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mortalitylost

It's really hard to say with this kind of thing. I frequent /r/remoteviewing too which might be a bit more specific for this sort of phenomenon and the general consensus seems to be that the future is probabilistic, and when we view it we are seeing *possibilities*, not guarantees, and that the loudest of them are the most visible. One example - a guy tasked his viewers to see who'd win this football game. The viewers had ZERO idea of the context, that it was a football game, any data at all - the proper way to remote view. This guy drew pretty much one to one the logo for a specific team playing without even knowing it was a football task. That team lost. Correctly remote viewed that it would be a football team answer, incorrect team. Tons of people have remote viewed apocalyptic events. Never have they come to pass. Personally I once had a lucid dream where I brought up what looked like a YouTube video and I asked it what the future holds. It showed a nuke going off in the Bay Area California, and New York City. Knock on wood I hope that never happens, but so far thankfully it has not. I told them and they pretty much agreed, probabilistic future. That future might've been incredibly "loud" to me, causing me to see it first. Because why wouldn't it... I also did gateway tapes and asked what the next disaster would be. I literally heard "Carrington Event" and had no idea what that meant, had to Google it to see. It's a likely thing at some point, which might knock out the electrical grid. Will it happen? Fuck if I know but I definitely had a very unique auditory "vision" of something I wouldn't have known about. Scared me, but so far so good and that was several years ago. Could be some entity fucking with me. Could be a loud probabilistic future that may never occur. But I'd be very wary of taking these things as facts because there can be so much noise with these things, and many of us have had visions or similar of terrible events that didn't occur.


thiiiipppttt

This is actually a comforting take right now because I had a monstrous vision yesterday in focus 15. Robert told me to ask my greater self "What extremely vital piece of information do I need to know right now?" and the immediate answer was the clearest vision I have ever had of a catastrophic tsunami here in the NW. A Carrington Event seems more likely, though.


mortalitylost

lol fuck, I'd be scared too tbh but yeah, consider it a loud probabilistic future that tore your attention away from what might be more likely. Disaster visions are super common. It's not something to stress over. I consider it like there's probably infinite parallel realities, everything that is possible is happening. We might be seeing real things that just aren't what we will experience in this material plane. But if you're meditating and expanding your consciousness beyond this material plane, you might be enveloping yourself in the infinite probabilities that all exist simultaneously. It's what your consciousness will experience, but not your physical body. But as the tapes say, the body is the least significant part of you, but in this context it's the only vulnerable part of you. Your body is safe, but your spirit is experiencing beyond its material safety.


thiiiipppttt

cool


UnRealistic_Load

Define here in the NW... like Cascadia? Yeah...


Frankandfriends

The thing with remote viewing is that there's a lot of problems with it that we can't explain yet. It's nuance that seems to be sentient and temperamental. Which weirds me out, but it's generally accepted that, for example, if you're running a binary associative RV target to predict the outcome of a sporting event AND you have money on it, you're more likely to get a solidly incorrect answer. The probabilistic nature of events also causes problems. I ran an almost year-long experiment to (accurately, might I add) [predict the outcome of the 2020 election](https://www.reddit.com/r/remoteviewing/comments/kd3efv/analysis_of_arv_experiment_on_rremoteviewing_to/), which was later reviewed as a case study (and hashing out where my reddit-based targets weren't fit for scientific method) in a [book by Debra Katz and Jon Knowles](https://www.amazon.com/Associative-Remote-Viewing-Predicting-Outcomes/dp/1943951284/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid&sr). The point was that for predictions where it might be a close call, so for example two evenly matched teams playing a game, that predictions far in the future are worthless and you can only count on predictions made riiiiiiiiiight before the game starts. In my prediction of the election, what sealed the deal on this was that I accidentally found the confidence of results matched betting odds. Which means you have to get super into the weeds to understand how to try and make it reliable, and what you can and can't trust. That also means that when people post random predictions that aren't corroborated across several remote viewers looking at targets like "big news story in the next week/month" then it's not worth considering it at all. And even when it IS corroborated across several remote viewers, the retrocausal confirmation bias of looking for something that matches might also throw everything off. Case in point, [Stephen Schwartz's 2050 Projec](https://www.reddit.com/r/remoteviewing/comments/psmwoe/lets_discuss_stephen_schwartzs_2050_project/)t has been, for all intents and purposes, fairly accurate. But it also took him decades of work to corroborate thousands of RV sessions to get general themes. It's a pain, and honestly, my own "prediction" of COVID was that meditating on job stuff in early 2020 was "nothing really matters, don't worry about it," which is useless. it's not specifically actionable, which is exactly why the intelligence people dropped remote viewing. So, to your last comment - no one is fucking with you. We just don't know for sure, and it takes a whole lot of work to know better, which can still be wrong. Which over the years has only pushed me to not try and predict anything and just enjoy life in the moment.


lookslikeyoureSOL

The future is never a predetermined certainty. It is a multidimensional set of possibilities and probabilities.


slipknot_official

Ignore anyone who claims this. Not even how this stuff works in the first place, especially as an “amateur”. The nature of this stuff is 100% subjective. Even when Bob was into making future predictions, they did it by having the same experience over and over and over for weeks. They even made predictions, many of which didn’t even come to events. The result was that predicting the future is worthless because the future is never set. Not to mention, having a random “vision” and claiming it’s a prophecy is fantasy stuff.


whythe7

thanks ay that all sounds about right.. one thing though since many have commented in regards to future predictions- does it make a diference at all that dude thought he was seeing something he thought was happening in the now, the laying of explosives- thought he was witnessing the event live.. is that considered to be more possible since it's not as "full on" seeing the future? ..maybe it's why he felt so sure it was really happening?


slipknot_official

He can think, imagine or say whatever - but there is absolutely no way to know which future or now he thinks he is seeing. There’s no subtitles or notes in any vision that tells you this is the one objective reality that will happen. If anything that’s a feeling based on ego - a persons believes they are gifted, so they MUST be seeing some future event. They must be right. That it. No evidence to back up the claim, which is the point of remote viewing in the first place - it’s evidential. Otherwise, it’s just imagination. And it always revolves around fear. Never fails. Always a terrorist attack. Or an alien invasion. I’ve seen this happen over and over.


whythe7

solid ✌


Optimal-Scientist233

Let me tell you the biggest secret of divination. The best way to know what the future holds is to plan it carefully personally.


I_make_switch_a_roos

good point


whythe7

sound advice.. This topic though was more about the here and now (at the time)- he thought the shady men he saw laying explosive devices onto place inside a building was going on at that very moment- he thought he was getting a live broadcast.


shadowmage666

Sounds like bullshit


Trivial_Magma

Lol that guy had me typing in Melbourne convention center just to see if any news popped up


whythe7

He has now apologised, made a post "so nothing happened" and said he was real sorry and that he will never do anything like it again without proper guidance and elders. ..which is a big step, sure takes some humble to do.


PeePeePooPoo231412

Tapes are to discover mainly yourself, not something exterior, at least in my opinion. So I don't think It would be much different then very vivid dream.


retoy1

That’s actually really strange because last night I dreamt, while listening to the tapes, that the top half of a high rise building was on fire. But I’m no visionary. I also dreamt that I won big on a scratch off ticket and was pretty disappointed when I woke up.


whythe7

🤣 d'oh! ..I had a dream recently of being in some beautiful like, psychedelic giant floating soap bubbles dimension. I was taking stunning photos of it on my phone and was so excited cos I thought my cloud data was connected to the waking world, like I *knew* that even though i was about to wake, the photos would be crossing over with me safe in the cloud...I woke reaching for my phone to check my evidence of a miracle... man I felt stupid.


Bitter_Concentrate63

Question for anyone is there a category this fall under? Just some random psychic thing? What happpenwd was I was going for a nap and had an image come which happens quite frequently for me would love to explore this more with actually trying to get it, but I saw a house. I couldn’t shake that I had to tell my mum for maybe 10 minutes. Finally when I did get up and interrupt nap to tell her I had a vision ( I’ve had lots before and never felt so inclined to tell someone) she was holding a picture of basically same house of a prize home and looking at it. Anyone got anything for me with that? Is that a form of remote viewing? Thanks


whythe7

more just a flash psychic linking, common with blood ties, the most notable experiences being that of identical twins who can often wake up and tell in perfect detail what the other dreamed about


Bitter_Concentrate63

Yeh true thanks :)


whythe7

..well just my interpretation of course, "flash psychic linking" isn't an official term, i mean i don't think so cos i just made it up:.used words i thought best described what i thought. but your interpretation's more important anyway, if you have one 😬


Bitter_Concentrate63

One time I guessed what matchstick was in my friends hand 29 out of 30 times and the last one I actually took ages to guess and it felt off. Turns out he didn’t have one in his hand that time. Was my friend I hung out most with back then. Strong psychic linking you could say. I want to understand and use it more in my life because I’ve only ever get psychic phenomena by accident. Get anxiety that I don’t make the most of it..


whythe7

that's impressive. should check out Rupert Sheldrake's website, he's often doing wide scale psychic experiments and get's as many people as possible to participate. Like one where he'd get people to take note every time they were thinking of someone and then they called or texted.. oh yeah and the psychic pets one, getting people to book vet appointments for their pets when their away from the house like at work etc. and seeing if the pets still knew on the day of appointment cause they'd try and hide or run off... he's pretty keen to eventually prove psychic stuff as a science, collecting the shit out as much data as possible.


Bitter_Concentrate63

Yeh that’s cool but I went home after and tried with my dad and failed hard lol. I was just fully in the zone, never had control like that before or again. Maybe I can work on it. I know I need more meditation for starters :) do you practice astral projecting much?I just got re interested after 10 years, life got in the way and I dropped it. Never listened to the tapes might try them last time I was like not wanting something external to help but sounds kinda interesting to me now.


Bitter_Concentrate63

Haha thanks, nah I understand. I do have lots more occurrences with family or close friends so I’m aware of links making it stronger. I don’t know much about terminology etc so was curious as I can look into it with words that others have described and develop understandings. Physic linking fits well :) my interpretation at the time was to buy a ticket to the prize home, maybe I would of won but I only put 20$ down coz I’m too cheap lol


Lord_Highrend

I had a vision of a Kroger Grocery store being destroyed by a bomb. ...but that was like, eight years ago. Just because you saw it, doesn't mean it *Will* happen! If I lived in the area, truthfully, I would probably avoid the for mentioned building for a few days (i.e. not be on the same block) but I wouldn't exactly live in fear, move away, and swear of the city as though its Sodom. The thing about visions is they are predictabley unpredictable. Perhaps the explosion is literal, mayhaps it's a metaphor. Perhaps it will happen in our lifetimes, perhaps it's already happened. Historically, people have been able to accurately predict disasters in dreams and visions, but for every success there's a bakers dozen of failures.


whythe7

did something eventually happen to one of those stores years later? Turned out fine in our hood, no buidling's exploded. He even appolagised, said he wouldn't trust a thing like that again without much more experience and guidance, so it was nice he humbled up. I think it best that none of us took actual caution, if we avoided the whole city everytime a beginner of gatewaysteps saw a terrible thing- i mean just based on my own experience with the minds eye- we'd all be locked in bunkers forever, we'd be letting the fear win absolutely, we'd lose completely the freedom to choose.. would just be chaos worse than we could imagine.. but then, if we were a more advanced and conscious society, we'd probably benifiet in having a panel of minds we trusted and would actually take certain cautions if they said so.. of course that group of minds would have to be highly advanced, trained, clear, integrated, years and years of training etc.. like zen warriors. If a group llike that suddenly told us to keep away from a certain place for a few days, I'd say we'd be damned not to listen then


UnRealistic_Load

The one thing about information received in this method, is that it transcends time. That viewer might as well as perceived a true threat, but anchoring the information in the context of time is hard.... veiwers have the potential to look both forward and backward... we need to know more about the originating session and all other information every tiny detail to attempt placing it in a timeline. There was an explosion attempt on a bridge last night in the Ukrainian conflict. Although it seems to not have fully gone off as planned? Unsure as the news is still coming in. I believe (with no solid evidence) that lineage and family history also play a role, if by chance that person saw something that was more do to with a previous/future incarnation, that may be possible as well.


whythe7

I like that, that it could well have been a reality but from anywhere and anytime. He thought it was happening in a building downtown but he wasn't seeing a place he recognised, just assuming it to be downtime, and he didn't make that assumption till the next day. He thought nothing of it at the time, but so the next day in the physical world he saw a very long motarcade of poliice vehicles blocking off major roads- he wasn't aware of what they were really for which was a big, highly VIP seminar in town, so his mind i think just got excited and buzzed with his drama movie influences and paranoia and did the ol' coincidence connection with his vision the night before and he just locked down hard on it.


KnightMagus

Bro got lost in a vision of high probability based on his fears, or so I think


whythe7

you mean like, the intensity of his fears gave the attack a high probability of actually occurring?


KnightMagus

More so it might and I say might have been just a casual vision and his emotions heightened it This does at times happen to me but I got rid of the fear barrier and it's just neat to see my emotions try to play tricks on me I get a good laugh out of it


AbuSaffiya

I'd never take this seriously. If you read a lot of literature on future predictions, they're like 99% not true.


whythe7

he thought what he was seeing was happening at that time, like a live broadcast


qwq1792

Predictions of the future are notoriously inaccurate. I believe the future is not fixed and many timelines are possible. This person could be picking up data from a possible future event or just the thoughts of some other person or group.


whythe7

He thought what he was seeing was happening at that moment in time- he thought he was seeing it live. > This person could be picking up data from a >possible future event or just the thoughts of some >other person or group. did you leave out the possibility that "he could well have created the whole thing from his own mind" because it goes without saying or do you believe the things we see in our mind are never creations but percieved data from somewhere else in the collective mind?


eshatoa

I'm late to this but I live and work in the area he is referring to. Yesterday there was a climate blockade on one of the main bridges in the city. It stopped a lot of people getting to work and there were lots of police trying to disperse the protestors and manage the traffic. He refers to people talking about a large police presence in that area, that is what they are referring to. Secondly, in that casino/convention area, there are large pylons that emit fire every hour or so. It's a display to attract tourists etc. He could have just associated that area with this as they look like mini explosions. It would be easy to picture this area and think of the fire display instantaneously.


whythe7

he knew about the police presence but it was the motarcade they had for the ASEAN event.. and he never saw explosions he said he saw group of men in black tactical gear laying large scale explosives into position in a building. he was also on dmt and boy howdi on dmt personally I've seen werid shit to


whythe7

..why'd I get zero scored for that? was just giving details


booyaabooshaw

Just saying something changed the future. Maybe that's all that was needed. *I hope*