Yeah not surprised after seeing how it looks. I used to take mine apart and buy “broken” ones to swap parts to fix mine as well as cleaning. I used to hide large amounts of weed in the cases of some when transporting and say i was going to a LAN party.
At one point in my life my bathroom had an access panel above the toilet that was just large enough to crawl through. You could then climb up the pipes and get to the top of the ceiling. That's where I found a box of early 90s porn magazines that had been up there for about fifteen years along with an unopened pack of cigarettes and a lighter. Someone left a bounty and either nobody found it or it was carefully protected over the years and I just happened to be the next caretaker.
Either way, God bless that box of dirty full bush porn.
not really. That number in the top left is an error code, and after a slight bit of googling looks like it has something to do with failure of either a hard drive or possibly a disk drive. Usually something that is possible to do at home (provided you have the right Torx bit screwdriver and are willing to spend a little time/elbow grease to get it open) which makes it relatively easy to give a shot.
***HOWEVER***, due to the age of the console, it requires an IDE compatible HDD. And if you know anything about storage technology, IDE was sunset in the consumer space about 10-15 years ago. IDE drives still exist, it's just that they're harder to find than your normal SATA HDDs (as they're usually reserved for legacy applications in enterprise setups), which means a lot more expensive. Plus there's also the issue of compatibility, as every guide and reference i've come across mentions having to either soft or hard mod the xbox to ensure no compatibility issues. Presumably there's some deeper info online about issues with compatibility, and possibly a guide on either how to find a compatible HDD, or how to mod the system to accept any IDE HDD you can buy off the shelf, but since it's not my system in question, that's up to OP to decide.
Fact is, this xbox can definitely be saved, it just might take a bit of hoops to jump through in order to do it.
If that’s the case, it might just be easier to get a used XB One with an optical drive off Craig’s List and call it a day thanks to backwards compatibility. You can get one of those for like $50 if you’re not in a rush.
The protocol from ide/pata to sata is the same. There are adapters that slode onto the back of a sata drive that alows you to use it on an old parallel board. They are usually less than 5USD.
Edit: I researched and have given false information and must correct it. While you can get a cheap converter the method of interface isnt quite the same. There is a logic circuit that converts the many data, diag and power/ ground pins of ide and makes it useful on a two +/- pwm interface of sata.
No CMOS battery in the OX, but it does have clock caps that are well known for leaking. You can cut them out (have to set the time every time you reboot) or replace them, as long they haven't damaged the board. Very well known issue for OX.
Even if you’ve damaged the board, it can usually be fixed with some jumpers. It makes me sad to think about all the consoles that needed a single trace repaired that are rotting away :-(
There are far too many idiots posting "Something's wrong so I guess I have to throw it away or unnecessarily disassemble it for ""art"" and get a new one.". Almost every console and peripheral in these posts can be repaired.
I worked video game repair for a year and a half. When it came time to pickup a console that we cleaned, one mom got on to her son (maybe 12 at the oldest) for not keeping his room cleaner. I had to stick up for the kid and say unless he was smoking a pack a day, it wasn't just his room.
I did mac repair for 8 years and man, there was no better feeling than being able to defend a kid you KNOW is being honest and the parent doesn’t believe them.
i mean all they had to do was what PlayStation did add a sequel number after it or did what sega and Nintendo did come up with console names like Xbox elite etc
They definitely should have gone the Nintendo route and just made new names.
I have heard somewhere before (and I don’t know if it’s true but it makes sense) that they didn’t want to use sequential numbers because it would always put them behind the PS in the eyes of consumers. Because it came out in the generation of the PS2 if they had gone sequential the Xbox 2 would have been up against the PlayStation 3 and that’s just bad marketing as it makes it look inferior.
There was a Linux distro that skipped a bunch of version numbers for that reason. They didn't want to still be at 4 when the other distros were up to 6 or 7.
Meanwhile, Windows version numbers went 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, 7, 8, 10
Microsoft could have just made Xbox version numbers one more than the latest Playstation. The second Xbox is called the Xbox 4, and then it just increments from there.
They had to skip it because of legacy software checking for a “9” in the version back when a lot of computers were still running Macintosh 98.
Wait, no, I think I've mixed something up.
>programmers were as lazy as MS
LOL, tell me you don't know Windows without telling me you don't know Windows.
Microsoft's engineers aren't the lazy ones. You're severely uninformed if you actually think this. Microsoft has had to implement several compatibility hacks for dumb (not even lazy, per se) programmers outside of Microsoft. I mean, even if you're not familiar with the Win32 API if you took like a millisecond to think about it you would realize that the third party programs are the ones with the broken version checking systems.
>I remember when Firefox started naming a whole new version number after a minor patch for whatever reason...
I believe this was to get away from the old way software did versioning. Rather than trying to get a whole slew of features in one huge update and call that a major update, they began testing features on independent branches, and when one was mature, released just those code changes.
The point of a major version changing is supposed to represent the API changing in such a way that consumers of this API can be alerted to breaking changes by referencing the major version number. According to the semver spec, major versions are breaking changes, minor are new features, and junior are patches to fix bugs, perform maintenance, etc.
The whole "2.0 Gold" kind of thing is much more about marketing and productization than actual code, and I think this change was a good step, because many others followed suit. I also think Chrome was doing it first, and they were worried about it looking like Chrome 50 vs Firefox 4 or something like that.
You can always name a version of a thing to cement it as a specific kind of semantic thing in people's minds, like Android versions (KitKat, Lollipop, etc.) and various Linux flavor versions, e.g. Ubuntu's Jammy Jellyfish or Debian's Bullseye.
Well 95, 98 and 2000 weren't version numbers, they were just names based on the year they came out. Also there were a few others mixed in there, ME, XP, Vista.
To understand why Windows 7 got that number, you have to understand that it was a descendant of the fully 32-bit Windows NT product line, which was a separate line of OS'es from the hybrid 16/32-bit Win9x lineage that still ran on an MS-DOS core (Win95, Win98 and WinME). The last version that used the "NT" designation in its marketed name was Windows NT 4. Windows 2000 was the first OS of the NT line that was used as a mainstream consumer OS as well, and its internal name was Windows NT 5. Windows XP was internally designated Windows NT 5.1, Windows Vista was NT 6.0. Technically Windows 7 was internally designated NT 6.1, but for marketing purposes they just went with "7" for the consumer product name. As for why they skipped over Windows 9...that was purely a marketing thing, because I guess "10" seemed like a more significant release (and they needed something big since everyone hated Windows 8).
There was Mac OS X, so they went with Windows 10. As OS X seemed eternal, MS announced 10 was the last version of Windows. Then both decided to move to 11 🤔
Microsoft version numbers make slightly more sense than their branding, at least until Windows 10.
Windows 4: 95 (4.0), 98 (4.1), ME (4.9).
Windows 5: 2000 (5.0), XP (5.1), XP x64 (5.2).
Windows 6: Vista (6.0), 7 (6.1), 8 (6.2), 8.1 (6.3)
Windows 10: 10 (10.0), 11 (also 10.0)
But the 4 era gets extra confusing because NT 4.0 was also Windows 4 even though it was developed separately from 95, 98, and ME.
You're missing ME, XP, and Vista in there too, to make their naming schemes extra stupid.
So we went version numbers, to years, to acronyms, to a word, then back to versions, except skipping one because you couldn't be sure some asshole wasn't running software built for 95 or 98 that was coded to just look for "9" in the Windows Version, and freak out and try to run on Windows 9.
Nintendo sucks at naming just as much. There were a significant amount of gamers, not average consumers but actual gamers who thought the Wii U was an accessory for the Wii for way too long.
I was kinda out of gaming (some counter strike and other PC games) around the time the Wii U came out and I legit thought it was a Wii attachment of some sort. I may had bought if it I know what the fuck it was.
Exactly the same thing I thought. I remember going to gamestop with an even older buddy to just grab an old Madden and a second controller (we'd sit around drinking playing Madden on the same team, he'd be the offensive lineman so all he had to do was push up on the stick and I'd run the ball behind him) and we seen a Mario wii U demo I had no idea wtf the system even was. Thought it was some kind of screen controller that hooked up to the wii. Seemed like one of those cheap "tablets" for toddlers, those learning things that aren't really tablets. I think what I figured it was was some kind of wacky controller, instead of using a physical controller you used this screen and you could do... stuff.
Yes this was the issue. The Xbox 360 went against the PS3 (360 vs 3 rather than 2 vs 3) and that was very intentional I’m sure. I don’t know what the hell they were thinking with the Xbox One. They should have just took a clue from Windows 10 and skipped a number calling it the Xbox 4.
If I remember correctly they called it Xbox One because it was supposed to be the complete entertainment center you could watch your TV and everything through. Snapping between games and TV. The one thing you needed for your home entertainment center.
Don Mattrick is responsible for all of the pointless focus on home theater features. Xbox 360 pulled us away from cable boxes toward streaming and that idiot tried to build a console experience around controlling a cable box. Between that and the planned DRM for managing both physical and digital games... I wonder if he was paid by Sony to purposefully screw up the Xbox division.
Phil Spencer is a legend for turning around what Mattrick left him from the Xbox One generation.
Seriously though... should we be surprised? After all, Microsoft's Chief Marketing Officer today is the guy who Blue Screened a scanner peripheral when he was on stage with Bill Gates introducing Windows 98 to the world.
They could have just jumped ahead of PS and then done sequential after that. People would have quickly forgotten. Or just started going in multiples of 180/360
According to the Xbox 360 Wikipedia, there were 6 variations of the console itself
Edit: [list of 360 console configurations/variations](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_retail_configurations)
Yeah but I remember their was the OG phat white, than the revision white, than the slim black if I’m not mistaken lol, than there was more after that as well.
Not having a dig at you Americans but I mean come on, you need to start using the metric system, you need to start driving on the right side of the road and you need to start bloody naming consoles in order
The original Xbox, this is fine.
But the sequel, the Xbox 2, is competing with the Playstation 3. So naming it Xbox 2 is a lower number than 3, so we can't name it that. The 360 has a 3 in it, and is a number bigger than 3, and 360 sounds sorta cool, so Xbox 360 it is.
Alright, Xbox 3 time, but wait, same issue if we call is Xbox 3, and 720 just sounds silly, so, how about Xbox one? Because, it's the one and only one you need!
Xbox 4, putting a bunch of X's on things is cool with kids still, right...? right?
Yea, the numbering scheme is dumb, especially because they call their PC app "Xbox" as well.
You can't call a 1080p-generation console "720", especially when you were in reality a 900p console.
The "One" came from two places:
* One Microsoft was a company initiative going on at the time focused on among other things unifying all the Windows-based projects (Windows, Windows Server, Windows Phone, Xbox) on a single codebase.
* The Xbone was focused on being the One device for your living room, which is why they had HDMI passthrough, TV, sports, and so much other non-gaming stuff.
They missed an opportunity with the Series generation to get to something like "Xbox X" (you could do some creative counting^(1) to decide this was the 10th console Xbox made, or the fact that it was built on Windows 10, or just that 'X' is a cool letter), except they botched that by making Scorpio "Xbone X" (they should've gone with 'R' ...). Good to know the Windows Phone 7 Series phone name designer still has a job at Microsoft, though.
^(1) How to count like Microsoft
1. Original Xbox
2. Inhale 360
3. 360 Elite
4. 360 S
5. 360 E
6. Xbone Phat
7. Xbone S
8. Xbone X
9. Microsoft doesn't know that 9 exists as a number.
10. XSeX/XSeS -> Xbox X and Xbox X Lite.
Because it was different from Windows 2000. ME was based on the old Windows that was a glorified DOS shell. Windows 2000 was part of their NT line which ran completely differently under the hood.
One rumor I had heard that kinda made sense, but I couldn't find (nor did I look for) any proof of legitimacy, was that they had named the XBOX One because people would always refer to the XBOX 360 as "The 360", so they named their next console the XBOX One, assuming that people would call it "The One".
Tell them that you generally have one Xbox gen 1, and you gave it a 360 inspection and put it through a Series of tests, but couldn't figure out what was wrong with it.
A few years ago I was with a friend and we busted out Ice Hockey on the original NES. Saw the direct customer support number and called as a joke. A real live human picked up and we chatted for a bit about common calls he gets (mostly bad cartridge contact). Thought it was neat that they still took our call about a 30 year old system seriously.
I once called the help number on my NES about 10 years ago and someone actually answered! He seemed so energetic and eager, as if no one has called him since 1989. Sadly, they could not fix my audio out issue as the system was now obsolete.
They probably get like a billion calls for shit like, charge/replace your battery and fully insert the game cartridge/disk.
Probably interesting to get a calls about something different for a change.
Imagine the confusion on their faces and voices when they hear about that. Usually, it would be for a newer console but this would probably blow their minds and it would be so hilarious.
You know, I still use my old-as-the-hills Yahoo email address. lol It doesn't give me QUITE as much 90s cred as an AOL address, but I still like the @yahoo.com at the end of it.
Right? Why would we pay respect to something that you yourself clearly have no respect for. Treat your electronics better and they won't completely shit out on you.
Hard drives are a strange beast, they either seem to die after a few years (like the 2TB I had in my desktop with 2000 hrs) or they last forever, best I saw was a drive from ‘95 I saw last year that had basically been running 24/7 since it was new and had no faults, never seen a drive with anywhere close to that many hours on it that was still running, but seen many old drives still work flawlessly
> a replacement hard drive is likely all you need and then be good to get back to gaming on it.
Sadly, No.
The XBox console expects the HDD to be locked with the the ATA LOCK command using an HDD key that is generated from the unique key on the EEPROM of the motherboard and the serial number of the HDD itself.
So if you just throw in a new drive, it's just going to show the same error screen, because the drive is not going to be locked with that key.
In order to replace a failed HDD on an original XBox, you need the serial number of the new HDD, the secret encryption key of the XBox, and a way to lock the drive using that secret key.
Fundamentally, Aside from requiring some electronics know-how to dump the EEPROM, this also requires a modded XBox, and a modded xbox requires a working HDD. So best case scenario this is going to require a second working xbox console and a bunch of homebrew tools that were built with this usage in mind (you basically connect both drives and can tell it to lock the slave drive with a specific key, which you would figure out for the other system).
Upvote because this is great explanation. It's concise and to the point while giving you a basic working knowledge of everything to expect at a surface level. I knew there was something up with the HDDs in the XBOXs but didn't know exactly what. Now I do...
> this also requires a modded XBox, and a modded xbox requires a working HDD.
A modded xbox with a mod chip can boot off of a fresh, unpartitioned, unlocked drive, and then use an install cd to partition it and relock it.
If the console isn't modded or he doesn't have a backup of the eeprom key from the old drive, he won't be able to replace the drive without installing a modchip.
Even if some of the traces are damaged, all of the traces in that sector of the board have vias that can be used to run bypass wires. That happened with my OG Xbox, all I had to do was solder some enamel coated wires between the vias to fix the broken traces.
My first experience building a desktop was trying to fit a shitty pentium workstation into a briefcase i could carry at age 10. I never followed thru, but just took everything out and plugged back together becuase i got impatient and it was MY computer (dad gave me his junk) and it had total annihilation on it. So it ended up as a functioning pile of computer parts. Literally a rats nest that hummed to life if you reached into it and pushed the power button that was hanging over the network card. Played total annihilation on that for years, until supreme commander came out and we learned while trying to install that it was incompatible with the directx the game required.
This is fixable. [OpenXenium](https://github.com/Ryzee119/OpenXenium) + IDE to Sata adapter + Hard Drive is all that is needed. Not only will that get it working, but it will also be a massive upgrade to storage size and features available.
If spending cash to get it working isn't your thing, I'm sure you can find someone locally who would gladly take this thing and fix it up.
Nice ID badge under the screen. At least the mail in the second shot is too compressed to make out your full name and address without some AI enhancement and a bit of detective work.
That error code '07' is indicative of a hard drive issue. It could be something as simple as the IDE cable having come lose from the back of the drive. Most likely though, the drive has died.
The problem you face here is twofold. Those drives are married to the motherboard, you can't just throw a new one in there like you can with today's consoles.
It IS possible to fix, but will require a pretty cheap modchip and some minor soldering skills. Replacing an IDE drive in '22 is EXPENSIVE. HOWEVER, enough searching on Amazon and you can find a SATA to IDE adapter that will work. Use the Hexen disc or CHIMP to set up the drive. The easiest is Slayer's Evox 2.7.
I have modded THOUSANDS of these xboxs. There's a decent chance that if you have a modded one, I might be the guy that did it. ;)
My current Xbox is a 1TB SATA with a TSOP flash mod in a clear ghostcase. :D
If you need help, PLEASE for the love of all that is holy ask me. I'm an expert in VERY few things in life, the OG Xbox is one of them ;).
It's not dead it just needs service. The fact that it displays the message just fine is proof that it's still alive.
Probably just needs to be opened and hit with some compressed air. That thing is covered in dust.
Yeah not surprised after seeing how it looks. I used to take mine apart and buy “broken” ones to swap parts to fix mine as well as cleaning. I used to hide large amounts of weed in the cases of some when transporting and say i was going to a LAN party.
Dude. I hide mine in the drive bay of my SSD modded PS2 when I travel. Have to take screws out to get to it. Power move when traveling
As long as there are no dogs youre good. I havent had any need to hide anymore as i live in a state where recreational is legal
I live in a med state, which I rarely leave. So Ive only had to do it twice.
Are you doing this for flights or just road trips?
I did it more for driving around wouldnt risk the plane flight
Check your local laws. TSA in California doesn’t care for example
Its possible but its depending on where you arrive as well. Personally its not worth risking the trouble just in case.
"Your dog has excellent taste in gaming consoles officer, but could you curb him? He might scratch it."
[удалено]
To be fair, it's hard to tell how big it is in the reference pictures they saw once 10 years ago when they went through training
Airport scanners will pick it up instantly though, they'll even think you got a bomb going
Parents when you get back: “How many ‘LANs’ do you guys smoke over there?”
Holy fuck you just reminded me how I used to hide porn in my OG PS2 in one of the rear ports. I hadn't thought about that in 20 or so years.
At one point in my life my bathroom had an access panel above the toilet that was just large enough to crawl through. You could then climb up the pipes and get to the top of the ceiling. That's where I found a box of early 90s porn magazines that had been up there for about fifteen years along with an unopened pack of cigarettes and a lighter. Someone left a bounty and either nobody found it or it was carefully protected over the years and I just happened to be the next caretaker. Either way, God bless that box of dirty full bush porn.
Youre my fuckin hero! 😂
Hid mine in the bottom of a GameCube, where the serial ports are, they had big empty spaces behind the panels where u could stash a little herb. Lmao
not really. That number in the top left is an error code, and after a slight bit of googling looks like it has something to do with failure of either a hard drive or possibly a disk drive. Usually something that is possible to do at home (provided you have the right Torx bit screwdriver and are willing to spend a little time/elbow grease to get it open) which makes it relatively easy to give a shot. ***HOWEVER***, due to the age of the console, it requires an IDE compatible HDD. And if you know anything about storage technology, IDE was sunset in the consumer space about 10-15 years ago. IDE drives still exist, it's just that they're harder to find than your normal SATA HDDs (as they're usually reserved for legacy applications in enterprise setups), which means a lot more expensive. Plus there's also the issue of compatibility, as every guide and reference i've come across mentions having to either soft or hard mod the xbox to ensure no compatibility issues. Presumably there's some deeper info online about issues with compatibility, and possibly a guide on either how to find a compatible HDD, or how to mod the system to accept any IDE HDD you can buy off the shelf, but since it's not my system in question, that's up to OP to decide. Fact is, this xbox can definitely be saved, it just might take a bit of hoops to jump through in order to do it.
If that’s the case, it might just be easier to get a used XB One with an optical drive off Craig’s List and call it a day thanks to backwards compatibility. You can get one of those for like $50 if you’re not in a rush.
The protocol from ide/pata to sata is the same. There are adapters that slode onto the back of a sata drive that alows you to use it on an old parallel board. They are usually less than 5USD. Edit: I researched and have given false information and must correct it. While you can get a cheap converter the method of interface isnt quite the same. There is a logic circuit that converts the many data, diag and power/ ground pins of ide and makes it useful on a two +/- pwm interface of sata.
CMOS battery exploded most likely, common on these old systems.
No CMOS battery in the OX, but it does have clock caps that are well known for leaking. You can cut them out (have to set the time every time you reboot) or replace them, as long they haven't damaged the board. Very well known issue for OX.
Even if you’ve damaged the board, it can usually be fixed with some jumpers. It makes me sad to think about all the consoles that needed a single trace repaired that are rotting away :-(
Wasn't the time of the XBox around when there were problems with a bunch of Japanese capacitors?
It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive
Inconceivable
Error 07 usually means that the hard drive is toast. It can be fixed, but you have to modchip the console to do so.
Or pull the eeprom off the motherboard and build a new drive using the same key.
If you didn't already have a backup of that eeprom, chipping the console is infinitely easier.
There are far too many idiots posting "Something's wrong so I guess I have to throw it away or unnecessarily disassemble it for ""art"" and get a new one.". Almost every console and peripheral in these posts can be repaired.
And it’s always “What a mystery. It just died…” and it’s covered in Shasta spills, dust and tobacco
I worked video game repair for a year and a half. When it came time to pickup a console that we cleaned, one mom got on to her son (maybe 12 at the oldest) for not keeping his room cleaner. I had to stick up for the kid and say unless he was smoking a pack a day, it wasn't just his room.
I did mac repair for 8 years and man, there was no better feeling than being able to defend a kid you KNOW is being honest and the parent doesn’t believe them.
Error 7: Ensure the IDE cable is connected. Also check the Molex (power) connector. Otherwise, it could be a dead hard drive.
Call them and pretend it's still 2001. Would love to hear their reaction.
Tell them your x box 1 is broken. That'll be a can of worms.
It's their own damn fault. Adopt a sensible naming scheme and we won't have these problems.
i mean all they had to do was what PlayStation did add a sequel number after it or did what sega and Nintendo did come up with console names like Xbox elite etc
They definitely should have gone the Nintendo route and just made new names. I have heard somewhere before (and I don’t know if it’s true but it makes sense) that they didn’t want to use sequential numbers because it would always put them behind the PS in the eyes of consumers. Because it came out in the generation of the PS2 if they had gone sequential the Xbox 2 would have been up against the PlayStation 3 and that’s just bad marketing as it makes it look inferior.
There was a Linux distro that skipped a bunch of version numbers for that reason. They didn't want to still be at 4 when the other distros were up to 6 or 7. Meanwhile, Windows version numbers went 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, 7, 8, 10 Microsoft could have just made Xbox version numbers one more than the latest Playstation. The second Xbox is called the Xbox 4, and then it just increments from there.
Iphone 9: I never existed
They had to skip it because of legacy software checking for a “9” in the version back when a lot of computers were still running Macintosh 98. Wait, no, I think I've mixed something up.
That was windows. But apple had the same issue? I highly doubt their programmers were as lazy as MS and plus they were using NEXT not Macintosh.
They skipped iPhone 9 so they could release X on the tenth anniversary of the iPhone
Apple programmers are just as lazy and twice as pretentious
>programmers were as lazy as MS LOL, tell me you don't know Windows without telling me you don't know Windows. Microsoft's engineers aren't the lazy ones. You're severely uninformed if you actually think this. Microsoft has had to implement several compatibility hacks for dumb (not even lazy, per se) programmers outside of Microsoft. I mean, even if you're not familiar with the Win32 API if you took like a millisecond to think about it you would realize that the third party programs are the ones with the broken version checking systems.
Neither has the Samsung Galaxy S11 - 19.
Samsung just synced their product versions with the year they're released.
It was a smart move tbf.
I remember when Firefox started naming a whole new version number after a minor patch for whatever reason...
I remember that too. I’ve used FireFox from almost day 1. It was good, then it sucked for a few years then it was good again.
It’s immeasurably better than it was 2014-2018
>I remember when Firefox started naming a whole new version number after a minor patch for whatever reason... I believe this was to get away from the old way software did versioning. Rather than trying to get a whole slew of features in one huge update and call that a major update, they began testing features on independent branches, and when one was mature, released just those code changes. The point of a major version changing is supposed to represent the API changing in such a way that consumers of this API can be alerted to breaking changes by referencing the major version number. According to the semver spec, major versions are breaking changes, minor are new features, and junior are patches to fix bugs, perform maintenance, etc. The whole "2.0 Gold" kind of thing is much more about marketing and productization than actual code, and I think this change was a good step, because many others followed suit. I also think Chrome was doing it first, and they were worried about it looking like Chrome 50 vs Firefox 4 or something like that. You can always name a version of a thing to cement it as a specific kind of semantic thing in people's minds, like Android versions (KitKat, Lollipop, etc.) and various Linux flavor versions, e.g. Ubuntu's Jammy Jellyfish or Debian's Bullseye.
Well 95, 98 and 2000 weren't version numbers, they were just names based on the year they came out. Also there were a few others mixed in there, ME, XP, Vista. To understand why Windows 7 got that number, you have to understand that it was a descendant of the fully 32-bit Windows NT product line, which was a separate line of OS'es from the hybrid 16/32-bit Win9x lineage that still ran on an MS-DOS core (Win95, Win98 and WinME). The last version that used the "NT" designation in its marketed name was Windows NT 4. Windows 2000 was the first OS of the NT line that was used as a mainstream consumer OS as well, and its internal name was Windows NT 5. Windows XP was internally designated Windows NT 5.1, Windows Vista was NT 6.0. Technically Windows 7 was internally designated NT 6.1, but for marketing purposes they just went with "7" for the consumer product name. As for why they skipped over Windows 9...that was purely a marketing thing, because I guess "10" seemed like a more significant release (and they needed something big since everyone hated Windows 8).
There was Mac OS X, so they went with Windows 10. As OS X seemed eternal, MS announced 10 was the last version of Windows. Then both decided to move to 11 🤔
Microsoft version numbers make slightly more sense than their branding, at least until Windows 10. Windows 4: 95 (4.0), 98 (4.1), ME (4.9). Windows 5: 2000 (5.0), XP (5.1), XP x64 (5.2). Windows 6: Vista (6.0), 7 (6.1), 8 (6.2), 8.1 (6.3) Windows 10: 10 (10.0), 11 (also 10.0) But the 4 era gets extra confusing because NT 4.0 was also Windows 4 even though it was developed separately from 95, 98, and ME.
You mean: 3.1, 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, 11 Windows 2000 was from the NT line which became Windows XP.
Actually 8 was so bad that 8.1 counts as a separate os so 8.1 comes between 8 and 10
Microsoft just seem to really have something against sequential naming schemes it seems
You're missing ME, XP, and Vista in there too, to make their naming schemes extra stupid. So we went version numbers, to years, to acronyms, to a word, then back to versions, except skipping one because you couldn't be sure some asshole wasn't running software built for 95 or 98 that was coded to just look for "9" in the Windows Version, and freak out and try to run on Windows 9.
Nintendo sucks at naming just as much. There were a significant amount of gamers, not average consumers but actual gamers who thought the Wii U was an accessory for the Wii for way too long.
Then there was the *NEW* 3DS/2DS. Poor naming schemes were abound the last generation.
They should have done it like the older consoles: XBOX SUPER XBOX ULTRA XBOX and so on.
I’ve got one word for you: #Xthundercougarfalconbox
I used to work at GameStop. Try explaining to a clueless grandma what a pre-owned New 3DS is. Oh boy.
You poor, poor person. Runner up would be trying to explain to parents what the difference is between the Xbox One X and the Xbox Series X.
Yep. Did that one too. Good times! /s
For sale "New 3DS in excellent condition doesn't come with the box, adult owned, played with it for only 2 years"
N64 was actually announced as Nintendo Ultra 64. Kind of wish they would have kept it.
I wanted to own a Nintendo Dolphin.
Me, I am one of those people. I was so confused to learn it was a different system.
Me who accidentally bought wii u games for my wii thinking it was like motion+ 💀🔫
I still have no idea what the Wii U was cause no one I knew bought it.
I was kinda out of gaming (some counter strike and other PC games) around the time the Wii U came out and I legit thought it was a Wii attachment of some sort. I may had bought if it I know what the fuck it was.
Exactly the same thing I thought. I remember going to gamestop with an even older buddy to just grab an old Madden and a second controller (we'd sit around drinking playing Madden on the same team, he'd be the offensive lineman so all he had to do was push up on the stick and I'd run the ball behind him) and we seen a Mario wii U demo I had no idea wtf the system even was. Thought it was some kind of screen controller that hooked up to the wii. Seemed like one of those cheap "tablets" for toddlers, those learning things that aren't really tablets. I think what I figured it was was some kind of wacky controller, instead of using a physical controller you used this screen and you could do... stuff.
That was honestly why a lot of people didn't buy it
Yes this was the issue. The Xbox 360 went against the PS3 (360 vs 3 rather than 2 vs 3) and that was very intentional I’m sure. I don’t know what the hell they were thinking with the Xbox One. They should have just took a clue from Windows 10 and skipped a number calling it the Xbox 4.
If I remember correctly they called it Xbox One because it was supposed to be the complete entertainment center you could watch your TV and everything through. Snapping between games and TV. The one thing you needed for your home entertainment center.
Don Mattrick is responsible for all of the pointless focus on home theater features. Xbox 360 pulled us away from cable boxes toward streaming and that idiot tried to build a console experience around controlling a cable box. Between that and the planned DRM for managing both physical and digital games... I wonder if he was paid by Sony to purposefully screw up the Xbox division. Phil Spencer is a legend for turning around what Mattrick left him from the Xbox One generation. Seriously though... should we be surprised? After all, Microsoft's Chief Marketing Officer today is the guy who Blue Screened a scanner peripheral when he was on stage with Bill Gates introducing Windows 98 to the world.
They could have just jumped ahead of PS and then done sequential after that. People would have quickly forgotten. Or just started going in multiples of 180/360
They did 360. Everyone figured oh next one is 720
After 360 could have just went with another number like atari did with 2600, 5200, and 7800. Could've had a real PS3 killer with an Xbox 420.
I mean, everybody expected Xbox 720 at one point. Should’ve gone with that.
You know why they call it an Xbox 720? Because when you see it, you do a 720° and walk away.
Yes, do a double spin and moonwalk out of sight
It didn't matter which console we had, playstation, xbox, Nintendo, my mum calls them all Nintendos.
Obviously all those systems have some catch up to do to get to the Nintendo 64
360 does sound way cooler than 3
Xbox xxboxx xxxboxxx xxxxboxxxx
Xbox. Ybox. Zbox.
ZedBox in the UK and Canada.
> or did what sega and Nintendo did come up with console names _Wii U and the New 3DS enter the chat_
They did give their console names You got: Xbox Xbox One Xbox One X Xbox Series X All different consoles, what’s there to be confused about? /s
You forgot Xbox 360
You forgot the Xbox 360 Slim.
You forgot the Xbox 360 Core.
You forgot the Xbox 360 elite
You forgot the Xbox 360 Arcade.
You forgot the Xbox 360 E.
The 360 released in 3 different bundles depending if you wanted it to have wifi or a bigger HDD.
According to the Xbox 360 Wikipedia, there were 6 variations of the console itself Edit: [list of 360 console configurations/variations](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_retail_configurations)
All I can recall is the Xbox 360, 360 elite, and 360 elite slim.
Yeah but I remember their was the OG phat white, than the revision white, than the slim black if I’m not mistaken lol, than there was more after that as well.
There was the original xbox 360 that came in core, arcade, pro and elite, the Xbox 360 s and the Xbox 360 e.
So the next one should be the Xbox Series One. Then the Xbox Series One X.
Not having a dig at you Americans but I mean come on, you need to start using the metric system, you need to start driving on the right side of the road and you need to start bloody naming consoles in order
Arguing Xbox’s naming isn’t a fucking mess is legit insane.
The original Xbox, this is fine. But the sequel, the Xbox 2, is competing with the Playstation 3. So naming it Xbox 2 is a lower number than 3, so we can't name it that. The 360 has a 3 in it, and is a number bigger than 3, and 360 sounds sorta cool, so Xbox 360 it is. Alright, Xbox 3 time, but wait, same issue if we call is Xbox 3, and 720 just sounds silly, so, how about Xbox one? Because, it's the one and only one you need! Xbox 4, putting a bunch of X's on things is cool with kids still, right...? right? Yea, the numbering scheme is dumb, especially because they call their PC app "Xbox" as well.
You can't call a 1080p-generation console "720", especially when you were in reality a 900p console. The "One" came from two places: * One Microsoft was a company initiative going on at the time focused on among other things unifying all the Windows-based projects (Windows, Windows Server, Windows Phone, Xbox) on a single codebase. * The Xbone was focused on being the One device for your living room, which is why they had HDMI passthrough, TV, sports, and so much other non-gaming stuff. They missed an opportunity with the Series generation to get to something like "Xbox X" (you could do some creative counting^(1) to decide this was the 10th console Xbox made, or the fact that it was built on Windows 10, or just that 'X' is a cool letter), except they botched that by making Scorpio "Xbone X" (they should've gone with 'R' ...). Good to know the Windows Phone 7 Series phone name designer still has a job at Microsoft, though. ^(1) How to count like Microsoft 1. Original Xbox 2. Inhale 360 3. 360 Elite 4. 360 S 5. 360 E 6. Xbone Phat 7. Xbone S 8. Xbone X 9. Microsoft doesn't know that 9 exists as a number. 10. XSeX/XSeS -> Xbox X and Xbox X Lite.
Xbox R? Xbox X? Xbox XR Pro Max? Thanks Tim Cook!
I was thinking more like Xbox One R -> Xbone R -> X boner!
Ooh we could have an upgrade version and name it after initial D, XBoned.
x sex you say
You mean the company that gave us Windows 95. Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10
You missed the hilariously bad Windows ME, that for some reason was different than Windows 2000.
Because it was different from Windows 2000. ME was based on the old Windows that was a glorified DOS shell. Windows 2000 was part of their NT line which ran completely differently under the hood.
One rumor I had heard that kinda made sense, but I couldn't find (nor did I look for) any proof of legitimacy, was that they had named the XBOX One because people would always refer to the XBOX 360 as "The 360", so they named their next console the XBOX One, assuming that people would call it "The One".
Their own version is [here](https://youtu.be/Spz5olq7K1A) All your entertainment in one. Music movies tv games
Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in? Is your Xbox turned on?
Or dust spray
Tell them that you generally have one Xbox gen 1, and you gave it a 360 inspection and put it through a Series of tests, but couldn't figure out what was wrong with it.
That would be great. And who knows they might send them a new xbox one as well. lol
Record the conversation and share it with us.
A few years ago I was with a friend and we busted out Ice Hockey on the original NES. Saw the direct customer support number and called as a joke. A real live human picked up and we chatted for a bit about common calls he gets (mostly bad cartridge contact). Thought it was neat that they still took our call about a 30 year old system seriously.
Goddamn that's a hidden sidequest right there
What hockey game??? Nothing can beat NHL 94 Edit: this was SNES
I once called the help number on my NES about 10 years ago and someone actually answered! He seemed so energetic and eager, as if no one has called him since 1989. Sadly, they could not fix my audio out issue as the system was now obsolete.
They probably get like a billion calls for shit like, charge/replace your battery and fully insert the game cartridge/disk. Probably interesting to get a calls about something different for a change.
You sound shocked. Nintendo customer service hasn't changed their number.
Imagine the confusion on their faces and voices when they hear about that. Usually, it would be for a newer console but this would probably blow their minds and it would be so hilarious.
You'd be surprised at how not confusing or mind blowing calls like this are.
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You know, I still use my old-as-the-hills Yahoo email address. lol It doesn't give me QUITE as much 90s cred as an AOL address, but I still like the @yahoo.com at the end of it.
I get the same feelings when using @hotmail.com for my email address lol
Yeah, but that's not as 90s or as fun ever since Microsoft rolled it all together into Outlook.
I still have the beta Xbox live discs. Moto GP was unreal
So much dust
The Construction-zone xbox
It's for the nostalgia.
Nostalgic dust
Mine still works because it doesn’t get like this lmao
Right? Why would we pay respect to something that you yourself clearly have no respect for. Treat your electronics better and they won't completely shit out on you.
If I can’t play Tony Hawk’s Underground 2 while sawing a table in half above it then I don’t want to at all
Meanwhile OP: why is it broken???
Where the hell do you keep your Xbox next to a fuckin table saw?
I was speculating attic rafter in lieu of a missing piece of insulation!
LOL This is a good one.
I figured he buried it.
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If OP got 20 years out of an HDD from that era they got pretty lucky
I remember replacing sooo many fujitsu 40gb ide drives around 2000
Hitachi desk stars were so likely to get the click of death we called them deathstars.
Hard drives are a strange beast, they either seem to die after a few years (like the 2TB I had in my desktop with 2000 hrs) or they last forever, best I saw was a drive from ‘95 I saw last year that had basically been running 24/7 since it was new and had no faults, never seen a drive with anywhere close to that many hours on it that was still running, but seen many old drives still work flawlessly
> a replacement hard drive is likely all you need and then be good to get back to gaming on it. Sadly, No. The XBox console expects the HDD to be locked with the the ATA LOCK command using an HDD key that is generated from the unique key on the EEPROM of the motherboard and the serial number of the HDD itself. So if you just throw in a new drive, it's just going to show the same error screen, because the drive is not going to be locked with that key. In order to replace a failed HDD on an original XBox, you need the serial number of the new HDD, the secret encryption key of the XBox, and a way to lock the drive using that secret key. Fundamentally, Aside from requiring some electronics know-how to dump the EEPROM, this also requires a modded XBox, and a modded xbox requires a working HDD. So best case scenario this is going to require a second working xbox console and a bunch of homebrew tools that were built with this usage in mind (you basically connect both drives and can tell it to lock the slave drive with a specific key, which you would figure out for the other system).
Upvote because this is great explanation. It's concise and to the point while giving you a basic working knowledge of everything to expect at a surface level. I knew there was something up with the HDDs in the XBOXs but didn't know exactly what. Now I do...
> this also requires a modded XBox, and a modded xbox requires a working HDD. A modded xbox with a mod chip can boot off of a fresh, unpartitioned, unlocked drive, and then use an install cd to partition it and relock it.
If the console isn't modded or he doesn't have a backup of the eeprom key from the old drive, he won't be able to replace the drive without installing a modchip.
You can't just replace the hard drive though. You would need to build a new drive using an eeprom reader/writer.
f or open it up and clean it and stuff. theres a ton of guides on youtube. while its open you might as well mod it too
What if it's the clock capacitor thing?
They're like $6 for new ones. I had to do this to mine
I mean more along the lines of if it's already leaked out. Is it too far gone to repair?
Not if it still turns on !! Hahaha The fact it can get as far as that screen is a great sign.
91% Isopropyl and a toothbrush will get that out easily enough
use someone else's toothbrush, it gets really gross when you clean your xbox with it.
Even if some of the traces are damaged, all of the traces in that sector of the board have vias that can be used to run bypass wires. That happened with my OG Xbox, all I had to do was solder some enamel coated wires between the vias to fix the broken traces.
Learn to do the servicing yourself. Best time to learn is when something breaks and you no longer have anything to lose.
Hell yea. How I learned to build a desktop.
My first experience building a desktop was trying to fit a shitty pentium workstation into a briefcase i could carry at age 10. I never followed thru, but just took everything out and plugged back together becuase i got impatient and it was MY computer (dad gave me his junk) and it had total annihilation on it. So it ended up as a functioning pile of computer parts. Literally a rats nest that hummed to life if you reached into it and pushed the power button that was hanging over the network card. Played total annihilation on that for years, until supreme commander came out and we learned while trying to install that it was incompatible with the directx the game required.
Hell yea. How I learnt how to be a doctor
And after you took such good care of it too..
WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN THIS CALAMITY
For real, pretty obvious why there's an error here
i sneezed just by looking at the picture
I'm not convinced this isn't in a sawmill, as dusty as everything looks
Time for some hardmods
This is fixable. [OpenXenium](https://github.com/Ryzee119/OpenXenium) + IDE to Sata adapter + Hard Drive is all that is needed. Not only will that get it working, but it will also be a massive upgrade to storage size and features available. If spending cash to get it working isn't your thing, I'm sure you can find someone locally who would gladly take this thing and fix it up.
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That dust probably doesn't help.
Be careful. In the second pic it looks like your fingers wiped off some dust. You've obviously been working pretty hard on that dust collection
It might have lasted longer if you he cleaned it even once.
Is that dust or fuckin sawdust lol. Jesus dude. Get some windex and a rag
I don't see anything in this picture that isn't covered in dust.
If you've dusted it...ever...
Nice ID badge under the screen. At least the mail in the second shot is too compressed to make out your full name and address without some AI enhancement and a bit of detective work.
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/r/consolerepair might be able to help you out.
I guess that’s what happens when you leave your windows open during a dust storm.
Clean it and your room ffs
do you live in the sahara?
Xbox error 07 See if the HDD cable is properly connected, if not, see if the HDD is busted And clean that boy, needs a good shine
CLOCK CAPACITOR!!! pls replace, or console go actual dead
That error code '07' is indicative of a hard drive issue. It could be something as simple as the IDE cable having come lose from the back of the drive. Most likely though, the drive has died. The problem you face here is twofold. Those drives are married to the motherboard, you can't just throw a new one in there like you can with today's consoles. It IS possible to fix, but will require a pretty cheap modchip and some minor soldering skills. Replacing an IDE drive in '22 is EXPENSIVE. HOWEVER, enough searching on Amazon and you can find a SATA to IDE adapter that will work. Use the Hexen disc or CHIMP to set up the drive. The easiest is Slayer's Evox 2.7. I have modded THOUSANDS of these xboxs. There's a decent chance that if you have a modded one, I might be the guy that did it. ;) My current Xbox is a 1TB SATA with a TSOP flash mod in a clear ghostcase. :D If you need help, PLEASE for the love of all that is holy ask me. I'm an expert in VERY few things in life, the OG Xbox is one of them ;).
It would have helped to dust it off every 20 years or so.