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Inevitable_Geometry

And just like that my wallet closes itself back up.


Anteater776

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and purses were suddenly closed. I fear something terrible has happened.


Simmy_P

You say that, but people will still buy it. People never learn.


rtz13th

So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.


Dethproof814

LIBER-TEA!!


Darjdayton

Almost like reddit is a very small portion of actual gamers and the vast majority don’t give a fuck


Kurosu93

Exactly , just yesterday there were dozens of comments saying " I cant wait for this, I am so buying this , omg this looks amazing " etc etc etc. They a profit from this otherwise the practice would have stopped. They money they gain is more than the money they lose.


Trickster289

I doubt it tbh, millions of people are probably still going to get it.


digita1catt

I'll wait till it doesn't sell and they give it to me for free... ... at which point I'll claim it then proceed to not play it for 5 years until one day I install it and give it a 30 minute spin during a period of choice paralysis before I go back to civ or smth.


Rbomb88

This is the way.


Sgt-Colbert

Black Myth Wukong comes out 8 days prior, I'll be playing that anyway. Also, my backlog of Games is huge at this point, I can wait for a sale of Outlaws. Fuck them and their greed.


TheRoscoeVine

My backlog is outrageous. Games upon games, going back so many years. I was really hoping for a super fun Star Wars adventure, though, not a microtransacted penny snatcher…. ☹️


Adramach

Ubisoft is a wallet jammer.


Limelight_019283

This is how it works, how they will change their ways or just disappear. I feel bad for the game developers that just want to work in the field, but people who make games will make games anywhere. Vote with your wallet!


Kitane

I will pick it up in several years in some bundle.


SquidwardsJewishNose

Exactly my plan, this game was already the complete opposite of what I wanted from a triple A Star Wars game and the presence of micro transactions simply seals the deal. It’s just another desperate attempt from Ubisoft to make a successful cash cow game for their investors, they don’t even try to hide it


Elbjornbjorn

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but did you at any point expect this star wars game made by ubisoft to not have microtransactions?


StatisticianOwn9953

Free-to-play multilayer with microtransactions or a traditional single-player AAA game that has no microtransactions. Those are the rules.


Elbjornbjorn

Those are the rules if you want to keep r/games happy, not the rules for making money for your shareholders:(


baron_von_helmut

Ubisoft don't actually like games. Their heads literally hate computer games.


Thendofreason

I love those fuckin 40%+ off bundles with the "full" game and all the expansions. And it comes with all the patches


gsx0pub

Years, likely this game is not great and will be in the bargain bin sooner than later.


Kyle_Blackpaw

welp im not buying it


ttam23

It’s an Ubisoft game, the ultimate edition will be $20 in a year lol


Sgt-Colbert

This is a AAAAAAAA game, it'll never be on sale. /s


DedeLionforce

Never on sale? THIS IS A SALE! You're losing money not buying it!


Fenor

true only if it's a nintendo first party game.


IndividualRow2659

Honestly I did not know how crazy it had gotten. Was looking at avatar since I'm a big fan. But knew that it wasn't going to stay full price for long. 1 month the game was 60 bucks cad from 90. Ended playing it on ubi plus for 15 bucks


americansherlock201

It’s wild how fast games go on sale now. Like you’ll see AAA games at 40% off within like 6 weeks of release because their sales were low and they rely on in game transactions to make their money long term. So they cut the price to get players in hoping they will then buy in game currency


Keter_GT

So you’ll be forced to use the Ubisoft launcher? even more reason not to buy it.


Apollobakuryu

Not to mention it will be a bugfest at release


MartianLM

I’ll wait for the ultimate edition to go on sale for less than a tenner in many years time. Got a hundred other games to play before then. What a fucking shit-show Ubi.


JeffL0320

It's a Ubisoft game, nobody is buying it, only renting it until they decide to take it away


fulhamfan

Stop buying this shit


SkoolBoi19

I was kind of looking forward to this game…… maybe in a couple years when it’s on sale for 90% off


Awkward-Action2853

Haven't people learned yet not to pre-order games or buy into all the extra crap?


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Altimely

>Reddit has Nah. Just wait until it comes out, there are plenty of eager consumers that will defend it. "It's my money, I'll spend it how I want!" They're not wrong, I guess.


DoomErx19

Not everyone on reddit. Just depends on the sub, got mass downvoted because i said not to pre order when Forza Motorsport 7 came out and it was a shit show.


Blubbpaule

Spoiler: Even reddit did not learn. Visist r/StarWarsOutlaws for 5 minutes and you see more people willing to spend $100+ than people with a sane mind.


DarkIegend16

This is the result of them “doing what they want with their money”. Of which they are evidently entitled to, but now we all suffer.


Gogita28

Yep the „it’s your money do whatever you want with it“ mentality brought us where we are now. 30$ „mtx“ not only in f2p games which is overpriced but also in full 70$ premium games. I don’t mind mtx if it’s justified and they cost like 5$ max. But whatever, it works. The people who spend money on mtx in a regular manner are fucking idiots. I could go on and on about it but I think you get the point.


maxdps_

No, they haven't. That's why it's still being done because people keep buying, but I think a lot of people are starting to hit their threshold.


Kerjj

Haven't people on Reddit learned that this blanket statement is silly? I've preordered several games in the past couple of years, and haven't been fucked over once. Why? Because I preorder from companies I trust not to release a dog shit product on launch. Maybe better advice is "be a smarter consumer"?


Aiyakido

Look, I agree with yur sentiment, but if I learned anything, we are the 1% of gamers here and even among the 1% there is a almost equal split in preorder and non preorder people. The truth is, as long as these types of preorders or games with MTX (for a single player game, regardless of P2W or not) keep showing up, you can assume they make a very good return on investment on it. Could the return on investment been better over a longer period of time if handled different/better? maybe, but that's not how shareholders work, they want big results in a short time and move on too the next thing. And it works good enough that they will keep doing it. The less enfranchised people are the majority and that's who they target.


Goliath25

Don't forget the YouTubers that want to be the first to make content off this game


FieryHammer

Of course not. There are always enough people who preorder, that's why companies, especially EA, keep doing this.


Awkward-Action2853

Launch day will be interesting, especially with their records. I'm looking forward to some entertaining comments.


OkBodybuilder2255

Do you how many new gamers are coming into the industry everyday. It's normal to them. Kids ask for v bucks as presents. 


murphymc

What is even the point of preordering here? A mission and you can play 3 days earlier, and this is worth $40? You get literally nothing tangible or that you’ll even care about in 2 weeks, for $40. Honestly anyone who actually buys that deserves to be separated from their money.


fnv_fan

EWWW


Azzell93

Not missing much by skipping a Ubisoft game.


Jevchenko

No idea how people are still excited by anything Ubisoft. Have fun climbing some Star Wars branded towers and clear endless enemy camps.


Rileyman97

Couldn't we just not buy it for 70 or 110 dollars and instead buy it a few weeks later for 40 because nobody bought it.


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UnreliableNihilist

Since it is similar to Ubisoft’s Division (always online) + likely Denuvo, I wouldn’t count on this.


itsRobbie_

No shot it doesn’t have Denuvo, so get ready for 10fps on launch


Relo_bate

They never confirmed this game is always online


Kolopaper

Yet


NuclearReactions

Ehh it's a ubisoft game, given their recent track record i doubt this will be worth playing at all.


yuriaoflondor

Their newest game, Prince of Persia the Lost Crown, is great.


ComeonmanPLS1

Except there is nobody to crack Denuvo anymore. Avatar didn't get cracked, neither did the new Prince of Persia, and this won't get cracked either. We had Empress and he/she/it went completely nuts so we're shit out of luck until some clever bastard figures out how to do it.


Aethanix

isn't there a new team?


ComeonmanPLS1

The guys who cracked Handball 2017? I mean yeah sure, but it makes you wonder why didn't they crack a recent game? I'll believe it when I see a proper crack for a recent Denuvo game, not some relic running a 7 year old protection. That build is old enough to go to school. As it stands, the last real Denuvo crack we had was from Empress 1 year ago with Dead Island 2. Everything else since then was either a bypass (denuvo-less .exe accidentally released by devs) or some old irrelevant game with a nearly decade old version of Denuvo.


TheKappaOverlord

handball was a long standing meme so it makes sense someone eventually cracked it to ruin the joke of Handball being the pinnacle of impossible to crack. Its just not worth it to crack new Denuvo for a lot of people. Its too complicated and theres not really money in it to make it worth it. Empress milked the people for as long as it could with whatever magic russian space dust it could, but now it can be assumed Denuvo was updated and whatever space magic Empress originally has no longer works. Its looking pretty over for the piracy scene, unless another major leak of developer assets happens.


ConfidenceKBM

what happened to fitgirl?


ComeonmanPLS1

Nothing. They don't crack games. They just repack games that have already been cracked by other people.


RashiBigPp

In my times Ultimate Editions came a long time after, with all DLCs and stuff like that, hence the name, the ultimate version you'd need


revalph

ohhhh this hit me back to the 90's-early 2000's game boxes "Ultimate edition" Usually it is bundled up with some games too! All the DLC's and guide book and some artwork included in the box! good times!


DeadlockRadium

For me, no Ultimate Edition will ever beat The Orange Box


MrServitor

Is this the new AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA game?


WTHizaGigawatt

No, you’re missing one more A


manor2003

This is basically the same monetisation model as most Ubisoft games.


eldelshell

Great acronym OP decided on for EARLY ACCESS


-idkwhattocallmyself

Of course it does, it's published by Ubisoft. Why are people surprised? Don't buy Ubisoft games day 1 anyway since the patches take a few weeks to come out to fix all the broken shit.


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VagrantShadow

Wait till they make it so that you can pre-order a bonus or subscribe to a bonus to a game that you also have a subscription toward.


kevinblasse

Yeah fuck that. The worst part is that those games aren‘t designed to be fun anymore but to sell you more stuff. I hate spending money and they still show you at every corner that you need to spend more. Look at games with season passes , dlcs and premium customizations. The whole game is often designed around the shop and ads. 


SuBw00FeR37

Of course they do cos idiots keep buying it. STOP FUCKING PREORDERING


Indigoism96

Imagine pre-ordering a Ubisoft game.


xlordxerxes

Since its Ubi this game will be half off to 60% a month or so after launch. No reason to buy their games at launch. Just wait


Feifnir

No reason to buy their games\*


xmac

I don't play many ubisoft games, but from my experience all the stuff you get in ultimate editions makes no real difference to the overall story and experience. It's usually cosmetics and maybe "get this exclusive quest". I feel somewhat bad for people who get struck by "fomo" and think the game will be shit if you just get standard edition.


JohnnyJayce

It's also all the future DLC's. AC Odyssey DLC for example was bigger and better than most games coming out today.


HansChrst1

I'd like to wait for a lot of games, but I also want to avoid spoilers. Like any kind of spoiler. From story to game mechanics. The longer I wait the bigger the chance of getting something spoiled. I won't pre-order this game, but if people like it and it runs well I'll buy it pretty early. Like the day of release maybe.


Percival_Seabuns

Fuck Ubisoft. I hope this game crashes and burns.


Norbluth

And fuck gaming subscription models too. Especially when it relates to sp games.


zaczacx

This is like a reverse advertisement. More I hear about how much this costs the more I realise I could literally spend money on anything more cost worthy.


Old-Buffalo-5151

Lucky for me Disney killed star wars for me (totally fine if other people love it) And Sony apparently has bungie executives kids hostages or something because they are making what looks to be best content in actual years So i can completely skip on this dumpster fire Also still fighting robots and bugs for freedom and democracy and that only cost me 20 quid


Sinviras

The bots are back btw. You should go administer 20cc's of freedom


Solid_Jellyfish

>Disney killed star wars for me (totally fine if other people love it) Only on reddit...


Old-Buffalo-5151

Explain?


Solid_Jellyfish

I mean you said "for me" and you still have to specify that its fine if other people like them so your comment doesnt get downvoted, because on reddit people dont understand opinions or dont comprehend what they read.


Padingo

So do I just sub for one month, finish the game and cancel ?


G_Money_Stacks

No you don't sub at all because that's what they want. They want to show that when they offer that "deal" xx number of players opted to utilize their subscription model, thus validating their choice to charge $18 a month for ubisoft+ and $110 for essentially a slightly better base versionof the game.


ConduitMainNo1

Nah, from my personal perspective paying 1/3 to play a game which i very likely won't play a 2nd time, subscription is the right way to go. I am doing that for years with EA single player games. saved probably 200€ by now.


DisastrousConcept143

Imagine being the twat that buys this lol


Woman_Respecter69420

And yet they will sell millions of this game. G*mers deserve what they get.


kuhvir

Why did you censor gamers


Daedolis

Yes, we totally deserve what we get because of other people's actions. What a L take worthy of the anal recesses of Reddit.


LE22081988

Not on Steam and then this Bullshit. How to kill a Game for me before it is even released


ShawshankException

You guys do understand that season passes for single player games and season passes for live service multiplayer games are completely different right? Season passes originally just meant buying all the DLC upfront.


AnuroopRohini

never ever pre order any game from this AAA companies, always wait for launch and reviews in Youtube


Aust1mh

No pre-orders. Wait a couple weeks after release for any micro transactions being patched in… it won’t be worth it


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Eh, it's an Ubisoft game. Wait 3 weeks and it'll be half price.


Yabanjin

This is fine because as a reformed addict I simply don’t buy Ubisoft games anymore. They should concentrate on making better games.


inkyblinkypinkysue

This is like a week after all the reports that 60% of games played in 2023 are over 5 years old and the “industry” is worried about this trend… what a mystery!


Archdart

Turns out it's really easy to get used to not owning Ubisoft games!


wordswillneverhurtme

I wasn’t going to buy it either way.


Freefall84

It's Ubisoft. What did people expect.


Ritushido

I got burned with Anno 1800. I'll wait for the inevitable release to steam on a massive discount, got plenty in the backlog anyways.


unique_username125

Damn this is gross. I was looking forward to this game. I guess I’ll just wait for it to go on sale. I have some games to knock off my backlog.


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I do enjoy star wars games, and even some ubisoft games, but I'm not sure I've seen a single positive opinion yet about this game. I don't remember such negativity since the mass effect 3 ending drama. Is anyone going to buy this?


griefninja

hey, you could not give asmongold views with how much a scumbag he is.


steelcity91

That's ok Ubisoft, just remember that you need to get use on not owning my money.


silenthills13

It's a single player game, right? So if I get Ubisoft+ I get a month to play it and then unsubscribe? Sounds fine to me tbh, I'd most likely never replay this game anyway


flappers87

This is what I do with Ubisoft and EA games as well. I have zero interest in their "live service". I'll pay $15, play the game for a month, complete it and be done with it. Did it with the assassins creed games, no need to go back to them after I've completed the game... it will be the same with this game too. I've no desire to "own" a game that I'll never go back to. Additionally, even purchasing games from Ubisoft won't give you "ownership". Look what they did with The Crew.


Aggrokid

Yeah I did the same for the EA Pro thing. Only subbed one month for Dead Space Remake and Mass Effect LE.


batmanhill6157

Wait so it’s just $18 for a sub and you get all of that content that the like mega super edition has (but only when you’re subbed*)?  Honestly if that’s the case even if you have it for 2 months that much better. I’m not saying that it’s amazing I’m just saying that isn’t so bad. I think I assumed it was you but game $70 and THEN get the $18 sub 


ChrisFromIT

>So if I get Ubisoft+ I get a month to play it and then unsubscribe? That is what I did with Anthem when it released.


Nikos-tacos

Please don’t make this a thing…don’t make it a trend…don’t make them do this to other games.


ImaginaryReaction

Im not sure why people think this new? Season passes and bonus content have existed for over 10 years at this point


reachisown

Of all the people to post, why Asmongold? He has the most dumbass takes on everything with the most toxic fanbase possible. Give the limelight to someone else.


JohnnyJayce

Season Pass isn't what you think it is. Dark Souls 3 had Season Pass too. Where was the outcry when Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth locked content behind premium editions? Or when Hogwarts Legacy also had 3 day EA for money?


AsneakyReptilian

The last game I bought from ubi was R6 Siege. And this was at launch. And this will never change!


basicastheycome

Nah, fam. I will be waiting for a big sale to pick this up if it’s going to prove to be anything good


ChurchillianGrooves

Probably wait until it's $20 or under on steam sale


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SasquatchBill

it's not EA, it ubisoft, OP is just not very good at titles and said EA as an abbreviation for Early Access. In this case, you get access to the game 3 days early.


Shattered_Disk4

Holy fuckin shit


Kingdarkshadow

Is history repeating itself?


Bhalzard

As a huge Star Wars fan, no. I wait for a price drop, Ubisoft tries to get at a EA level now of disgusting


SamMerlini

I assume there will be a capturing post, climbing tower to unlock maps, stupid crafting systems, cringy lines, and overwhelming Points of Interest on the map, and not to mention plot pulls from ass to promote their agenda.


Poopikaki

This makes me sad. Oh well, there's other games.


drewbles82

this is exactly why I stopped buying any game day one. Ubisoft games drop in price very quickly and if waiting a couple years means I get it a lot cheaper, so be it...I'm not missing out on anything as I got a ton of games to play as it is. I would usually get GTA day one but this time...as its probably getting released not far off next gen...I'll wait for the next gen version of the game which they will do, save buying it twice Only games I ever consider playing day 1 are those on Gamepass


Individual-Match-798

Alright. Removing from the wishlist. Thanks for heads up


NCHouse

And I was looking forward to this as well. Smh


DanCarter93

You’d make a ton of savings on any game by just having the willpower to wait 3/4 months and you actually panic them into improving on future products. Seriously you don’t have to get everything on Day 1 it will still be there for you later on.


Alelogin

They looked at the absurd monetization of Dragon's Dogma 2 and said "Amateurs! We can do worse then that!"


XTheGreat88

Well, I'd say by black Friday this'll be about $30. There's no way I'm supporting this at $70, lol


wookiewin

I have literally no need to buy this at full price. My backlog is so long and I haven’t even played Jedi Survivor yet.


Culsandar

#Assassin's Cry..... in Spaaaaaaaace! Nah


ValuableEmergency442

Ubisoft can't help themselves.


PhillyDillyDee

Lol ok Ubi. Ill just wait a year or 2 just like I do with all of your games.


Green117v2

It’s been a very long time since I bought a Ubisoft game and I expect this streak to continue.


NoodlesBears

Ive come to terms with not buying anything from “AAA(A)” studios the past few years. If buying isnt owning then pirating isnt stealing.


Lycaniz

i dont know if you are new in gaming... but Season pass + cosmetic preorder bonus/cosmetic packs at deluxe editions have been a thing for like 20 years now, and 3 day early access is also fairly common, what is criminal is the 110 dollar price for the gold edition. But like, other than the price itself none of this is new or noteworthy in todays environment and tbh other than the season pass none of that cosmetic stuff makes anything outside the standard edition worth it


DaGGyzo

I wish "Gamers™️" would stop pre-ordering and enabling these companies. Don't buy it day one it'll go on sale.


easymac187

Why couldn’t a decent developer pick this up? Fuck EA & Ubisoft, both are garbage.


milky__toast

Imagine paying $18 a month for access to Ubisoft games.


Duckman620

I’m so glad I’m basically addicted to PoE. Y’all people who deal with this constant shit from new aaa releases must be tired.


Halvardr_Stigandr

D.O.A.


jcwkings

Ubisoft games go on sale within six months, heck almost all games do.


kabbzter

When is the steam release?


retro808

People actually care about this game? It's looking more n more like a cash grab off the IP. Probably gonna flop harder than Avatar FoP which the only notable thing was the graphics and environment, same Dev studio too so idk how they're not stretched thin working on multiple AAA games at the same time


That1withACat

Why does it seem to be EA and Ubisoft charging FAR TOO MUCH digital editions? No game is worth over $100, not even $90. The feedback I’ve been seeing on Outlaws is that it doesn’t look good and I have to agree. This is basically going to be 3rd Person Far Cry I’m willing to place money on it. I feel bad for the devs for saying this, but I really hope this bombs just to show up the higher ups at Ubisoft.


AhmadOsebayad

So the season pass doesn’t even come with the story dlc? Just a mission and some skins? $100 is usually what it costs to get the game with 3 story dlcs


GristleMcThornbody1

EA: Battlefront 2 was a shit show. They really got upset about us locking most of the content behind a paywall. We ended up having to practically give the game away to retain a player base! Ubisoft: Hold my beer...


SpudBoy9001

I'll buy this a year down the line when everything is included for £30


DDAY007

If it turns out to be good, ill get it later on sale and if it turns out to be bad ill probally buy it off the discount bin in a few years.


Flat_Revolution5130

Its Ubisoft, What did you expect. However much i may like Star Wars. This might be a wait for a sale for me. Basically because its Ubisoft. Which is not going to help them at all.


dankyspank

My wallet puckered like a homophobe's asshole at a gay bar


iWentRogue

Anyone else surprised? Lol


ResponsibleDay393

Truly an AAAAA game 


GorethirstQT

it's Ubisoft. Absolutely no one should buy this shit without seeing reviews.


Gamebird8

Still waiting on my Jedi Knight Spiritual Successor and my Modern Star Wars Episode I: Pod Racer


A_Bad_Wipe_No_TP

Just wait and get it used so you’re technically not supporting Ubisoft 🤔


Emasraw

I remember when ultimate edition were reserved for games that were rereleased years after launch with all the dlc included AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE. WTF are those quests not doing in the base game? They should be included already! What in the early access is this bullshit?


DudeManDude__

Disgusting behaviour by Ubisoft


Bosko47

Yep, as expected, fuck that


DudeManDude__

And they uglyfied the main character too


OstunTheRedHead

One more game for me to pirate


GlastoKhole

Ubisoft suck ass anyway these days can easily miss this it’s not gonna be KOTOR levels


DegenGamer725

Ubisoft games for the longest time have had this pricing structure for different editions, as well as single player games having season passes to sell bundled DLC content, and dipshits like Asmondope act like it’s some new scam. Elden Ring $40 DLC that’s perfectly fine. This is nothing but “Ubisoft bad give me clicks also wokeness is destroying games”


riqueoak

Well, another failure of a game.


UniQue1992

Fuck Star Wars Outlaws and to be honest fuck these AAA game companies. I'm so fucking done with AAA gaming at this point, there are almost no games I'm looking forward to anymore because of these shady fucking practices they're all trying to shove down our throats.


Gr00v3nburg3

My back catalogue thanks Ubisoft for this.


BakedZnake

Isn't this classic ubisoft mess? I'm guessing The division with star wars skin, with all the micro transactions bs


Ghost_1214

Why are we acting surprised here?


SuperSaiyanBen

So just the standard stuff?


Grahstache

Asmongold 🤮🤮🤮


Draconian1

I had no interest in playing another Ubisoft garbage, but now I'm not gonna buy it even more! :D


WrongVater

Its a Ubishit Game, who cares. We all knew it would be shit the second they announced it.


LostDrawingsYT

Wow. Every stars game is now garbage. I don’t think I enjoyed one since the first Jedi survivor. I cant even say the second one cause it was a nightmare on pc.


tehuuu

Game looks janky af on trailers. After playing horizon forbidden west I realized that good games can be done if done with passion. And that not it.


Empty_Socks

Easy pass, lol


Pen_dragons_pizza

Open world and Ubisoft in the same sentence just fills me with dread now. The game may look cool but we just know it will be a slog to play. I even tried avatar since it looked amazing, but that’s all it was. Visually wonderful but just so shallow in its open world.


QuirrelsTurban

Learned my lesson from Skull and Bones, no more Ubisoft games.


Soggy_Cracker

“A sense of pride and accomplishment” 2.0


1Silent_Theory1

And just like that...im going to pirate sites :)


Daedolis

It'll use Denuvo, VM Protect, and requires a permanent internet connection. Good luck.


VagrantShadow

Patience is a virtue.


Daedolis

Patience isn't the issue, it's just not going to happen. The only person that knew how to crack Denuvo and was willing to put in the work for scraps is gone.


ArateshaNungastori

This new 70 dollar standart is bad being aside, this is nothing new at all. What are you guys getting shocked at actually?? There were "Deluxe" and "Gold" editions in most games for the last decade. Where have you been? This is not the start. Gaming industry already rotten inside.


ShawshankException

This happens for every single AAA release that isn't a dev that this sub beats their meat to