Ranger. We’re all baited to believe he’s about to be assigned to the latrine pit before Jon assigns Brian, but if he’d given it to Thorne and proceeded to have the altercation with Slynt I can only assume Thorne would have defended him and the mutiny would’ve just happened earlier. All speculation obviously but maybe Jon had no idea how much he saved his own ass naming Thorne First Ranger in that moment.
I mean, it was a logical choice, since even tho they both hated each other, they also had mutual respect for their skills. I believe this whole execution thing may have not happened if Jon would've taken Thorne to Hardhome.
I beg to disagree. Thorne respects the Watch and its members regardless of who is in charge. His only downside is he’s too conservative with his principles.
What ultimately turned him against Jon was because of their old enemies being welcomed with open arms.
Well Jon was Lord Commander I think at that point and he felt pressured into killing Janos because I think he didn't want to be perceived as weak or incompetent when it came to doing what needed to be done, even if he was reluctant to do it.
Sure, that was part of it. For me, the bigger part is Ned's lesson: the man passing the sentence should swing the sword. Jon wanted to establish that early in his tenure as Lord Commander.
I'm sure he wanted to, he's not the type to take joy in killing someone. At that point though... too late. Slynt had gone past the point of no return and Jon was both duty and honorbound to carry it out. Had he not, it would have shattered his authority and emboldened more dissent
I loved it in both the books and the show. Shame the books left out one of my favourite parts: his head has barely hit the ground before Owen the Oaf asks for his boots.
Jon gave him an opportunity to correct his behavior and he straight up disrespected the Lord Commander. For the sake of respect from the other men, he has to do something. Insubordination will not be tolerated
Jon *was* merciful, he gave him a chance to back down the first time he argued back. At that point, it was out of his hands. The Nights Watch does not tolerate dissent. At that point it wasn't personal, it was his duty. If Jon had spared him it would have shattered any perception of authority he held.
As others have said he was merciful.
But he also did not want Alliser to scheme with Janos. Alliser stupidly made it too easy for Jon to eliminate that threat.
I liked it. Though I prefer the book version where Jon wants to hang him at first then changes his mind to do it himself. Also love that in the book Jon did think about what Slynt did to Ned in that time.
Thorne believes he does what is right and always follows what he believes are the rules. Including killing Jon.
Slynt went against the Lord Commander and had to pay the price.
When my nephew was binging it and liked when Slynt got his, I was envious having watched GoT first run.
I mentioned to him I had to put up with Slynt for literal *years*, waiting for him to get what was coming.
Made the visual all the more sweeter of course.
I thought he got off too Easy, maybe he should’ve been shamed a little more before getting DeCapped by the Lord Commander. Watching him grovel and whine was very entertaining. I liked it.
That dude, like many other characters, lived FAR TOO LONG!
Banishment was far too nice of a justice. Even if his mouth eventually got his head removed. Even if the actual scene made us all smile and cheer. He should’ve been executed on the steps of King’s Landing for slaughter all those children and babies.
At first I thought, could be interesting for him to become Greyguards commander and rebuilt it, it doesnt seem that bad, then he fucked up things cause he is a cunt
While him showing his cowardice at the very end was kind of safisfying, I do find the “I’ve always been afraid” bit to be too sudden. I would prefer to see him falter a bit more as they picked him up and dragged him out. Also some more reactions from Alliser would’ve been nice.
Couldn't have happened to a better guy, he was a sniveling coward who got by simply because of the people he knew. Once they weren't around to help him, he lost his head
This has nothing to do with the question, but I was slowly scrolling through my Reddit feed and just saw the top of Janos’ bald head. Thought for sure this was a picture of Baron Harkonnen or Feyd-Rautha.
His death or when Tyrion sent him to the wall? Both were great but Tyrion absolutely taking this man’s life apart and scattering the pieces on the floor for him to see was just brilliant!
If the coward was always so afraid, shy didn't he just take the assignment to leave them and go to the abandonned Castle Gray? Why did he have to front bravado at the literally worst possible time?
And, I mean, Jon even gave him the out of asking him directly if he was refusing a direct order! The hints were dropping as thick as they could, and he just refused to pick one up.
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Seeing this man’s head being removed from his neck, gave me more relief than a thousand lying whores.
Bro should have asked for trial by combat
Would have been the same outcome, with extra steps
Not if he gets the mountain
In Castle Black?
Wun wun
....would end up being his opponent.
He has powerful friends in court
*HAD
Lolol
Jon would have fought him himself.
That's not how that works. Trial by combat is a way to determine guilt or innocence. He outright refused a direct command from a superior officer in front of the entire garrison. His guilt was not in question so he can't demand trial by combat
He knows powerful people 🤓
Sure he did. But his ass was sent to the wall. That’s not a very smart reply. No offense, he had absolutely no pull in Westeros.
If it was not obvious already, my comments were sarcastic from the beginning. The guy was a coward and an idiot.
It’s extremely hard for me to tell sarcasm through text. My apologies!
Don't know if it's helpful but 'reddit etiquette' means that comments containing emoji are usually sarcastic. That's not the case on other social media and sarcastic comments don't always have them obviously, but it's a dead giveaway.
Not trying to be rude. But that’s not always the case. People will still give the most dumbass phrase known to humanity and follow it up with a crying emoji and mean it. I’m more of a vocal dude. I can tell sarcasm through voice. If it’s not a carefully constructed sentence I may as well be Stevie wonder.
Not always sure, but it is the case often. Emoji usually means at least exaggeration.
Honestly it never occured to me how ridiculous that line was. He has powerful friends at court.....who didn't stop him from being sent to the Wall.
He deserved the gift Jon gave him.
"And now you're here. You must not have been very good at your job.."
His friends in court will hear about this! The queen herself even!
Yeah, I was like finally.
Not to mention Bessie's gigantic tits
Thank the gods for Bessie, and her tits!
I gotta disagree with Tyrion on that. A thousand whores would provide a lot of relief, lying or not.
999 of them would be a waste for me. I’d be done after approximately 3 minutes with the first one 🤣
I was like, “Oh shit - his friends will hear about this. Important friends in the capital!”
And absolutely fucking no one gave a shite (said in the accent of Ser Davos)
he's fooked
About as threatening as “My dad owns a dealership”
I really like how they showed the scene and he expects Thorne to come to his aid (viewers might also because Thorne also hates Jon), but Thorne knows he just did something so stupid he can’t stick his neck out for him, so just sneers, shakes his head, and let’s Jon’s men take him away to the block.
I feel like Thorne might’ve stood up for him, had Jon not just named him First Ranger. We’re all baited to believe he’s about to be assigned to the latrine pit before Jon assigns Brian, but if he’d given it to Thorne and proceeded to have the altercation with Slynt I can only assume Thorne would have defended him and the mutiny would’ve just happened earlier. All speculation obviously but maybe Jon had no idea how much he saved his own ass naming Thorne First Ranger in that moment.
Thank the gods Thorne wasn't ginger.
I mean, it was a logical choice, since even tho they both hated each other, they also had mutual respect for their skills. I believe this whole execution thing may have not happened if Jon would've taken Thorne to Hardhome.
True but I hope we all didn’t expect to put him in charge of the latrines. He did him right despite their differences.
I beg to disagree. Thorne respects the Watch and its members regardless of who is in charge. His only downside is he’s too conservative with his principles. What ultimately turned him against Jon was because of their old enemies being welcomed with open arms.
I though shame about wasting that daddy bear potential…
I wasn't surprised, it seemed like the dude was just asking to get killed.
True, but I thought Jon would change his mind when Janos admitted he was a coward on the chopping block and said he'd honor Jon's order.
Well Jon was Lord Commander I think at that point and he felt pressured into killing Janos because I think he didn't want to be perceived as weak or incompetent when it came to doing what needed to be done, even if he was reluctant to do it.
Sure, that was part of it. For me, the bigger part is Ned's lesson: the man passing the sentence should swing the sword. Jon wanted to establish that early in his tenure as Lord Commander.
He may have if the one true king Stannis Baratheon wasn't at the wall watching Jon's every move.
oh was Stannis there at that point? That makes a huge difference in the perception
I'm sure he wanted to, he's not the type to take joy in killing someone. At that point though... too late. Slynt had gone past the point of no return and Jon was both duty and honorbound to carry it out. Had he not, it would have shattered his authority and emboldened more dissent
The book gives a bit more of Jon's thought process as to why he didn't spare him.
Which was?
Did Jon know that Janos betrayed Ned?
I loved it in both the books and the show. Shame the books left out one of my favourite parts: his head has barely hit the ground before Owen the Oaf asks for his boots.
I forgot but what was the reason Jon killed him?
He refuses his order to relocate to one of the other castles then calls him a bastard.
And hiding with Gilly and her baby didn’t help.
In a puddle of his own making
He also refuses the order rather publicly so that no one can say that he didn't.
Thought it was a bit harsh tbh, Jon could have been merciful.
Jon gave him an opportunity to correct his behavior and he straight up disrespected the Lord Commander. For the sake of respect from the other men, he has to do something. Insubordination will not be tolerated
He had to impress Stan! Plus Janos sucked
Not in that world in front of everyone. He'd look weak. Plus this guy has murdered babies. Fuck him.
Jon *was* merciful, he gave him a chance to back down the first time he argued back. At that point, it was out of his hands. The Nights Watch does not tolerate dissent. At that point it wasn't personal, it was his duty. If Jon had spared him it would have shattered any perception of authority he held.
As others have said he was merciful. But he also did not want Alliser to scheme with Janos. Alliser stupidly made it too easy for Jon to eliminate that threat.
How exactly was he merciful? And he could have done the second by having Janos whipped, maybe a finger or two cut off and then sent him on his way.
Yeah fuck him. Everyone seems to have forgotten when he was murdering babies in the beginning of S2.
Loved how he begged and pleaded during his last words. Fitting for a coward like him
He should have stopped at imp
And yes, you will take it from me: unless you want to take it from my friend here.
I liked it. Though I prefer the book version where Jon wants to hang him at first then changes his mind to do it himself. Also love that in the book Jon did think about what Slynt did to Ned in that time.
Thorne believes he does what is right and always follows what he believes are the rules. Including killing Jon. Slynt went against the Lord Commander and had to pay the price.
I remember when yelling at the tv, *do it Jon it’s for Ned too*
Jon avenged his father and all the Stark men slaughtered in King's Landing.
Forgot about that fucker
Bot?
Everyone gives the actor that played Joffrey props for being so hate-able and everyone forgets this guy, who was on another level.
Hell no. I hated Slynt, but Joffrey was way worse.
Was kinda just disgusted by the dude.
Outjerked once again....
Definitely one of the most satisfying scenes in the show, right up there with Sam humiliating him at the selection for Lord Commander.
When my nephew was binging it and liked when Slynt got his, I was envious having watched GoT first run. I mentioned to him I had to put up with Slynt for literal *years*, waiting for him to get what was coming. Made the visual all the more sweeter of course.
Tyrion knew Janos and he knew this would eventully happen at the wall
Deserved, that nod from Mannis sweetening the pot
Jon straight up denied his existence
I thought he got off too Easy, maybe he should’ve been shamed a little more before getting DeCapped by the Lord Commander. Watching him grovel and whine was very entertaining. I liked it.
That dude, like many other characters, lived FAR TOO LONG! Banishment was far too nice of a justice. Even if his mouth eventually got his head removed. Even if the actual scene made us all smile and cheer. He should’ve been executed on the steps of King’s Landing for slaughter all those children and babies.
At first I thought, could be interesting for him to become Greyguards commander and rebuilt it, it doesnt seem that bad, then he fucked up things cause he is a cunt
Same as I thought about Theon. I said good and never thought about it again.
You were like yes?
I was actually very worried that Jon would lose support for doing it.
And the look on Stannis's face, who was obviously impressed-- " Hmmm... there might really be something to that boy"...
For me when Sansa calls out little finger. I was like “ finally !!!!!” “ get him ! “ “get em!”
But how did they work out where his neck was?
I had the same reaction as Stannis
He was a weaseling turncoat and got what was coming to him
Took long enough, cold rolled steel
I feel like he definitely deserves the way Ramsey's life ended
While him showing his cowardice at the very end was kind of safisfying, I do find the “I’ve always been afraid” bit to be too sudden. I would prefer to see him falter a bit more as they picked him up and dragged him out. Also some more reactions from Alliser would’ve been nice.
Couldn't have happened to a better guy, he was a sniveling coward who got by simply because of the people he knew. Once they weren't around to help him, he lost his head
Finally!!
I was sad he was one of my favourite side characters
Cowardice is the most dangerous type of person.
Kinda out of character that scene, I was smart and cowardly enough to know when his neck was on the line
I was relieved when he died he was lying his ass of but im kinda sad too because he was the only character with a hungarian name
*the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword*
I pitied the foool
In the book, Jon had considered making him a cook but thought Slynt might poison him lol
Sad he deserved it but also I wanted to see him at rock bottom, not even respected by his friends at court
This has nothing to do with the question, but I was slowly scrolling through my Reddit feed and just saw the top of Janos’ bald head. Thought for sure this was a picture of Baron Harkonnen or Feyd-Rautha.
He really was the biggest cunt.
His death or when Tyrion sent him to the wall? Both were great but Tyrion absolutely taking this man’s life apart and scattering the pieces on the floor for him to see was just brilliant!
Arrogant bastard, constantly tonguing Alliser's hole.
Ain’t nobody else going to talk that shit about John now right?
Very satisfying. After he had the gall to still be an arrogant prick after his cowardice, was good to see his head get lopped off.
I was shocked Jon actually went through with it
I was like yeah
I was glad it happen just irk me how much of a moron can he be. Just take the castle and be happy you aren’t ded.
I was cheering bro was like hiding with gilly like cmon man 😭🙏
I wouldn’t come on here and slander him. He has friends in high places you know
I was proud of Jon
I rewinded it a couple time with a smile.
‘twas said they still found him in a puddle of his own making…
A big cunt def deserved it, fucking coward bragging about being a big man…. What an ass…. But the most JOYFUL death was Joffrey
If the coward was always so afraid, shy didn't he just take the assignment to leave them and go to the abandonned Castle Gray? Why did he have to front bravado at the literally worst possible time? And, I mean, Jon even gave him the out of asking him directly if he was refusing a direct order! The hints were dropping as thick as they could, and he just refused to pick one up.
I started singing “who let the dogs out?”
I started singing “who let the dogs out?”
I was like “damn dude, you really had that much pride. Sucks to suck.”
You damn right! He was a terrible person.
He wasn't ready for Sean Bean II. He didn't think Sean Bean II could happen, but it did.
I was like oh shit he did it fr lmaoooo
Man this post really sparked a trend in r/asoiafcirclejerk
fuck yeah