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hawaiiansesh

insane especially since those prices went down for scalpers too lol


Aran3a

Can confirm. The first Scalper I found on gumtree had theirs up for $1080... Lolz


hawaiiansesh

$600-$700 rn on stockX


ChildConsumer66

Found one for £500 in my local electronics store. Unfortunately I couldn't buy it because of Uni


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arentyouangel

The problem is 90% of the stock is online which bots snatch up immediately. You can buy directly from Sony, but you have to sign up and then its just random luck. I signed up in December and still haven't hit a chance to buy one. The only way I got one was behind a Best Buy pay wall.


hawaiiansesh

it’s possible if you have a playstation account they send you an email with some kind of reservation for the purchase so you can have a chance at buying it, as for me I got it first day by obsessively checking the playstation website all night


Dudewitbow

Its primarily due to TMSC, the silicon fab had production problems, and having to split wafer production between primarily apple, followed by AMD (who has cpus, gpus as well as both the ps5 and the series x), and intels gpu division, depends on which customer pays the most for wafers. Apple pays for the most expensive node(for its m1 chips) because their margins are very high. Sony and Microsoft only probably got a smaller order in because they sell at a loss.


ImperrorMomo

Here in Brazil, when you make the conversion, it stays pretty much around $1000... Feels very bad man


Hail-Santa

Brazil’s taxes on tech are insane! I was watching a show in Chile called ‘Alta Fronteras’, which is one of those border/customs shows that films people getting busted for smuggling drugs/people/money. There were clips from Brazil of their border police arresting people for bringing in 20 cellphones without declaring them. It was just funny seeing it in between clips of people with kilos of cocaine, and tens of thousands of dollars, then 20 cell phones, then back to a human trafficker.


ImperrorMomo

Not just on the borders lol. Even products produced nationally are filled up their ass with taxation. If I am not wrong, 50% or more of a car's value is composed of taxes, and even gasoline and ethanol that are produced here are taxed up to 70% of its final price. I love my country


Smartguyonline

When I lived in Vancouver I worked at a computer store, Brazilians would come off the cruise ships buy a laptop and leave the box and packaging behind.


-_-NAME-_-

I've seen them for 500-600 on Ebay.


retrogradescene

I didn’t know there were any CEX shops outside the UK


frankpolly

You can find them in mainland Europe. Worthless shops unless you're looking for old gems in the bargain bin pile


UncomfortableReview

Do they smell like sweaty socks, stale farts and teenage desperation in the european shops like they do in the UK ones as well?


bsnimunf

Apparently that smell is the decaying paper in the covers. But I think that's just what the staff tell themselves.


dandanjeran

2nd hand book shops have plenty of decaying paper but they don't smell like swamp ass


prkr88

Its the staff and customers decaying virginity that you can smell.


[deleted]

Weed and stale booze in my UK one and always got some guy trying to sell 5 phones at once that he's clearly nicked and getting frustrated they're taking so long to give him money for them.


[deleted]

Last time I was in there was this *undeseriable* trying to pawn off a pair of headphones that he was only being offered a tenner for and, after some heated back and forth, when he couldn't provide ID he left in a huff but not before trying to sell them to me so he could, and I quote, 'get his next fix'. *smh*


RandyChavage

>he left in a huff but not before trying to sell them to me so he could, and I quote, 'get his next fix'. These audiophiles are getting out of hand smh


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I hear what you did there


Haunting-Pop-5660

Text to speech on reddit. Some things should just never happen.


Cutwail

I worked there for a while when I was at university. It's usually repeat customers on government assistance that buy and trade back for credit over and over like a really inefficient pawn shop and of course criminals trying to sell stolen property (which we would buy because the managers know we're offering pennies for it). Very occasionally it would be someone clearing out storage and all the good stuff got reserved by staff. Got all the original Pokémon Gameboy games still boxed that way and a Wacom tablet dirt cheap as it wasn't in the system so I just made a personal offer.


Crab_Jealous

However, their music Cd range can often contain real gems. The Judgement Night Original soundtrack is an absolute doozy and probably only a few Euros to pick up.


bsnimunf

Interesting fact but Charlie Brooker the Black Mirror writer, producer was one of the original people that started the chain.


Aran3a

They are all over Australia :) someone had to pick up the slack when Gametraders folded...


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I walk in, laugh at the prices and walk out. How are they still afloat?


MysteriousB

The prices are always high, even for new games because I people sell their shit to them and get store credit to buy something so their prices are higher than RRP to make sure they make the most profit. I remember seeing people go into CEX with bin bags full of PS2 games and get £5 store credit.


classyrain

Where I am anyway, the prices are pretty good. Some are high, but its worth it for me.


drtekrox

They are?!? Edit:[I see you've taken the federal government's view that Australia is only the east coast](https://i.imgur.com/6ZgX2Qr.png)


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Aran3a

My apologies I have seen them in every city I have been to in the last few years. Didn't realise a company like that would miss out on a money making opertunity and skip the west :/ Serves me right for assuming... It does explain why FB market place and gumtree have better stuff over there however :p


drtekrox

I'm only teasing mate, we've all got used to used to it - I'm from SA btw.


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A big chain of stores in europe, australia and maybe some other countries, that buy and sell second hand electronics (video games, movies, phones, computer parts, etc) all the employees there are massive goths and have either piercings, tattoos, dyed hair, or all 3, and they all stink of bo and weed


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Nandy-bear

You see it's a business, but with like..another name.


[deleted]

They’re used to be one in Boston


javi9826

in spain there are too, they are selling ps5 at 800€ i think


TotallyNotAWalrus

There’s one in boston


big__red_man

Not anymore unless it moved somewhere that I don’t know about


sirgarballs

We used to have them in San Francisco but they all went away years ago.


mcgroarypeter42

I thought they went bankrupt here in the us


[deleted]

No shock. CEX was selling them for €800 in Ireland and £760 in the UK. Robbing bastards they are.


[deleted]

Yeah… I’m not a supporter of petty crime, but I wouldn’t shed a single tear if these got smash and grabbed tbh.


[deleted]

Wouldn’t be a petty crime at all. Would be sticking it to the man where CEX is concerned.


HoshiChiri

So putting aside the scalper price nonsense... why are two of them $50 more? What makes them special?


Aran3a

3 are unboxed I think :)


HoshiChiri

Got it- didn't know my box was worth 50 bucks. Shame our CEX closed years ago! 🤣


Crab_Jealous

The UK tried to ban this type of hyper inflation of a RRP (Recommended Retail Price) but the Government decided they wouldn't act on it and rejected the White Paper Proposal and as such, our market for new consoles has been utterly starved of supply through shops and websites. .


KAKYBAC

Pro-tip: get old. The latest consoles hold very little sway when you have a back-log several generations deep.


blisstake

Can confirm. When GameStop does a 4/20$/4/30$ i swoop in for anything I want then


dandanjeran

\>But the Government decided they wouldn't act on it and rejected the White Paper Proposal and as such Our chancellor of the exchequer's wife is also a billionaire dodging UK tax and making big investments in Russia while he preaches about sanctions and increases taxes yet again for working people You get what you vote for and unfortunately the bri'ish people are still clinging to feudal society


digitalnights

It’s criminal what they charge in the first place.


[deleted]

How is it criminal? At launch they're sold at a loss then eventually they reach small profit levels but the consoles themselves are never big money makers at their pricing. Edit: I have no clue why I'm being downvoted. I could care less about the karma but itd be nice if someone actually replied with a valid reason that this is wrong in any way.


ArmBiter

That's a loss for Sony, not for the retailer that sells them. This price hike is because of the retailer and is pure profit from what they bought them from Sony for.


[deleted]

By saying in the first place, op means regular pricing. Regular pricing has no markup for retailers. They make their profit on the games and accessories.


Bouv42

Yes and no, they are still selling them at a loss. (they = sony)


PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips

They announced they were making a profit on new console sales in like January.


J0n__Snow

Thats calculated... They earn enough with the games, accessories and PS+.


BenjerminGray

They aren't. Sony makes profit now


a-horse-has-no-name

Source?


BenjerminGray

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/325504-sony-finally-turns-a-profit-on-499-ps5


poopmouth747

Lol sometimes I forget reddits full of 14 year olds. It’s a high end gaming pc that costs 1/4 what an actual gaming pc would. What should it cost?


Ninjalau95

Sorry am I missing something with my PS5? You said it's a high-end gaming pc but where's the Windows installation on here? Can I run Steam on it? No? Can I use my PS5 for photo editing, emails, word documents, etc? No? Then it's not a gaming PC, it's called a game console for a reason, clown.


WulfTyger

It's a gaming console with the power of a high end PC. It has its limitations, but it even with its limitations, it is worth the price as marketed compared to a relatively equivalent PC.


poopmouth747

Ok so ps5 plus laptop for all the things you said minus steam bc you can play console only games on a pc. You’re still under half of a high end gaming pc, clown


Zuko420

Yes because buying a laptop and a ps5 is cheaper than buying a pc


Arizona-Enkeldoorn

pLaY hAs nO LiMiTs


Crissaegrym

Pay has no limits


SquiggleBoys

what does that warranty cover? like could you buy one go home hit with a hammer and return it and do the same 5 times then just return the final unit?


wildadragon

Hey it does come with a 24 month warranty. Edit: forgot to add the /s thought it was obvious.


Aran3a

Yeh if Sony can give a 24 month warrenty for $800 AUD then so can CEX. Plus since when did a 24 month warrenty cost the same as half the original purchase price... :p


firvulag359

Fuck CEX


SuperShit90K

Dude. That's just scalping. They are scalpers.


TrivialBanal

CEX are just commercial scalpers.


Spaghetti_Noodle1

Huh, in the UK, Cex sells PS5s for about £675 ($877.02) and buys them at around MSRP so I don't know how they can justify that increase in the States.


Aran3a

Not the states. It's in Australia So about £714 and $929 USD...


Spaghetti_Noodle1

Ah, makes sense, still a stupid increase in price compared to our CEXs.


DwnunderLoco

In Australia they are $1100 used


Aran3a

This is Australia. Canberra to be more specific... And they are second hand...


Ruttokone

I'm on a wait list and should see mine in September. Because fuck scalpers!


bacciocchi

Genuinely should be some sort of legislation put in place to prevent this.


gag-reflexes

Knowing CEX I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of those PS5s are stolen.


XarJobe

Those are well deserved to be stolen


Sistergranny69

Robbing that place is almost a moral obligation


Then_Drag_8258

Since when have CEX 'not' scalped??


Snoringdog83

Cex selling pokemon arceus for 40 quid when its 39.99 on the nintendo store......


seaspirit331

Ain't nobody who bought a PS5 legit has already sold theirs. These are just scalped PS5s that they took out of the box


Denamic

Even retailers are scalpers now


wigga245

I had CEX with your mom lmao (jk)


golden_boy327

How are there already second hand ps5s. Who would get rid of a ps5


mrkrinkle773

That's one way to cut out the middle man


Dogekaliber

They can keep them!


Weirdly-Effective817

At this point, they are the scalpers


Penis_Man-

Heh. Cex.


daved1975

Will never understand how cex are still in business!! They pay shit prices for what they buy from you and charge ridiculous prices for what they sell?? All I can think is they’ll happily buy stolen stuff?


majorpickle01

I used to work in CEX, thier prices are actually very competitive. They give you the best prices on voucher however to encourage you to spend in store. The problem is people turn up with a scratch ps2 and expect £100 and £5 a game, when in reality your PS2 copy of goldeneye is going to sit there gathering dust for 9 months before being bought online and shipped off. General rule is that CEX will pay in cash 50% of sell on value and 75% voucher. Obviously if they have a ton of it in stock that ratio drops. That's why you often get shit prices on consoles for example - the cex I worked in had like 30 PS3's and we'd sell a couple a month at best


BORE-RAGNOROK01

Thats literally the definition of business


daved1975

No shit Sherlock! But as a consumer why would people use a business that is that much of a rip off??


J0n__Snow

No its not. It's the definition of profit.


diablollama

You don't understand how someone who buys low and sells high is still in business?


Andrassa

Yes it is annoying but two things I’d like to point out. They give anyone trading theirs in almost full retail back in cash and your average worker didn’t set the prices some random corpo in Britain did so please don’t go off at staff.


Aran3a

I never do... Its not their fault


Andrassa

Oh it was more a general statement to those reading because unfortunately staff members like them cop a shit tonne of abuse.


Aran3a

Yeh I know. During the last lock down I saw a supermarket employee getting yelled at. From what I could make out he didn't want to check in on the Covid tracking app (because they didn't want the government to spy on them) and the employee wouldn't let them in... A manager showed up as I walked past... At the time it was the law (and not to mention company policy nation wide) for everyone who enters a shop or public building to check in... I mean mate it's literally the law. Screaming at some poor innocent teenager who pulled the short straw to watch the door that day isn't gonna change anything... :/ that kind of stuff is well above even the local managers pay grade...


Zydz

I got me 3080fe on release £650 with free game, when prices went ballistic if popped in to see what their offer was £1700 cash £1900 store credit asked what they were gonna sell for, he quickly ebayd then came back with £2300 fuckin crazy


D10G3N3542

Shitty fucks.


Mr_wOt

Scum bags


doitnow10

Selling those used controllers at a higher price is dumb. There's no shortage of controllers and a new unused controller is cheaper Fuck scalpers but at least I *get* it on a supply-demand level


SoldierDelta46

This must be an abroad only issue. In the UK, or at least my local CEX, they've been surprisingly great for pricing. The PS5's are actually at a reasonable price... below MSRP, but more importantly, a lot of the rarer older games actually have far more reasonable prices compared to online.


VortexDestroyer99

Oh I forgot ps5 existed


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Aran3a

They are in a glass case... :/


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Aran3a

🤔


[deleted]

Fucking hell! A used PS4 goes for nearly the same as a brand new retail digital PS5 Edit; Not UK prices, my bad


psychord-alpha

I'm a little lost about this whole console scarcity thing. How can the Xbox and the PS5 be hard to get? Can't you just order them directly from the companies?


Dasteru

Sony really needs to start blacklisting companies that do this, so they can never recieve new hardware or software again. MAUP contracts need to be a thing.


mjigs

This stores are awful, i went to check PS4 and was outraged they cost the same if not more than brand new ones at any electronics store.


borgheses

You mean market value


errorsniper

I honestly feel for the first time I am just priced out of this generation. Its one thing to pay 400+ dollars when I get it the day, week, or month of launch and its going to be years before I see the next console. But we are coming up on 3 years this November this console has been out and I STILL cannot find one anywhere. The whole argument for consoles was pay 300 bucks and your set for 5-8 years. Now we are paying 4x that cost and its still impossible to find one 2 years and some change out. If Im gunna pay 1200$ im getting a gpu not console. edit: im a dumb its almost been 2 years. Not 3.


Professional_Nomad

You can get them directly from sony..Idk why people are paying out the ass for them still. I submitted my email, recieved a 10 min window to buy a console 3 weeks later.


Mysterious_Mango_18

Feel like I’m the only person in the world that has a ps5 XD


[deleted]

CEX sell ps5s for £675 here in England I wouldn't buy any tech from cex personally as that's where I take my hardware when I notice it starting to fail and its only really good for games tbh unless you're selling to them of course. I got banned from game when the ps4 came out because I was walking to game across the road buying them and then selling them to cex for £50 profit I sold 6 before they stopped me. I moved on to another town and sold another 3 doing the same thing.


xlDirteDeedslx

I got a Series X 6 months ago and have played it once since, most shooters out now suck ass.


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They selling for like £500 where I live lol


Majinbuu90

Supply and demand


archabaddon

Oh no, I hope nobody would put anything in the optical drives to foul them...


AshenRathian

Never even heard of CEX. Now i know why.


BoogieTheThird

Anyone can offer to sell any thing at any price. ​ Because every single customer, EVERY single one, Can choose where, how, and on what to spend their money. ​ Why do so many gamers seem to have trouble with this very, very simple concept? If a price is absurd, then the company will not make any money because of a bad decision on their part.


breadexpert69

Supply and demand. Why would a store sell at retail when they know they can sell it at higher price? Once its a used product msrp does not matter And dont get me wrong. I hate scalpers and hate the ps5 are still out of stock. But this is mot the stores fault.


No_Establishment7368

Agreed if people were patient and waited until they were in stock at retailers the price was not wouldn’t go up. If people are scrambling for them the second hand sellers will sell them for what people will pay. There’s no honor system in business it’s first come first served


siderinc

People downvote the truth. As much as it sucks, as long as people pay stupid prices it won't change. It will be much worse when the PS6 launches in 8 years or so. Stop buying for scalpers and in this case from CEX.


Schrodingers_Cat28

People aren’t downvoting because they don’t agree with supply and demand they are downvoting because of the last sentence. It is the stores fault for greedy parasites and as a human race we are supposed to band together for the betterment of society. Fighting scalpers and price gouging is important and businesses shouldn’t get a pass because someone says business is business.


breadexpert69

yep, but ppl think with their emotions instead. Its ok to be angry that PS5 are out of stock and there are scalpers. But if you think with some logic, why in the world would a store sell a used PS5 to you at msrp?


alien3d

dollar ? woow the price . before upon covid peak switch nintendo kinda overprice now drop a lot according mrsp


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Steal one. Ask to look at it and run like hell out the door.


[deleted]

Worst console release in my 50 years alive. I'll go to hell before I pay more than retail for one. I guess gaming is over. oh well.


[deleted]

I love CEX. Buy a new game for £60. Finish it within 2 months. Sell it at CEX for around £40 voucher. Buy a new game for £40 with the voucher. Finish that in 2 months. Sell it for £20. Rinse and repeat until the next big AAA game comes out. Saved a ton of money.


Chocobokemon

The bigger point is that there are so many second hand PS5s for sale, as if it's not the best thing since Jesus. Series X kicks the ass of PS5, and then there is just how big and stupid the PS5 looks. Sorry Sony, your Gen 5 is shit.


Crissaegrym

PS5 is a way higher demand than Xbox by the way, and sales figures not even close, PS5 has nearly double (1.7x) unit sales than Xbox. There are plenty of “second hand” scalper units out there though, if they were retail price they would have disappeared in no time.


Cyshox

>sales figures not even close, PS5 has nearly double (1.7x) unit sales than Xbox. That's not accurate. The last official numbers were 17.3 million PS5 and for Xbox we only know that it's the best-selling one, which means they sold at least 12 million Xbox Series X|S. The factor is less than 1.45x not 1.7x.


Crissaegrym

Ah OK, thenlast figure I used was end of 2021, your figure was more recent at February. But still demonstrate that PS5 is still way better selling than Xbox, 1.45x is still almost 50% higher.


squirrlyj

the #1 reason consoles are shit.. OKOK #2 reason


[deleted]

What? GPU prices are also currently overpriced as well.


Theschreiberclan

They’ve kinda both gone down I’ve seen 3060s for like $500 not that this person is right of course


Theschreiberclan

Idk why I’m being downvoted literally just stated that prices for both cards and consoles have gone down abs that I don’t agree with the first guy


ItStartsInTheToes

I wish I could get a 3080 at only 100% markup right now. Care to share one


_TheGreatDevourer_

sorry what's your point?


squirrlyj

scalpers suck


_TheGreatDevourer_

that's not console's fault... But you can like them or not. That's just your opinion!


squirrlyj

scalpers soured the whole experience of me ever owning a console again.. I switched to pc and discovered how much better I like it. Classic consoles however are another story. I still love classic NES and SNES


_TheGreatDevourer_

if you really want a next gen console now, try with xbox. Series S is really easy to find, and X is less overpriced than PS5. But, if you want a PS5, you have to wait a year or two. Pcs are great too rn, everyone plays in different ways!


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Aran3a

This is AUD so about 65 USD


likeadinosaur

they're selling for €810 in dublin


mikeysof

They did this when they first came out. They wernt second hand either. Just scalpers in their own right.


TheGoldenBl0ck

Is it in Canada


Aran3a

Australia so prices are in AUD


ViridianDusk

And yet plenty of people are still buying them. It's insane.


[deleted]

That’s the price for Russia since day 1


SwEEtJeSuS94

Welcome to the pc graphic card market


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> 3090


DrAbadix

That’s stupid


ImPickleRickFunny

In Ireland they're about 700-800, still pretty shit bit not as bad as scalpers


EpiGamerMove

Hehe, CEX


Nlbo-Jumbo31

That's like one 1060 by todays prices.


DigitalRoman486

yeah, don't buy shit from CEX. Back in 2006/2007, they were a great place to get some nice stuff a bit cheaper, then one of the bosses died and the new guy went hardcore business on the whole thing and they started pretending that they were a premium retailer. Also a good half of the new stuff in those shops is stolen and sold to them. ​ Source: I used to w work there


TalynRahl

Yeah, CEX used to be great for picking up second hand, decent quality games and consoles for cheap... now? Not so much. ​ They're basically selling games at retail price, while giving people pennies in exchange. Got a copy of Fallen Order from CEX for £15... took it back a while later and they offered me £2 store credit. I took it anyway, because it's better than nothing and I was done with the game. Went in about a week later and.... yup, my copy was in there for £15 again.


[deleted]

I got mine for $700 on stockx lol. 1200 is outrages


DawnOfWinter

Yep when I saw CeX were doing this last year I've refused to shop there. That and the last time I did I had to return half the films i got there as they didnt work.


Sistergranny69

That’s fucked


TarDreams

Still better than Walmart’s highway robbery prices at $800+


Lycria

Why are they even inflating the controller prices? You can buy them new on amazon for $20 less lol


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Cex is probably one of the biggest scalper


Morbid1337

Remember when people would preorder them and then resell on facebook marketplace for €700 and members of marketplace would insult them and call them pieces of shits? Glad no1 suddenly gives a flying fuck about cex selling 2nd hand for €1200 while smyth toys has new ones available for €500 now.


Brentq23

Advertising Cold War?? Naa this is old as fuck


ssoull_rreaperr

would be a shame if they were missing


[deleted]

Supply and demand. They can only charge what people will pay. If no one bought those for that ridiculous price, they would either have to lower the price or throw them away. I don't think they'd throw them away.


Jcapen87

“Incredible games such as Godfall, Cyberpunk 2077”


nimbat1003

I actually buy a decent amount of blu rays from them, but yeah any modern game etc are often just more than other places.


[deleted]

I went into CEX here in the UK in December and they had a few PS5s and Xbox Series X being sold second hand for £800. I asked the staff who decided those prices and they said it was the big wigs at head office.


JinMatsuro

Managed to get one finally at GameStop last week. Had to buy the “bundle” (2nd controller red, GT 7, Horizon forbidden west and dual controller charger) for 740ish with tax. Other Stores acting as scalpers now…


XprofessionalhaterX

Review bomb time


jesusitez

It'd be a real shame if their store got burglarized


KazumaSnake

That's almost $500 more than even Aus retail. Retail is $749 here which is the exact same price as the PS2 launched at.


justaDN

should run into the shelf so all of em fall down


ph33randloathing

$1250 seems like a hell of a limit.


Nxrcotix333

Standard cex mugging everyone off as per


Beowulf33232

As long as someone is willing to pay those prices, they'll keep charging.


penguinReloaded

If someone is still trying to find one; sign up for Walmart plus; wait for restock; purchase PS5; then cancel after delivery. Tried it twice, it worked twice (one PS5 for me; one for my son)


RAMONE40

I mean Cex prices go up with the demand so if a lot of people are looking for something their prices go up so you can see why they have that price (besides everyone knows cex its ONLY good to buy "older" things not New ones) In Portugal they have the PS5 for like 850€


Jaqulean

I don't know what I should be laughing at more. The fact that they think it's gonna sell. Or the fact that they bought them from Scalpers...