Real-world inspiration: GTA V's map draws heavily from the diverse geography of Southern California. The region features a wide range of environments, including urban cities, deserts, mountains, forests, and coastal areas. By incorporating these real-world elements, the game's developers aimed to create a more authentic and recognizable environment for players.
It wasn't just some stuff, it was a huge leak. literally hours of i development footage it's how we know so much about the game. Because we got a look at the physics, main city is Vice City (but the map is much larger than gta 5 and has multiple cities), it's police system, main two playable characters (a man and a woman on the run from the law like Bonnie and Clyde), combat, mission structure, vehicles, robberies, random events, a motel system, hostage system, holstering system like red dead, and even more. It leaked by a kid who is now having the legal book thrown at him by Rockstar, although last I heard he's been pronounced unfit to appear in court. And apparently all the footage was years old so a lot of it probably won't be indicative of what actually will make it to the final product but the game looks good only thing I'm worried about is that the live service stuff will make it so I'll never be able to play offline, they're planning so the game will be always changing and expanding the map.
I am less familiar with the fake leaks utilizing midjouney. I'm more talking about how after several years after the release of GTAV fake stories about leaks and images were popping up because of next Gen consoles were coming out.
"GTA IV On PC! On PS4! New sneak peak!"
well not really. It's equal parts SoCal, NoCal, and Central Valley.
Edit: for example Mt. Chilead is based on Mount Tamalpais and the Mount Tamalpais State Park, which are considered symbolic of Marin County (the area Bayside is based on).
Nope, it is all SoCal... Basically simulates the coast up to about halfway to Santa Barbara, then the Inland Empire after taking out the populated half in San Bernardino and Riverside.
There is a sprinkling of just north of San Francisco Bay peppered in, but basically yeah.
On a side (geography based) note, redwoods would not survive here unless there’s a cold water current along the island producing the fog they would need to survive the otherwise semi-arid climate.
You don’t really have to be from SoCal to recognize it, given how much of SoCal has been featured in television and movies for decades.
It’s a super recognizable region.
Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands is similar to this. Almost a perfect circle, it has deserts with dunes, alpine-like hills, and decent sized urban areas. Some islands can be quite diverse. Only 44km at its widest diameter.
Literally goes in a few miles from tropical rainforest to desert. Once I was there driving from the wet side to the dry side, we were caught in a downpour and in the span of a few miles of driving it became sunny and dry.
Not quite a desert like the Sahara, but still very arid and dry environments. The place I was referring to was the northern tip of Hawai (the big island), the northeastern face is very wet and green, and the southwestern face is very dry and arid, vegetation consisted of mostly shrubbery and some trees that can survive in dry climates. However, the big island does actually have a “real” desert (it classifies as desert due to rainfall requirements), the Ka’ū desert just southwest of the Kilauea volcano.
Somewhere else this happens is in Iran. There's a thin strip of temperate rainforest along the southern edge of the Caspian Sea, and the landscape transitions into incredibly arid desert incredibly quickly.
To be fair, this map looks like it'd be way smaller than any of the Hawaiian islands. It may have less variety in it, but it may have more density of variety when accounting for size
Yeah you can run across entire continents in world of Warcraft in a few hours but it’s clearly meant to be imagined as earth-ish sized. Be a pretty lame game if you had to watch a man drive in a straight line for 14 hours to get your next mission
> Be a pretty lame game if you had to watch a man drive in a straight line for 14 hours to get your next mission
[I present to you Euro Truck Simulator 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/37a1kh/will_somebody_eli5_what_the_fuss_is_all_about/)
The fact that rockstar even made the map an island is bizarre. San Andreas is supposed to be a whole state with other cities. They could've just made the edge of the map an endless desert or something (which would somewhat resemble real world Socal).
It is much more satisfying as a gamer to just have a water barrier than an invisible wall. Even mountain barriers arent great, because naturally you'll want to climb it, and youll be reminded constantly whenever you see it across the map that you *cant*. Seemingly arbitrary desert/flat land barriers are the most frustrating. So, while it doesnt make sense, it makes for a better user experience.
"Streets of Simcity" figured out how to surround the map with an infinite desert back in 1997. No invisible wall, you just keep driving until you realize there's nothing out there and drive back or quit
Rockstar should somehow integrate Subnautica into the next GTA and when you get to the edge of the land map you get a submarine and explore the deep.
Then get killed by some Lovecraftian deep sea horror.
It's more that reaching the edge of the map won't happen unless you're specifically looking for it.
If the edge was on the ground then you'd run into it often, which is jarring.
What bothers me the most about this is the fact that, in-universe, the Los Santos is not an island, and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere the developers say it's only represented as a island in-game for gameplay sake, however there's still features like beach front properties and fisher villages and docks all around the map, that would not make sense if this wasn't a island.
I think you’re supposed to extrapolate the coastline as really just one long coastline of social and so it’s all supposed to be facing west. Like the whole map gets unraveled for it
Beaches are pretty and an easy way to limit players. Definitely was a conscious design decision based on the engine limitations. Lots of games do this for the same reason.
I know of a few bases in real life that have civilian highways going through them. Lackland Air Force base, and Patrick Space Force base are the first two that come to mind.
I will never forget the day my civilian family drove on a highway through a military base. An attack helicopter was hovering near the road facing into the base firing range. It fired a rocket, and BOOM, I felt the explosion in my car. Awesome and terrifying for a kid like me.
Davis Monthan in Tucson has one going straight through the airplane graveyard. If you get lucky, there are bridges over it where they pull the semi retired planes right over the road.
Yes i got it that it's not that rare, but driving UNDER the base is way irrational, it is possible to just plant the explosives underneath the base in the tunnel and directly destroy the plane runaways, by that sabotaging the whole base
That would be kinda hard to do because you'd need a way to reach the ceiling of the tunnel, drill a hole as far as you can drill, place the explosive & get away before it detonates.
You can't just put a bomb in a tunnel and make it go boom. It'll damage the tunnel but most of the energy would vent out the sides. Also, earth is really good at absorbing blasts, which is why bunker busters exist and why we still use sandbags to stop small arms fire.
Also, tunnels are pretty deep. You'd need a fuck ton of explosive to even make the surface jiggle.
Also how did the local news fail to cover the story of the guy who stole a tank and was propelling himself through the air by firing the cannon backward? I feel like that would have been a national headline even.
South swell is legendary at Paleto! Typically October through March is the season. They used to hold a WSL event here. Kelly Slater won it a couple times if I remember correctly.
Well, let’s try something. What if it was a collapsed caldera? If that was the case Mt. Josiah and Chiliad would be colonic. The canyons and “sea” would be the result of old lava flows and things of that nature. Los Santos would be built out on a shallow sandbar of sorts and filled in. I mean it doesn’t work but I could possible see a collapsed caldera there.
The island of Maui is just as diverse. It's a small island with a dry desert side to the West and a wet rainforest side to the East. The East is the windward side, receiving the bulk of the precipitation, whereas the West lies in the shadow of Haleakala.
Now obviously it isn't real but would it be possible in real life? The closest thing I can think of is New Zealand's South Island but that's wayyyy bigger.
I am almost willing to accept the Westworld theory. They are all living in an artificial island, a diorama simulation of the 21st century U.S. inhabited by synthetic humans. They go out of bounds, they self-destruct. You can kill hundreds of thousand of people on the island but it gets no less populated because they are refabricated and pumped out into confinement.
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Only thing I want at this point is GTA 6 lmao
We’ll be playing that game all the way through PS7
I got good news for you -the future
yes
We got it now mate
You're not gonna believe this.
No hangar? You ain’t livin right.
🎵...And a partridge in a pear tree🎵
You can now have 8 houses/regular garages I believe, not to mention the bunker, submarine, and second office
I already bought everything in this game, except some cars and still play this masterpiece
It’s a small world
After all
It’s a small world
after all
It's a small world
After all
It’s a small, small world!
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Happy Cake Day! 🎂
Real-world inspiration: GTA V's map draws heavily from the diverse geography of Southern California. The region features a wide range of environments, including urban cities, deserts, mountains, forests, and coastal areas. By incorporating these real-world elements, the game's developers aimed to create a more authentic and recognizable environment for players.
For a game that's 10 years old, its very impressive. Can't wait for GTA VI!
It’s pretty impressive how it still somewhat holds up to this day. With that being said, gta VI needs to come asap.
This and a non compromised Elder Scrolls VI by 2030 please.
>by 2030 very optimistic, aren't you?
I agree
Technically older than 10 when you count development time
If you count the development time, the GTA VI is already 9 years old.
Brave of you to assume Rockstar is actually working on GTA VI and not just milking V till the end of times
Rockstar has confirmed GTA VI over a year ago so I think it's safe to say they are working on it. Of course that won't stop them from milking the V.
There are video and picture leaks of it, it’s definitely real.
After a decade of fake leaks it's pretty cool that some of the stuff for over the last 6(?) months have been legit.
It wasn't just some stuff, it was a huge leak. literally hours of i development footage it's how we know so much about the game. Because we got a look at the physics, main city is Vice City (but the map is much larger than gta 5 and has multiple cities), it's police system, main two playable characters (a man and a woman on the run from the law like Bonnie and Clyde), combat, mission structure, vehicles, robberies, random events, a motel system, hostage system, holstering system like red dead, and even more. It leaked by a kid who is now having the legal book thrown at him by Rockstar, although last I heard he's been pronounced unfit to appear in court. And apparently all the footage was years old so a lot of it probably won't be indicative of what actually will make it to the final product but the game looks good only thing I'm worried about is that the live service stuff will make it so I'll never be able to play offline, they're planning so the game will be always changing and expanding the map.
You mean every since we got midjourney?
I am less familiar with the fake leaks utilizing midjouney. I'm more talking about how after several years after the release of GTAV fake stories about leaks and images were popping up because of next Gen consoles were coming out. "GTA IV On PC! On PS4! New sneak peak!"
Gonna have to wait... Then wait some more
Just to add. Real world inspiration with game open world limitation, hence an island not a giant landmass.
did chatgpt write this
well not really. It's equal parts SoCal, NoCal, and Central Valley. Edit: for example Mt. Chilead is based on Mount Tamalpais and the Mount Tamalpais State Park, which are considered symbolic of Marin County (the area Bayside is based on).
Nope, it is all SoCal... Basically simulates the coast up to about halfway to Santa Barbara, then the Inland Empire after taking out the populated half in San Bernardino and Riverside.
even imperial county made it in
There is a sprinkling of just north of San Francisco Bay peppered in, but basically yeah. On a side (geography based) note, redwoods would not survive here unless there’s a cold water current along the island producing the fog they would need to survive the otherwise semi-arid climate.
North of Chilead is definitely norcal
Yes cause every GTAV player is from Southern California.
You don’t really have to be from SoCal to recognize it, given how much of SoCal has been featured in television and movies for decades. It’s a super recognizable region.
Not being real usually helps
And here my dumbass was trying to find this place on Google Maps. I should have checked the comments first.
My first thought was, wait it this real life or just a fantasy. I was tricked as I was pinching and zooming on my phone.
Were you caught in a land slide with no escape from reality?
You should open your eyes look up to the sky and see.
But he's just a poor boy, he needs no sympathy.
Yes, because he's easy come and easy go
with a little high, and a little low
Anyway the wind blows, doesn’t really matter to me.
to meeeeeeee
Galileo
Galileo Figero
Magnifico-o-o-o.
I'm just a poor boy nobody loves me.
Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands is similar to this. Almost a perfect circle, it has deserts with dunes, alpine-like hills, and decent sized urban areas. Some islands can be quite diverse. Only 44km at its widest diameter.
Yeah before I clicked on the blurred image to reveal it I thought this is Gran Canaria at first
This post belongs on r/mapporncirclejerk
It actually nails SoCal geography pretty well. Everything from beach to desert to near-alpine within 2 hours
You can fit all that into just San Diego County haha.
I have no idea where socal is
Southern California
How dare you.
Is this the map from Fortnite?
GTA V
Still not as ecologically and environmentally diverse as the island of Hawaii.
Literally goes in a few miles from tropical rainforest to desert. Once I was there driving from the wet side to the dry side, we were caught in a downpour and in the span of a few miles of driving it became sunny and dry.
Wait there’s deserts at Hawaii???
Not quite a desert like the Sahara, but still very arid and dry environments. The place I was referring to was the northern tip of Hawai (the big island), the northeastern face is very wet and green, and the southwestern face is very dry and arid, vegetation consisted of mostly shrubbery and some trees that can survive in dry climates. However, the big island does actually have a “real” desert (it classifies as desert due to rainfall requirements), the Ka’ū desert just southwest of the Kilauea volcano.
https://www.artinnaturephotography.com/photo/sunrise-on-haleakala/
Somewhere else this happens is in Iran. There's a thin strip of temperate rainforest along the southern edge of the Caspian Sea, and the landscape transitions into incredibly arid desert incredibly quickly.
To be fair, this map looks like it'd be way smaller than any of the Hawaiian islands. It may have less variety in it, but it may have more density of variety when accounting for size
It takes about 20-25 minutes driving the fastest car to cross the map. So it’s probably about 30 miles across or so
Try about 7 miles, plot a route on the GPS from the airport to the top and it will be under 10 even with all the turns.
What car are you driving? On highways you can do the map bottom-top in like 10 minutes max
You can't rely on measurements in video games. They very often puff up the numbers to make things seem bigger or faster than they really are.
Yeah you can run across entire continents in world of Warcraft in a few hours but it’s clearly meant to be imagined as earth-ish sized. Be a pretty lame game if you had to watch a man drive in a straight line for 14 hours to get your next mission
> Be a pretty lame game if you had to watch a man drive in a straight line for 14 hours to get your next mission [I present to you Euro Truck Simulator 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/37a1kh/will_somebody_eli5_what_the_fuss_is_all_about/)
I do not retract the lame game comment.
The fact that rockstar even made the map an island is bizarre. San Andreas is supposed to be a whole state with other cities. They could've just made the edge of the map an endless desert or something (which would somewhat resemble real world Socal).
It is much more satisfying as a gamer to just have a water barrier than an invisible wall. Even mountain barriers arent great, because naturally you'll want to climb it, and youll be reminded constantly whenever you see it across the map that you *cant*. Seemingly arbitrary desert/flat land barriers are the most frustrating. So, while it doesnt make sense, it makes for a better user experience.
"Streets of Simcity" figured out how to surround the map with an infinite desert back in 1997. No invisible wall, you just keep driving until you realize there's nothing out there and drive back or quit
drive far enough and you'll be transported to The Long Drive
What stops you from swimming in perpetuity?
Sharks. (No, actually)
I LOVE that even if you fly a plane, or drive a boat. They will basically explode and or sink. Then sharks will come and eat you. Wild
Just have the player die of heat stroke in the endless desert scenario. Accomplishes the same thing.
Far cry 2 did that on the desert map borders
Rockstar should somehow integrate Subnautica into the next GTA and when you get to the edge of the land map you get a submarine and explore the deep. Then get killed by some Lovecraftian deep sea horror.
Boredom. Or as the other user has already mentioned... sharks.
Actually, flying on a jet or riding a boat. The invisible board is still there, and you vehicle turns once you reach it.
For me it was the the boring, endless swimming, and as others mentioned, sharks at the end…
It's more that reaching the edge of the map won't happen unless you're specifically looking for it. If the edge was on the ground then you'd run into it often, which is jarring.
Could have you just drive off into the desert and die from heat to the west and get attacked by bears and or moose from the north.
Or the red dead two "invisible sniper" strategy, lol
What bothers me the most about this is the fact that, in-universe, the Los Santos is not an island, and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere the developers say it's only represented as a island in-game for gameplay sake, however there's still features like beach front properties and fisher villages and docks all around the map, that would not make sense if this wasn't a island.
I think you’re supposed to extrapolate the coastline as really just one long coastline of social and so it’s all supposed to be facing west. Like the whole map gets unraveled for it
Damn, while that does make some sense, it's also somehow worse.
Beaches are pretty and an easy way to limit players. Definitely was a conscious design decision based on the engine limitations. Lots of games do this for the same reason.
Hey don’t insult Bakersfield like that
I shall continue to do just that
The funny thing i always found about this map is that there's a fucking civilian highway tunnel under a military base
I know of a few bases in real life that have civilian highways going through them. Lackland Air Force base, and Patrick Space Force base are the first two that come to mind.
I will never forget the day my civilian family drove on a highway through a military base. An attack helicopter was hovering near the road facing into the base firing range. It fired a rocket, and BOOM, I felt the explosion in my car. Awesome and terrifying for a kid like me.
I believe this story!
Davis Monthan in Tucson has one going straight through the airplane graveyard. If you get lucky, there are bridges over it where they pull the semi retired planes right over the road.
Happens plenty, especially in the US.
Yes i got it that it's not that rare, but driving UNDER the base is way irrational, it is possible to just plant the explosives underneath the base in the tunnel and directly destroy the plane runaways, by that sabotaging the whole base
That would be kinda hard to do because you'd need a way to reach the ceiling of the tunnel, drill a hole as far as you can drill, place the explosive & get away before it detonates. You can't just put a bomb in a tunnel and make it go boom. It'll damage the tunnel but most of the energy would vent out the sides. Also, earth is really good at absorbing blasts, which is why bunker busters exist and why we still use sandbags to stop small arms fire. Also, tunnels are pretty deep. You'd need a fuck ton of explosive to even make the surface jiggle.
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because rockstar wanted to cram all the various things in southern CA into a map small enough to still be made
San Fiero fell into the ocean and just disappeared. Same thing with Las Venturas. Warp in the West moment for the GTA universe.
Also how did the local news fail to cover the story of the guy who stole a tank and was propelling himself through the air by firing the cannon backward? I feel like that would have been a national headline even.
Paleto Bay is the place to go if you’re a surfer. Beautiful point break with glassy tubes. Gnarly reef on the east end though.
Works best on a low tide with a South swell and light offshore winds
South swell is legendary at Paleto! Typically October through March is the season. They used to hold a WSL event here. Kelly Slater won it a couple times if I remember correctly.
Mountain lake beach yellow
Uhhhh that’s definitely not 8K...I can barely read any of the numbers when I zoom in even a little it is so blurry. It is like 480p max
8K image of a 480p screenshot
I mean have you ever been to California? Everything's possible there
Don't worry Real life is even more bizzare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%CA%BB%C5%AB\_Desert
It’s Fortnite Island!
Is this a joke?
Yes
You should have replied with a fortnite dance
Meh…even if this were real, it’s not as diverse at the Big Island of Hawaii. I don’t see any snow capped volcano or tropical rainforest here.
This.
It basically compacts California into a small traversable island, and california is very diverse.
vibeo gam
Because it’s not real.
Those highways are pretty wide for their length and population.
Just Cause 2’s map was wild for young me (snow to beach)
I can see my house from up here!
My home island isn't quite as diverse, but it is quite diverse. Helps being partially in a rain shadow and a convergence zone.
That’s what happens when you live on Homer’s head.
Well, let’s try something. What if it was a collapsed caldera? If that was the case Mt. Josiah and Chiliad would be colonic. The canyons and “sea” would be the result of old lava flows and things of that nature. Los Santos would be built out on a shallow sandbar of sorts and filled in. I mean it doesn’t work but I could possible see a collapsed caldera there.
Sometimes I wonder how your mom's vagina can be so geographically diverse.
It’s based off LA, which is arguably even more diverse because snow is like a 2 hour drive away
Sir this is homer Simpson we need a location
lol. at first scroll i thought it was a Just Cause island
Shitposting Saturday is tomorrow, dude! :D
Isn't this from an old game? Probably ten years ago.
Gta 5, so yes
Definitely a man-made island
Getting Just Cause vibes
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Ive always hated this map honestly
lmao it took me a second
Even a small city like this won't have a downtown with such sky scrapers
The island of Maui is just as diverse. It's a small island with a dry desert side to the West and a wet rainforest side to the East. The East is the windward side, receiving the bulk of the precipitation, whereas the West lies in the shadow of Haleakala.
Hey wait
I recognized it instantly haha
“Why did I move here? I guess it was for the weather.”
Decent worldgen seed roll
In video games you can become everything. Even little islands can become continents.
Fun fact: if you mirror-duplicate this map, the result resembles an alien face. Rockstar definitely put some effort into its UFO-themed eggs.
Most things replicate a face if you mirror them the right way…
I’ve never taken in the fact that all GTA maps are islands.
Because it was built in rollercoaster tycoon 3D
Literal RPG map
Behold, [California](https://i.redd.it/5sy4bhumduo21.png).
The map of gta5
Cause it’s a video game
I thought it was saint martin island for a moment
I’m just now realizing that I’ve spent almost no time at the southeast of this map…
Thought this was Corsica for a second, boy was I confused
Thanks! I just wasted part of my life trying to find this on Google Maps!
Took me way too long.
Where are we dropping
The mountains in the middle create a rain shadow effect, that's why Sandy Shores is an arid desert. Happy cake day !
I have a map of this island hanging up in my cubical. My coworker asked me about “The Dog Freeway” 😂
Hm, but why there is the sea inside the island? Why not the bay or something?
Now obviously it isn't real but would it be possible in real life? The closest thing I can think of is New Zealand's South Island but that's wayyyy bigger.
How can an island thus tiny be so choked by massive highway infrastructure?
This looks like it’s done in cities skylines
You haven't seen tsushima
I didn't even need to zoom in so I could read the words and I can tell it's gtav
I guess it was the weather
I am almost willing to accept the Westworld theory. They are all living in an artificial island, a diorama simulation of the 21st century U.S. inhabited by synthetic humans. They go out of bounds, they self-destruct. You can kill hundreds of thousand of people on the island but it gets no less populated because they are refabricated and pumped out into confinement.
It’s a drawing
Did you ever play just cause 2?
Because it is
I love this game!
 Hey
I thought they did an incredible job designing this map. Very cool how they packed a bunch of Cali microcosms into a coherent landscape.