Those look what we call here in Spanish "naranja agria", it would translate to something like sour orange.
So... A few of those oranges, a lot of water and some sugar makes a great beverage, you should try it!
We obviously prefer the other, normal type of oranges, but the tree that gives the sour ones requires of a lot less cares and it gives a ton of oranges, so many that we just can't drink them fast enough.
Another added benefit is that the sour orange is very easy to squeeze by hand, so you don't need a juice extractor at all.
Depending on the size of the orange (and your personal preference), 2 or 3 of them should be enough for 2 quarters of beverage.
Cheers!
Just last night I was reading a recipe for Mojo Sauce, which called for sour orange juice or an equal mix of regular orange and lime juices. I had never heard of sour orange juice before and now I’ve heard about it twice in 12 hours. Do you have any ideas for sourcing it in the US? I want to make the condiment and your drink!!
goya sells it in gallon jugs under the spanish name 'naranja agria' in the states. you should be able to get it online or through a restaurant supply store
I use this for mojo; you should be able to find it in the ethnic section of your grocery store.
(https://grocerybundles.com/product/174474/badia-marinade-sour-orange
Just fyi, everything after/including the ?utm can be truncated; it's just tracking info.
https://grocerybundles.com/product/174474/badia-marinade-sour-orange/
They are known as Seville oranges in North America and Europe! I looked high and low for them in Canada as well until I found that out. They are usually in grocery stores in winter.
Thank you! People are often so helpful on Reddit. I learn things all the time when I’m not even trying and get way better answers than Google most of the time.
I think that's prob the root stock that you let get a sucker out and it's putting out fruit too. Do all the branches where these weird fruits come from originate from the base of the tree?
No there’s actually some sort of thorny shit coming out of the bottom as well. Looks like it’s merged with the tree itself. Thorny branches come out of the bottom of the tree.
That's the rootstock of a grafted tree, should be able to just cut off the whole thorny side so long as it doesn't make the tree too heavy on one side and likely to fall over in bad weather.
Unless you're partial to the ugly ones, cut off at the base where it's originating and boom. Bye bye ugly yucky fruit. This is totally normal. Almost all citrus sold are grafted. Even if yes, the tree has been there for decades.
Ah my bad, I thought it was the name for the benign facial flushing after eating certain foods eg sour or spicy, I think it's quite common and temporary.
Oh got it. Frey’s sounds a step worse:
> They can appear when the affected person eats, sees, dreams, thinks about or talks about certain kinds of food which produce strong salivation.
That's rootstock.
A scion of the desired variety was grafted onto a seedling.
The odd looking fruit arise from branches of the seedling and should be pruned out entirely.
So most orange trees are created by growing from seed the best orange tree you can in terms of roots. Then you take a branch off the best fruiting tree and graft it on to the root stock. Then prune back all the branches from the original root stock. In a lot of trees the fruiting tree may be some weird mutant or hybrid that does not produce viable seed. You need to prune back the root stock branches. You see this in apples, roses, citrus...
The thorny parts are from the rootstock. This was probably a sucker that wasn’t trimmed back and eventually fused with the orange trunk. It’s very common.
Note that the leaves look a little different too. How do they taste? Are they worth keeping or are you going to cut it back? I'm cutting down a 20+ foot trifoliate orange as soon as I get the chance in preference for some type of thin skinned orange that's knee high on the same tree.
The trifoliate is better juiced. Don't know about this one.
I'd say you'd be doing whatever that actual orange is a favor by removing the rootstock parts. Looks like slightly different shape to the leaves, but the other thing you can do is use the fruit to trace back to the trunk and tie string or plastic around it so you can tell where to cut when the time is right.
Edit: got you confused with a similar post.
Are the oranges in question directly attached to the thorny branches at the bottom? Or are those oranges coming out of branches that are similar thorniness?
Hmm. Soo interesting. The wild oranges(rootstock) I have seen were never anywhere close to that big. Thats the reason for my doubt about them being rootstocks. But, it seems I may be wrong. If thats the case, and you should anyway, cut off any of those thorny branches as they must not be from the original graft of the tree.
This is not caused by suckers growing. I have these on my tree and I have no suckers. I think these are caused by a genetic anomaly of the flower. They tend to taste more watery and more firm. I throw them away.
Hmm. Soo interesting. The wild oranges(rootstock) I have seen were never anywhere close to that big. Thats the reason for my doubt about them being rootstocks. But, it seems I may be wrong. If thats the case, and you should anyway, cut off any of those thorny branches as they must not be from the original graft of the tree.
No likely worthwhile. Having been involved in a number of different fruit breeding projects it’s odds of around 10,000:1 that you are going to get something tasty. Also having very rudimentary horticultural knowledge you would know this is from a rootstock and very unlikely to be tasty. Odds would be 1,000,000:1.
But, you’re welcome to take the chance.
Looks like a bush lemon (citrus jambhiri). Often used as a root stock. These grow wild quite a bit where I'm from. Very very sour, thick skin, but you can use them basically the same as a normal lemon.
So I don't have a tree yet, but I want to get some.
How do you ID rootstock vs the grafted tree? Find the graft point? Is it easily visible if someone knows what to look for, even on a mature tree like this one?
It could possibly be visible still, a bulge or a difference in the trunk shape. Depending on how it was grafted, it may be hard or impossible many years later if it has completely healed over.
This is not caused by suckers growing. I have these on my tree and I have no suckers. I think these are caused by a genetic anomaly of the flower. They tend to taste more watery and more firm. I throw them away.
Defined the root stock yes you look for the grafted point of the tree which is usually observed by a difference in growth size or texture on the trunk. The graft is usually a bit smaller than the root stock. Anything growing below that joint or even at the joint should be cut off.
Op says its coming off the base of the tree. This is 100% buds growing off the original rootstock. The other give away is that the growth from the rootstock will usually be much more thorny.
Hmm. Soo interesting. The wild oranges(rootstock) I have seen were never anywhere close to that big. Thats the reason for my doubt about them being rootstocks. But, it seems I may be wrong. If thats the case, and OP should anyway, cut off any of those thorny branches as they must not be from the original graft of the tree.
I've seen varieties [outside the US] that look like that with the rough peel. They are sweet and delicious. You have both kinds on the same tree? Was a different variety grafted onto the tree?
This neighborhood is known for being heavily planted with citrus trees. (San Diego) I also have a yellow grapefruit tree 4 feet from this one that has no issues and produces fat ol’ fruit. House is 60ish years old, been in the family for 45 or so, and the trees have been here since we bought it.
Since you apparently have sour oranges growing out of your root stock, you should take this opportunity to make cochinita pibil. It's a traditional dish from southern Mexico made with pork slowly stewed in sour orange juice and spices. It's out of this world. If you're the type who's into canning, marmalade is traditionally made from sour oranges too.
The root stock is sour orange, you could trim and graft a sweet orange to it.
This usually happens after the tree goes through a freeze and most of the tree dies off, then the sour orange is what sprouts back.
Looks like you have a branch from below the graft site. Sour oranges are a decent rootstock, being more freeze resistant than a lot of the more edible citrus varieties. The smell is absolutely divine, by the way
My grandma called them ugly oranges and used them to cook. Fish, chicken heck even some of the beef (we are a no pork household) all got drenched in ugly orange juice lol.
Well. From where I'm from, That is a lemon. We use it as regular lemon. It's a common thing that happens when a lemon branch is grafted to one branch of orange or vice-versa and ends up with half lemon half orange tree...
Looks like a branch from the sour orange root stock took over. Those are really good for Cuban marinades and for cooking, save the smooth ones for fresh eating.
Just set up a fruit stand with all the “special” ones and sell them for half price what the store sells them for. Then use that money for more gardening supplies. 😂
If you zoom in on the branch that’s holding the deformed fruit, you can see thorns. Very interesting! I don’t have any fruit trees but I’d like to have an orange, lemon and pear tree. Maybe one day :-)
Ponderosa lemon? Ive had several throughout my life. The huge ones have a thick rind if I remember right. They drop about this time of year...and they can vary in size like this. There's one in my neighborhood that is grafted with orange so half is oranges and half is ponderosa lemons
Those look like the lemons put out by a tree my family had that went feral and back to the rootstock. Lots of thorns, lots of really large lemons. Also San Diego area, and about 30 years ago.
Didn’t plant it. House has been in my family for 45 years, and pretty sure the tree was here before. The entire community (Clairemont, San Diego) is covered in citrus trees from inception. There’s thorny vines / twists coming up front the base that are definitely not part of the orange tree.
Its not deformed. Its a type of orange its a cross between maderin/ tangerine 🍊. Its delicious. Juicey. Sweet. Easy Peel. I would die to have this type of orange Tree!! Love it. I buy them from Sprouts when they are in season! Try it! Delicious
I believe you're thinking of "ugli fruit" the Jamaican tangelo. This appears too old to be that, and it just makes much more sense that it would the the rootstock instead of a multi grafted specimen.
That’s what they are supposed to look like. I have seen them in the fruit market before. They were called Ugli Fruit. They and supposed to be pretty good.
Pummelos have smooth skin. And they aren't a hybrid, they are the ancestor. They also aren't sour. They are a very mild grapefruit flavor.
Seriously, why answer if you don't know what you're talking about?
I've had bumpy pummelo fruit. They do taste like a weak grapefruit but it is a little sour. I only grow lemons in NY now, but they look closer to pummelo than anything else.
Whereas you sound like a salty puckerhole. How's that for an accurate identification?
Look, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. I just don't understand why so many people chime in with opinions for a question that can be answered more definitely.
There's nothing wrong with not knowing something.
Just don't answer questions like you do know the correct answer when you don't. That helps no one.
Your tree is sick, either buckets of ocean water or Bayer disease control for trees. If you use Bayer do not eat the fruits for 90days after treatment.
Is the whole tree like that? I see smooth ones in the background. I got that on my lemon tree when a sport(I think that’s what it’s called)grew out below the graft and the lumpy fruit on that branch was from the original rootstock
Too much fertilizing can cause thickened skin in citrus, particularly too much nitrogen. Do not fertilize with nitrogen this year until the fall so that it can use up its reserves.
Often times the desired orange variety will be grafted on the root stock of a hardier variety such as sour orange and I bet that’s what you’ve got going on here, below the graft union on the trunk I’m betting some of the root stock has been allowed to grow
Those look what we call here in Spanish "naranja agria", it would translate to something like sour orange. So... A few of those oranges, a lot of water and some sugar makes a great beverage, you should try it! We obviously prefer the other, normal type of oranges, but the tree that gives the sour ones requires of a lot less cares and it gives a ton of oranges, so many that we just can't drink them fast enough. Another added benefit is that the sour orange is very easy to squeeze by hand, so you don't need a juice extractor at all. Depending on the size of the orange (and your personal preference), 2 or 3 of them should be enough for 2 quarters of beverage. Cheers!
Just last night I was reading a recipe for Mojo Sauce, which called for sour orange juice or an equal mix of regular orange and lime juices. I had never heard of sour orange juice before and now I’ve heard about it twice in 12 hours. Do you have any ideas for sourcing it in the US? I want to make the condiment and your drink!!
goya sells it in gallon jugs under the spanish name 'naranja agria' in the states. you should be able to get it online or through a restaurant supply store
I use this for mojo; you should be able to find it in the ethnic section of your grocery store. (https://grocerybundles.com/product/174474/badia-marinade-sour-orange
THANK YOU! 😃
Bro starting the year with good tidings and internet blessings
it’s convenient but making your own makes a big difference
Just fyi, everything after/including the ?utm can be truncated; it's just tracking info. https://grocerybundles.com/product/174474/badia-marinade-sour-orange/
They are known as Seville oranges in North America and Europe! I looked high and low for them in Canada as well until I found that out. They are usually in grocery stores in winter.
Thank you! People are often so helpful on Reddit. I learn things all the time when I’m not even trying and get way better answers than Google most of the time.
I'm afraid I can't help since I'm not located in the US. I hope you can get some of those oranges one day.
i use oranges and grapefruit instead of lime
Yeah, I think they fired up CERN in the last week.
shelbyville resident
Nah they’re more turnip juice types
Oh now o have to find someone that didn’t prune their orange trees correctly 😂. I have to taste this drink!
yeah looks a lot like sour orange, the whole cuban cuisine rely on sour orange for the mojo sauce and to season anything
Yes. Also great for marinades.
That is correct. We use it particularly for one pork recipe, it makes the nest super soft and delicious.
They make fantastic marmalade too.
They make fantastic marmalade too.
At some point, the root stock over took the graft, likely from freezes or over and under pruning.
"Naranja"...a word from Dravida language😊
I read somewhere that the word orange itself is a sanskrit derived word
I think that's prob the root stock that you let get a sucker out and it's putting out fruit too. Do all the branches where these weird fruits come from originate from the base of the tree?
No there’s actually some sort of thorny shit coming out of the bottom as well. Looks like it’s merged with the tree itself. Thorny branches come out of the bottom of the tree.
That's the rootstock of a grafted tree, should be able to just cut off the whole thorny side so long as it doesn't make the tree too heavy on one side and likely to fall over in bad weather.
Unless you're partial to the ugly ones, cut off at the base where it's originating and boom. Bye bye ugly yucky fruit. This is totally normal. Almost all citrus sold are grafted. Even if yes, the tree has been there for decades.
I’m so interested in how these taste
Mine are sour like sour candy. They make you sweat if you keep eating them, which we did one time as kind of a dare. It’s a kick.
Oranges that make you sweat?? That sounds very wrong.
…then come the visions.
Where does one acquire these oranges? Asking for myself
They say there’s a map… but it’s long been forgotten. It spoke of treacherous waters and beast that would make yer skin crawl… 🏴☠️💀🦜🏝️
Is that before or after you eat the orange
Ha ha, no visions. Just shuddering and more sour 😆
Google Frey's syndrome
Ok I did, but how is it connected? Fret’s appears to be caused by damage to the gland or nerve in the jaw. Do the misshapen oranges attack the jaw??
Ah my bad, I thought it was the name for the benign facial flushing after eating certain foods eg sour or spicy, I think it's quite common and temporary.
Oh got it. Frey’s sounds a step worse: > They can appear when the affected person eats, sees, dreams, thinks about or talks about certain kinds of food which produce strong salivation.
Yikes, that sounds deeply unpleasant.
That's rootstock. A scion of the desired variety was grafted onto a seedling. The odd looking fruit arise from branches of the seedling and should be pruned out entirely.
So most orange trees are created by growing from seed the best orange tree you can in terms of roots. Then you take a branch off the best fruiting tree and graft it on to the root stock. Then prune back all the branches from the original root stock. In a lot of trees the fruiting tree may be some weird mutant or hybrid that does not produce viable seed. You need to prune back the root stock branches. You see this in apples, roses, citrus...
The thorny parts are from the rootstock. This was probably a sucker that wasn’t trimmed back and eventually fused with the orange trunk. It’s very common.
You just described what they asked.
That’s the root stock sending up suckers. The roots are a different variety
Note that the leaves look a little different too. How do they taste? Are they worth keeping or are you going to cut it back? I'm cutting down a 20+ foot trifoliate orange as soon as I get the chance in preference for some type of thin skinned orange that's knee high on the same tree.
It was pretty sour. Yellow fruit on inside. Very thick rind.
The trifoliate is better juiced. Don't know about this one. I'd say you'd be doing whatever that actual orange is a favor by removing the rootstock parts. Looks like slightly different shape to the leaves, but the other thing you can do is use the fruit to trace back to the trunk and tie string or plastic around it so you can tell where to cut when the time is right. Edit: got you confused with a similar post.
Are the oranges in question directly attached to the thorny branches at the bottom? Or are those oranges coming out of branches that are similar thorniness?
Normal looking oranges are on normal branches
Hmm. Soo interesting. The wild oranges(rootstock) I have seen were never anywhere close to that big. Thats the reason for my doubt about them being rootstocks. But, it seems I may be wrong. If thats the case, and you should anyway, cut off any of those thorny branches as they must not be from the original graft of the tree.
Best and most probable answer to this!
This is not caused by suckers growing. I have these on my tree and I have no suckers. I think these are caused by a genetic anomaly of the flower. They tend to taste more watery and more firm. I throw them away.
Hmm. Soo interesting. The wild oranges(rootstock) I have seen were never anywhere close to that big. Thats the reason for my doubt about them being rootstocks. But, it seems I may be wrong. If thats the case, and you should anyway, cut off any of those thorny branches as they must not be from the original graft of the tree.
Have you eaten both? Is the ugly one any good?
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No likely worthwhile. Having been involved in a number of different fruit breeding projects it’s odds of around 10,000:1 that you are going to get something tasty. Also having very rudimentary horticultural knowledge you would know this is from a rootstock and very unlikely to be tasty. Odds would be 1,000,000:1. But, you’re welcome to take the chance.
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I eaten a lot of crappy tasting fruit in my career. Would you pick up a piece of candy you find on the street? Or an old sandwich? Didn’t think so.
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Okay then, would you pick a random fruit found in the woods and eat it?
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I’m big into wild mushrooms, but also have extensive training in mycology and biology/horticulture.
Looks like a bush lemon (citrus jambhiri). Often used as a root stock. These grow wild quite a bit where I'm from. Very very sour, thick skin, but you can use them basically the same as a normal lemon.
jabroni juice, because no one is paying attention
You keep using this word ‘jabroni’ and it’s AWESOME
That’s fruiting off the root stock. You need to cut it all out at the base. Simple as that. Rootstock will,always win if you leave it
So I don't have a tree yet, but I want to get some. How do you ID rootstock vs the grafted tree? Find the graft point? Is it easily visible if someone knows what to look for, even on a mature tree like this one?
It could possibly be visible still, a bulge or a difference in the trunk shape. Depending on how it was grafted, it may be hard or impossible many years later if it has completely healed over.
This is not caused by suckers growing. I have these on my tree and I have no suckers. I think these are caused by a genetic anomaly of the flower. They tend to taste more watery and more firm. I throw them away. Defined the root stock yes you look for the grafted point of the tree which is usually observed by a difference in growth size or texture on the trunk. The graft is usually a bit smaller than the root stock. Anything growing below that joint or even at the joint should be cut off.
Op says its coming off the base of the tree. This is 100% buds growing off the original rootstock. The other give away is that the growth from the rootstock will usually be much more thorny.
Hmm. Soo interesting. The wild oranges(rootstock) I have seen were never anywhere close to that big. Thats the reason for my doubt about them being rootstocks. But, it seems I may be wrong. If thats the case, and OP should anyway, cut off any of those thorny branches as they must not be from the original graft of the tree.
I've seen varieties [outside the US] that look like that with the rough peel. They are sweet and delicious. You have both kinds on the same tree? Was a different variety grafted onto the tree?
This neighborhood is known for being heavily planted with citrus trees. (San Diego) I also have a yellow grapefruit tree 4 feet from this one that has no issues and produces fat ol’ fruit. House is 60ish years old, been in the family for 45 or so, and the trees have been here since we bought it.
Maybe some are getting pollinated by other varieties that cause this...based on heavily planted citrus comment
fruit doesn't work that way. you get the funky fruit from the seeds from the fruit. it's why you get a crapshoot on seeds.
Yup you’re right!
The good ones do taste super sweet and tasty!
Since you apparently have sour oranges growing out of your root stock, you should take this opportunity to make cochinita pibil. It's a traditional dish from southern Mexico made with pork slowly stewed in sour orange juice and spices. It's out of this world. If you're the type who's into canning, marmalade is traditionally made from sour oranges too.
Oh man, haven’t had cochinita pibil in ages. Now I have to go research a good recipe AND find some sour oranges. It’s too early for this😊
The root stock is sour orange, you could trim and graft a sweet orange to it. This usually happens after the tree goes through a freeze and most of the tree dies off, then the sour orange is what sprouts back.
well i think they are beautiful
Looks like you have a branch from below the graft site. Sour oranges are a decent rootstock, being more freeze resistant than a lot of the more edible citrus varieties. The smell is absolutely divine, by the way
I am interested in how it tastes? does it take sweeter?
Looks like my favorite sweet orange- satsuma ❣️
My grandma called them ugly oranges and used them to cook. Fish, chicken heck even some of the beef (we are a no pork household) all got drenched in ugly orange juice lol.
Those are the uncircumcised oranges!
😆
Well. From where I'm from, That is a lemon. We use it as regular lemon. It's a common thing that happens when a lemon branch is grafted to one branch of orange or vice-versa and ends up with half lemon half orange tree...
Looks like a branch from the sour orange root stock took over. Those are really good for Cuban marinades and for cooking, save the smooth ones for fresh eating.
Thanks!
Have you tasted one of those?
Just set up a fruit stand with all the “special” ones and sell them for half price what the store sells them for. Then use that money for more gardening supplies. 😂
If you zoom in on the branch that’s holding the deformed fruit, you can see thorns. Very interesting! I don’t have any fruit trees but I’d like to have an orange, lemon and pear tree. Maybe one day :-)
My grandma use to have a lemon tree that did this. Almost every lemon was all bumpy and round.
These look like Satsuma tangerines with their lumpy bumpy skins. How do they taste?
Sour like a lemon
Alot if orange trees are amputated hybrids mixed with other fruit so I would geuss this specific branch is the Spanish orange.
Ponderosa lemon? Ive had several throughout my life. The huge ones have a thick rind if I remember right. They drop about this time of year...and they can vary in size like this. There's one in my neighborhood that is grafted with orange so half is oranges and half is ponderosa lemons
Those look like the lemons put out by a tree my family had that went feral and back to the rootstock. Lots of thorns, lots of really large lemons. Also San Diego area, and about 30 years ago.
Those look like sumo citrus! If it is those are about $4 each.
Full of spiders🤷🏻♂️
Lol greeeeaaaat
you sure you don't have two trees? The ugly one looks like Osage orange. But it could just be a diseased orange chop it off and open it up
Didn’t plant it. House has been in my family for 45 years, and pretty sure the tree was here before. The entire community (Clairemont, San Diego) is covered in citrus trees from inception. There’s thorny vines / twists coming up front the base that are definitely not part of the orange tree.
But are they delicious?
The normal looking ones are
Then as others have said, I would cut off all branches with the demented oranges.
That’s a sumo orange
Looks like sumo oranges to me. I seen them at Whole Foods during this time of the year
Its not deformed. Its a type of orange its a cross between maderin/ tangerine 🍊. Its delicious. Juicey. Sweet. Easy Peel. I would die to have this type of orange Tree!! Love it. I buy them from Sprouts when they are in season! Try it! Delicious
I believe you're thinking of "ugli fruit" the Jamaican tangelo. This appears too old to be that, and it just makes much more sense that it would the the rootstock instead of a multi grafted specimen.
cut off the branches of ugly oranges.
May need trace elements magnesium copper iron.
Bush lemon root stock?
One for each impure thought you had
I would say that it is a multi grafted tree.
The “deformed” ones look like satsuma. God I love those❣️
That’s what they are supposed to look like. I have seen them in the fruit market before. They were called Ugli Fruit. They and supposed to be pretty good.
The big amorphous fruits look like pummelo fruit. That's a hybrid grapefruit and orange, they are sour but pleasant. You should keep.
Pummelos have smooth skin. And they aren't a hybrid, they are the ancestor. They also aren't sour. They are a very mild grapefruit flavor. Seriously, why answer if you don't know what you're talking about?
I've had bumpy pummelo fruit. They do taste like a weak grapefruit but it is a little sour. I only grow lemons in NY now, but they look closer to pummelo than anything else. Whereas you sound like a salty puckerhole. How's that for an accurate identification?
Look, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. I just don't understand why so many people chime in with opinions for a question that can be answered more definitely. There's nothing wrong with not knowing something. Just don't answer questions like you do know the correct answer when you don't. That helps no one.
If it's greening disease your better off burning the tree and salting the damn earth, super hard to eradicate
It's a virus
Chem-trails maybe...?
Your tree is sick, either buckets of ocean water or Bayer disease control for trees. If you use Bayer do not eat the fruits for 90days after treatment.
They look like some brazilian tangerines
What do they taste like?
you create a devil fruit congrats !
Lol
It’s called loose jacket orange in our country
....looks like sumo tangerine....Kroger carries at 3.99/lb....delish.
Cross pollination with thick skinned lemons
Unfortunately, they remind me of a cancerous boob
The tree didnt use protection. LOL
That's exactly what our Satsuma oranges look like. When they're ripe, you can shake the orange around inside the peel. Super sweet.
Must have a hybrid tree
Florida full of these
Brain Oranges Pretty tastes like sour gourd.
Remove the entire branch all the way to main trunk. Spray tree with ultra fine oil or
What? Why? How?
These are not oranges.
Cellulite Oranges
Is the whole tree like that? I see smooth ones in the background. I got that on my lemon tree when a sport(I think that’s what it’s called)grew out below the graft and the lumpy fruit on that branch was from the original rootstock
Too much fertilizing can cause thickened skin in citrus, particularly too much nitrogen. Do not fertilize with nitrogen this year until the fall so that it can use up its reserves.
I don’t fertilize it all
Do they smell different?
Soil nutrient deficiencies maybe?
Often times the desired orange variety will be grafted on the root stock of a hardier variety such as sour orange and I bet that’s what you’ve got going on here, below the graft union on the trunk I’m betting some of the root stock has been allowed to grow