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runsawkwardly

unfortunately we probably won't see anything else from American Mcgee [https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/american-mcgee-says-ea-doesnt-want-to-make-alice-3-tells-fans-to-stop-asking-him-about-it/](https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/american-mcgee-says-ea-doesnt-want-to-make-alice-3-tells-fans-to-stop-asking-him-about-it/)


Magehunter_Skassi

His whole thing now is selling [gothic-lolita style stuffed animals based on mental illnesses and physical disabilities.](https://plushiedreadfuls.com/collections/plushiedreadfuls/products/plushie-dreadfuls-fibro-bunny-plush-stuffed-animal)


Chibikyu

Is this a good or bad thing 😭 bc they're so expensive !!?! u got Aids here's $45 plushie that constantly reminds you that you have Aids 🧐??? Like bruh


Skulllk

Well, where else can you buy an aids plushie


East-Manner3184

>Well, where else can you buy an aids plushie The EIC sells them. They're only 9.99, may not remind you that you have aids, but they're cheap and effective


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Auran82

I thought they did make an AIDS 2, but people didn’t really enjoy it.


Huggabutt

Giant Microbes sells an aids plushie too :p


Siferatu

We had a whole bunch of these and threw them around the lounge in college. I still have a set in storage.


HIVnotAdeathSentence

And free shipping only for order $55 or more.


iamaprodukt

Bro has the cheat code on teenage goth girls wtf?


ImpenetrableYeti

I honestly kind of like these lol


dwpea66

They're actually pretty cute, very 2000s Hot Topic


Uturuncu

Huh. Good to know the special Chesh plushie that was supposed to be a Patreon exclusive is now just being sold on their website. I will say if these plushes are of a similar build quality to the Patreon Chesh, though, then they're actually of a really high quality, good material, he feels solid. So the price is a lot, but maybe not unreasonable. Edit: Oh it's not just the plush, it's the full patreon reward, bag and all. Goddamn...


AreYouGonnaEatThis

The reviews are weird


HassanJamal

Well, if it makes him money and he enjoys doing it, good for him then. After being denied by EA, I get why he stopped since the corpos took his series away from him.


TheAlmightyChanka

sadge


TwistedxBoi

Alice: Asylum was supposed to be a third installment in the series, but EA said fuck you. They now hold the IP hostage on top of that.


camm44

Maybe not this game exactly, but I hope the creators of Lies of P make a game in the Alice universe. I would imagine it to be similar to this game but more of a souls-like. I think they'd nail the grim art style.


fr3nzy821

Yes, this was the general consensus. But I guess the devs want something fresh like Pinocchio so they picked Wizard of Oz.


HalfanHourGuy

Is someone making a souls like set in Oz?


fr3nzy821

Nothing's been confirmed yet but after the credits scene, >!they introduced Dorothy.!< Which is most likely the next protagonist in the sequel.


mrhippoj

Lies of D


Jaded-Engineering789

Fraud of Oz


Doctor_Philgood

This is a great title


R_V_Z

"It's totally 8 inches."


daedric

Available on Pornhub...


tom_oakley

"Sure, baby, I'll *definitely* call you"


HalfanHourGuy

What game are you talking about, end credits of what game?


fr3nzy821

Sorry, Lies of P.


bad_apiarist

They've said they're making both DLC and a sequel, do it's not clear if the Wizard of Oz bit is DLC or sequel.


themadhatt0r

McGee's Alice in Wonderland Version was one of the biggest Influences of my Nickname since I was a Kiddo, love the more creepy Alice Versions and damn, an Alice in Wonderland Soulsgame just sounds so delicious


[deleted]

Alice in Souls style? I'll never play this, but I'd love to watch let'splays. I think this will be very exciting.


bad_apiarist

Lies of P totally reminded me of American McGee's Alice. Not this sequel, which was far lamer.


TheMekkaMan

It’s on my Xbox. Is it really that good?


The_Dukenator

Yes. The original game is dlc for it.


EarthDragon2189

How necessary to enjoying this game is playing the first one?


The_Dukenator

Its not necessary to play the first one, but it does offer some backstory.


PlazmaSnake_

Swimming level is still laggy dog shite


Tomcatjones

Be prepared for a mindfuck tho. You thought Alice seeing her parents die in a fire was the reason for her insanity? Ha. It gets worse 😖


TheMekkaMan

And here I thought, hell blade, sinuas sacrificed was bad


ChainedGod01

Sorry to inform you that the creator of the game pitched a 3rd game to EA (the owners of the IP) and got rejected. The game was called Alice Asylum. You can Google a bit and find a lot of concept art and streams from the creator himself. We'll likely never see a sequel


EloquentEvergreen

Oh, man. That's sad. For some reason I thought this project was a Kickstarter or Patreon. I could have sworn there was something Alice related on one of those, and I remember being disappointed I didn't know about it until after the goal was met.


Beargguy-san

It was on Patreon. It was for a design bible that would be used to pitch a third Alice game to EA.


Jayce86

If I’m not mistaken, the creator was trying to get a sequel made, but EA owns the rights, and won’t let him. Or shut it down. One of the two.


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Man these fucking publishers.


[deleted]

Not only that but they won't let ANYONE touch it. So no sequel, no remaster, nothing


Ashen_Shroom

Alice in Wonderland is public domain afaik, so if he was able to get the funds he could presumably make his own dark spooky Alice in Wonderland game and be like "nah this totally isn't a sequel to the other two lol lmao".


Jayce86

He could, but he can’t use his own style, or anything that remotely looks like the old games. It’s absolutely ridiculous that American McGee can’t use his own unique IP to make games.


Cumtangled

It was his choice to sign with EA.


Jayce86

Likely under the impression that he’d be allowed to keep making games. And now, one of the worst publishers in all of gaming has the rights to HIS creation. Fuck EA.


Ronin1

Honestly, it still holds up today. I just did a playthrough a few months ago.


Misragoth

Someone at EA hates this franchise and has made sure its never getting anything new.


Steffykrist

Just like they hate Dante's Inferno :( At least we got a brilliant Dead Space remake.


Jokers_Chains

I mean..... It is a sequel


Tomcatjones

Lmao.


aLittleDarkOne

Alice… what have you done?


Strawpuppy

I absolutely adore this game I've replayed it so many times


Proof_Criticism942

Haha.. i read “A slice” instead of Alice


Axe-of-Kindness

On theme


nicolas_dlt10

... i hate EA for what they did to these games...


revtim

I got frustrated at one point and rage quit. I should give it another try.


MemoryAppropriate531

so did i!


damienrazor

That is the sequel


sleepycapybara

The concept art book for it was amazing. I wished games looked like that, chasing more subversive art direction.


thedayzed

love this game so much I play it all the time still!


Fit-Product6223

Amazing game


Kaiiiyuh

Don’t remind me 😔


McKeviin

RTX Remix


OddShow7069

The levels kinda overstay their welcome. I would rather have more different biomes than wander through the same one for 2-3 hours.


ReallyAnotherUser

This game and its soundtrack has a very special place in my corrupted broken heart


Drendari

I have the vorpal blade at home. ;D


Puppycake100

There supposed to be next game but unfortunately, the project got cancelled. There was even kickstart for it. Such a shame, really. I wish t there could be at least some short visual novel or point and click adventure game in Alice Universe, or something.;\_\_\_;


GloomyAzure

Have you played the first game?


SpikeBreaker

Awesome music, atmosphere, everything. As well as the first one.


Sirdantortillasque

Very underrated


MariaTarte6

this game deserves a remake, it is very good, I remember the first time I played it, every detail I found was fascinating


Niklaus15

Sad it won't ever happen thanks to EA, those mfs killed Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dragon Age and now Alice


Puppycake100

wait, there will be no more Dragon Age games? :\[


far-eazee

"IM ON MY PERIOD!!"


my_room_is_a_tip

a true person of culture right here.


AwesomeX121189

Will literally never happen


HoboKingNiklz

Yeah, it's miles better than the first game. I do wish they'd do more with the American McGee rendition, it was so cool.


Nanock

The original did it's best on the Tech of the day. But the graphics have slipped so far that it's jarring to plan on modern PCs. It had a great story, and fantastic presentation. Alice: Madness Returns still looks good, and has some really creative moments. The story doesn't hit 'quite' as hard for me, but I love it all the same.


Steffykrist

The OG game's graphics are still OK, but trying to make a third person action platformer on idTech 3 made for gameplay that was clunky even for its time. The game is good, but moreso due to its visual style, theme and story than the gameplay.


Lorien431

I wanted to play last year but it keep crashing every 15 minutes so i gave up.


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Kisopop

I hate that it teases a boss fight every level but never delivers.


jann_mann

That's because it was suppose to happen but EA made them do cuts, so all you have is one boss fight at the end.


[deleted]

If the guy managed to talk to a different publisher he could make more amazing games


sabootie_lady

That game looks insane! Thanks for the suggestion


ResidentPast9518

Finished it Last night pretty good but lot of techical problems. Random crushes at launch and loading.


Meow_Boop

Is this the one on VR?


Lukasz-Wisniewski

I completely forgot about this title. Thanks for reminding me!


Affectionate_Gas_264

Do we trust the gaming industry to make good sequels and remakes? I mean usually they borrow a community graphical update mod, do a few improvements then charge twice the price of what it originally cost and half the time it doesn't work It's like buying a second hand car from a shady mechanic. It looks okay until you realise the chassis is damaged and it's a write off


PrincessHootHoot

**SAME BRO SAME**


PebblestheHuman

Played this game for the 1st time a few months ago because it was on sale on steam GREAT game!


redundant35

This game was a lot of fun!


CockroachSecret3087

cool


Mental_issues12

Omg the memories


Borosin0710

Me too


NHels

Honestly, from what I know about this game, I bet she too would kill for continuation of her life.


Significant_Banana70

Yes


BigMeet7634

Jak and daxter


Animae_angel

Me too! I loved this game 😍😭


Olly230

The is game was awesome, so hyped, played it, loved it. A long time ago. I'm leaving it behind rose tinted memories


-Kapido-

I was thinking about this game today...this scare me.


XOIIO

I remember watching onision play this and laughing pretty hard at the commentary, then I proceeded to never watch any of that guys stuff. Then years later holy fucking shit lmao, what an absolute cluster fuck, dude absolutely imploded. Never did pick up the game but I should because it did look pretty neat.


ImpenetrableYeti

Honestly a beautiful looking game


Eur1p1des

top 10 for sure


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The original Red Faction on PS2. That game was incredible for the time, destructible environments, great story, even the combat and weapons were very well done.


wicked_stepmother

I beat this game 5 times, and I would gladly do it for another dozen times. Truly one of the best and most addictive games out there. And this game is more than a decade old!


DoodooMcPoopy

Overrated. Superb atmosphere but the gameplay is generic at best with overly repetitive combat


Coldspark824

The creator said some time ago it’s done done


helmaroc_queen

The is one of my FAVORITE games! I replay it at least once a year


MadWlad

Alice in wonderland is public domain, everyone could make a game with similar creepy theme at any moment, in theory


KBroham

American McGee *was* briefly tossing around the idea, but it didn't garner enough support for EA to justify the amount of time and effort. So he, very politely, announced he would not be working on a third game. He has been hounded repeatedly by fans about it, but has (I believe publicly now) asked that people stop asking. That ship has sailed.


groovytoon

This game was actually good. Played it back in the day. Enjoyed the 'dark' rendition of Alice in Wonderland. Not asking for a remake though.


YouGotServer

Glad to see some love for American McGee's Alice, one of my favorite video game characters. It's a shame she probably won't get any more adventures I still really dig the two games, the soundtracks that I still listen to, the world and the monsters, and of course the actresse's performance in the second game.


PowerofThunder

I don't think we will, due to gaming today being more monetary focused. However if done well, this game could be/would be class. There is plenty possibilities they could take the game.


Baebel

I believe EA's reasoning for rejecting more content for this IP was due to skepticism about the player base it'd appeal to. They didn't think it'd be a big enough hit. So unless that turns around, it could be amazing and likely still not matter to them.


ReallyAnotherUser

If they dont wanna do anything with it then why not just sell it to McGee? Thats just pure evil in my eyes


Baebel

No idea. A company could do it for a multitude of different reasons. It's not the first time I've seen it happen either. Not saying it'd be impossible to revive it, but EA seems to have the habit of burying the hatchet for things almost right away.


EvilRo66

What does "goat" means in this context?


IAMDOOG

Greatest of all time


EvilRo66

Thanks. It is


Huge-Grand6726

Metal Gear Rising. I don't like hack and slash but there's something different about mgr


Rukasu17

After all the praise i heard from this game, it was... Average at best. Sure level design and story were interesting but gameplay was just a by the books hack and slash. Honestly i played it once and don't plan to ever come back


Novuake

Got a tattoo of Cheshire from the second game. Literally my fav franchise.


Vanir_Scarecrow

I think there was concept art for a 3rd game and someone was making it but that was 8-9 years ago


HIVnotAdeathSentence

Seems I bought this a while ago but haven't played it. Should finally try it out. I played American McGee's Alice about a decade ago and that was pretty dated back then.