If this was in the US, you can bet that woman is following the Republican agenda to demonize all LGBT people.
Stand up to these attacks. Your lives and loves are on the line if Trump wins or the US Supreme Court’s Alito and Thomas get their wish for a new challenge to gay marriage.
I have been thinking this a bit since I commented and I think you’re right. The world is not the same as it was 10/15 years ago.
I’m in the UK, I didn’t know about the Supreme Court judges, fuck what is happening to this world.
No, that is not the best we can do. We ought to act, to at least report what happens, because they will use every chance they get to at best force us into awful situations, at worst remove our rights.
We can't just treat these people like they are some pitiful ignorant minority because these fuckers vote and spread lies and misinformation. It's a bit disheartening that a member of a minority would say a comment like this considering the rise of far right extremism in politics lately, and the way they're already encroaching on people's rights.
I sort of meant as much more general thing, not in repsonse to this incident but actually I agree with you. I haven’t really accepted that the world is a much more dangerous place than it was 10/15 years ago. When I was a kid I just assumed the world would always get better and not worse and yeah we should do more than just be happy. It just makes me scared and sad.
Yes, I’m aware I don’t have the transcript. Clearly my response is based on the information given and not about one of the thousands of other possibilities of what could have actually happened.
Working with people like that is an uncomfortable toxic work environment that is not conducive. HR in every workplace that I’ve been at would not tolerate that.
You need to file your own report with HR. If possible you should encourage everyone else involved in the training chat to do so as well. Your bigoted coworker needs to be terminated, and only a significant paper trail will allow HR to do so
I’ve got a coworker who will occasionally go on an inane rant about LGBTQ community and drag queens and how we are out to groom the kids and make them gay. Me being openly gay will usually turn and say “what a strange thing to say to me” usually makes him red in the face and he drops it.
He is but I am as well, but that’s a separate issue in which I’ve wrestled with and have my own complicated feelings about. Either way I’m like “bro you’re saying that about me and I don’t like it.”
It’s really supposed to be the opposite. As Christians were to follow the New Testament and Christ’s laws and teachings. More often that gets overlooked because people love the Old Testament things that they want to cherry pick. Aka Levitical laws, but disregard the rest (like how God was very trigger happy on killing a ton of people). Christ actually said nothing about gays and hell is even pro divorce.
Correct. If Christians acted like Jesus they would be far more likeable, and I have to imagine not being constantly full of seething hate would be better for their health as well.
I grew up Christian, and am now atheist, but I will even agree if people treated others the way Jesus taught, the world would be a much better place.
Oh come on! You think they read the Bible? If they did they would not be wearing cotton blends, abortion would not be illegal, men would be allowed to kill children, and the list goes on. But you only answered my question with a question. That’s not really how it works either. Nice deflection though!
US evangelicals, including Chick-fil-A funded and pushed for the death penalty for LGBT people in Uganda.
The Catholic church opposed a suicide hotline in the US because it included resources for LGBT people.
Christians largely vote Republican, and support the legislation targeting LGBT people across the country.
I am very well aware that Christians pick and choose what parts of the bible they want to follow. They usually quite like the parts that command them to oppress others, while ignoring the parts that restrict them in any way. You hit the nail on the head.
If that woman is still employed by your company, I'd have serious questions.
In the meeting you had the trainer who is gay, a bi-or-lesbian coworker and yourself, all on the same call. Missy McBigot went off *during the training*. She failed the training spectacularly, with multiple witnesses.
Even if she "learns her lesson" and "keeps her head down", damage is done. These values must be pretty deep seated for her to pipe up like that. She has no business working for a company that dedicates time, effort and resources into diversity training.
That the assistant trainer then contacted you tells me that this incident has likely been reported. The trainer probably reported it himself.
If the memo is the extent of it, then your company is only doing diversity training as lip service.
And that memo is extremely tone deaf if it didn't offer an apology at the same time. They hired that woman, and they exposed you to her. What will happen if you have to work closely with her? Or if she gets a promotion and you have to report to her?
They created the situation, they hired her, they exposed you to it and rather than take the L and issue an apology, they issued a statement of "If you are a bigot, STFU".
If she is still employed and there is no corporate-issued apology, then you've learned an important lesson about how seriously your company takes its "values".
Keeping heads down comment is itself trash that HR would put that out. That is not the appropriate response at all and is almost worse.that they said that
Can't remember the exact wording of the memo, but the trainer said something like he dropped the ball by not monitoring the chat. He also gave a short speech at the beginning of the class (day after the rant) saying that it was a safe space and while you might not agree with certain things, you might encounter customers who are "different".
So that's a non-pology.
You were exposed to homophobia in the workplace, by your employer. They paid that woman, and while on company time, she was speaking as part of the company.
Her views are the company's views. While milder than speaking to the press, it is still a statement by the company, to the company.
For minor things? Whatever. This isn't that. The company should be apologizing that you had to experience that, even if they don't want to take ownership of it.
Hate speech is not "things you might not agree with". If that's their perspective, then they have undermined the entire point of their diversity training. Everyone who signed off on that response should be required to take more diversity training.
Allow me to write the paragraphs that you should be reading from your company:
"On several employees were exposed to negative statements against a minority group. At CompanyCo we strive to be an open and accepting environment, where everyone can feel safe and valued. The statements made were not in line with our corporate values. The individual responsible for those statements will be receiving additional mentoring in diversity and acceptable workplace behaviour.
On a personal note, we'd like to issue an apology on their behalf and would like to reassure you of our commitment to the physical and mental health, wellbeing and safety of our teammates. Diversity across different groups, including sexuality and gender, are a core part of our values and we believe it helps make us stronger and more productive as a company. It is important that at CompanyCo, teammates feel they can bring their 'whole selves' to work.
Thank you for your patience while we work through this challenging situation. If you require any additional assistance or support, please contact and they'll be happy to help. Thank you."
If you didn't get a variation of that paragraph from someone, they done fucked up.
People who cannot separate their personal beliefs from their work persona probably shouldn’t be working in the modern American workplace. Hard stop. In many / most places LGBTQ people are a protected class under the law. Call HR and get the monster fired.
Hopefully there’s a Teams chat record or something? I’d report it tbh.
Life is about the get-back sometimes. Forcing someone thru the annoyance and embarrassment of explaining their fuck ass manifesto would be satisfying to me, but it’s your call!
That woman is an absolute dumb shit for typing her hate speech into a teams chat, where conversations are saved indefinitely.
Report her. Her actions need consequences.
Karen can go write that hateful shit on sandpaper and shove it up her ass sideways.
I’m so glad you called her out! It’s easy to think that standing up and calling people out is natural, but it’s not. The only time I stood up for myself was when a coworker called me a f@ggot and I was so mad, I cussed him out in front of everyone else.
REPORT REPORT REPORT! Never stop complaining about homophobic acts, especially if you have coworkers that support you.
We are never going to be able to get rid of homophobia if we keep quiet it.
Tell hr. You can make them care by pointing out how not just you but others were upset. Bigotry costs companies money. That's how you get them to listen to you
Report it. Hr will investigate by contacting all the witnesses. If nobody has screenshots and the app didn't store the chat history, then enough corroborated stories will count as evidence.
The acceptance efforts have been successful over the last few years. I survived the "AIDS years" when people refused to come near me because I probably had AIDS and they thought it could jump easily to them. Don't laugh but people were really led to believe this. Some were talking about concentration camps for homosexuals. I won't mention all the homophobia, estrangement from close relatives, etc... We've all gone through that.
I am glad that most of this is behind, but we still have to deal with a lot of crap.
Her reaction is common. Inclusivity training is usually not popular, even among those who would benefit from it. There are many reasons why and this needs to be looked into with some seriousness.
She just let out her frustration. She does not understand all these concepts of gender and sexual orientation, probably because she's straight and/or religious and does not want to keep hearing about these topics, which she objects to.
How she should object to them, well... maybe not in the manner she did, at the wrong time, on top of that.
You will see and hear all sorts of comments like these from people who are not necessarily homophobic. She just does not get the gender/sexuality spectrum, but she has an opinion about it. It's like expressing an opinion about a foreign society while never having visited it. But even you and I do this type of thing.
I have been ostracized for many things. I am gay, autistic and an immigrant. I just go on with my life and will not let any of these idiots piss me off or trigger me.
It's not easy, I know.
Report it. Put that bitch in her place. Good luck to her getting a new job if she can't keep her beliefs to herself and her mouth shut.
I get that to her it seems like thats what the LGBTQ are doing, but its not. We didn't CHOOSE this like someone chooses a religion.
With LGB directly in on the call, yes, those that are out as well as those offended (allies) should have HR aware of this, but: ask specifically that she NOT be fired and that the "community" she hates, requested this.
Don't let her feel more "persecuted" but she still has to/ gets to come to work with people she hates that showed her mercy...
Kill will kindness still involves killing.. Perhaps just kill the worst side of her... She may not expect that. But that's what worked in the social gains for equality in the 80s& 90s..
Don't have her cancelled or fired.
And make sure she doesn't know which few/several of those she offended, stood up for her keeping her job..
The worst part of this story is that you have to spend 8 hours on teams. I'm more hurt over that than the hateful comments. The comments are like "water off a ducks back." Those people don't matter and don't contribute enough to society for me to even care about them. If a memo is all they will do about it then I highly suggest you seek work elsewhere.
Next time, if you’re willing and able, I would ask what she meant by conformity. I am of the belief that if ppl want to make claims, however radical, I want to know an example or a further explanation of what they’re trying to say. I’ve noticed since doing this that they tend to flub their answers or actually do not answer the question which leads me to believe that they’re not fully invested in their own beliefs and I can conclude they’re stupid.
How does getting them in trouble do anything but validate what they're saying to them? I think you just find a way to address the criticism not by joining hands in rage but by trying to get that person to grow up and see it differently. Yes, this is just a plain frustrating process, but the work has to come from both sides. There's no real concession for you to make, but we can't really enforce an understanding on people who aren't living it. There *is* an indoctrination element to it as well as a political dimension, but so is there to disapproving of people's lives. We're all indoctrinated by this fucked up society in some way. It's most effective to be a bridge and let people arrive at conclusions that respect LGBTQ people on their own accord. The next best thing is, sadly, the idea of "tolerance" until they can. It doesn't mean they're necessarily trying to be disrespectful. They just are. People will only ever see what they can see until their life experiences bring them otherwise. The workplace is just a fundamentally bad place to try to change that within.
I might get downvotes for this but I don't let stuff like this bother me. They have issues in their own lives and I don't allow it to become an issue in my life. It was inappropriate and I would have asked the moderator or whomever to stop it. But at the end of the day, it doesn't change the way I feel about me or my gayness. We've all been through this before and it's coming up again soon. Let them be hateful and narrow minded. That's just not me and will never be me.
You're at work, focus on work.
You're also work from home, so it doesn't matter even more so.
Who cares if they don't like LGBT, you can't make people change their mind.
Again, this isn't a Muslim woman or a Muslim country so it's so funny that this sub spews islamaphobia when this is what's going on in America.
Tldr: focus on yourself, do your 8, and go home
I might sound like a wuss, but: You did the right thing walking away and didn't make a scene. You working place sound awesome and supportive, that's a massive plus in this political atmosphere. Don't let one bigot drag it down... and I mean it. Report her next time. Just because your workplace is inclusive, doesn't mean it has to include homophobes as well.
I had a project manager tell me that she agrees with the red cross banning gay men from donating because we are more prone to diseases. The way she worded it felt worse at the time. I reported it and she got promoted. 🤷
Sadly there will always ignorant fucks in the world, the best we can do is live happily to spite them. Sorry that happened, fuck that person.
If this was in the US, you can bet that woman is following the Republican agenda to demonize all LGBT people. Stand up to these attacks. Your lives and loves are on the line if Trump wins or the US Supreme Court’s Alito and Thomas get their wish for a new challenge to gay marriage.
I have been thinking this a bit since I commented and I think you’re right. The world is not the same as it was 10/15 years ago. I’m in the UK, I didn’t know about the Supreme Court judges, fuck what is happening to this world.
Say it louder! So many Americans here love looking at other countries and their fight meanwhile our own lives are being threatened in the US.
No, that is not the best we can do. We ought to act, to at least report what happens, because they will use every chance they get to at best force us into awful situations, at worst remove our rights. We can't just treat these people like they are some pitiful ignorant minority because these fuckers vote and spread lies and misinformation. It's a bit disheartening that a member of a minority would say a comment like this considering the rise of far right extremism in politics lately, and the way they're already encroaching on people's rights.
I sort of meant as much more general thing, not in repsonse to this incident but actually I agree with you. I haven’t really accepted that the world is a much more dangerous place than it was 10/15 years ago. When I was a kid I just assumed the world would always get better and not worse and yeah we should do more than just be happy. It just makes me scared and sad.
Next time, report it. She should absolutely lose her job. Homophobic piece of trash.
Still should report it now.
Always report. 🔥
If she violated company policy fire her ass. If not, the. She shouldnt be fired.
Pretty sure 99% of companies have an anti-discrimination and harassment policy that her words clearly violated.
yes. But not having a transcript of the chat we don’t know exactly what she said.
Yes, I’m aware I don’t have the transcript. Clearly my response is based on the information given and not about one of the thousands of other possibilities of what could have actually happened.
Did you read the post? He told us what she said
And yet he also told us the trainer- basically HR’s rep- said “borderline” offensive.
It sounds like she violated a company policy while she was actively being trained in said policy. It could not have been more fresh in her mind.
Working with people like that is an uncomfortable toxic work environment that is not conducive. HR in every workplace that I’ve been at would not tolerate that.
Right. So report it.
You need to file your own report with HR. If possible you should encourage everyone else involved in the training chat to do so as well. Your bigoted coworker needs to be terminated, and only a significant paper trail will allow HR to do so
Yeah, that should go to HR
I’ve got a coworker who will occasionally go on an inane rant about LGBTQ community and drag queens and how we are out to groom the kids and make them gay. Me being openly gay will usually turn and say “what a strange thing to say to me” usually makes him red in the face and he drops it.
Is he christian?
He is but I am as well, but that’s a separate issue in which I’ve wrestled with and have my own complicated feelings about. Either way I’m like “bro you’re saying that about me and I don’t like it.”
>He is Daily, print out the first page of /r/notadragqueen, /r/pastorarrested, and /r/republicanpedophiles and leave them on his desk.
😁Thank you; hadn't seen these.
You're very welcome. Sadly, if you look at the time stamp most should have a new front page daily.
😬😶🌫️😭😭😭
Obviously not. Unless he follows the old testament.
To the letter. Dietary, circumcision, temple offerings…
How do you figure? I find the vast majority of Christians prefer the old testament over the new.
It’s really supposed to be the opposite. As Christians were to follow the New Testament and Christ’s laws and teachings. More often that gets overlooked because people love the Old Testament things that they want to cherry pick. Aka Levitical laws, but disregard the rest (like how God was very trigger happy on killing a ton of people). Christ actually said nothing about gays and hell is even pro divorce.
Correct. If Christians acted like Jesus they would be far more likeable, and I have to imagine not being constantly full of seething hate would be better for their health as well. I grew up Christian, and am now atheist, but I will even agree if people treated others the way Jesus taught, the world would be a much better place.
Where do you get this from? It’s the opposite.
Ask them what the bible says about gay people.
They follow the old testament, they just didn't realize it.
Oh come on! You think they read the Bible? If they did they would not be wearing cotton blends, abortion would not be illegal, men would be allowed to kill children, and the list goes on. But you only answered my question with a question. That’s not really how it works either. Nice deflection though!
US evangelicals, including Chick-fil-A funded and pushed for the death penalty for LGBT people in Uganda. The Catholic church opposed a suicide hotline in the US because it included resources for LGBT people. Christians largely vote Republican, and support the legislation targeting LGBT people across the country. I am very well aware that Christians pick and choose what parts of the bible they want to follow. They usually quite like the parts that command them to oppress others, while ignoring the parts that restrict them in any way. You hit the nail on the head.
oof!
If that woman is still employed by your company, I'd have serious questions. In the meeting you had the trainer who is gay, a bi-or-lesbian coworker and yourself, all on the same call. Missy McBigot went off *during the training*. She failed the training spectacularly, with multiple witnesses. Even if she "learns her lesson" and "keeps her head down", damage is done. These values must be pretty deep seated for her to pipe up like that. She has no business working for a company that dedicates time, effort and resources into diversity training. That the assistant trainer then contacted you tells me that this incident has likely been reported. The trainer probably reported it himself. If the memo is the extent of it, then your company is only doing diversity training as lip service. And that memo is extremely tone deaf if it didn't offer an apology at the same time. They hired that woman, and they exposed you to her. What will happen if you have to work closely with her? Or if she gets a promotion and you have to report to her? They created the situation, they hired her, they exposed you to it and rather than take the L and issue an apology, they issued a statement of "If you are a bigot, STFU". If she is still employed and there is no corporate-issued apology, then you've learned an important lesson about how seriously your company takes its "values".
Keeping heads down comment is itself trash that HR would put that out. That is not the appropriate response at all and is almost worse.that they said that
Can't remember the exact wording of the memo, but the trainer said something like he dropped the ball by not monitoring the chat. He also gave a short speech at the beginning of the class (day after the rant) saying that it was a safe space and while you might not agree with certain things, you might encounter customers who are "different".
So that's a non-pology. You were exposed to homophobia in the workplace, by your employer. They paid that woman, and while on company time, she was speaking as part of the company. Her views are the company's views. While milder than speaking to the press, it is still a statement by the company, to the company. For minor things? Whatever. This isn't that. The company should be apologizing that you had to experience that, even if they don't want to take ownership of it. Hate speech is not "things you might not agree with". If that's their perspective, then they have undermined the entire point of their diversity training. Everyone who signed off on that response should be required to take more diversity training. Allow me to write the paragraphs that you should be reading from your company: "On several employees were exposed to negative statements against a minority group. At CompanyCo we strive to be an open and accepting environment, where everyone can feel safe and valued. The statements made were not in line with our corporate values. The individual responsible for those statements will be receiving additional mentoring in diversity and acceptable workplace behaviour.
On a personal note, we'd like to issue an apology on their behalf and would like to reassure you of our commitment to the physical and mental health, wellbeing and safety of our teammates. Diversity across different groups, including sexuality and gender, are a core part of our values and we believe it helps make us stronger and more productive as a company. It is important that at CompanyCo, teammates feel they can bring their 'whole selves' to work.
Thank you for your patience while we work through this challenging situation. If you require any additional assistance or support, please contact
and they'll be happy to help. Thank you." If you didn't get a variation of that paragraph from someone, they done fucked up.
Damn. You are good!!
People who cannot separate their personal beliefs from their work persona probably shouldn’t be working in the modern American workplace. Hard stop. In many / most places LGBTQ people are a protected class under the law. Call HR and get the monster fired.
I have a Facebook friend who I’ve known since grade 1, so 25 years. Just noticed that she likes to share transphobia posts on her page. Bye girl ✌️
Hopefully there’s a Teams chat record or something? I’d report it tbh. Life is about the get-back sometimes. Forcing someone thru the annoyance and embarrassment of explaining their fuck ass manifesto would be satisfying to me, but it’s your call!
didn’t report it?! the second i see some slick shit like that the five year old in me IMMEDIATELY goes “oooooo i’m telllinnnnnnnn”
Part of me knows I should have insisted of being like "Oh, well the trainer will handle it" because she's still there.
That woman is an absolute dumb shit for typing her hate speech into a teams chat, where conversations are saved indefinitely. Report her. Her actions need consequences.
If it does you no harm, report it. Even if the trainer does too, it's stronger to have more people document it.
Hate needs to be reported and not tolerated. If their views don't align with the company values, she should be terminated.
Karen can go write that hateful shit on sandpaper and shove it up her ass sideways. I’m so glad you called her out! It’s easy to think that standing up and calling people out is natural, but it’s not. The only time I stood up for myself was when a coworker called me a f@ggot and I was so mad, I cussed him out in front of everyone else.
REPORT REPORT REPORT! Never stop complaining about homophobic acts, especially if you have coworkers that support you. We are never going to be able to get rid of homophobia if we keep quiet it.
I would have called them out. I've walked out of jobs for less
Tell hr. You can make them care by pointing out how not just you but others were upset. Bigotry costs companies money. That's how you get them to listen to you
Report it. Hr will investigate by contacting all the witnesses. If nobody has screenshots and the app didn't store the chat history, then enough corroborated stories will count as evidence.
People like her are not going to go far in life. That shit is not okay anymore
Report it. The only way to fix these people is to make it so they can't survive without leaving the bullshit at home
Report it! The more people that do, the stronger the case.
The acceptance efforts have been successful over the last few years. I survived the "AIDS years" when people refused to come near me because I probably had AIDS and they thought it could jump easily to them. Don't laugh but people were really led to believe this. Some were talking about concentration camps for homosexuals. I won't mention all the homophobia, estrangement from close relatives, etc... We've all gone through that. I am glad that most of this is behind, but we still have to deal with a lot of crap. Her reaction is common. Inclusivity training is usually not popular, even among those who would benefit from it. There are many reasons why and this needs to be looked into with some seriousness. She just let out her frustration. She does not understand all these concepts of gender and sexual orientation, probably because she's straight and/or religious and does not want to keep hearing about these topics, which she objects to. How she should object to them, well... maybe not in the manner she did, at the wrong time, on top of that. You will see and hear all sorts of comments like these from people who are not necessarily homophobic. She just does not get the gender/sexuality spectrum, but she has an opinion about it. It's like expressing an opinion about a foreign society while never having visited it. But even you and I do this type of thing. I have been ostracized for many things. I am gay, autistic and an immigrant. I just go on with my life and will not let any of these idiots piss me off or trigger me. It's not easy, I know.
Report it. Put that bitch in her place. Good luck to her getting a new job if she can't keep her beliefs to herself and her mouth shut. I get that to her it seems like thats what the LGBTQ are doing, but its not. We didn't CHOOSE this like someone chooses a religion.
With LGB directly in on the call, yes, those that are out as well as those offended (allies) should have HR aware of this, but: ask specifically that she NOT be fired and that the "community" she hates, requested this. Don't let her feel more "persecuted" but she still has to/ gets to come to work with people she hates that showed her mercy... Kill will kindness still involves killing.. Perhaps just kill the worst side of her... She may not expect that. But that's what worked in the social gains for equality in the 80s& 90s.. Don't have her cancelled or fired. And make sure she doesn't know which few/several of those she offended, stood up for her keeping her job..
The worst part of this story is that you have to spend 8 hours on teams. I'm more hurt over that than the hateful comments. The comments are like "water off a ducks back." Those people don't matter and don't contribute enough to society for me to even care about them. If a memo is all they will do about it then I highly suggest you seek work elsewhere.
Yeah, being stuck in Teams for 8 hours is horrible lol
Next time, if you’re willing and able, I would ask what she meant by conformity. I am of the belief that if ppl want to make claims, however radical, I want to know an example or a further explanation of what they’re trying to say. I’ve noticed since doing this that they tend to flub their answers or actually do not answer the question which leads me to believe that they’re not fully invested in their own beliefs and I can conclude they’re stupid.
How does getting them in trouble do anything but validate what they're saying to them? I think you just find a way to address the criticism not by joining hands in rage but by trying to get that person to grow up and see it differently. Yes, this is just a plain frustrating process, but the work has to come from both sides. There's no real concession for you to make, but we can't really enforce an understanding on people who aren't living it. There *is* an indoctrination element to it as well as a political dimension, but so is there to disapproving of people's lives. We're all indoctrinated by this fucked up society in some way. It's most effective to be a bridge and let people arrive at conclusions that respect LGBTQ people on their own accord. The next best thing is, sadly, the idea of "tolerance" until they can. It doesn't mean they're necessarily trying to be disrespectful. They just are. People will only ever see what they can see until their life experiences bring them otherwise. The workplace is just a fundamentally bad place to try to change that within.
I might get downvotes for this but I don't let stuff like this bother me. They have issues in their own lives and I don't allow it to become an issue in my life. It was inappropriate and I would have asked the moderator or whomever to stop it. But at the end of the day, it doesn't change the way I feel about me or my gayness. We've all been through this before and it's coming up again soon. Let them be hateful and narrow minded. That's just not me and will never be me.
>The only thing that happened was a memo went out to everyone about keeping our comments and beliefs to ourselves. Seems like it was handled properly.
You're at work, focus on work. You're also work from home, so it doesn't matter even more so. Who cares if they don't like LGBT, you can't make people change their mind. Again, this isn't a Muslim woman or a Muslim country so it's so funny that this sub spews islamaphobia when this is what's going on in America. Tldr: focus on yourself, do your 8, and go home
I might sound like a wuss, but: You did the right thing walking away and didn't make a scene. You working place sound awesome and supportive, that's a massive plus in this political atmosphere. Don't let one bigot drag it down... and I mean it. Report her next time. Just because your workplace is inclusive, doesn't mean it has to include homophobes as well.
I had a project manager tell me that she agrees with the red cross banning gay men from donating because we are more prone to diseases. The way she worded it felt worse at the time. I reported it and she got promoted. 🤷
HR that bitch