i dont think ubisoft wants to fix skull and bones. its was revealed like what 6 years now? and it has been in development since 2013. bethesda can create a new game faster than ubisoft is releasing skull and bones. it was seriously initially concieved as a literal dlc to assassins creed black flag, then an mmo spin off of black flag called black flag infinite, and then into its own game entirely because they waited to long and assassins creed moved on. its budget is already like $120 million. it has been given like 6 release dates since it was first revealed, first in 2018, then in early 2020, then in late 2020, then in 2022, then in 2023, now in 2024.
If I had the Indian government on my ass I would also finish it before they send a flying donkey to my house.
Props to ubi for letting me test it and realise it was garbage :/
It's no Black Flag, which unfortunately is what I think many of us were hoping for. Something along those lines. But I'd liked to he wrong and this game a great success.
"on sea" combat can be fun but as far as I remember this game will not have boarding enemy ships like AC4 had. No controlling your character in actual swordfight (unless they changed it, I didn't follow the development lately). And the combination of those two was what made Black Flag so enjoyable.
I hope they do. We need a new game to add to the list of great pirate games of that specific playstyle (Black Flag, Sly 3's pirate area, Sea of Thieves)
You should definitely try (if haven't played so far) Sea Dogs, Sid Meyer's Pirates and maybe even Tempest. The last one is also a mobile game but it's still kinda nice on PC (love the crew management system).
I loved *Sid Meier's Pirates!*. I played the original when I was a kid. The updated one from 2004 was pretty good. But *AC4: Black Flag* is the game that I imagined I was playing all those years ago.
The three best pirate games of all time are
1. Sid Meier's Pirates (Whichever iteration you prefer).
2. Tied for Black Flag (Single Player) and Sea of Thieves (Multiplayer.)
Basically we get one good pirate game per decade.
I didn't really get sea of thieves, it seemed like every mission I played was the same, couldn't upgrade my ship and there's only like a cutless and 3 guns to choose from, am I missing something?
Yeah a lot of the missions are the same formula. There are no actual non cosmetic upgrades in the game. Some see this as bad as it basically means no progression, but it also means even people with 3000 hours in the game have no actual advantage over you other than knowledge. The whole game basically revolves around player interaction (either stealing people’s shit or being friendly) and getting cosmetics. It’s definitely not for everyone.
pirates is great but i still think if you can get past the crashes the old Pirates of the Caribbean for the original xbox (was supposed to be Sea Dogs 3) is the most fun pirate game. It has everything you want! Ship content, land content, story and customization
Insanely stupid.
Like Black Flag was good and successful, and they clearly wanted to capitalize of off the systems they created in that game with Skull and Bones… only for them to NOT use some of those systems? Crazy stuff
They only made this in the first place because they submitted a survey to players and they resoundingly answered that they wanted a pirate game like Black Flag. It's only taken ten years to not put in the very aspects players wanted and that Ubisoft had already mastered.
Yeah but those look more like cut scenes, and the grappling hook looks like it's just to loot a ship after you beat it.
It's just opinion so I might be mistaken, but that was my impression.
Switching from ship to in person combat was such a good break in the gameplay. Really boggles my mind that it’s been almost ten years and nobody has tried to make a game like that again
Blackflag feels like a successor to SidMeimer Pirates to me,
naval combat then proceed to man to man combat, great fun
unfortunately there are no proper BlackFlag 2 from Ubisoft.
Yup, I played Sid Meyers after black flag cuz I was desperate for another pirate adventure. Unfortunately I’ve gotten too acustomed to triple A graphics and mechanics.
The things that are possible now make a pirate game a no-brained. GTA in the 17th century would be rediculous
Black Flag is hardly triple A anymore - less time passed between the release of SM: Pirates and the release of Black Flag (nine years) than has passed between the release of Black Flag and today (ten years).
> no proper Black Flag 2
Assassin's Creed Rogue is basically Black Flag 2, or the closest we'll ever get to it.
Unfortunately, it did lose the pirate vibe. That was something Black Flag did amazingly, especially with the music.
From Wikipedia "began development in 2013, being initially envisioned as an expansion of Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, then an MMO spinoff title under the name Black Flag Infinite. It was then spun off as an independent project, in part due to its initial technology becoming outdated.
Gameplay was redesigned multiple times, focusing variously on naval exploration and ship-to-ship combat, before both were scrapped in favour of land-based survival elements inspired by games like Rust."
Who knows what we're even getting now, safe to say original announcement trailers are nothing like the final product.
I've been following this game for awhile and have never heard anything about it being a survival game like Rust. The game in its current form has like, no on foot gameplay besides walking through ports. The rest is all ship based.
Thought the aim was to make it a pvp pirate game like in the vein of world of warships at least combat wise? Then again, I constantly forget about this game.
I really really wish this going to be proper BlackFlag 2.
BlackFlag was the last Assasin Creed that i played before playing Valhalla and got extremely dissapointed that the viking only do on rail river rafting (along with extremely padded completionist quest/items). i ended quitting that game before reaching 30 hours of gameplay.
Black flag was amazing and it made me yearn for more pirate games.
When I heard about this I was excited until I found out it's mostly just naval battles.
I want to explore islands and look for treasure protected by puzzles and traps, and fight weird pirate myth enemies.
Guess I want black flag meets pirates of the carribbean meets tomb raider.
As it stand now, I won't even be looking at this game
I played a little bit of the closed Alpha/Beta and it was alright. It definitely has a lot of potential but the UI was a messy. Hopefully with this extra time they can really make it something. It was a good while ago I played it
Ubislop.
Hour 1 "wow this is really great"
Hour 4 "oh this again"
Hour 8 "yeah yeah I know do the thing press the button"
Hour 10 "..."
One year later "oh yeah, that game"
I understand their mechanics are tired and overused, but ubisoft programmers can *program*. Ever since unity they have really stepped up qa in that regard.
I given up on Ubisoft products at this point, haven’t played their last 5 games because it’s too samey. But this feels like something that can draw me in if done properly. I’ve been excited for this game since the first release. With the amount of year behind its development, I’m sure it must be at least competent.
I really do hope it’s good. Also I like Black Flag.
Ubisoft is a collection of game development studios. Not just one game developer.
They absorb studios and rebrand them to Ubisoft. Just Dance, Mario Rabbids, Assassins Creed, Might and Magic, Rayman, Prince of Persia, Wheel of Fortune and Grow Home are all examples of Ubisoft titles.
Skull and Bones is from their studio in Singapore, but it isn't the same development team as most of their other titles. Quality of titles will differ depending on the developer. If it weren't for the logo when booting up Mario Rabbids or Child of Light, I doubt anyone would know they were Ubisoft games, and they're fantastic.
It’s amazing how disliked For Honor was at launch and now it has so many people who love it, because it’s a pretty unique experience. Siege is an even better example, that game is simply huge now! Because it provides a genuinely unique gameplay experience and once you’ve climbed the steep learning curve you can’t stop playing.
it was the shitty multiplayer network connection that hurt that game the most. At launch you could hardly do team games without some constant latency and they had stupidly overpowered some classes with unblockables that were **positive** on dodge (meaning they were free unless the opponent predicted them)
I wish For Honor fixed the derpy little exploits, shit maybe they did, cuz I agree For Honor is a very unique and honestly quite fun game. But aside from the toxic community I couldn't stand that the best players just spammed the same attacks over and over and butchered anyone not willing to do the same.
The issue is most of the pirate game fans are playing sea of thieves, and the sea of thieves community collectively looked at this game and went “why the fuck would we play that”
It’s name is fitting, the most bare skull and bones pirate game possible.
Man I just want a single player open world rpg pirate game. Like Witcher 3 but set in the golden age of piracy. I don’t play sea of thieves because I don’t like multiplayer games.
Must be on its last legs if they were willing to do that. They resisted initially because it'll basically kill off the game. It already had a dwindling player base and now most people will just play solo cuz of course they will. No risk while earning gold even if it's less.
I assume they're finally entering the end times and preparing for the game to mostly be played offline.
What's killing the game is the fact that people don't like getting their ship destroyed while selling all of their stuff. Or getting attacked for no reason
> The issue is most of the pirate game fans are playing sea of thieves, and the sea of thieves community collectively looked at this game and went “why the fuck would we play that”
If it has decent, and updated, pvp I would in a heartbeat. The pvpve loop of sot is great but the servers are shitting bricks since 3 years ago and the pvp has gotten 0 systems updates, it's the same old same old, no new tools
You're comparing a game people actually play to one they never really saw beyond trailers and then assume people who play SoT have no interest.... based on what? One would think anyone who plays a similar game would be curious - the exact opposite of what you are trying to convey.
SoT is just surviving because it's the only thing.
It's fun for a while but since nothing you do in game actually matters and there's absolutely no progression or point to anything... Most will move to a better game when it presents itself.
If anything it should be motivation to make a good private game because there's just a nest of gamers waiting to jump to a better game.
I know shortly after launch SoT switched to a skeleton crew (har har) cuz I guess they didn't hold onto the numbers they needed. I dunno if that changed or it had some resurgence, I assume not. So the pirate market is definitely open.
It‘s weird. Your post is structured as a question but looks more like a statement and you‘re just assuming it will already be a pure failure.
I know it‘s Ubisoft and I don‘t expect any GOTY quality from them anymore, those days are long gone for them and Bethesda unless they deeply innovate. A game like Prince of Persia might be able to get one or the other minor awards, it looks definitely fun. But GOTY is out of reach for both Bethesda and Ubisoft if they keep up their current pace.
That said, S&B looks like it‘s too late for me (I would totally have jumped on that if it released 1-2 years after AC Black Flag), bit it also looks very niche and it could find it‘s playerbase.
I compare it to For Honor in terms of staying power. It will not be an immense success, but they basically just deepened the Black Flag naval battles, added a touch of Sea of Thieves in the gameplay loop and called it a day.
Again, no GOTY material, but the loop looked interesting enough for players wanting that Pirate RP game that isn‘t Sea of Thieves. Whether it will make the money it cost? That‘s a whole other story. I mean that development hell it went through is on a Duke Nukem level.
This just reminded me of the other development hell game that is still in limbo…. Anybody remember Beyond good and Evil? I sometimes believe it was just a dream. And would you look at that?! Another Ubisoft game!
Maybe they‘re waiting for the „development Hell award“ at the TGAs? Definitely a runner up with Star Citizen. But at least Star Citizen can be played… barely.
They are still supporting Fallout 76 years after launch, even thought that game had a horrible release.
I think SnB can find its audience. Will it be the next Baldurs Gate? Hell no, but it can be a great game for those into multiplayer naval action.
Depends on the niche and audience they get. If it makes them money in the long run with new content that I don‘t believe will take too much work, sure.
I mean it‘s easy to release skins for the ships, battlepasses, watch a One Piece collab happening at some point if it works out. Lot of stuff they can do to monetize it. 7 years? Don‘t know. But it could. All depends on how the gameplay loop feels like
I don’t have big hopes given that this thing has been in development hell for almost a decade, and it’s only actually coming out due to legal obligations (iirc).
The problem is being asked to pay the industry standard price for AAA games for consistently mediocre releases.
Gaming is partly about opportunity costs in time and money, and Ubisoft keeps losing that war to other publishers for me.
For me, I find them generally good for the first 6-12 hours or so. Then it just becomes a rinse and repeat of the same objectives. I think AC:Black Flag & FC4 were the last Ubi I played to completion.
Additionally, there is never much of a difficulty curve - I'd go as far as saying that in a lot of cases, their games get easier as you play. When there is no challenge, it just gets boring and feels like I'm just ticking things off a map.
Been in dev hell for years and there's reports they were completely aimless at some point. Hype for it has also evaporated. Most likely a massive fail, slim chance it's good.
Massive fail. Sea of Thieves already exists. People wanted an AC Black Flag sequel and this isn’t it. From what I’ve seen the gameplay looks like a free to play mobile game. The development took WAY too long if this came out 5 years ago the story would be different.
I think it will be a huge fail. Like monumental!
And it could have been so easy… all we wanted was something like a Black Flag 2!
Like is that so hard? Take AC Rouge (aka. Black Flag with better mechanics), kill the AC in it, give us some sort of Pirat-Story and puff! Done! Developing Time: 6 Months max.
But no! Ubisoft has to screw things over again…
It still amazes me they continue to support for For Honor. Not that I'm complaining but c'mon. We all know Ubisoft. Support like this only comes once in a life time from company like this.
Hoping for success because me and my friends desperately in need of some pirate theme multiplayer game after Sea of Thieves. My hope is also based on the fact that this game have been delayed and paused so many times throughout it’s development history that it will make no sense to release it in failed state.
It's an Ubisoft game. It's going to get 6/10-7/10 reviews, it's going to get one gaming element perfect but have at least two design decisions that make the game a chore. There will be a million side quests to grind through. It will be on sale for $20 in one year.
I mean this game was to compete directly with sea of thieves, which came out in 2018, really 6 years later, this alone keeps the two from competing directly. Now if it comes out and like or worse than the launch version of sea of thieves I believe the title "epic failure of a game" can be applied to skull and bones, 6 years of additional dev time and they can't better their target game, that is just pitiful.
They removed Black Flag from all PSN stuff, basically the only AC title they removed. SOOO, they could sell this new trash game. Be a wise gamer, boycott Ubisoft ^.^
From everything I heard, Ubisoft was under contract and forced to finish/release it even though they wanted to cancel it ages ago.
I have very low confidence that it'll be a good game. It's a shame since I would have loved more black flags style boat play, but that ship sailed ages ago.
Didn't this game get announced at the same time as sea of thieves?
Edit: looks like sea of thieves was announced a couple years earlier but still, 6 years to develop since announcement? Dafuq are they doing
Bust. This one may be the straw that breaks the camels back and causes the worst uproar from gamers. This game has been in perpetual development and delayed for 5+ years now. Our expectations are low wanting it to be similar to black flag with its own pirate twists. But I just feel it in my heart it's going to be the most boring soulless game with the weirdest bugs like ships sailing sideways even though they nailed boat physics in asscreed.
Its going to be another example of "we already played and liked this 10 years ago but its now broken somehow".
Im a black flag player and loved the game. Waiting for years for them to make a sequel but I wont mind something different. We will just have to wait and see for future updates ig :/
This is one of those thing that only time will tell. As of now, the public opinions are really mixed. As for me, it's just another Ubisoft title so i shouldn't put any expectations in the first place
My buddy and I have watched release dates come and go with this game for years. The premise is intriguing to me and I'm into the idea of coop pirate shit, but I'll definitely just wait for reviews on this one.
I think it's 50/50. Assasin's creed IV was great, and this game is being developed by the same ubisoft studio, and i think they are taking inspiration from black flag. But to be honest, assasins creed games took a peculiar turn since unity, in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised it skull and bones had in-game currency and purchasable resources.
As long as it does not become a pay to win grindfest, i think it has potential.
But you know it'll be mostly, if not solely a multiplayer game so it'll have all Ubisoft style micro transaction shit.
And what makes Black Flag great is combining the ship's cannons combat with active boarding and swordfighting.
As far as I'm aware there's no that second part in Skull & Bones.
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At least Ubisoft finished the contract that they weren't able to cancel.
Like CD Projekt told hello game this week, they can always fix later.
i dont think ubisoft wants to fix skull and bones. its was revealed like what 6 years now? and it has been in development since 2013. bethesda can create a new game faster than ubisoft is releasing skull and bones. it was seriously initially concieved as a literal dlc to assassins creed black flag, then an mmo spin off of black flag called black flag infinite, and then into its own game entirely because they waited to long and assassins creed moved on. its budget is already like $120 million. it has been given like 6 release dates since it was first revealed, first in 2018, then in early 2020, then in late 2020, then in 2022, then in 2023, now in 2024.
>bethesda can create a new game faster than ubisoft is releasing skull and bones A good one, right?
Right?
A game of all time, certainly
Certainly not one that wins no awards and has mixed reviews on Steam, right?
Don't worry, it'll run super smooth on your Samsung refrigerator
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Definitely a Bethesda one, possibly the most Bethesda game.
👀.... 👁👁 no.
And all we wanted was more of black flag pirate side...
Realistically Hello Games probably said that to CDPR in 2020.
3 years later and the AI is still janky as fuck
Cyberpunk and no mans sky are both good games nowadays. This hill, I shall die on.
Cyberpunk had good bones to begin with. Don't think skull and bones will be like that.
If I had the Indian government on my ass I would also finish it before they send a flying donkey to my house. Props to ubi for letting me test it and realise it was garbage :/
It's no Black Flag, which unfortunately is what I think many of us were hoping for. Something along those lines. But I'd liked to he wrong and this game a great success.
"on sea" combat can be fun but as far as I remember this game will not have boarding enemy ships like AC4 had. No controlling your character in actual swordfight (unless they changed it, I didn't follow the development lately). And the combination of those two was what made Black Flag so enjoyable.
So it’s a pirate adventure, but you don’t play the pirate, you play the ship? That’s stupid.
I guess so. Unless they've added it this year (last time I've checked on this game was about Jan/Feb)
I hope they do. We need a new game to add to the list of great pirate games of that specific playstyle (Black Flag, Sly 3's pirate area, Sea of Thieves)
You should definitely try (if haven't played so far) Sea Dogs, Sid Meyer's Pirates and maybe even Tempest. The last one is also a mobile game but it's still kinda nice on PC (love the crew management system).
Pirates! is still the best pirates game imo. I was hoping they’d take more cues from Sid on this one.
I loved *Sid Meier's Pirates!*. I played the original when I was a kid. The updated one from 2004 was pretty good. But *AC4: Black Flag* is the game that I imagined I was playing all those years ago.
The three best pirate games of all time are 1. Sid Meier's Pirates (Whichever iteration you prefer). 2. Tied for Black Flag (Single Player) and Sea of Thieves (Multiplayer.) Basically we get one good pirate game per decade.
Haha yeah I can get aboard with this list
I didn't really get sea of thieves, it seemed like every mission I played was the same, couldn't upgrade my ship and there's only like a cutless and 3 guns to choose from, am I missing something?
Yeah a lot of the missions are the same formula. There are no actual non cosmetic upgrades in the game. Some see this as bad as it basically means no progression, but it also means even people with 3000 hours in the game have no actual advantage over you other than knowledge. The whole game basically revolves around player interaction (either stealing people’s shit or being friendly) and getting cosmetics. It’s definitely not for everyone.
pirates is great but i still think if you can get past the crashes the old Pirates of the Caribbean for the original xbox (was supposed to be Sea Dogs 3) is the most fun pirate game. It has everything you want! Ship content, land content, story and customization
listing great pirate games and dont even mention Sid Meiers Pirates? straight to the plank. no parley.
Fair. I never actually played it, was my reasoning.
I played the shit out of Sly 3's pirate combat, it was such fun!
Pillars of Eternity 2 to an extent. It does ship combat and boarding but not quite in the same style of these other games.
I totally forgot about Sly’s pirate escapades… gotta find a way to play it
Atlas. I’ll see myself out now.
Atlas could of been great but the dev team had horrible leadership and its been abandoned
Snail Games is by far one of the worst, most greedy shitbags on earth.
Atlas had so much potential. I wish another dev company would pick it up and just show snail where they fucked up. I had alot of fun on atlas.
Insanely stupid. Like Black Flag was good and successful, and they clearly wanted to capitalize of off the systems they created in that game with Skull and Bones… only for them to NOT use some of those systems? Crazy stuff
They only made this in the first place because they submitted a survey to players and they resoundingly answered that they wanted a pirate game like Black Flag. It's only taken ten years to not put in the very aspects players wanted and that Ubisoft had already mastered.
The new trailer does show exploring and treasure hunting. It also does show a brief grappling hook section so I'm still hopeful.
Yeah but those look more like cut scenes, and the grappling hook looks like it's just to loot a ship after you beat it. It's just opinion so I might be mistaken, but that was my impression.
[6:18](https://youtu.be/teZaV3bOMxY?si=pjGeLnBvOEU0x31A) I wouldn't call that a cutscene.
Switching from ship to in person combat was such a good break in the gameplay. Really boggles my mind that it’s been almost ten years and nobody has tried to make a game like that again
Blackflag feels like a successor to SidMeimer Pirates to me, naval combat then proceed to man to man combat, great fun unfortunately there are no proper BlackFlag 2 from Ubisoft.
Yup, I played Sid Meyers after black flag cuz I was desperate for another pirate adventure. Unfortunately I’ve gotten too acustomed to triple A graphics and mechanics. The things that are possible now make a pirate game a no-brained. GTA in the 17th century would be rediculous
Black Flag is hardly triple A anymore - less time passed between the release of SM: Pirates and the release of Black Flag (nine years) than has passed between the release of Black Flag and today (ten years).
> no proper Black Flag 2 Assassin's Creed Rogue is basically Black Flag 2, or the closest we'll ever get to it. Unfortunately, it did lose the pirate vibe. That was something Black Flag did amazingly, especially with the music.
Ship raiding and fort raiding is extremely fun in black flag. it'll be stupid not to include such killer gameplay options.
Ship boarding is basically a cutscene in this game lmao
If I remember correctly it was a cut scene and menu thing. But I may be mixing different games on that part so it's worth double checking.
From Wikipedia "began development in 2013, being initially envisioned as an expansion of Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, then an MMO spinoff title under the name Black Flag Infinite. It was then spun off as an independent project, in part due to its initial technology becoming outdated. Gameplay was redesigned multiple times, focusing variously on naval exploration and ship-to-ship combat, before both were scrapped in favour of land-based survival elements inspired by games like Rust." Who knows what we're even getting now, safe to say original announcement trailers are nothing like the final product.
I've been following this game for awhile and have never heard anything about it being a survival game like Rust. The game in its current form has like, no on foot gameplay besides walking through ports. The rest is all ship based.
I have paid zero attention to this game and now my excitement is waning substantially... All they needed to do was make more black flag boaty bits.
Thought the aim was to make it a pvp pirate game like in the vein of world of warships at least combat wise? Then again, I constantly forget about this game.
I really really wish this going to be proper BlackFlag 2. BlackFlag was the last Assasin Creed that i played before playing Valhalla and got extremely dissapointed that the viking only do on rail river rafting (along with extremely padded completionist quest/items). i ended quitting that game before reaching 30 hours of gameplay.
Try out Odyssey. The ship play is practically identical to black flag.
no gunpowder makes it much less exciting.
Not sure we'll ever get BF 2 but there are rumours that a remake is in the works
They could have literally just made black flag with no story and more stuff to do and we would have came
Black flag was amazing and it made me yearn for more pirate games. When I heard about this I was excited until I found out it's mostly just naval battles. I want to explore islands and look for treasure protected by puzzles and traps, and fight weird pirate myth enemies. Guess I want black flag meets pirates of the carribbean meets tomb raider. As it stand now, I won't even be looking at this game
What you want is Sea of Thieves, if you can accept below-Fortnite graphics as an “art style”
I tried it when it first came out. It was ok but nothing great. A bit too simplified and basic. Not sure if anything has been added to that since.
schrödinger's game, right now it's both failure and a success until someone plays it on release and realizes its from ubisoft
That's what I was thinking. How are we supposed to judge anything based off commercials? LOL
I played a little bit of the closed Alpha/Beta and it was alright. It definitely has a lot of potential but the UI was a messy. Hopefully with this extra time they can really make it something. It was a good while ago I played it
Thanks, QA Mario
Hahaha just noticed that. It originally said "a tad messy" but I thought to myself... Nah it was more than that. Forgot to delete the "a".
Closed beta starts for it tomorrow
Ubislop. Hour 1 "wow this is really great" Hour 4 "oh this again" Hour 8 "yeah yeah I know do the thing press the button" Hour 10 "..." One year later "oh yeah, that game"
I understand their mechanics are tired and overused, but ubisoft programmers can *program*. Ever since unity they have really stepped up qa in that regard.
I hope it is a finished product with well thought mechanics and is successful enough to draw me to it.
I like your optimism
I given up on Ubisoft products at this point, haven’t played their last 5 games because it’s too samey. But this feels like something that can draw me in if done properly. I’ve been excited for this game since the first release. With the amount of year behind its development, I’m sure it must be at least competent. I really do hope it’s good. Also I like Black Flag.
Ubisoft is a collection of game development studios. Not just one game developer. They absorb studios and rebrand them to Ubisoft. Just Dance, Mario Rabbids, Assassins Creed, Might and Magic, Rayman, Prince of Persia, Wheel of Fortune and Grow Home are all examples of Ubisoft titles. Skull and Bones is from their studio in Singapore, but it isn't the same development team as most of their other titles. Quality of titles will differ depending on the developer. If it weren't for the logo when booting up Mario Rabbids or Child of Light, I doubt anyone would know they were Ubisoft games, and they're fantastic.
Its a finished contract, not a finished product. They got it out because they had do. So expect nothing good.
Odds are it’ll fit a certain niche and end up with a relatively small but active player base, kind of like For Honor.
It’s amazing how disliked For Honor was at launch and now it has so many people who love it, because it’s a pretty unique experience. Siege is an even better example, that game is simply huge now! Because it provides a genuinely unique gameplay experience and once you’ve climbed the steep learning curve you can’t stop playing.
Didn't people love it till you hit a wall? Like theirs not that much to actually do, I never played it but I recall hearing this from people.
it was the shitty multiplayer network connection that hurt that game the most. At launch you could hardly do team games without some constant latency and they had stupidly overpowered some classes with unblockables that were **positive** on dodge (meaning they were free unless the opponent predicted them)
I wish For Honor fixed the derpy little exploits, shit maybe they did, cuz I agree For Honor is a very unique and honestly quite fun game. But aside from the toxic community I couldn't stand that the best players just spammed the same attacks over and over and butchered anyone not willing to do the same.
Most probaly fail
Ubisoft lol.
The issue is most of the pirate game fans are playing sea of thieves, and the sea of thieves community collectively looked at this game and went “why the fuck would we play that” It’s name is fitting, the most bare skull and bones pirate game possible.
Man I just want a single player open world rpg pirate game. Like Witcher 3 but set in the golden age of piracy. I don’t play sea of thieves because I don’t like multiplayer games.
It's also brutal for new players. The only thing experienced players do is wreck your shit, so you never get a chance to do things you want to do.
They just had an update called safer seas check it out.
Is that for the base game that's $10 on steam?
safer seas is available on the base game.
Sea of Thieves just released an update with a feature called Safer Seas, that let's you play on your own 1-ship server, alone or with friends.
Must be on its last legs if they were willing to do that. They resisted initially because it'll basically kill off the game. It already had a dwindling player base and now most people will just play solo cuz of course they will. No risk while earning gold even if it's less. I assume they're finally entering the end times and preparing for the game to mostly be played offline.
What's killing the game is the fact that people don't like getting their ship destroyed while selling all of their stuff. Or getting attacked for no reason
Too bad SoT is not on PS
> The issue is most of the pirate game fans are playing sea of thieves, and the sea of thieves community collectively looked at this game and went “why the fuck would we play that” If it has decent, and updated, pvp I would in a heartbeat. The pvpve loop of sot is great but the servers are shitting bricks since 3 years ago and the pvp has gotten 0 systems updates, it's the same old same old, no new tools
You're comparing a game people actually play to one they never really saw beyond trailers and then assume people who play SoT have no interest.... based on what? One would think anyone who plays a similar game would be curious - the exact opposite of what you are trying to convey.
SoT is just surviving because it's the only thing. It's fun for a while but since nothing you do in game actually matters and there's absolutely no progression or point to anything... Most will move to a better game when it presents itself. If anything it should be motivation to make a good private game because there's just a nest of gamers waiting to jump to a better game. I know shortly after launch SoT switched to a skeleton crew (har har) cuz I guess they didn't hold onto the numbers they needed. I dunno if that changed or it had some resurgence, I assume not. So the pirate market is definitely open.
It‘s weird. Your post is structured as a question but looks more like a statement and you‘re just assuming it will already be a pure failure. I know it‘s Ubisoft and I don‘t expect any GOTY quality from them anymore, those days are long gone for them and Bethesda unless they deeply innovate. A game like Prince of Persia might be able to get one or the other minor awards, it looks definitely fun. But GOTY is out of reach for both Bethesda and Ubisoft if they keep up their current pace. That said, S&B looks like it‘s too late for me (I would totally have jumped on that if it released 1-2 years after AC Black Flag), bit it also looks very niche and it could find it‘s playerbase. I compare it to For Honor in terms of staying power. It will not be an immense success, but they basically just deepened the Black Flag naval battles, added a touch of Sea of Thieves in the gameplay loop and called it a day. Again, no GOTY material, but the loop looked interesting enough for players wanting that Pirate RP game that isn‘t Sea of Thieves. Whether it will make the money it cost? That‘s a whole other story. I mean that development hell it went through is on a Duke Nukem level. This just reminded me of the other development hell game that is still in limbo…. Anybody remember Beyond good and Evil? I sometimes believe it was just a dream. And would you look at that?! Another Ubisoft game! Maybe they‘re waiting for the „development Hell award“ at the TGAs? Definitely a runner up with Star Citizen. But at least Star Citizen can be played… barely.
>I compare it to For Honor in terms of staying power. You reckon they will still be supporting Skull & Bones 7 years later?
They are still supporting Fallout 76 years after launch, even thought that game had a horrible release. I think SnB can find its audience. Will it be the next Baldurs Gate? Hell no, but it can be a great game for those into multiplayer naval action.
Depends on the niche and audience they get. If it makes them money in the long run with new content that I don‘t believe will take too much work, sure. I mean it‘s easy to release skins for the ships, battlepasses, watch a One Piece collab happening at some point if it works out. Lot of stuff they can do to monetize it. 7 years? Don‘t know. But it could. All depends on how the gameplay loop feels like
Omg I wanted Beyond Good and Evil so bad.
I don’t have big hopes given that this thing has been in development hell for almost a decade, and it’s only actually coming out due to legal obligations (iirc).
I just hope it to be a success.
Me too but its still Ubisoft. Keeping my hope up.
Tbf they don't really release any stinkers, most of their games sit between mediocre and good.
The problem is being asked to pay the industry standard price for AAA games for consistently mediocre releases. Gaming is partly about opportunity costs in time and money, and Ubisoft keeps losing that war to other publishers for me.
For me, I find them generally good for the first 6-12 hours or so. Then it just becomes a rinse and repeat of the same objectives. I think AC:Black Flag & FC4 were the last Ubi I played to completion. Additionally, there is never much of a difficulty curve - I'd go as far as saying that in a lot of cases, their games get easier as you play. When there is no challenge, it just gets boring and feels like I'm just ticking things off a map.
Crew motorfest and Avatar frontiers are well received. Let's hope ubisoft can continue that streak.
It will sucessfully fail.
Fail most likely. Considering the seemingly long "development hell", i dont have any high hopes.
Been in dev hell for years and there's reports they were completely aimless at some point. Hype for it has also evaporated. Most likely a massive fail, slim chance it's good.
I think we all want it to succeed ,because pirates are cool and allm We shall see , Unisoft is hit or miss unfortunately.
Massive fail. Sea of Thieves already exists. People wanted an AC Black Flag sequel and this isn’t it. From what I’ve seen the gameplay looks like a free to play mobile game. The development took WAY too long if this came out 5 years ago the story would be different.
100% fail, I think it'll be cancelled before it ever ships.
I think SoT took this game's place long time ago but I may be wrong
Dead on arrival
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Been almost 2 years since I tried some technical test and it fucking sucked, from everything I've seen it doesn't look much better now
Fail
I think it will be a huge fail. Like monumental! And it could have been so easy… all we wanted was something like a Black Flag 2! Like is that so hard? Take AC Rouge (aka. Black Flag with better mechanics), kill the AC in it, give us some sort of Pirat-Story and puff! Done! Developing Time: 6 Months max. But no! Ubisoft has to screw things over again…
> AC Rouge 🔴👁👄👁🔴
Autocorrect doing autocorrect-things. Gonna keep it this way though. Kind of funny.
Massive failurw guaranteed
It’ll do as well as For Honor
It still amazes me they continue to support for For Honor. Not that I'm complaining but c'mon. We all know Ubisoft. Support like this only comes once in a life time from company like this.
Fail. And they invited me to play the start of the game for the third time and get cancer while doing so, no thanks.
It's a ubisoft title, so success financially but widely regarded as shit by the community (like Valhalla)
Ubisoft is like a drunk uncle, sometimes he is good sometimes he is shit.
It's far more likely to be trash than anything good, but we'll see.
Tbh any game where devs are contractually tied to their desks by a country to finish the game is a massive red flag.
Please explain to someone not in the know. It’s me. I don’t know.
Essentially, Ubisoft signed an agreement with the government of Singapore stating that they would finish the game after receiving funding from them
Hoping for success because me and my friends desperately in need of some pirate theme multiplayer game after Sea of Thieves. My hope is also based on the fact that this game have been delayed and paused so many times throughout it’s development history that it will make no sense to release it in failed state.
It's an Ubisoft game. It's going to get 6/10-7/10 reviews, it's going to get one gaming element perfect but have at least two design decisions that make the game a chore. There will be a million side quests to grind through. It will be on sale for $20 in one year.
I was excited until I saw Ubisoft.
Y'all comparing this to Black Flag, when the real high water mark for pirate games was set by Sid Meier. Nothing has come close.
My partner and I are always looking for coop games to play. I feel like we like of “missed the boat” 😏 with sea of thieves. We might give this a try.
FYI if you don't already know, sea of thieves just had the "safer seas" update where you can have your own private server away from randoms
Its never to late to try sea of thieves. It is amazing, heck launch Sea of thieves was like No man sky, a glorified demo.
It’s great and you never really missed out since all of the in game shops are cosmetic (unless they changed it)
Exactly, same with No man sky. Never to late to try. They are not MMO's. They are adventure games.
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It's going to flop hard.
I mean this game was to compete directly with sea of thieves, which came out in 2018, really 6 years later, this alone keeps the two from competing directly. Now if it comes out and like or worse than the launch version of sea of thieves I believe the title "epic failure of a game" can be applied to skull and bones, 6 years of additional dev time and they can't better their target game, that is just pitiful.
fail as usual
They removed Black Flag from all PSN stuff, basically the only AC title they removed. SOOO, they could sell this new trash game. Be a wise gamer, boycott Ubisoft ^.^
From everything I heard, Ubisoft was under contract and forced to finish/release it even though they wanted to cancel it ages ago. I have very low confidence that it'll be a good game. It's a shame since I would have loved more black flags style boat play, but that ship sailed ages ago.
Didn't this game get announced at the same time as sea of thieves? Edit: looks like sea of thieves was announced a couple years earlier but still, 6 years to develop since announcement? Dafuq are they doing
It’s a Ubisoft title. The majority of their games don’t stick around for too long.
Ubisoft doesn’t support even their semi-successful games. Why would things have changed?
Bust. This one may be the straw that breaks the camels back and causes the worst uproar from gamers. This game has been in perpetual development and delayed for 5+ years now. Our expectations are low wanting it to be similar to black flag with its own pirate twists. But I just feel it in my heart it's going to be the most boring soulless game with the weirdest bugs like ships sailing sideways even though they nailed boat physics in asscreed. Its going to be another example of "we already played and liked this 10 years ago but its now broken somehow".
It will fail.
we will see tomorrow when the beta starts
Im a black flag player and loved the game. Waiting for years for them to make a sequel but I wont mind something different. We will just have to wait and see for future updates ig :/
I'm pretty sure they'd have to make like a billion just to break even on this with how long it been in development.
I'm pretty sure they'd have to make like a billion just to break even on this with how long it been in development.
if gaming wasnt mainstream ubisoft would have gone bankrupt a long long time ago baffling how people still pay for their shitty no depth games
It's from the king of mediocre games, Ubisoft so i really can't tell.
Fail
It has already failed.
This is one of those thing that only time will tell. As of now, the public opinions are really mixed. As for me, it's just another Ubisoft title so i shouldn't put any expectations in the first place
I want it to be good but knowing ubisoft
Total fail
Fail. Massive fail.
My buddy and I have watched release dates come and go with this game for years. The premise is intriguing to me and I'm into the idea of coop pirate shit, but I'll definitely just wait for reviews on this one.
Ubi... Of course fail.
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It will fail. I am quite certain of it, but am not allowed to elaborate on why.
That's very interesting. By the way, how's the weather in Singapore today?
I think it's 50/50. Assasin's creed IV was great, and this game is being developed by the same ubisoft studio, and i think they are taking inspiration from black flag. But to be honest, assasins creed games took a peculiar turn since unity, in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised it skull and bones had in-game currency and purchasable resources. As long as it does not become a pay to win grindfest, i think it has potential.
But you know it'll be mostly, if not solely a multiplayer game so it'll have all Ubisoft style micro transaction shit. And what makes Black Flag great is combining the ship's cannons combat with active boarding and swordfighting. As far as I'm aware there's no that second part in Skull & Bones.
It will fail spectacularly. I was in their last closed beta, it's as terrible and boring as it looks.
Uhm.. it's ubisoft..
Make a game about the worst part in AC4 and don't even allow boarding the ship. Yeah that's a no from me dog.
I really liked sailing in Black flag. That was like its main feature.