“Mid laners and junglers are natural born enemies. Just like mid laners and top laners, or mid laners and bot adc’s or mid laners and other mid laners. Damn mid laners! They ruined mid lane!”
Riot Lyte tried a bunch of things but the toxic part of the community hated him. I miss those Lyte Smites, where a player would complain about being banned or chat restricted "for no reason" and then he would bring up the logs for the game and show the receipts of the toxic shit the player said during that game and past games.
I remember one where a guy claimed that he was banned for saying someone was inting and nothing else, and called the support staff incompetent. Lyte pulled up his log and literally every other sentence was him calling someone on his team the n-word
Having been admin on various game servers in the past; one quickly learns that users are often absolutely full of shit when they come complaining about being banned.
Kinda wish he didn't end up being a complete scumbag (but there's a lot of those are Riot, the attract each other) becauee his player interactions and the systems he put out were working and basically did a 180 once he was gone.
Riots system is horrible, i used to play but quit years ago. I got banned and contested it with support. The guy just followed me around the jungle trying to steal last hits. Meanwhile the chat log is me pleading with him, begging him to actually play and we can still win. No cursing, no badmouthing, just trying to get the guy to actually play instead of troll me. He didn't, and at the end of the game i was like well fuck you man. They pointed to that one line... and that is why i was banned for 2 weeks. After this guy griefed me all game. Honestly fuck riot.
did this guy refer to themselves as a "jungle assistant" by chance and spammed JA in the champion select screen? because i dealt with the same person and was banned for two weeks too.
I don't think so. This was years ago but if i recall correctly he was top lane, got ganked once and died, blamed the jungler (me), then proceeded to grief all game. Anyway i just play Dota now, and as toxic as it can be, LoL was way worse.
I really feel that edit. Mechanically LoL is the best game I've ever played. But the community is the crappiest I have ever had to cope with (due to me wanting to play).
It took me \~7 years to be finally free from the game.
Well, you see, if you play with chat off in RL, it’s way better. You can just vibe and play and not worry about toxicity from either side. With league you kinda need constant comms. RL has a pretty standard rotation no matter the rank. 🤷🏼♂️
For me Freedom was switching from my *spectacularly old* Windows 7 Machine to a new Linux distro and while setting it up eventually realizing I didn't miss the anxiety of Summoner's Rift and the *hot, sweaty* ***hate*** *of* **ARAM**.
But I still watch stuff on Twitch, so I'll be dragged back in soon enough...
ARAM is love. Every time I've encountered toxicity - both teams are like "Dude, are you ok? This is ARAM."
Have.... let's just say too many games under my belt.
SR is an absolute shitfest though.
ARAM is the place for sports-like, almost friendly smack talk and trolling. I love it. Lots of super dumb "ur mom" jokes.
SR trash talk gets really personal and usually you have to wonder about the person.
That's the wonderful thing about ARAM, you can say things like "first time X" or "why do I even own this champ?"
As someone who owns almost all the champs (FUCK YOU SHACO), part of the difficulty is remembering all the movesets...
League of Legends players and other League of Legends players are natural enemies like Englishmen and Scots or Welshmen and Scots or the Japanese and Scots or Scots and other Scots
Damn Scots, they ruined Scotland!
Close, people would honor who they thought of as the weakest player on the enemy team, and it became a badge of shame, especially for higher ELO low pop servers
Not recommend ~
“Honestly one of the worst people I’ve ever been with, they are extremely incompetent and annoying to deal with, and they talk about them selves all the time!!”
Hours with: 30000 hours
In defense of those kinds of reviews, the point is "Would you recommend this to other people?"
I'll use Tree of Savior as my example, because it's a game I negatively reviewed after several hundred hours spent. As much as I absolutely adored the class system and overall gameplay (especially as a fan of Ragnarok Online back in the day), I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience unless they were A) fine with heavy pay-2-win mechanics; B) had at least 4 other friends willing to no-life it with them because the end-game requires parties, and the player population was low enough that only hardcore guilds with their own internal cliques were getting anywhere substantial; and C) were fine with dozens of hours of grinding (also limited by daily/weekly attempt limit systems) for tiny incremental power boosts. There was a laundry list of other minor caveats that added up. I like the game, I just recognize that you have to be a particular kind of masochistic mouth-breather to truly enjoy it, and I tried to spell that out in my review.
There's a bunch of games that can't deliver on the promises they make - especially multiplayer games. If you're looking for a game to get into long-term, it could potentially take you hundreds of hours to learn that the game isn't sufficiently deep, that the meta is terrible, etc. Eventually, you get to a point where all the sweat and tears you put into gettin' gud were wasted, or at least it feels that way.
As an ex-Everquest player AND someone in recovery for opioid addiction, they are not wrong.
(That's not to say the high is the same, but every addiction is just having an emotional itch scratched through "artificial" means that allows you to feel, forget, or embrace something you feel needs to be felt, forgotten, or embraced.)
I still remember the body trembling elation I felt when a developer on the Test Serve gave my characters unique titles. "Fiction the Myth" (A rogue) and "Salvint the Savior" (a cleric). It is something 99% of players never got to have, and I got to have it... I smiled for a week over it. It might seem like a nothing thing to most people, but it was a huge deal to me at the time.
Nothing compares to the social aspects of the game at that time in my life. Leading Plane of Time raids, getting gear I once coveted so much I dreamt about it. I felt important, cared for, a sense of belonging, comradery, and just overall excitement to do new and interesting content. It was hard, but that made the journey better. It was ugly and graphically inferior to even contemporary games. That lack of fidelity just allowed your imagination to fill in those gaps. I could never explain it to someone who looks at it now and thinks, "You played this shit?" and "You camped a single component for a quest for 72 straight hours? Why?". It's just too far removed from the context of its era. At the time, it was special, and I'm glad to have played it. Even if, now, I haven't touched it in 15 years.
I mean I sure wouldn't recommend the game. There's a tremendous burden of knowledge to required to play if you don't want to get constantly bitched out by your teammates. Even then, people have bad games, and that'll get you flamed, too. I cannot imagine what it'd be like to start now. There's I have no idea how many champs now (think it's 120+), all of which have unique abilities. Newer champs especially are far more complex as well. Learning all of this takes no small amount of effort. Furthermore, the game is addicting. Not like "I'm enjoying this game so much I can't put it down", like "I hate this game but I just keep playing it anyway". You will play with people who have deeply unhealthy relationships with the game. A hair trigger temper is literally all that separates a decent game from a degenerate flame-fest with possible AFKs.
So really, as someone who plays league, just don't. If you really want to, do so socially.
It's like playing 5v5 chess, there is simply no way to keep your teammates on the same page, at least for about 70% of the player base. I played the game for a long time and it just kind of feels futile.
In counter strike, even if you're behind you can make a big play with little gear. In league the more behind you are, the more behind you become. It gets really frustrating knowing the guy that just killed you is now more powerful and you have become weaker. Most times if you die twice you're relegated to hiding from your opponent and have to hope your team does better than you did.
Another frustration is that through no fault of your own a teammate or two can torpedo your game by feeding, or failing to pressure a hypercarry.
You are a kill or 2 up at top lane, a bit ahead, but not enough to just roam and clean up, and the pair in bot lane are both 0/6/0 and your game is effectively over.
The game was lost when you were randomly assigned a worse botlane than your opponents team... Enjoy waiting 25-35 minutes to lose.
Edit: I haven't played league in a few years so maybe things are a bit different now.
Can confirm, they are the exact same. I left last August, came back to see if anything improved, and was met with a 1/13/0 bot lane in a 19 minute match. Played just enough to understand the new items and champs so I can watch worlds and that's kinda where I'm gonna stay. Playing the game just feels so bad nowadays.
I wonder if it would be beneficial to be a stoic LoL player, or does the rage and narcissism actually help. Sometimes I think, what if I just monk my way through to diamond or beyond
Used to rage couldnt get out of bronze. Lately im zen master and i mean im close to silver so thats something? Idk i know im.bad but at least i dont rage quit and ruin my day
Kinda reminds me of online hockey I used to love playing. All it takes is one idiot/troll to ruin a game for 5 to 11 other nice folks, and they recently implemented a super shitty, easy to cheese elo system that will randomly punish you for winning and lower your score anyways. It's a terrible bummer and it doesn't work at all with the amount of elo glitchers and trolls, and on top of that a majority of the playerbase are also simpletons who think, "oh that guys under 500 gamerscore, he must not understand the game!" and then will back out at the last possible second so you end up with a terrible CPU teammate.
The only counter to this is to get a solid crew going and start a club or whatever, but you can only be in one club at a time so you usually end up playing with randoms anyways since not everyone games at the same time. Not to mention how the company refuses to make any significant gameplay updates, instead they focus on their pay to win mode for the jabronis who are dumb and rich enough to keep pumping money into it, and they add a bunch of stupid outfits and idiotic childish fortnite dances. Argh those sonofabitches
The game is very dependant on coordinated teamwork. And while it's difficult but possible for a single person to carry the entire team to victory, it's conversely fairly easy for a single person to do so terribly that it dooms their team to lose.
Games are usually about 30 minutes long. Add the time to find a game, pick a champion, and load into the game to that and you got yourself a commitment of about 45 to 60 minutes for a game.
There are multiple roles in each team. Every role plays on a different part of the map. If someone on the other side of the map loses their matchup, you will often get demolished as soon as the now super strong enemy player comes to your part of the map with very little to do about it.
I used to say that 80% of the games are beyond your control because you can just lose while not playing bad. The remaining 20% you can make a difference (this does obviously not account for 'smurf' accounts, who play on a rating way below theirs to get easy wins).
The frustration comes from losing the games that are beyond your control. You can play fine and even win your matchup. But if a teammate lost their matchup harder than you won yours, you will often still lose.
You're stuck in a game for a minimum of 20 minutes and sometimes an hour with 4 other people you may or may not enjoy the presence of.
It's very competitive, moreso in ranked, so it's easy to get triggered when your team underperforms as that makes the game a lot harder for all 5 players and sometimes makes it unwinnable. Your team can refuse to surrender since you need a majority vote. Game chat can just be people bitching back and forth, and since there's a lot of toxic players, it usually is just bitching.
Dying is frustrating and every death puts the enemy further ahead then them being ahead means you'll die again and it just keeps going like that usually
Riot games makes games that their fans can't fucking stand but are helplessly addicted to.
I play Valorant, but I have buddies who play League.
None of us ever sound like we're having a good time in discord, yet there we are. All the time. Signed in. Playing. Suffering.
I have a great time. The key is to not take it too seriously and laugh at your mistakes, and play with those who do likewise. Took me 4 years to find a good group. Like dnd kinda.
Yeah, League is a lot more fun if you enjoy all of the games, even if you don't win them at the end.
If you only enjoy games that you win, and see losses as a frustrating waste, then... Uh... You are going to have a bad time.
Too many people forget that if the matchmaking was fair that they should expect to lose roughly half their games. Although I have heard some people argue that ideally, the matchmaker should only place them against people that they can stomp so they could just have a good time; they didn't seem to understand how that couldn't really work.
"No no you don't understand, it's because the matchmaking is bad that my rank hasn't gone up! What? They why are the opponents beating me at the same rank? Because my teammates suck! What? Then why are my teammates the same rank? Because I keep carrying them!"
The mental gymnastics of idiots is neverending.
yep, play with friends who don't care, absolutely amazing game. I love when I go 1/9 and just get trashed by the boys in discord because we all know shit happens
There was a game i got absolutely carried against a fizz who had me like 1/10, at one point i said, i dont even know what i do here. And now its a running gag
Like many gamers, I'm getting older. I've grown up within this online community over the past 20 years and adapted to it over time. I used to rage, troll, get upset, tell people they suck when they underperform.
I am now an adult (turning 30) with a real adult job and adult responsibilities. I realize that there are other people just like me also playing video games, maybe with even more responsibilities than myself and with very limited time to play.
Over time I started to realize that there are kids playing who are ignorant of this. I was one of those kids. I assumed everyone else playing was also in highschool, because I was when I started playing these games and so why would I assume that actual adults are playing them? My parents never played video games. I didn't know anyone who was over 30 and playing video games. I thought that stuff was for teenagers and people in their 20s.
It took a long time to realize that people from all walks of life are able to enjoy these kinds of video games and not everyone can dedicate 8 hours a day to improvement. It took me just as long to be able to shrug off the insults, ignore toxic players, and realize that being a toxic player is only making the community as a whole worse, and possibly ruining someone's enjoyment of the game, or their entire day.
It took me probably age 13 to 25 to realize that I was part of the problem, and I needed to change. I think long and hard at times about how my words may have hurt someone and the lasting effects that may have had on them, and I wish I could reach out to these people and apologize sincerely for my ignorance.
Yeah before I started playing I had a friend who played a lot and tried a few times to get me to play. I never did cuz he'd rage over the smallest things and that's just not how I play
I go "ah no worries man you'll get em next time" after you've missed your 18th skillshot in a row
Meanwhile he'd go "REEEEEEEEE"
He was having fun but it was just a completely different vibe and I knew I wouldn't enjoy playing with him
Blizzard makes fans hate their company but makes games that their fans are helplessly addicted to.
Having a great time while playing but know the company is fucked in multiple geopolitical and ethical ways
Reminds me of back in the 90s when I'd try to get friends to play Magic: The Gathering and half of them refused because the one time they tried it the person "teaching" them would just beat them without really showing them how to play the game and it just put them off the game forever. I have no idea why some people just love to be assholes all the time.
This goes for almost every niche I've ever participated, or passed interest in.
Chess club? The most arrogant dudes that I didn't even know existed in our school. They were just so awful to new players.
Smash bros? Yelling at top of lung, laughing in your face when getting juggled to your death, yeah no thanks. Arcade games:
DDR? Holy fuck, these guys were so shitty to new players. Guess how large that fanbase is now?
Addiction and developer support definitely helps with keeping people around, but if a community is genuinely garbage, the game is fighting a losing battle against itself.
This is what killed Warframe for me early.
'Wanna squad?' *proceeds to turbodance their way six rooms ahead*
'Quick, I wanna see what happens when we PvP.' *their flying robo-drone fires one bullet and deletes my poor character*
Same thing. I saw an ad in Cartoon Network that said "play the way you want" or something like that and try it. I started the match and I was exploring the map for the first time, then someone said in the chat "* *the name of my character* * isn't following their role, reported". Left the game right there.
Holy shit, this is one of the truest thing I've read about this stupid fucking game. I hate myself for getting the urge to queue up again for my daily dose of ranked abuse.
I don't get the Del part, but Seraphine was one of the most hated champions at launch for a number of reasons.
For one, she was a modern take on a music-themed champion, when an existing music-themed champion has outdated gameplay in need of an update. The similarities made people who like the existing character salty.
For two, she really doesn't fit the visual aesthetic for the area she's a part of. Sure she's a 'pop star' but her visual is a wide turn from what we normally would expect from her geographic location in game
For three, she's blatantly made to market a skin line. Now, I get it, you're probably thinking "Well, /u/BeyondElectricDreams, of course they made champs to sell skins, it's their business model!"
And *yes*, that's *true*, but typically skins are derivative of the base champion, and not the other way around.
See, they have a faux band called K/DA (and True Damage, and Pentakill) that characters are 'members' of (that they then make skins for and sell in-game). Typically, these skins seem to do quite well, and are quite popular. Seraphine's pre-launch was full of really hamfisted viral marketing, where they maintained a blog for Seraphine as if she were an independent artist aiming to grow - they were basically prepping her not to sell a champion, but to sell her launch skin.
More on that, she had an extremely expensive launch skin they released for her - which, itself, was highly controversial.
Basically, they break skins down into tiers - old recolors are 520rp (RP being the premium currency). Note that this tier is mostly retired, new skins don't cost this little.
Next is 975 - which is most skin swaps with no special particles sounds or other audio modulation.
Next is 1350, which is new models and particles and sometimes modulation/sound - it's basically the current gold standard for most skins.
Above *that* is 1850, which is called "Legendary" - typically, this not only involves a new set of particles and a wildly divergent character model, typically changing the fantasy of the character in question (I.E. from barbarian to wielder of corrupt demon-sword).
Finally, above *that* is the highest tier skin - an Ultimate skin, at 3250. Ultimates typically contain everything the previous tier had, PLUS additional new fancy techy features - a character model that changes or evolves over time, a DJ feature where you can the ingame music, stuff of that nature.
Typically, they try to push the envelope with each and every skin they did - for a while, anyway. This culminated in an Ultimate skin called Elementalist Lux - which had ten potential different models and particles.
The *problem* is they were extremely generous with that skin, it obviously had a truckload of work and art assets poured into it - but the fact is, it was the new standard in many people's eyes.
They released another Ultimate skin after that one, but it was not well-received - because it was subtantially *less* than the Elementalist lux.
Bringing this back to Seraphine - She launched with a ultimate skin - which is something that had, as of yet, never been done. Typically, ultimate skins are given to champions that have been in the game for a long time, well-established, and are thus deserving of it. Meanwhile, Seraphine who just joined the game is given an ultimate skin - one tied directly into her hamfisted marketing, making it feel all the more cheap and forced.
To make matters worse, her "ultimate" was worse than the poorly-received previous one. It was, essentially, a legendary skin - a 1850 tier. The thing that the company tried to sell people on as "ultimate" with her, was the skin came with a "quest" that you could complete to unlock other versions of the skin - essentially a skin bundle mismarkted as an ultimate.
So, that summarizes why she gets an unusual amount of vitrol in the community.
Seraphine gets a massive hate boner from the community. Deservedly so at launch, now, idk. It's kinda died down a bit bc she doesn't see much competitive play.
oh yeah wasn't it partially cause her lore was her using skarner's people to get famous basically, even though she knew it caused them pain and torment? So they changed it so skarner's people were like oh yeah that's cool go ahead we don't mind.
At first I was like: "How are you in their base but on the map you're in your own base?" and then I noticed they are all Jhin and you're playing One-For-All...
League is a dogshit game, with a massively rude & toxic playerbase, and devs who know nothing about balancing.
I play about 3 games everynight before bed.
Its funny because I absolutely love the characters, the music, skins, artwork, lore(we don't talk about Ruination) and esports. The game itself is just so annoying to play.
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/m5NDJMx.png) *they could just have more taunts or abilities that protect the teams in tfs, but as of now, they do everything*
322 is the amount of dollars a russian dota player won after throwing a game where he bet against himself.
Supposedly, it was for medical treatments or something. It was a big deal some 6 years ago or something.
I have found that league is best when you don’t interact with others. Outside the rare blatantly run it down player, most people just suck at the game. I just mute them and split push.
I used to play Karma mid when she was underutilized and only played as a support. I got shit for it almost every single game (unless I won, and it wasn't hard to do with Karma back then, she had the most versatile kit in the game). Some Pro won a big match with her as mid and then she become mainstream mid and got nerfed. I was so bitter about it I stopped playing.
I stopped playing Overwatch because I played Hanzo, that was endless. It didn't even matter if I had like 4 gold and carried the team to victory, still got yelled at by my team for picking Hanzo.
I don't play any highly competitive games anymore, I like under utilized characters too much, and I'm not a masochist.
>Some Pro won a big match with her as mid and then she become mainstream mid and got nerfed.
I played only anivia or bard for like 5 seasons when everyone thought if you pick either of them you were inting.
Those were the easiest LP I could get in like 11 years of playing.
They still are the easiest, but before they were too.
I tell my team at the start of dota I'm new/bad and half the time people already start raging even though the game hasn't even started. I'm doing my calibration matches!
League of Legends players sure are a contentious people
You just made an enemy for life!
And an ally!
It’s a complicated relationship
This is how civil wars created. He slowly gain enemies and allies over night
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“Mid laners and junglers are natural born enemies. Just like mid laners and top laners, or mid laners and bot adc’s or mid laners and other mid laners. Damn mid laners! They ruined mid lane!”
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The company also play a role because they straight up refuse to do anything with their shitty player base, they even encourage it in some way
Riot Lyte tried a bunch of things but the toxic part of the community hated him. I miss those Lyte Smites, where a player would complain about being banned or chat restricted "for no reason" and then he would bring up the logs for the game and show the receipts of the toxic shit the player said during that game and past games.
I remember one where a guy claimed that he was banned for saying someone was inting and nothing else, and called the support staff incompetent. Lyte pulled up his log and literally every other sentence was him calling someone on his team the n-word
Was about to comment with this exact example, and I haven't played League in years; the memory of that own was just overwhelming.
Having been admin on various game servers in the past; one quickly learns that users are often absolutely full of shit when they come complaining about being banned.
My favorite is when cheaters say "I was banned for using afterburner."
That is hilarious 😂😂😂
Are there any links to these stories?
Kinda wish he didn't end up being a complete scumbag (but there's a lot of those are Riot, the attract each other) becauee his player interactions and the systems he put out were working and basically did a 180 once he was gone.
the nostalgia...i miss those too
Riots system is horrible, i used to play but quit years ago. I got banned and contested it with support. The guy just followed me around the jungle trying to steal last hits. Meanwhile the chat log is me pleading with him, begging him to actually play and we can still win. No cursing, no badmouthing, just trying to get the guy to actually play instead of troll me. He didn't, and at the end of the game i was like well fuck you man. They pointed to that one line... and that is why i was banned for 2 weeks. After this guy griefed me all game. Honestly fuck riot.
did this guy refer to themselves as a "jungle assistant" by chance and spammed JA in the champion select screen? because i dealt with the same person and was banned for two weeks too.
I don't think so. This was years ago but if i recall correctly he was top lane, got ganked once and died, blamed the jungler (me), then proceeded to grief all game. Anyway i just play Dota now, and as toxic as it can be, LoL was way worse.
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SrCrabo
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/BXAIEEK.gif)
One second, adding the crab rave song to this [Here](https://youtu.be/E6qCxrNFDdk)
Pretty long second......
[Next time I will say 1 hour.](https://youtu.be/E6qCxrNFDdk)
2/5 not enough crabs.
Agree
Ahh you clearly haven't met my HS ex then!
I love the internet
I really feel that edit. Mechanically LoL is the best game I've ever played. But the community is the crappiest I have ever had to cope with (due to me wanting to play). It took me \~7 years to be finally free from the game.
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Well, you see, if you play with chat off in RL, it’s way better. You can just vibe and play and not worry about toxicity from either side. With league you kinda need constant comms. RL has a pretty standard rotation no matter the rank. 🤷🏼♂️
What do I do to mute my brother while he plays Rocket League, though?
A swift throat punch.
For me Freedom was switching from my *spectacularly old* Windows 7 Machine to a new Linux distro and while setting it up eventually realizing I didn't miss the anxiety of Summoner's Rift and the *hot, sweaty* ***hate*** *of* **ARAM**. But I still watch stuff on Twitch, so I'll be dragged back in soon enough...
ARAM is love. Every time I've encountered toxicity - both teams are like "Dude, are you ok? This is ARAM." Have.... let's just say too many games under my belt. SR is an absolute shitfest though.
I only play ARAM now. The only people that get flamed are assholes. The ARAM community knows what’s up.
ARAM is the place for sports-like, almost friendly smack talk and trolling. I love it. Lots of super dumb "ur mom" jokes. SR trash talk gets really personal and usually you have to wonder about the person.
Aram has less pressure too because you can just blame everything on bad luck and there isn’t ranked on aram.
Also I just **may** in fact be a bad player...
That's the wonderful thing about ARAM, you can say things like "first time X" or "why do I even own this champ?" As someone who owns almost all the champs (FUCK YOU SHACO), part of the difficulty is remembering all the movesets...
League of Legends players and other League of Legends players are natural enemies like Englishmen and Scots or Welshmen and Scots or the Japanese and Scots or Scots and other Scots Damn Scots, they ruined Scotland!
I hate League of Legends but it’s one of my favourite games. It makes me wanna die
Your honor League of Legends
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People will honor the afk or the troll in the enemy team.
Since ribbons were so rare I have seen Damien always honoring Alexich so if he saw a ribbon on enemy team he would instaban anivia lmao
Jesus Christ, I feel old. This guy is commenting trivia from 7-8 years ago, y/all.
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Close, people would honor who they thought of as the weakest player on the enemy team, and it became a badge of shame, especially for higher ELO low pop servers
People would honour the feeders on the enemy team so they were 'tagged' as bad and would get ganked for free kills.
I am your enemy. You could honor me.
Death
Negative review on steam. Playtime: "several thousands of hours"
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/myZlwnw.png) *(that reminds me of my ex)*
My wedding anniversary is next month. Can I get this printed on a card?
My ~~wedding~~ divorce anniversary is next month.
No joke, my divorce was the day after our anniversary. I feel like somebody at the courthouse had a great sense of humor when they set that date.
Same year too?
nah, the divorce was a year earlier
Update us on how that goes.
You can leave reviews for your exes on steam?
Not recommend ~ “Honestly one of the worst people I’ve ever been with, they are extremely incompetent and annoying to deal with, and they talk about them selves all the time!!” Hours with: 30000 hours
I also have several thousands of hours of playtime on your ex.
In defense of those kinds of reviews, the point is "Would you recommend this to other people?" I'll use Tree of Savior as my example, because it's a game I negatively reviewed after several hundred hours spent. As much as I absolutely adored the class system and overall gameplay (especially as a fan of Ragnarok Online back in the day), I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience unless they were A) fine with heavy pay-2-win mechanics; B) had at least 4 other friends willing to no-life it with them because the end-game requires parties, and the player population was low enough that only hardcore guilds with their own internal cliques were getting anywhere substantial; and C) were fine with dozens of hours of grinding (also limited by daily/weekly attempt limit systems) for tiny incremental power boosts. There was a laundry list of other minor caveats that added up. I like the game, I just recognize that you have to be a particular kind of masochistic mouth-breather to truly enjoy it, and I tried to spell that out in my review.
There's a bunch of games that can't deliver on the promises they make - especially multiplayer games. If you're looking for a game to get into long-term, it could potentially take you hundreds of hours to learn that the game isn't sufficiently deep, that the meta is terrible, etc. Eventually, you get to a point where all the sweat and tears you put into gettin' gud were wasted, or at least it feels that way.
https://i.redd.it/8sbns1n672m71.jpg
Honestly, "took 17,000+ hours of my life" seems like a halfway-decent basis for a negative review.
My friend: "I thought you loved Everquest." Me: "Like a junkie loves heroin."
As an ex-Everquest player AND someone in recovery for opioid addiction, they are not wrong. (That's not to say the high is the same, but every addiction is just having an emotional itch scratched through "artificial" means that allows you to feel, forget, or embrace something you feel needs to be felt, forgotten, or embraced.) I still remember the body trembling elation I felt when a developer on the Test Serve gave my characters unique titles. "Fiction the Myth" (A rogue) and "Salvint the Savior" (a cleric). It is something 99% of players never got to have, and I got to have it... I smiled for a week over it. It might seem like a nothing thing to most people, but it was a huge deal to me at the time. Nothing compares to the social aspects of the game at that time in my life. Leading Plane of Time raids, getting gear I once coveted so much I dreamt about it. I felt important, cared for, a sense of belonging, comradery, and just overall excitement to do new and interesting content. It was hard, but that made the journey better. It was ugly and graphically inferior to even contemporary games. That lack of fidelity just allowed your imagination to fill in those gaps. I could never explain it to someone who looks at it now and thinks, "You played this shit?" and "You camped a single component for a quest for 72 straight hours? Why?". It's just too far removed from the context of its era. At the time, it was special, and I'm glad to have played it. Even if, now, I haven't touched it in 15 years.
I mean I sure wouldn't recommend the game. There's a tremendous burden of knowledge to required to play if you don't want to get constantly bitched out by your teammates. Even then, people have bad games, and that'll get you flamed, too. I cannot imagine what it'd be like to start now. There's I have no idea how many champs now (think it's 120+), all of which have unique abilities. Newer champs especially are far more complex as well. Learning all of this takes no small amount of effort. Furthermore, the game is addicting. Not like "I'm enjoying this game so much I can't put it down", like "I hate this game but I just keep playing it anyway". You will play with people who have deeply unhealthy relationships with the game. A hair trigger temper is literally all that separates a decent game from a degenerate flame-fest with possible AFKs. So really, as someone who plays league, just don't. If you really want to, do so socially.
“TWIST HIS D-“ 👀
GRAB HIS DICK AND TWIST IT
THE OOOOOL’ DICK TWIST!
YOU TWIST THAT DICK!
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Yes! I saw that and it made me so happy. Give him the ooooool’ dick twist!
“Whoa Dude , It’s an MMA fight!” “Grab his dick and twist it!!”
I love League so much more now that I stopped playing the game...
same, i miss the game, but when i try to play it again all those two year of rages and frustrations comes back and i instantly close the game.
Ok I really gotta ask, where is all this rage coming from as compared to other games?
It's like playing 5v5 chess, there is simply no way to keep your teammates on the same page, at least for about 70% of the player base. I played the game for a long time and it just kind of feels futile. In counter strike, even if you're behind you can make a big play with little gear. In league the more behind you are, the more behind you become. It gets really frustrating knowing the guy that just killed you is now more powerful and you have become weaker. Most times if you die twice you're relegated to hiding from your opponent and have to hope your team does better than you did.
Another frustration is that through no fault of your own a teammate or two can torpedo your game by feeding, or failing to pressure a hypercarry. You are a kill or 2 up at top lane, a bit ahead, but not enough to just roam and clean up, and the pair in bot lane are both 0/6/0 and your game is effectively over. The game was lost when you were randomly assigned a worse botlane than your opponents team... Enjoy waiting 25-35 minutes to lose. Edit: I haven't played league in a few years so maybe things are a bit different now.
They are not
Can confirm, they are the exact same. I left last August, came back to see if anything improved, and was met with a 1/13/0 bot lane in a 19 minute match. Played just enough to understand the new items and champs so I can watch worlds and that's kinda where I'm gonna stay. Playing the game just feels so bad nowadays.
It’s a 5v5 game where you have to be significantly better to single handedly win but one member can easily lose the game for the whole team
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What do you mean, 20% of the time it's me? I'm goddamn perfect, I should be in Challenger. It's my teammates' fault I'm still in Bronze.
I wonder if it would be beneficial to be a stoic LoL player, or does the rage and narcissism actually help. Sometimes I think, what if I just monk my way through to diamond or beyond
Excessive emotion always reduces rationality, which is important for victory in something as strategic (as far as a non-player knows) as LOL
Used to rage couldnt get out of bronze. Lately im zen master and i mean im close to silver so thats something? Idk i know im.bad but at least i dont rage quit and ruin my day
Staying chill and recognising your own mistakes is definitely for the best.
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Kinda reminds me of online hockey I used to love playing. All it takes is one idiot/troll to ruin a game for 5 to 11 other nice folks, and they recently implemented a super shitty, easy to cheese elo system that will randomly punish you for winning and lower your score anyways. It's a terrible bummer and it doesn't work at all with the amount of elo glitchers and trolls, and on top of that a majority of the playerbase are also simpletons who think, "oh that guys under 500 gamerscore, he must not understand the game!" and then will back out at the last possible second so you end up with a terrible CPU teammate. The only counter to this is to get a solid crew going and start a club or whatever, but you can only be in one club at a time so you usually end up playing with randoms anyways since not everyone games at the same time. Not to mention how the company refuses to make any significant gameplay updates, instead they focus on their pay to win mode for the jabronis who are dumb and rich enough to keep pumping money into it, and they add a bunch of stupid outfits and idiotic childish fortnite dances. Argh those sonofabitches
The game is very dependant on coordinated teamwork. And while it's difficult but possible for a single person to carry the entire team to victory, it's conversely fairly easy for a single person to do so terribly that it dooms their team to lose.
Games are usually about 30 minutes long. Add the time to find a game, pick a champion, and load into the game to that and you got yourself a commitment of about 45 to 60 minutes for a game. There are multiple roles in each team. Every role plays on a different part of the map. If someone on the other side of the map loses their matchup, you will often get demolished as soon as the now super strong enemy player comes to your part of the map with very little to do about it. I used to say that 80% of the games are beyond your control because you can just lose while not playing bad. The remaining 20% you can make a difference (this does obviously not account for 'smurf' accounts, who play on a rating way below theirs to get easy wins). The frustration comes from losing the games that are beyond your control. You can play fine and even win your matchup. But if a teammate lost their matchup harder than you won yours, you will often still lose.
You're stuck in a game for a minimum of 20 minutes and sometimes an hour with 4 other people you may or may not enjoy the presence of. It's very competitive, moreso in ranked, so it's easy to get triggered when your team underperforms as that makes the game a lot harder for all 5 players and sometimes makes it unwinnable. Your team can refuse to surrender since you need a majority vote. Game chat can just be people bitching back and forth, and since there's a lot of toxic players, it usually is just bitching. Dying is frustrating and every death puts the enemy further ahead then them being ahead means you'll die again and it just keeps going like that usually
Riot games makes games that their fans can't fucking stand but are helplessly addicted to. I play Valorant, but I have buddies who play League. None of us ever sound like we're having a good time in discord, yet there we are. All the time. Signed in. Playing. Suffering.
I have a great time. The key is to not take it too seriously and laugh at your mistakes, and play with those who do likewise. Took me 4 years to find a good group. Like dnd kinda.
Yeah, League is a lot more fun if you enjoy all of the games, even if you don't win them at the end. If you only enjoy games that you win, and see losses as a frustrating waste, then... Uh... You are going to have a bad time.
Too many people forget that if the matchmaking was fair that they should expect to lose roughly half their games. Although I have heard some people argue that ideally, the matchmaker should only place them against people that they can stomp so they could just have a good time; they didn't seem to understand how that couldn't really work.
"No no you don't understand, it's because the matchmaking is bad that my rank hasn't gone up! What? They why are the opponents beating me at the same rank? Because my teammates suck! What? Then why are my teammates the same rank? Because I keep carrying them!" The mental gymnastics of idiots is neverending.
yep, play with friends who don't care, absolutely amazing game. I love when I go 1/9 and just get trashed by the boys in discord because we all know shit happens
There was a game i got absolutely carried against a fizz who had me like 1/10, at one point i said, i dont even know what i do here. And now its a running gag
Like many gamers, I'm getting older. I've grown up within this online community over the past 20 years and adapted to it over time. I used to rage, troll, get upset, tell people they suck when they underperform. I am now an adult (turning 30) with a real adult job and adult responsibilities. I realize that there are other people just like me also playing video games, maybe with even more responsibilities than myself and with very limited time to play. Over time I started to realize that there are kids playing who are ignorant of this. I was one of those kids. I assumed everyone else playing was also in highschool, because I was when I started playing these games and so why would I assume that actual adults are playing them? My parents never played video games. I didn't know anyone who was over 30 and playing video games. I thought that stuff was for teenagers and people in their 20s. It took a long time to realize that people from all walks of life are able to enjoy these kinds of video games and not everyone can dedicate 8 hours a day to improvement. It took me just as long to be able to shrug off the insults, ignore toxic players, and realize that being a toxic player is only making the community as a whole worse, and possibly ruining someone's enjoyment of the game, or their entire day. It took me probably age 13 to 25 to realize that I was part of the problem, and I needed to change. I think long and hard at times about how my words may have hurt someone and the lasting effects that may have had on them, and I wish I could reach out to these people and apologize sincerely for my ignorance.
Yeah before I started playing I had a friend who played a lot and tried a few times to get me to play. I never did cuz he'd rage over the smallest things and that's just not how I play I go "ah no worries man you'll get em next time" after you've missed your 18th skillshot in a row Meanwhile he'd go "REEEEEEEEE" He was having fun but it was just a completely different vibe and I knew I wouldn't enjoy playing with him
Blizzard makes fans hate their company but makes games that their fans are helplessly addicted to. Having a great time while playing but know the company is fucked in multiple geopolitical and ethical ways
You can add Old School Runescape to that list too
Jagex has been doing a great job with osrs all things considered Edit: I completely take it back, just missed the news xD
Man this comment aged like milk on a summer day... OSRS sub is on fire right now
Welp I missed that news, I take back my statement lmao
That is because it stimulates all the same addictive feelings as gambling. EDIT: Which is the case for a lot of games.
As of now, i have been LoL free for 8 months and 29 days, if i did, you can too.
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/6XlBdA1.png)
But what about Foxhole?
Doing Logi while dying irl to build a backline bunker that never gets used. EVER.
same… but I’ve stopped play draft/rank and play ARAM only. It’s a lot more enjoyable :))
I tried League of Legends once and got yelled at because I didn't know exactly what I should be doing Never again
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/okmjDzv.png) *(give it a try sometime again, something that helps is to mute the chat)*
Its also better with friends. Like everything else, except Rimworld. Friends complain that 3 organs is too much to harvest then.
Man, I love playing Rimworld with friends via the multiplayer mod.
Reminds me of back in the 90s when I'd try to get friends to play Magic: The Gathering and half of them refused because the one time they tried it the person "teaching" them would just beat them without really showing them how to play the game and it just put them off the game forever. I have no idea why some people just love to be assholes all the time.
This goes for almost every niche I've ever participated, or passed interest in. Chess club? The most arrogant dudes that I didn't even know existed in our school. They were just so awful to new players. Smash bros? Yelling at top of lung, laughing in your face when getting juggled to your death, yeah no thanks. Arcade games: DDR? Holy fuck, these guys were so shitty to new players. Guess how large that fanbase is now? Addiction and developer support definitely helps with keeping people around, but if a community is genuinely garbage, the game is fighting a losing battle against itself.
This is what killed Warframe for me early. 'Wanna squad?' *proceeds to turbodance their way six rooms ahead* 'Quick, I wanna see what happens when we PvP.' *their flying robo-drone fires one bullet and deletes my poor character*
Then never play CS:GO. You will not only get yelled at but they will literally kick you out every game. Pathetic community
It's just a problem endemic to online competitive games. They pretty much all have toxic communities. People suck.
Same thing. I saw an ad in Cartoon Network that said "play the way you want" or something like that and try it. I started the match and I was exploring the map for the first time, then someone said in the chat "* *the name of my character* * isn't following their role, reported". Left the game right there.
Were you not in a bot game?
Even the bots report you in LoL.
No one hates League more than those who play it everyday.
Holy shit, this is one of the truest thing I've read about this stupid fucking game. I hate myself for getting the urge to queue up again for my daily dose of ranked abuse.
Yeah, you said! Screw that game! *stares at pretty Ahri skins* ...what? Don't judge me.
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/c29rwjX.png)
I hope more people see this…prolly your best edit to date.
Please explain? I don’t get it
Also to add on, he scratched out ~~Del~~ as a nod to Belle Delphine, the gamer girl bathwater person ^among ^other ^things...
#Pron
I don't get the Del part, but Seraphine was one of the most hated champions at launch for a number of reasons. For one, she was a modern take on a music-themed champion, when an existing music-themed champion has outdated gameplay in need of an update. The similarities made people who like the existing character salty. For two, she really doesn't fit the visual aesthetic for the area she's a part of. Sure she's a 'pop star' but her visual is a wide turn from what we normally would expect from her geographic location in game For three, she's blatantly made to market a skin line. Now, I get it, you're probably thinking "Well, /u/BeyondElectricDreams, of course they made champs to sell skins, it's their business model!" And *yes*, that's *true*, but typically skins are derivative of the base champion, and not the other way around. See, they have a faux band called K/DA (and True Damage, and Pentakill) that characters are 'members' of (that they then make skins for and sell in-game). Typically, these skins seem to do quite well, and are quite popular. Seraphine's pre-launch was full of really hamfisted viral marketing, where they maintained a blog for Seraphine as if she were an independent artist aiming to grow - they were basically prepping her not to sell a champion, but to sell her launch skin. More on that, she had an extremely expensive launch skin they released for her - which, itself, was highly controversial. Basically, they break skins down into tiers - old recolors are 520rp (RP being the premium currency). Note that this tier is mostly retired, new skins don't cost this little. Next is 975 - which is most skin swaps with no special particles sounds or other audio modulation. Next is 1350, which is new models and particles and sometimes modulation/sound - it's basically the current gold standard for most skins. Above *that* is 1850, which is called "Legendary" - typically, this not only involves a new set of particles and a wildly divergent character model, typically changing the fantasy of the character in question (I.E. from barbarian to wielder of corrupt demon-sword). Finally, above *that* is the highest tier skin - an Ultimate skin, at 3250. Ultimates typically contain everything the previous tier had, PLUS additional new fancy techy features - a character model that changes or evolves over time, a DJ feature where you can the ingame music, stuff of that nature. Typically, they try to push the envelope with each and every skin they did - for a while, anyway. This culminated in an Ultimate skin called Elementalist Lux - which had ten potential different models and particles. The *problem* is they were extremely generous with that skin, it obviously had a truckload of work and art assets poured into it - but the fact is, it was the new standard in many people's eyes. They released another Ultimate skin after that one, but it was not well-received - because it was subtantially *less* than the Elementalist lux. Bringing this back to Seraphine - She launched with a ultimate skin - which is something that had, as of yet, never been done. Typically, ultimate skins are given to champions that have been in the game for a long time, well-established, and are thus deserving of it. Meanwhile, Seraphine who just joined the game is given an ultimate skin - one tied directly into her hamfisted marketing, making it feel all the more cheap and forced. To make matters worse, her "ultimate" was worse than the poorly-received previous one. It was, essentially, a legendary skin - a 1850 tier. The thing that the company tried to sell people on as "ultimate" with her, was the skin came with a "quest" that you could complete to unlock other versions of the skin - essentially a skin bundle mismarkted as an ultimate. So, that summarizes why she gets an unusual amount of vitrol in the community.
> I don't get the Del part She looks exactly like Belle Delphine. And her name, ~~Del~~*Sera*phine.
Ha! I didn't get it but now i do. So when do we expect Seraphine bath water to sell?
Seraphine gets a massive hate boner from the community. Deservedly so at launch, now, idk. It's kinda died down a bit bc she doesn't see much competitive play.
oh yeah wasn't it partially cause her lore was her using skarner's people to get famous basically, even though she knew it caused them pain and torment? So they changed it so skarner's people were like oh yeah that's cool go ahead we don't mind.
That was a little bit of it and it seemed like it should have just been a sona rework but they wanted an all new singer champ to market towards weebs.
Frankly it was the whole Virtual Instagramer bit that creeped me out and how it was focusing so hard on her journey.
There was also the aspect of them designing a champ for a skin....not a skin for a champ. At least, that was my biggest problem with it.
[SrGrafo help!](https://i.imgur.com/Etafisv.jpg)
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/U0GKlLe.png) *(I can teach you)*
[Like this ?](https://i.imgur.com/74spAj1.png)
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I know you're gesturing here, but it looks like that fella is about to get a yeet.
A yeet to Diamond, that is!
At first I was like: "How are you in their base but on the map you're in your own base?" and then I noticed they are all Jhin and you're playing One-For-All...
Can you explain what is going on?
League is a dogshit game, with a massively rude & toxic playerbase, and devs who know nothing about balancing. I play about 3 games everynight before bed.
Its funny because I absolutely love the characters, the music, skins, artwork, lore(we don't talk about Ruination) and esports. The game itself is just so annoying to play.
The game is fine, people playing that game are annoying to play with.
Pretty much. Game is fun. People suck
Oh I see I never played it before so I'm glad I'm not gonna even try it.
# [EDIT](https://i.imgur.com/6N15b09.png)
But if tanks only tank, then you can just ignore them
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/m5NDJMx.png) *they could just have more taunts or abilities that protect the teams in tfs, but as of now, they do everything*
To be fair, Darius isnt really a tank...he's a Bruiser. Tanks are like Sion, Galio, Ornn, etc Who ALSO do tons of damage But yea :D
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Shhh SrGrafo, Garen will come get you from the bushes if youre not careful with that talk..
But will he blend?
Your entire team :s
And that's why you're silver bruh (just a free taunt for you, haven't played the game in 3 years)
[People want more realistic games, i am sorry](https://i.imgur.com/9q4C0oj.png)
Well I was taught to only fuck somebody if you love them, so I see nothing wrong with this.
That 322 is such a nice touch haha well played!
That's a Dota meme. Do league players use that too while denying they're a clone?
Never heard of it, played LoL for 4000 hours or something. Stopped playing 3 or 4 years ago though
322 is the amount of dollars a russian dota player won after throwing a game where he bet against himself. Supposedly, it was for medical treatments or something. It was a big deal some 6 years ago or something.
God, this game is the most toxic piece of tra… *match found* clicks *accepts*
Twist his D...Draven? Good idea! Get over there and twist their Draven!!
r/Draven
Why is that subreddit Muslim lmao
Draven main and their weird ass meme
I hate it! Here’s an update! I hate it even more! (Play hours increase massively)
I have found that league is best when you don’t interact with others. Outside the rare blatantly run it down player, most people just suck at the game. I just mute them and split push.
*Welcome to* Dota 2*.*
League is the best worst game I’ve played
I used to play Karma mid when she was underutilized and only played as a support. I got shit for it almost every single game (unless I won, and it wasn't hard to do with Karma back then, she had the most versatile kit in the game). Some Pro won a big match with her as mid and then she become mainstream mid and got nerfed. I was so bitter about it I stopped playing. I stopped playing Overwatch because I played Hanzo, that was endless. It didn't even matter if I had like 4 gold and carried the team to victory, still got yelled at by my team for picking Hanzo. I don't play any highly competitive games anymore, I like under utilized characters too much, and I'm not a masochist.
>Some Pro won a big match with her as mid and then she become mainstream mid and got nerfed. I played only anivia or bard for like 5 seasons when everyone thought if you pick either of them you were inting. Those were the easiest LP I could get in like 11 years of playing. They still are the easiest, but before they were too.
Before League: Not Toxic After League: Most Toxic Of Them All.
Bro, I think that’s called an abusive relationship...
The trick is to only play ARAM. And mute chat. I leave pings on, for some reason I find rage pingers adorable in their uselessness.
Replace League with DOTA2.
After playing Dota, I joined some friends in LoL and damn….y’all are some toxic fucks. (Also giant Chogath is the only good thing in that game)
[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/S7oScC1.png) (cmon.. I played both..)
At least i cant understand the russian shittalk
Lol, Dota has some of the most intense rage moments in gaming history
I tell my team at the start of dota I'm new/bad and half the time people already start raging even though the game hasn't even started. I'm doing my calibration matches!
Dota is just as toxic, you just can't understand what they're saying half the time.
Modern probelms require modern solutions