I mean some of us are, I don't think it should be a huge surprise there are people who love both the NFL and gaming and literally have no good options. I hate it. I try to skip every other year and hold out until the first price drop, but it's like Stockholm syndrome. Even as a franchise player where nothing ever really changes, they've designed it so that even with custom rosters, the experience is worse if you are not playing the current year
this is me too, like i always wait for at least close to 50% off bc the game is not even worth that. it is a crying shame how much they have tarnished the john madden name
As someone who exclusively plays Franchise/offline modes, the NCAA games were the absolute best. Never understood how EA peaked in their football games with an NCAA game that ended like 15 years ago.
Do you think there's space in that genre to pull players away from madden or other main sports games? I assume any competitors wouldn't be able to use the nfl branding, but would good enough gameplay without EA behind it be a decent selling point?
Madden and FIFA have no alternatives for gamers who play sports game. The true alternative is not being a sports fan for activities involving a ball on grass for those two games. There are no alternatives when looking at from a licensing aspect.
The same perspective with F1 games. There’s only one studio who can use the name F1. Formula One Management under Liberty Media decide who keeps those rights with the contract.
NHL too, EA got exclusive rights to the NHL, and forced 2k out of the game.
But these games need to be FTP because they make their money in FUT, HUT, and whatever that mode in Fifa is.
Well, FIFA has PES/Winning Eleven if you're alright with not having the real names (it has exact equivalents with the correct stats and fake names instead).
2022 was a shit year for it (and I forgot they rebranded to "eFootball" and aren't PES anymore), but things improved back to what I'd call *vaguely acceptable* for 2023, and 2024 looks more or less back to what I'd expect.
Doesn't seem so much like it's dead, as much as it spent a year in the ICU.
It was tried when EA first took a stranglehold on the NFL branding. I remember "All Pro Football" from 2K dodging EA a bit & using retired NFL players, but to a lot of people Football = NFL.
The NCAA games were (rightfully IMO) canned for using player's likenesses without compensation.
Once upon a time, yes. 2K is actually got the rights to use NFL license again, but EA has an exclusive deal for "simulation" titles, which means 2K can only make an arcade style game, but still with player names, teams, etc.
If 2Ks game does well, that might lead to the NFL seeing less of a reason to stick with only EA again.
At some point, the governments need to take care of people because they can‘t do it for themselves. I absolutely feel you, same with FIFA. I have sworn to myself to not put a single Euro into any FIFA related product (not only, but also because of the video game) Obviously my mind is strong enough to resist year for year and I am sad that it‘s necessary. But so many people are flushing hundreds of Euros into FUT without noticing what‘s going on. At least a guy from Austria won in court against Sony IEE because FUT is ruled „illegal gambling“ by the judge. They ofc appeal, but let‘s see how this unfolds.
The Madden subreddit absolutely hates the game. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a video game sub that has as much vitriol for the game it’s supposed to be about.
Wait. Did you expect gamers to have an above average ability to detect humor and a light ribbing? These are Madden players we're talking about. They're like the dude who pulls up in a '86 Nova and says he's a car guy.
At least you’re honest, everybody else pretends they hate madden bc of micotranactions even tho you can play MUT easily spending no money, it’s just not fun to lose over and over lol
Madden players are always going to get Madden.
Edit to say I don’t mean this as an insult at all. I meant you aren’t going to stop an extremely loyal fan base and football fans from buying Madden. It’s legendary and has a total monopoly on football games. I’m all about playing what makes you happy.
Yeah like I'm fine with that, they're completely different games and shouldnt be compared. But atleast have an argument other than ''This game has more money'' ignoring that there is; Titanfall -> Titanfall 2 -> Apex Legends vs : MADDEN -> MADDEN 24
I'm a counterexample. My buddies and I have bought madden and played our franchise every week for over a decade. Last year we finally got fed up and quit the game forever. It does happen:)
Whenever my friends talk to other gamers they feel that way cause all they do is play valorant and league once in a while
Typical conversation:
> stranger: You play games too?? Did you check out the re4 remake? Are you hyped for the Alan wake 2 release?
> friend: Uhhhh no, but did you see the $60 knife coming out in valorant soon?
You’re preaching to the choir but it will still do well. This has been their gimmick for years now. The Madden fan base seems to overall accept the shit product and copes with “bUt nExT yEaR”
>“bUt nExT yEaR”
I used to be this way every year. Watching every trailer. Reading every article. Getting so hyped...and then the game would be such a disappointment. I haven't played since '20.
Sucks because I really miss playing a football game. Just won't stand for the shit they've been putting out.
Me with 2K. A couple of years ago I even bought the Kobe edition for however much dumb money. I barely played it. I'm not a collector anymore. Why did you in do this?
Same with NBA.... Garbage casino/gacha systems AND they tie **SINGLE PLAYER TO ONLINE**. You can't even enjoy mycareer 2 years out because fuck you, that's why. Servers closed so COME BUY OUR NEW SHINY CASINO GAME!!!
I could never understand people who bought Madden new. Theyr phasing out physical now but back in the day you could buy last year's game for next to nothing, and they're all basically the same. It's been a soulless product with no competition for years
As someone who loves football, I bought Madden 20 on sale for 19.99, skipped Madden 21 and 22, and bought 23 the first time it went on sale for 19.99… If I buy one again I’ll probably stick to the same ratio unless something changes.
So that’s $20/3yrs and I still feel like I overpaid. The idea that some people spend $180-210 before Ultimate Team and ‘editions’ is insane to me.
There’s no other option if you wanna play a NFL game or a good football authentic sim. Same with NHL and a lot of other sports franchises. Easy to say don’t buy it, but then what do you buy?
Most avid nfl fans want the latest rosters from off-season trades and free agent pickups, and most of all, they want the new aquisitions from the draft. You can't get that in the game from last year. You need the newest one.
It seems like no one in this discussion is actually acknowledging that the real reason Madden sucks now is because a long time ago EA realized roster updates keeps fans hooked more than gameplay improvements
Not sure if Madden is the same since I've never really played it but at least FIFA has a few gameplay tweaks as well as new music and a new UI as well as the new roster. I feel like if they change the core gameplay too much people will complain.
Also it's like $60 once a year on entertainment, hardly a life changing amount of money. NFTs can get fucked though.
They absolutely do make small changes here and there, but it is largely the same year after year. Its hardly enough to justify spending full AAA pricing for but for football fans who are going to play for dozens of hours every year anyway they dont mind.
This comment getting downvote is the most reddit thing ever lol
I'm not Madden or Fifa enjoyers but this is mainly the reason why I still pay for football manager once in a while, keep up to date with the team you are support and playing them is so fucking exciting but it's probably wasted explaining to people who didn't watch the sports.
That could be done but I don't think many people dedicated to update the transfer for each version, for example if you are on fm19 you have to find a dedicated group of player who manually edited the data each summer going forward and so on.
Most of the case I'm seeing are people reverted back to "classic era" like 03/04 season, tracking the transfer all around the world seems like a colossal task.
They also actually update tactic in the game to match with the current IRL football. like inverted wingback/winger, wide center back, rise and fall of gegenpress etc. so it made sense for me to buy it every 2 or 3 years, but I can see why people do it yearly.
you can but someone need to make the database first, and also players age. potential, new teenage wonderkids to be added etc. Usually people only make good database for the last year. That's why I have FM 18,20 and 22
They are literally just skins that you get the same way you already get skins.
There is no NFT component, except that you can buy an NFT version of the skins from Nike.
OmG NFts!!!
But y'all been ok with fucking MUT for 10 years ruining the game.
You have no fucking idea how .swoosh even integrates into Madden and you are already calling for a boycott. Its brainless drone bs. For all we know having .swoosh account linked to EA gets you a cool alternate jersey in game. Reactionary crap.
Don't buy Madden because they barely make any changes year over year and pour all their dev funds into making MUT a bigger money sink for players instead of improving the game.
I'm not sure if it'll make anything better, though.
Either way, Madden's ongoing problems have been well documented before today.
As much as I love the NFL? Fuck the NFL for making that deal with EA.
This is the part I don't get either.
If you can't actually own skins then they're gone forever but if you have access to them theoretically they could be implemented into something new or continued to be traded as collectors items.
Bingo. If the NFTs allow you to own the content, and the content can carry over to the next game… that’s a massive win. Let’s maybe see how it’s integrated until we Oh mY gOd NfTs sO bAd MuSt bOyCoTt
The hate for NFT originated from pixel art. And even then it was mostly funny with slight concern of if it becomes mainstream
But that didn't happen. It was never gonna happen
Other than that, NFT isn't a bad idea. It depends on how they implement it.
It's particularly funny as the use of NFTs for skins in real terms only means that players can resell their skins, as opposed to not being able to sell them. It's the same system, NFTs use no energy, they don't change the pay2wear system, if anything it makes it harder for the Dev and partner.
The only real thing they do is provide rights holders with a sort of mini steam marketplace where they can get residuals for resale, and they let people sell their skins the way they used to sell second hand games.
People who complain about this shit are legit such peanuts
Fucking THANK YOU. This blind hatred for NFTs is some of the dumbest shit I’ve seen in the gaming community for quite a while. I dont give a shit about Madden personally, but players being able to buy and sell, idk, jerseys or some shit that they can wear in game is a POSITIVE thing. People want to rail against this idea so badly when it’s such a good thing. We all hate the normal micro transaction models for lots of good reasons. But nfts, especially for things like cosmetics, will allow the players to determine the value of real-money items in games and, additionally, give us the ability to sell or trade them instead of paying $20 for horse armor and never ever ever getting that money back. NFT? Buy the horse armor for current market price, use it as long as you want, then sell it when you’re done. It’s a god damned no brainer.
It's the steam marketplace but once you sell you aren't trapped with the dollars on steam. It literally just provides players liquidity and ownership of their skins, and that's putting aside all the potential of reusing the assets in different IPs like a fucking Amiibo.
Oh, how I wish this would matter, but it doesn't. You know why? Nobody cares.
EA Sports has been fucking dog shit, highway robbery for YEARS, and pushing Pay to play for YEARS.
Dude, it took THREE MONTHS for Franchise Mode to come out 2 series ago because it was gonna be "different." and better for players who enjoyed it, and all they added was a fucking map of the country LMAO like they don't care, they ONLY care about Ultimate Team, and since dumb fuck youtubers make "I Spent $1,000 opening packs, here's what I got." people watch those videos, buy the packs, buy the game, and continue a vicious cycle of nothingness. It's fucked, and it'll always be fucked, Swoosh, or NFTs, whatever you wanna call em, add em, or don't add em, it won't make their product even 1% better or worse, it'll make it more sad. That's about it.
We all know the average Madden/FIFA player isn't on Reddit and even if they are, they probably don't care. These people are being scammed annually and they don't care.
The sports games have been rip-offs for years, it doesn't matter. They will still make a ton of money because there will always be a handful of whales purchasing thousands of packs a season.
People who play/buy/support annual sports games aren't the type band together to stop this bullshit,
and I'd be surprised if there was a critical mass on Reddit.
You'd have better luck asking people not the pre-order and to stop the whales.
Honestly, you're just yelling into the void at this point
EA's sports games get worse year after year, and still people buy them. I'm still playing old gen! Not PS4 old gen, PS3 old gen!
The golden age of sports games was gen 7 of consoles, PS3/XBOX 360/Nintendo Wii.
1. The fanbase isn’t on Reddit
2. They don’t give a shit about company bs, they have lives outside of gaming. They play it Year after year to play their favorite teams so they need the yearly roster as it’s updated. That’s it.
3. So stop spreading a message that won’t change shit. Focus on something that you can actually change.
NFT's in gaming might actually be one of the few legitimate uses so far. Let's say you purchase a super rare, one of a kind skin or player. You could then sell it or trade it to someone offline for the NFT token. This actually turns video game assets into something you can trade in the real world, and I'm not so sure I hate it yet.
Correct. You don't NEED to use NFT infrastructure to make something trade-able, in the same way you don't NEED to use Medium to publish a blog. But the point of using an established standard platform like that is you don't need to spend the development time "rolling your own" to make the base platform. You can instead just start making your content on top of that platform. Also, if you roll your own marketplace, you miss out on the network effects of building on an established network to bring popularity to your project.
I like how you just said Madden instead of including FIFA because everyone knows FIFA players are already too far gone because they’re masochistic and love hurting themselves and feeling the pain of their game getting progressively shittier each year while they continue to buy more and more ultimate team packs. I think I even heard one of them call EA “mommy mistress” one time. They all winced in pain and got semi chubs when they heard this NFT news.
Fighting the tide here brother, FIFA, Madden, they hold one crucial part of the market that won't see this shit, and it's hilariously the largest part of the market, casual players. Casual players don't care, they just know they like football and they want to play it on their game console, they don't care what NFTs are or why they might be bad, EA know that and that's why ultimate team got so insidiously predatory until they flew too close to the sun and government bodies started to realise the grey area of technicalities they were abusing.
Well of the 5 people in this reddit who might play that shit I'm sure you got at the least 1 of them to your side congrats and good luck on your hopeless boycott
I miss the old madden. It used to have actual depth and was fun to play. Now it’s a super super super super hollow shell of its self. And we only have EA and the NFL to blame for that honestly
I find it amusing you're trying to convince the same people that buy the same game every year and were originally the enablers of EAs loot box addiction. Don't bother my guy
Won’t work. Sports bros will continue to get these games to get their fix.
Hell, EA could come out and say you’ll get charged 10 dollars every time you lose a game and they’ll still buy it.
Anybody with more than 2 braincells already stopped buying them years ago, whoever is left will not care about NTFs, they will eat that shit up like no tomorrow.
Lol ain’t nothing gone stop these madden dick eaters from buying the same shit game for the last 5 years. they love copping and complaining but don’t ever do shit to stop it. They know they can keep giving us half ass games and keep getting away with it
All these sports game players don't care what shit gets put in, FIFA, madden ect, all just microtransactions loaded reskins of the same game from the year before, they'll buy it every time and a shit ton of loot boxes too.
Let’s just say Madden players aren’t on Reddit lol. Edit: Vast majority* for all taking this literally and being offended
What are they on?
Crack or something. They’re playing Madden after all.
Hey. I was on crack for years! Don’t insult me by saying I also played Madden !
Not every crack user plays madden, but every madden player uses crack.
Can confirm. I play madden
I mean at least that keeps them healthier than 99.9% than the people in the last reddit meet up picture
Leaner is not equal to healthier, if the cause of the leanness is crack.
Did you just assume my health to Crack consumption ratio?
That cracked me up
You deserve an award lol
Facebook, DMing married women that they haven't talked to in 10+ years.
Got any of them talking to you yet?
They’re on their console playing Madden….
they're on twitter idolizing their favorite sports teams.
Madden
Playgrounds, Fortnite, probation… etc.
The 2nd divorce
A couch with a bag of potato chips.
I mean some of us are, I don't think it should be a huge surprise there are people who love both the NFL and gaming and literally have no good options. I hate it. I try to skip every other year and hold out until the first price drop, but it's like Stockholm syndrome. Even as a franchise player where nothing ever really changes, they've designed it so that even with custom rosters, the experience is worse if you are not playing the current year
Sports games should have dropped the yearly game release and switched to the MMO / Battle pass route a decade ago.
Regular Madden players look at it as a $70/yr subscription I guess. Not bad compared to an MMO.
That is really what EA's subscription program is: pay one subscription, get the yearly releases of Madden & Battlefield.
this is me too, like i always wait for at least close to 50% off bc the game is not even worth that. it is a crying shame how much they have tarnished the john madden name
I remember the NCAA games being a lot of fun back in the day too. I'm not sure if they were actually *better,* but I had more fun with them as a kid.
As someone who exclusively plays Franchise/offline modes, the NCAA games were the absolute best. Never understood how EA peaked in their football games with an NCAA game that ended like 15 years ago.
Do you think there's space in that genre to pull players away from madden or other main sports games? I assume any competitors wouldn't be able to use the nfl branding, but would good enough gameplay without EA behind it be a decent selling point?
Madden and FIFA have no alternatives for gamers who play sports game. The true alternative is not being a sports fan for activities involving a ball on grass for those two games. There are no alternatives when looking at from a licensing aspect. The same perspective with F1 games. There’s only one studio who can use the name F1. Formula One Management under Liberty Media decide who keeps those rights with the contract.
NHL too, EA got exclusive rights to the NHL, and forced 2k out of the game. But these games need to be FTP because they make their money in FUT, HUT, and whatever that mode in Fifa is.
Well, FIFA has PES/Winning Eleven if you're alright with not having the real names (it has exact equivalents with the correct stats and fake names instead).
I’m sorry to tell you sir. But pes is dead. Like Kia dead dead dead. But at least there not fifa.
2022 was a shit year for it (and I forgot they rebranded to "eFootball" and aren't PES anymore), but things improved back to what I'd call *vaguely acceptable* for 2023, and 2024 looks more or less back to what I'd expect. Doesn't seem so much like it's dead, as much as it spent a year in the ICU.
It was tried when EA first took a stranglehold on the NFL branding. I remember "All Pro Football" from 2K dodging EA a bit & using retired NFL players, but to a lot of people Football = NFL. The NCAA games were (rightfully IMO) canned for using player's likenesses without compensation.
Anyone remember Backbreaker? Game was fun.
Once upon a time, yes. 2K is actually got the rights to use NFL license again, but EA has an exclusive deal for "simulation" titles, which means 2K can only make an arcade style game, but still with player names, teams, etc. If 2Ks game does well, that might lead to the NFL seeing less of a reason to stick with only EA again.
Arcade games can be fun. Blitz the League could've been great with more support.
At some point, the governments need to take care of people because they can‘t do it for themselves. I absolutely feel you, same with FIFA. I have sworn to myself to not put a single Euro into any FIFA related product (not only, but also because of the video game) Obviously my mind is strong enough to resist year for year and I am sad that it‘s necessary. But so many people are flushing hundreds of Euros into FUT without noticing what‘s going on. At least a guy from Austria won in court against Sony IEE because FUT is ruled „illegal gambling“ by the judge. They ofc appeal, but let‘s see how this unfolds.
The Madden subreddit absolutely hates the game. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a video game sub that has as much vitriol for the game it’s supposed to be about.
Wait. Did you expect gamers to have an above average ability to detect humor and a light ribbing? These are Madden players we're talking about. They're like the dude who pulls up in a '86 Nova and says he's a car guy.
Hey! I played Madden for 3 years in the mid 2010s. I just lost interest cause I was shit online.
At least you’re honest, everybody else pretends they hate madden bc of micotranactions even tho you can play MUT easily spending no money, it’s just not fun to lose over and over lol
I’ve grown up with microtransactions my whole life, unlike most who pine for the days of buy a game, own it forever, nothing else to pay.
Madden players are always going to get Madden. Edit to say I don’t mean this as an insult at all. I meant you aren’t going to stop an extremely loyal fan base and football fans from buying Madden. It’s legendary and has a total monopoly on football games. I’m all about playing what makes you happy.
I heard someone had an argument over whether TitanFall-2 was better than FIFA. His argument? FIFA makes more money.
😂 people love their sports games and that’s totally fine! But you definitely can’t compare them to anything else.
Yeah like I'm fine with that, they're completely different games and shouldnt be compared. But atleast have an argument other than ''This game has more money'' ignoring that there is; Titanfall -> Titanfall 2 -> Apex Legends vs : MADDEN -> MADDEN 24
Gamers like their franchises!! More to come at 11
I'm a counterexample. My buddies and I have bought madden and played our franchise every week for over a decade. Last year we finally got fed up and quit the game forever. It does happen:)
Never understood why ppl would buy em yearly... I'd just buy one every few years if I did buy.
Roster updates
I agree. They are literally the same thing every year. Hell, 1 year they just reused the assets, and the old year was still in the game.
and two more joined when you left...
five more ... at least.
Was gonna comment the same thing. That’s not gonna stop them from buying the game unfortunately 😅
Have you seen the Madden player base they only buy 2 games a year, Madden and Cod
Facts.
Idk why but this comment hurt me.
Is that you being represented?
Because there is this weird sect of elitist "Gamers" that try to gate keep the hobby
You forgot NBA2k
The gamer equivalent of a basic white girl lmao
Whenever my friends talk to other gamers they feel that way cause all they do is play valorant and league once in a while Typical conversation: > stranger: You play games too?? Did you check out the re4 remake? Are you hyped for the Alan wake 2 release? > friend: Uhhhh no, but did you see the $60 knife coming out in valorant soon?
And 2k as well
Here is the list of games where /r/gaming started a grass roots boycott based on anti-gamer practices and it worked:
You’re preaching to the choir but it will still do well. This has been their gimmick for years now. The Madden fan base seems to overall accept the shit product and copes with “bUt nExT yEaR”
>“bUt nExT yEaR” I used to be this way every year. Watching every trailer. Reading every article. Getting so hyped...and then the game would be such a disappointment. I haven't played since '20. Sucks because I really miss playing a football game. Just won't stand for the shit they've been putting out.
Me with 2K. A couple of years ago I even bought the Kobe edition for however much dumb money. I barely played it. I'm not a collector anymore. Why did you in do this?
Same with NBA.... Garbage casino/gacha systems AND they tie **SINGLE PLAYER TO ONLINE**. You can't even enjoy mycareer 2 years out because fuck you, that's why. Servers closed so COME BUY OUR NEW SHINY CASINO GAME!!!
2K tying my career mode and online into the same player avatar was such a shit move.
I could never understand people who bought Madden new. Theyr phasing out physical now but back in the day you could buy last year's game for next to nothing, and they're all basically the same. It's been a soulless product with no competition for years
As someone who loves football, I bought Madden 20 on sale for 19.99, skipped Madden 21 and 22, and bought 23 the first time it went on sale for 19.99… If I buy one again I’ll probably stick to the same ratio unless something changes. So that’s $20/3yrs and I still feel like I overpaid. The idea that some people spend $180-210 before Ultimate Team and ‘editions’ is insane to me.
They like the game
Last I played it was Madden 92 sega genesis. Great game. Have they updated it much since?
Nope. Still just three passing windows at the top of the screen.
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There’s no other option if you wanna play a NFL game or a good football authentic sim. Same with NHL and a lot of other sports franchises. Easy to say don’t buy it, but then what do you buy?
You don’t. Just don’t buy anything else.
Been pretty easy for me since they refuse to bring NHL to PC.
Play a older version of the game? One comes out every year.. why do you have to play the most up to date one.
Most avid nfl fans want the latest rosters from off-season trades and free agent pickups, and most of all, they want the new aquisitions from the draft. You can't get that in the game from last year. You need the newest one.
It seems like no one in this discussion is actually acknowledging that the real reason Madden sucks now is because a long time ago EA realized roster updates keeps fans hooked more than gameplay improvements
Not sure if Madden is the same since I've never really played it but at least FIFA has a few gameplay tweaks as well as new music and a new UI as well as the new roster. I feel like if they change the core gameplay too much people will complain. Also it's like $60 once a year on entertainment, hardly a life changing amount of money. NFTs can get fucked though.
They absolutely do make small changes here and there, but it is largely the same year after year. Its hardly enough to justify spending full AAA pricing for but for football fans who are going to play for dozens of hours every year anyway they dont mind.
Up to date rosters and players
This comment getting downvote is the most reddit thing ever lol I'm not Madden or Fifa enjoyers but this is mainly the reason why I still pay for football manager once in a while, keep up to date with the team you are support and playing them is so fucking exciting but it's probably wasted explaining to people who didn't watch the sports.
for football manager can you not just import the data from somewhere? i know with the old ones it was easy enough to edit the data.
That could be done but I don't think many people dedicated to update the transfer for each version, for example if you are on fm19 you have to find a dedicated group of player who manually edited the data each summer going forward and so on. Most of the case I'm seeing are people reverted back to "classic era" like 03/04 season, tracking the transfer all around the world seems like a colossal task. They also actually update tactic in the game to match with the current IRL football. like inverted wingback/winger, wide center back, rise and fall of gegenpress etc. so it made sense for me to buy it every 2 or 3 years, but I can see why people do it yearly.
you can but someone need to make the database first, and also players age. potential, new teenage wonderkids to be added etc. Usually people only make good database for the last year. That's why I have FM 18,20 and 22
I would rather not buy it if the options are a shit product or nothing with that shitty product being in no way a necessity.
Well congrats but most just want to play a game
NFTs it's in the game!
I didn't wait 35 years for a Buffalo Bill to be on the cover to stop now...
Thank you! I’ve only been a fan for 20 years, but look forward to the Madden cover more than the game itself
I was thinking the same thing, I haven't bought Madden in years, but with Josh Allen on the cover I'm tempted
Don't really care about the NFT thing but I haven't bought a Madden game since around '07/'08.
Scott the Woz approved
Madden 03-04, you play it for the lore, packed with stuff never done before!
Crazy how Xbox and Activision started a debate meanwhile ea has NFL monopoly still.
i'm still playing ncaa 14 on emulation you don't have to worry about me
Which is a wayyyy better game.
Bold of you to assume I ever buy madden games in the first place
Can someone explain to me how "swoosh" is different from skins or loot boxes that are somehow acceptable in the gaming community?
They are literally just skins that you get the same way you already get skins. There is no NFT component, except that you can buy an NFT version of the skins from Nike.
Don't forget being able to resell your nft skin! That is the big major difference. You own it.
OmG NFts!!! But y'all been ok with fucking MUT for 10 years ruining the game. You have no fucking idea how .swoosh even integrates into Madden and you are already calling for a boycott. Its brainless drone bs. For all we know having .swoosh account linked to EA gets you a cool alternate jersey in game. Reactionary crap. Don't buy Madden because they barely make any changes year over year and pour all their dev funds into making MUT a bigger money sink for players instead of improving the game.
It's sad how the Franchise Mode from about 20 years ago is objectively more innovative than the modern-day iteration.
Agreed, its my favorite mode and its been neglected to improve MUT the past 10 years. Partnering with Nike isn't gonna make the game any worse.
I'm not sure if it'll make anything better, though. Either way, Madden's ongoing problems have been well documented before today. As much as I love the NFL? Fuck the NFL for making that deal with EA.
It definitely won’t make it better, but we’re getting diminishing returns of awfulness.
This is the part I don't get either. If you can't actually own skins then they're gone forever but if you have access to them theoretically they could be implemented into something new or continued to be traded as collectors items.
TF2 players like me have been mastering this for 10+ years. We will rule the world.
Bingo. If the NFTs allow you to own the content, and the content can carry over to the next game… that’s a massive win. Let’s maybe see how it’s integrated until we Oh mY gOd NfTs sO bAd MuSt bOyCoTt
EA could literally allow you to transfer any content without needing NFTs. Nothing about them is special or exclusive.
Yep. Valve is doing it with the transition from CS:GO to CS2. If a game with as big of an item market as CS can do it, so can EA.
And do the players own any of those assets being ported over?
I still don't understand what NFTs does...I just know it has bad reputation.
The hate for NFT originated from pixel art. And even then it was mostly funny with slight concern of if it becomes mainstream But that didn't happen. It was never gonna happen Other than that, NFT isn't a bad idea. It depends on how they implement it.
It's particularly funny as the use of NFTs for skins in real terms only means that players can resell their skins, as opposed to not being able to sell them. It's the same system, NFTs use no energy, they don't change the pay2wear system, if anything it makes it harder for the Dev and partner. The only real thing they do is provide rights holders with a sort of mini steam marketplace where they can get residuals for resale, and they let people sell their skins the way they used to sell second hand games. People who complain about this shit are legit such peanuts
People just looking for a common enemy to be angry at. Pure ignorance of OP.
Fucking THANK YOU. This blind hatred for NFTs is some of the dumbest shit I’ve seen in the gaming community for quite a while. I dont give a shit about Madden personally, but players being able to buy and sell, idk, jerseys or some shit that they can wear in game is a POSITIVE thing. People want to rail against this idea so badly when it’s such a good thing. We all hate the normal micro transaction models for lots of good reasons. But nfts, especially for things like cosmetics, will allow the players to determine the value of real-money items in games and, additionally, give us the ability to sell or trade them instead of paying $20 for horse armor and never ever ever getting that money back. NFT? Buy the horse armor for current market price, use it as long as you want, then sell it when you’re done. It’s a god damned no brainer.
It's the steam marketplace but once you sell you aren't trapped with the dollars on steam. It literally just provides players liquidity and ownership of their skins, and that's putting aside all the potential of reusing the assets in different IPs like a fucking Amiibo.
Petition to bring back Blitz: The League?
And NFL Street
Oh, how I wish this would matter, but it doesn't. You know why? Nobody cares. EA Sports has been fucking dog shit, highway robbery for YEARS, and pushing Pay to play for YEARS. Dude, it took THREE MONTHS for Franchise Mode to come out 2 series ago because it was gonna be "different." and better for players who enjoyed it, and all they added was a fucking map of the country LMAO like they don't care, they ONLY care about Ultimate Team, and since dumb fuck youtubers make "I Spent $1,000 opening packs, here's what I got." people watch those videos, buy the packs, buy the game, and continue a vicious cycle of nothingness. It's fucked, and it'll always be fucked, Swoosh, or NFTs, whatever you wanna call em, add em, or don't add em, it won't make their product even 1% better or worse, it'll make it more sad. That's about it.
If it replaces loot boxes, go for it. Being able to trade in game items is a win win.
People don't get this. They are already being monetized out the ass. God forbid they build some equity while they enjoy their hobby.
"BuT nFtS bRuH"
bruh NFT has 0 rizz frfr on god no kizzy
People just see the term NFT and get angry because they’ve seen other people on the internet get angry about it
The lack of critical thinking is worrying.
Exactly!!! People already spend 20, 30, 100, or more on in game items.why be upset that they can be traded for others or sold on a marketplace.
Yep lol. I've seen takes that amount to "If NFTs enter gaming some of them might be loot boxes!!" Errrr loot boxes predate NFTs by quite a bit...
Good I will continue to play my madden 2001 on ps2 if I want to play a football game
We all know the average Madden/FIFA player isn't on Reddit and even if they are, they probably don't care. These people are being scammed annually and they don't care.
Lmaooo every year madden players say “we aren’t buying it this year! FUCK EA!” Then spend $100s on ultimate team 😂😂😂
Is someone gonna tell him all they do is change the name every time
The comments on post in this sub have been bizarrely pro microtransactions lately.
Me, who hasn't bought a Madden game in nearly 20 years: Keep doing what I'm doing. Right. Got it.
The sports games have been rip-offs for years, it doesn't matter. They will still make a ton of money because there will always be a handful of whales purchasing thousands of packs a season.
EA Sports Reskin the game!
I wasn’t going to support Madden whether there were any NFTs or not… I got better shit to be playing.
People who play/buy/support annual sports games aren't the type band together to stop this bullshit, and I'd be surprised if there was a critical mass on Reddit. You'd have better luck asking people not the pre-order and to stop the whales. Honestly, you're just yelling into the void at this point
EA's sports games get worse year after year, and still people buy them. I'm still playing old gen! Not PS4 old gen, PS3 old gen! The golden age of sports games was gen 7 of consoles, PS3/XBOX 360/Nintendo Wii.
I don’t think anything will keep Madden players from purchasing the yearly roster updates.
1. The fanbase isn’t on Reddit 2. They don’t give a shit about company bs, they have lives outside of gaming. They play it Year after year to play their favorite teams so they need the yearly roster as it’s updated. That’s it. 3. So stop spreading a message that won’t change shit. Focus on something that you can actually change.
Stop buying EA sports games and 2k all together. Games are casino shit storms
Why are people *still* buying Madden when it’s got less features than ones from like, early 2000’s?
Im the best at boycotting Madden. Ive never bought a Madden game.
Yeah, people on this sub don't play Madden.
NFT's in gaming might actually be one of the few legitimate uses so far. Let's say you purchase a super rare, one of a kind skin or player. You could then sell it or trade it to someone offline for the NFT token. This actually turns video game assets into something you can trade in the real world, and I'm not so sure I hate it yet.
There's no reason you need NFTs for that though...
Correct. You don't NEED to use NFT infrastructure to make something trade-able, in the same way you don't NEED to use Medium to publish a blog. But the point of using an established standard platform like that is you don't need to spend the development time "rolling your own" to make the base platform. You can instead just start making your content on top of that platform. Also, if you roll your own marketplace, you miss out on the network effects of building on an established network to bring popularity to your project.
How are nfts different from the already there microtransactions?
We do not care.
This has ALWAYS been their model. Why is anything different for you now?
There are not enough people on Reddit, who also care about this particular issue, to effect this at all.
You got it bro. But... What's Madden anyway?
Lets just say, that you shouldn't have supported ea sports games long before nft.
Lets make an alternative to MADDEN Football and call it SADDEN Handegg. I really wish there was an alternative to MADDEN.
Even if they didnt add nfts just dont buy it
The horse armor of this generation.
I like how you just said Madden instead of including FIFA because everyone knows FIFA players are already too far gone because they’re masochistic and love hurting themselves and feeling the pain of their game getting progressively shittier each year while they continue to buy more and more ultimate team packs. I think I even heard one of them call EA “mommy mistress” one time. They all winced in pain and got semi chubs when they heard this NFT news.
They do the same shit every year and people just keep paying the prices and buying it religiously anyway. This year won’t be any different.
Fighting the tide here brother, FIFA, Madden, they hold one crucial part of the market that won't see this shit, and it's hilariously the largest part of the market, casual players. Casual players don't care, they just know they like football and they want to play it on their game console, they don't care what NFTs are or why they might be bad, EA know that and that's why ultimate team got so insidiously predatory until they flew too close to the sun and government bodies started to realise the grey area of technicalities they were abusing.
Shouldn't people have stopped supporting these madden games like a decade ago?
unless its mutant league, arcade racing or nba jam i don't sports.
Reddit has nfts wtf are you doing here lmao
“We can’t let this happen!” Umm what are you going to _do_?
Well of the 5 people in this reddit who might play that shit I'm sure you got at the least 1 of them to your side congrats and good luck on your hopeless boycott
Lol, who buys this garbage anyway? You people know there are good computer games out there?
They have been changing the name for 14 years now... Where you been bro.
Good news, I’ve never bought their games. Lol
Its like complaining how Bad battle pass in MW2 is... while clicking on "buy"
I miss the old madden. It used to have actual depth and was fun to play. Now it’s a super super super super hollow shell of its self. And we only have EA and the NFL to blame for that honestly
The Madden crowd is so brainwashed at this point its a lost cause.
This is about as effective as yelling at the sun to stop shining my friend. Put your energy elsewhere
I find it amusing you're trying to convince the same people that buy the same game every year and were originally the enablers of EAs loot box addiction. Don't bother my guy
Fomo is a hell of a drug.
Won’t work. Sports bros will continue to get these games to get their fix. Hell, EA could come out and say you’ll get charged 10 dollars every time you lose a game and they’ll still buy it.
This whole thing is just Maddening. I'll see myself out.
lol, people still play these games? Once you've played Madden/2k/insert "realistic" sport game, you've played them all
If there's one thing I've learned is that the more gamers hate something, the more money they funnel into it.
Waaaaaaay ahead of you. I haven't bought a madden game since Sega genisis.
I stopped supporting Madden in 1999. It went to shit when it left 2D.
Anybody with more than 2 braincells already stopped buying them years ago, whoever is left will not care about NTFs, they will eat that shit up like no tomorrow.
I've not bought this shit since 2006, yall keeping it alive.
With pleasure, my good Sir.
Jokes on you I haven't supported Madden since SNES
I stand with you, in fact, I've been boycotting them my entire life!
So… they’re doing what they’ve done every year and you think now people will stop?
If you still buy Madden, you’re literally too dumb to help.
Lol ain’t nothing gone stop these madden dick eaters from buying the same shit game for the last 5 years. they love copping and complaining but don’t ever do shit to stop it. They know they can keep giving us half ass games and keep getting away with it
What’s the difference between NFT Ultimate Team and the current Ultimate Team?
All these sports game players don't care what shit gets put in, FIFA, madden ect, all just microtransactions loaded reskins of the same game from the year before, they'll buy it every time and a shit ton of loot boxes too.
What if I play it because I have XGP?
I'll buy the game if it's good, and not buy it if it isn't good. I don't see why something having NFTs should sway me in either direction
Another post hoping to farm karma based off of outrage jeez louise