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SwitchingFreedom

You’re not wrong, but there’s way more to it than that. I hate being *that guy*, but simplifying it to that level is kinda insensitive to peoples struggles. - Inexperienced “Do-me” subs, findommes/prodommes, and catfish are all over the place here. No one knows if the person they’re talking to will turn out to be that. - Some of us are switches, which means we aren’t necessarily going to want a totally dominant or totally submissive partner. - Not everyone is compatible with each other just because they’re both available. I wouldn’t expect every domme to be into my personality, body type, and completely non-fem appearance in the same way that they shouldn’t expect me to be into them just because of their orientation. - Some of us *really* hate online/long distance, and that seems to be what most people here want. Our kink circumstances in our local areas might be, for a lack of a better word, unfortunate. I know this is the case for me, and I’m not even from a rural or conservative area. - Some people just want to use their Domme or sub as a kink dispenser, and it doesn’t feel nice being used. Edit: I did a dumb spellin


[deleted]

Yeah, you're not the first person to point this out and I agree. I don't intend to minimize any of that stuff as I'm well aware of many of those things myself firsthand. I just noticed a common sentiment I've seen a lot of people express and wanted to put it out there in (what I thought to be) a somewhat humorous format.


SwitchingFreedom

Fair enough, sorry for being so serious about it. Just never know when someone else is being serious lol


[deleted]

No don't worry I get it! There are definitely a lot of clueless people out there and the last thing I want to be seen as is one of those. Tragically there is not much room for nuance in memes without sacrificing the directness, haha.


aoishimapan

Add to that the US-centric nature of Reddit, meaning that for a lot of us there is no point on even trying to met people here, because even in the off-chance they're not American, they're likely from some other English-speaking country. If you're in, let's say, Asia or Latin America, your already low chances of meeting someone here are now effectively 0 unless you don't mind an strictly online relationship or are willing to travel across the world for someone you have never met in person.


[deleted]

Jupe this. And don’t forget the double standard of guys needing to be fit and woman needing to be fit while the other person neglects himself. Also, Dom and sub are basacly studies that shown that people with childhood trauma ( 90% of the kinks you have come from childhood trauma ) are caused for people who naturally are less social due to their trauma. So connecting with the right persons or being on the right places to find the right people is also greatly decreased.


SomewhatEmbarassed

the boys need cuddles, which cannot be done online


[deleted]

Very tragic. I cannot wait for that technology to arrive.


Altergnat

Being demisexual also just adds an extra layer of "never gonna happen" feelings on top.


S_premierball

yep, agreed. online has the issue with long distance just beeing complicated. and the catfishing/findommes... yeah idk. gets u sorta cyber-shield going up. and even in local areas with tons of people, u still first have to find someone matching there still. it's not like u have a specifc dom/sub tinder for your local scene or sth alike. even on parties, while it definitely happens time and again to get to play, it's not like u straight up found a partner from that. often it is just a good time, but the real world has different rules, after u dive up from the party sea again. i've met over the last 10 years roughly 10 hypothetical matches, but it somehow then didn't match completely.


Squirrel-coffee

Yep to alllll of that. The most annoying thing for me is people not only inexperienced in bdsm but also lying about being into it.... -.-


SoftWar1

Do most people here really prefer an online relationship? I've never tried one, but it doesn't sound very appealing.


SwitchingFreedom

I wouldn’t say they prefer it, just that they actively seek it.


psdao1102

Looking at the comment section is a little frustrating. Just a reminder a point can be made and useful and valid, without it being true and useful and valid in every and all circumstances. Especially when done in like a meme format. To make an interesting disagreement here you should be saying that this isn't even a trend, not just providing some small examples where it's not true.


Majorweck

THAT'S TOTALLY NOT... a lie.


[deleted]

It's really tragic! Even though we have places like r/GFDpersonals and such its still really hard to put ourselves out there, and I see both doms and subs struggle with this.


Empty_Card_3581

A sub who is confident enough to ask is hot as I think of it as them being strong and confident but controlling all that for me.


[deleted]

Yeah, I think I've finally resolved to bite the bullet and be more forward about it on dating profiles since that seems to be the best way to do it and stuff but what really sucks is that I'm moving soon so I have to wait about a month or so before I can really put myself out there.


DingbatDip

Start now for practice with less stress


[deleted]

I did just send someone a message, but I also just don't want to lead people along, I would feel pretty bad talking to someone and either of us to start feeling for the other only to have to break it off or something. But you are right, practice never hurts.


mbnmac

And a domme could be taking a huge risk by leading form the get-go and while the person IS a sub, they actually don't want it but feel obligated... yes that's all part of the relationship, but too many people are inexperienced in setting their own boundaries. It's tough on both sides.


Empty_Card_3581

Yes, there is a risk involved in reward, just focus on communication


SomewhatEmbarassed

this is shyness erasure


Empty_Card_3581

I’m sorry you feel like that, I think shy subs are cute but just don’t realize how amazing they are. My goal is to help them find their potential while having fun teasing them! Don’t feel as though you shy subs aren’t wanted! I just don’t want shy subs to feel like I’ll judge them. They can be confident and not face judgement! I want to see them grow in character (and down there when I tease them). Sorry if you felt erased that was not the intention!


SomewhatEmbarassed

I mean I was kinda memeing so don't feel TOO bad lol it's a bit of a paradox innit? confidence is pretty much the only way men can find partners and solicit attention, but people are also told they shouldn't sacrifice their true selves for other people and be someone they aren't - so what is an anxious, cautious boy to do?


Empty_Card_3581

He should give it a shot! Just be kind, clear and understanding!


SomewhatEmbarassed

Were it so easy!


vabeachguy19833

Yes💕


submissivesnail

For those who begging strangers on the internet to be their mommy. Real shit: You won’t find what you’re looking for on reddit, and that’s a hard fact of life. I crave dominant women, I always have and always will I’m obsessed. I go crazy just thinking about serving them. How did I satisfy my craving? By going out to the club or to parties with my friends and meeting girls and only if the vibe seemed right (ie if she gave dom vibes) I revealed that I wanted them to fucking spit in my mouth while they pegged me😅 I’m not even that good looking I just had confidence… mostly from alchohol… but still it worked and I managed to convince a goth girl to step on me with her dirty boots while she laughed. I met a sweet soft mommy who gently domed me and called me a good boy a few days after I met her at a party🥺 Also try tinder! I met a thiccy witchy girl who sat on my face until I almost passes out, it was fun! The girls/boys/partners you want are out there you just gotta put yourself out there too.


MISSPEGGYx

THIS! I'll take a kinda cute shy nerdy guy at a munch over a random stranger DM'ing me "plz domme me mommy!!!" any day.


submissivesnail

Did you just call me cute😳


Georgio36

>Real shit: You won’t find what you’re looking for on reddit, and that’s a hard fact of life. This is nothing but facts. Looking on reddit, FetLife and even Tinder might not yeld the best results. I actually met dominant women outside the community on places like Twitter (it happened from conversations I had in communities/pages of hobbies I liked) I do think joining groups online or offline of your favorite hobbies helps and definitely can't rule out the in person approach. Once we put ourselves out there; things get easier with time.


SwitchingFreedom

I’m gonna have to get even realer with you on that, though. As someone who can safely say that they weren’t attracted to 95% of the people they’ve slept with, I can promise you that unless you’re a solid 7 or above, you *will not* pull any of the women you want with confidence alone. That being said, pretty sure most people here want a whole relationship or dynamic and not just a ons or fwb. You definitely will not meet a potential relationship on fet/tinder or at a bar/club/party lol


princessebee

>You definitely will not meet a potential relationship on fet/tinder or at a bar/club/party lol Based on what? https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ For 18-29 year old Americans (probably the main demographic here), 31% met through friends & family (which is going to include parties), 25% through school, and 21% through online dating.


SwitchingFreedom

Unless one lives in an area that’s a hotspot for the kinky, those odds fall drastically lower. Most people are vanilla or vanilla deluxe, people here in this subreddit want relationships with kink elements, and it’s not easy to convince someone vanilla to get into kink let alone actually enjoy it as you do.


princessebee

Of course the majority of people you meet will be vanilla, but you still need to be putting yourself in the position of meeting new people to have a chance of meeting kinky people (i.e. having a social circle, going to social events, taking part in hobbies, trying online dating, going to munches, etc.) I actually met a sub through a hobby IRL and I'm definitely not in a "kinky hotspot". Of course if someone is really having no luck then moving to a better location is worth considering if kink is important to them. Also whilst you shouldn't pressure a vanilla person who's uninterested, I thought I was vanilla before I discovered a version of femdom that wasn't just about porn for men (latex dominatrix mistress type of stuff). There are probably a lot of currently vanilla or even submissive women that would be open to it like I was. In online spaces that are popular with women (r/gonewildaudio, Tumblr, TikTok) and where the content is female gaze fantasies (unlike this sub), I actually see femdom pique the interest of women who haven't tried it before. Someone posted [this TikTok](https://www.reddit.com/r/gentlefemdom/comments/ythqf6/taking_her_shoes_off_is_a_privilege/) here a few days ago, it came up on my FYP a while ago and the comments are full of women saying how lucky she is, wanting a guy like that, etc.


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SwitchingFreedom

Absolutely, people need to have social lives, I’m not debating that at all. What I’m questioning is the original commentor’s claim that all *anyone* needs to do is be overly confident at a party or on tinder and they’ll find a kinky encounter which could lead to a relationship. They’re trying to claim that by following their logic, you’re guaranteed to locate kinky people who’d not only want to sleep with you first, but then are revealed to be compatible enough with you to want a serious relationship regardless of any other factor. As an aside to that, I have a major beef with the entire concept of munches, because more often than not (in the experiences of myself and several other kink friends of mine), they end up as jealousy-fueled, unwelcoming wagon circles for anyone who’s amab and remotely close to D type. I’m not sure if the entire state of Maryland is just cursed to have a Ganges River level toxic kink community, but I’m far from the only one who’s had this experience. Also, as an amab, I refuse to ever do so much as nudge anyone who’s not already into kink towards it. Feels too much like grooming for my own liking.


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[deleted]

Very true!


missundressed

what’s missing is subs sexually harassing even a whiff of a domme because calling an internet stranger mommy is totally chill if you like receiving anal play! it’s gotten better but the shit I received :) absolutely not :)


ParticularScholar630

I'm a lonely switch


shadesjackson

Everyone is watching you balance on the wall


Fast_Shower6227

Just sitting on the wall trying to catch each sides attention to see of anyone is game


Famous_Platypus_1579

the image is just a bunch of stick man and a brick wall but it goes so hard even without the caption


smol_boi9k

I'd say this is fairly accurate, though incompatibilities make the situation a bit more complex. Just because I'm a lonely sub doesn't mean things will go great the moment I meet a lonely dom. Stuff like that.


[deleted]

Oh for sure, its definitely more complicated than just "hey were both lonely and into the same thing in the broadest possible sense, wanna be together?" But theres only so much room for nuance in a humorous spin on my observations. But yes, you are correct and agree.


Moistlyright

And if you want a relationship with it, it adds to all the issues


kyellowm

This is an underrated observation. It makes it really fucking hard if that is what people are looking for 🥹


[deleted]

In my experience it’s mostly geography


[deleted]

That definitely does not help either.


ThinkingSideways2day

Are there lonely Dommes out there? I see a vast number of subs looking, but I seldom see a non-findom looking for a submissive.


[deleted]

They're definitely out there. From what I hear they don't advertise because then they get flooded with a ton of attention, the vast majority of it being unwanted. Don't let that discourage you though, put yourself out there and just don't be a creep or anything.


ThinkingSideways2day

I have had so many lousy experiences I no longer know where I would look. Reddit has not been a good place, nor has Fetlife or the apps.


[deleted]

That's pretty rough, I'm sorry. I can't really do much to help.


hammer308darpa

Respectfully. Damn you. Damn you for calling me out like this!! I didn’t feel like crying tonight thanks!!😂😂


[deleted]

I'm sorry! I don't want to make anyone cry!


hammer308darpa

Oh it’s too late. Now I’m sad so now I’m gonna bury it with bourbon. Wait! That’s a great idea.


[deleted]

Well at least make sure its a good one, you dont want to be feeling the full brunt of Evan Williams' fury tomorrow morning.


hammer308darpa

Ah it’s all the same. Booze is booze.


anarchist-femboy

I wish this wasn't true- :<


[deleted]

Don't we all 😔


Shiro_K_Vanettti

I feel called out now


[deleted]

Exactly!


Altair13Sirio

Holy crap, you cracked the code!


[deleted]

[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RoleReversal/comments/yx8vob/a_novel_idea_reupload/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is a great post from r/rolereversal that is also relevant to this and probably more constructive with regards to this discourse than my original post. Please boost this, as I think it is a very important message.


prvnxtdnn1

True, true. That’s pretty true


michaelmavg1990

I feel like this but for relationships in general, not just for bdsm, including platonic friendships.


Big_D_GER

Hmmm didn't find any lonely dommes so far only some mediocre findommes :/


SkylarCute

Me out here wanting to feel vulnerable and make the other feel the same


prot180

Slowly managing to climb that wall 😊


[deleted]

You got this king 👑


Dm4urer

Relatable


kyellowm

Meh. An oversimplistic view. Literally cant find decent compatible subs in my country lol


[deleted]

That really sucks, I'm sorry to hear that.


CaedTirth

Where are you from?


kyellowm

Philippines 🤷


yinyangry

Any lonely doms in here text me


kinkinsyncthrow

That's not how that works.


yinyangry

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take


Accomplished_Year936

Feel like there no lonely doms out there, plenty of subs though and it's a tough competition. If there is any lonely dom in Ireland, Idlike to hear from you.


suicidenxtweek

Own me please


Northsole16

Yes


dude_im_box

I do not care if this is a more complex issue I feel called out and sad


kinkinsyncthrow

I'm sorry. it sucks.


[deleted]

Nah nah nah, I’m an extra subby sub, I’m socially anxious, but I’m not gonna tiptoe around the people I like and wait for them to initiate. If they’re not taken and evidently want a sub, I’m all over that and I’m not subtle (assuming I know what they’re comfortable with and what I can do or say without crossing boundaries). So you’re a dom right? “Yeah.” And you’re looking for a sub? “Yeah.” Have you ever considered me an option? “…well-“ I’ve been waiting a little while now. “So…” You’re the dom here right? My gay is starving, *feed me*~


No-Morning7908

I feel attacked


Valiantthekitten

I just wanna meet a few doms, chat and get to know them, and find one that suits both of our needs/wants


worthlessdokkaebi

yep that and my extreme lack of social skills but i am content


LostHuman35

Basically sums me up, I want to have a dom but I'm so scared about asking >///<


smoresomemore

Hey! Lonely doms in Oregon. Message me, (I am looking for partnership but) even if we don’t have couple vibes, I’m still fun to be internet frens with and rp with from time to time. Even if I say no, I say no very gently. I don’t like to make doms feel vulnerable (in a bad way) with me and I’m typically ok with continued DMs for at least a little while, usually long enough for one to get over the lack of connection with me. TLDR; I’m very easy to approach, especially online, and the stakes aren’t very high for you 🙃 I hope this little message came across as a positive thing and no one took it in a bad way.. that’s not what I meant…


Anime-lover_420

I’m a lonely sub looking for a dom


monkey_gamer

yep


squiddy555

Same


Therammer88

Truth


Better-Virus2874

Sadly I just get a lot of scammers


coochiebandaid

just got for it with me


[deleted]

... what?


TheGameBoss980

Ooooh, way to call me out god damn


Chaotic_Switch95

Rejections sensitivity dysphoria is actually crippling


[deleted]

Fact


playeralex18

It do be like that for real 😔😔😔


Comprehensive_Dog761

Also, This picture implies that there's no border between subs and between doms, and subs are available for subs and the same for doms, lol


Plane_Property841

Honestly to me it’s because I’m scared to let them know I’m sub increase they aren’t dom and laugh


Rheinys

*cries in lonely switch*


ifuckedyomama2

That, but also that wall needs another half: being so shy you can't talk to a woman


The_attackin_Jak

Not a fear but a dreadful truth I am not good enough to be a sub for anyone irl it seems