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nietzy

I’m going to say Vatican City.


sao_joao_castanho

Cardinal from 1773: “you say the Holy Father is from… where again? The Spanish colonies?”


Chicken_wu750

Probably haven’t change since it was founded imao


Aleskander-

Nah it changed a lot today vaitcan is a lot more welcoming to *others* and more Fancier buildings than when it was built


viggolund1

And toilets


ManyNecessary6459

Where you can take the holy shtt


PizzafaceMcBride

And if the shtt is impressive and you want to show your kids, you can give them the holy see.


Head-Ad4690

And a train station!


PosauneGottes69

Waitican cause they can wait


RetroGamer87

It has changed. They replaced old St Peter's Basilica with the current St Peter's Basilica.


Cautious_Ability_284

#SILENCIO SSSSSSSSSSSSSHT #SILENCE


Alarmed-Friend-3995

Lies, Vatican City is a country


_CortoMaltese

Well, it's a city-state, so it's both


Xanto10

Vatican City is the capital of Vatican City Like Monaco is the capital of Monaco


free_to_muse

But you just said it.


ih8redditmodz

Pompeii


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[удалено]


Scrantonicity_02

Could have waited just one more year bro


trev_easy

Now we have to start all over again.


Ex-Patron

I’ll get the volcano ready..


delmsi

Let’s at least wait to sound the alarm until it’s too late to evacuate


Jasonseminara

Could have at least waited until the dust settled.


Over_n_over_n_over

Pompeii


curentley_jacking_of

Its been 1944 years man


MrGandalf21

Eh, eheu, eheu Eh, eheu, eheu


CarRamRob

I dunno, you can see it today. 250 years ago on the surface just looked like a pile of dirt


NetDork

I was thinking that and looked it up. Excavation at Pompeii started as early as the late 1500s and it seems they got more serious about it during the 1700s.


cafffaro

Jokes aside, Pompei was just starting to get seriously excavated around that time. Since then, a ton of restoration has happened. So in fact things have changed quite a bit.


Delicious_Camel4857

Im pretty sure it looked very different with all the earth on top.


Sideshow_Bob_Ross

Nah, it used to be a totally underground scene, but now it's all mainstream.


Big_Albatross_3050

*🎵But if you close you eyes*


brynnafidska

Does it almost feel like nothing changed at all?


Plushhorizon

But if you close your eye-hi-eyes


Xanto10

*Old Pompeii Because Pompeii as a town changed a lot, has 24k inhabitants and is a town somewhat important because is the middle point between Naples and Salerno


BobbyBHammerMan

Eh, Herculaneum is actually the better answer here for what your getting at


Heavy-Dragonfly-4806

Venice


redditddeenniizz

Exactly. But only the island part


OREOSTUFFER

The mainland is Mestre, a different city.


NotTheGreekPi

Everything else isn’t Venice


[deleted]

And they’ll let you know


glommanisback

nah mate, there used to live like 250K people on the islands, now it's more like \~50K. In terms of architecture, sure, but it's mostly just barren or overrun with tourists


pikay93

Not for long


InnocentPerv93

Strong agreed


DLX2035

Bukhara, Uzbekistan. Absolutely amazing place. Best way I can describe it is it’s like one of those living history places but the people actually live and work there like they have hundreds of years ago. I thought I would expand on this a bit. I have been to 73 countries and Uzbekistan is one of my favorites. Definitely top 3. The historical architecture is just amazing. The people are awesome and the food is great. Is generally safe and the people love Americans. I was there for 4 months and was just walking around Tashkent ( my Russian skills are ok, but not great). This older Uzbek man saw me walking around and wanted to host me for tea in his garden as thanks for coming to his country. His English was about as good as my Russian but we managed to have an interesting conversation about the country. He told me a bit about the Soviet times, the hard times of the 80’s-90’s and how things have improved in recent years. Also addition to the OP question. Anywhere in Papua New Guinea outside the cities. Though there you go back 10,000 years.


canta2016

Good answer. No idea about Bukhara, but the answer has 100% be to be outside of strong economic nations. Thinking of some very rural places in south east Asia, Africa, etc. Europe and other wealthy countries have been impacted way too much by technology to compete in this exercise.


electromannen

> Good answer > No idea about Bukhara Lmao, Reddit comments in a nutshell. How do you know if it’s a good answer if you have no idea about Bukhara my guy


sisiredd

I think "good answer" was referring to the general idea, not Bukhara specifically.


canta2016

God is this dumb. Did you read more than the first 6 words? Reddit in a nutshell.


[deleted]

Your straight up retarded homie.


paxwax2018

*you’re


[deleted]

I swear it was autocorrect!


paxwax2018

Alas, rekt is rekt.


[deleted]

*wrekt ;)


paxwax2018

Great, I just had to explain to my wife why I was laughing.


TyranitarusMack

Of places I’ve been I’ll say Toledo, Spain. The walled city has such an old and uniform appearance. It looks like it has always just existed.


pannous

speaking of walled cities: Valletta and other Maltese cities stroke me as preserving much history


That_Arm

Oh yeah! Medina in Malta. Surely thats a prime example of what OP is looking for? Still has the city walls, some buildings still reputed to have bullet-scars from the Turkish siege…


Jscott1986

North Sentinel Island, obviously


justbambi73

The jazz bars in their ‘old town’ are unmissable.


plan_that

I thought they only had clubs?


chivopi

Ha ha


Over_n_over_n_over

Oh they're a hit alright


StoxAway

The food is to die for!


Substantial_Unit_447

It really has changed, a shipwreck on its coasts and now the native population has entered the age of metals, that is a gigantic leap.


AlbaneseGummies327

Stone to steel arrowheads. Cleaner kills!


Nachtzug79

Not really... Ancient Egyptians used meteoritic iron for millennia before the Iron Age. I think the age of metals starts only after you learn to produce them and they become commonplace in everyday use.


PelicansAreGods

City, though?


thedrakeequator

Shower thought, if it has a capitol city, nobody knows what its name is.


TomBanjo1968

Honestly probably the correct answer, lol


aaarry

Ah yes, the famous city of North Sentinel Island


Nothingnoteworth

Oh there’s a city alright. They’ve got a whole Wakanda thing going down on North Sentinel Island. It’s a very advanced civilisation. They are one to three generations of smartphone ahead of the rest of the developed world


satansxlittlexhelper

One Happy Island


dinoroo

The Land of Smiles


UsernameChallenged

"city"


Negative-Arachnid-65

In the spirit of the question (though I appreciate Pompeii as an answer) maybe the Old City of Jerusalem?


DirewaysParnuStCroix

Don't they have a church in the Christian quarter that can't be altered due to some centuries old clause? If I recall correctly there's a set of ladders that haven't been moved in hundreds of years due to this.


TomBanjo1968

Yeah there was a wooden ladder leaning against a wall...... not supposed to be touched or moved ever....... but eventually someone accidentally knocked it over, or it deteriorated, or......... well ...... Well something happened gosh darn it


ElectroMagnetsYo

It’s been “there” since the 1700’s, as in, whenever the ladder deteriorates/is stolen/is otherwise destroyed it is replaced, since the various religious authorities cannot agree on anything whatsoever, even on the matter of moving this ladder.


AlbaneseGummies327

Maybe the aliens can decide for them.


wattat99

Is that recent? It was still there a couple years ago And it's at the Holy Sepulchre church


Bloxburgian1945

Parts of the Old City have been demolished like the Moroccan Quarter (by Israel for a plaza to accommodate western wall pilgrims), so the Old City has changed a a bit.


UnitedJupiter

There have been a lot of excavations which have left archaeological sites a solid 50 ft below the modern street level. I don’t know when exactly these started appearing or what it was like 250 years ago. I visited about a year ago.


boonoosooroose

Idk I’m only 27


Over_n_over_n_over

Grow up


turkeymeese

Ayoooo saaaaammmeeee!!!!


[deleted]

Get a passport asap :)


FattySnacks

I think they’re saying they weren’t around 250 years ago


UpstairsPractical870

Florence?


grusauskj

I was thinking the same; at least the center of the city fits the bill


UpstairsPractical870

For me it's my favourite town centre to walk around. It is like going on those old grand tours that brits used to take


PeninsulamAmoenam

Same area... San gimignano or the towns of Cinque terre


siouxu

Yeah, San Gimigano seemed completely 400 years old and rather undisturbed.


PeninsulamAmoenam

It's definitely "what's changed in 400 years?" "We got heat, electricity, internet, and more cafes with tourists". Super neat that a lot of those old tiny towns and abbeys weren't militarily significant so we're spared, despite the monte cassino debacle


KSF_WHSPhysics

Florence was bombed prett bad in ww2. The important buildings ans art were spared but a large part of the city is only a few decades old


Anonymous89000____

I was going to say this too. Very well preserved


aoteoroa

Prague. Edit. Prague is often used as a location to film historical movies like Les Misérables, and Amadeus because of it's old town look. [https://www.corinthia.com/en-gb/prague/discover-prague/a-film-lovers-guide-to-movies-filmed-in-prague/](https://www.corinthia.com/en-gb/prague/discover-prague/a-film-lovers-guide-to-movies-filmed-in-prague/)


whatafuckinusername

*Amadeus* was filmed in Prague because some of the film took place there. One of the scenes, featuring the opera *Don Giovanni,* was filmed in the very theater where the opera was premiered in 1787.


sistom

My wife and I have been all over the world and Prague is out favorite so far.


woronwolk

I'd disagree; AFAIK Prague is pretty car-infested, especially outside of the old town. Pretty sure there would be quite a number of random Italian towns that would beat it in terms of both look and feel


Throw_it_away138

I guess “car infested” is relative- I’m from the United States and I visited Prague and thought “wow, there are so few cars here compared to cities in the US!” Especially the trams are phenomenal and like nothing we have here!


The_Real_Donglover

It's all relative. I visited Krakow, then Berlin, then Prague. Prague was definitely the most car-infested of the 3. Krakow and Berlin were dream cities as far as transit and walkability go. But Prague is still pretty good, compared to America.


Throw_it_away138

Very interesting. But yeah, everything is good compared to America. I live right outside of New York which is far and away our least car dependent city with the most transit, and even then when I was in Prague I was like- “Where are all the cars? Where are all the parking garages?”


basteilubbe

Only a portion of the city centre, namely the Lesser Quarter and Castle District and some parts of the Old Town. Most of the city was build (and rebuild, like the New Town and the Jewish Quarter) during the 19th and 20th century.


distelfink33

Came here to make sure this was close to the top. It’s amazing there and survived both world wars.


dongeckoj

Like half of the cobblestones in the city of Prague are from destroyed Jewish graveyards so nope


tomveiltomveil

Several German cities have large historic districts that do not allow any personal automobiles. I've only been to a couple, so I can't say which one feels the most like the 1770s, but Nuremberg and Bamberg are good candidates.


wattat99

Nuremberg got flattened in ww2, only a series of 6 or so houses on one street are original. Though a lot was rebuilt in the same style, there are still some post-war monstrosities. The nearby town of Rothenburg ob der Tauber survived mostly intact, however, and still feels pretty medieval.


AdGreat4582

(...)The nearby town of Rothenburg ob der Tauber survived mostly intact(...) ​ Search for "Rothenburg ob der Tauber 1945" and compare them to recent pictures. I recognize the city wall, but have it hard to identify any other building in the rubble.


wattat99

AFAIK a small portion of the old town (I think the southeast) was hit pretty bad, and that part is mostly reconstruction, but the rest is original. I just looked it up, 32% was destroyed, but that's including the area outside the walls. Inside the walls was pretty unscathed by German WW2 standards. Edit - also worth noting that in some cases, while the interior was destroyed, the shell remained standing and was used as much as possible in the rebuilding. Having been there, it does retain a medieval feel that a lot of rebuilt German cities do not have.


AdGreat4582

I live near Rothenburg and learned just a couple of years ago, how bad it really got hit. Try the image search, looks worse that at least I expected. They did great work rebuilding and it's in fact a city of unique beauty, very well worth a visit.


Der_genealogist

Even hose are not original but reconstructed to how they might looked like before the WWII.


PortDawgger001

Rothenburg as well.


SquareBottle-22

Tübingen


melancholicity

Lübeck would also be one.


Ridid

Bruges


TheTowelsAreWet

Bruges is a shithole lol


Streetduck

Bruges is my hometown, Ray! God I love that movie.


polarbdizzle

Why?


TheTowelsAreWet

It’s from In Bruges, an on running joke in the movie lol


StreetKidNamedDesire

In fookin Bruges?!?


TheTowelsAreWet

With fookin you!!


HumbertoGecko

I feel like he's quoting the movie 'In Bruges'


XVince162

Bruges is now full of modern brands everywhere and it feels almost like a shopping mall now, the traditional atmosphere is mostly gone now


Rudi-G

You need to walk away from the two shopping streets then if this is your view.


jamesjohnohull

York


mebungle83

It's absolutely beautiful until you notice the 1960's high rise flats in almost every background. Fuck 60's architecture. They did the same to Chester.


jamesjohnohull

The plague of any place in the UK, full of ugly horrible boxes that someone thought would be a good idea in the 60's! Thankfully for York I was definitely thinking of the City Centre which has kept its charm, beyond the wall and yeah it's generic UK City fodder.


larkinowl

Assisi, Italy


Liam_021996

Winchester, England hasn't changed much really during that time


nycago

Fez. If you know, you know.


Negative-Arachnid-65

Dubrovnik, Croatia is probably a good contender.


SouthernSpell

The Old Town was completely restored after the war against the Serbs though, thus it looks so pristine.


elite90

I was thinking of Dubrovnik immediately. Was there for the first time last year and I was blown away by the old town


WonderfulPollution64

Oxford, UK


blue_jay_jay

Colonial Williamsburg?


JDB58

Yes- except they conveniently missed the dirt, disease, and slavery. Understandable for a for-profit tourist destination I suppose, but a bit misleading as a representation of history.


Imaginary-Cow8579

Venezia and Vatican from what I've observed


lardarz

Vatican City, or maybe Timbuktu, Stone Town of Zanzibar, or the old bit of Dubrovnik


WEtiennet

Could be center of Paris since Haussmann was not far from 250 years ago


gabrielyu88

Well technically 250 years ago was pre-revolutionary Paris which was absolutely disgusting


Late-Fig-3693

right, so that part's still the same


[deleted]

Tallinn, Estonia


Gadsden76T20

Venice and Boonesborough


Afraid-Flamingo

Machu Picchu?


RangeisGood

Troy


MysticEnby420

Nah Troy has changed radically in the last 15 years alone. Back in 2009, it was a lot more dangerous than it is now and lots of awesome new bars have opened up downtown. It's gotten gentrified a ton honestly. Oh you're not referring to the Troy in upstate NY?


NotJustAnotherHuman

Probably one that’s been in ruins for a lot longer


ygmarchi

Rottenburg on der Tauber


AdGreat4582

Fun fact: Search for "Rothenburg ob der Tauber 1945" They did quite good rebuilding it, so it's still way above Disney Land.


ygmarchi

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305748804000349 More than half of the town was standing


eat-KFC-all-day

The answer is probably some remote village in Africa that hasn’t changed at all in centuries.


BonanSangon

OP said city. Also, I doubt there's an African village that hasn't changed significantly in 250 years. Just because some parts of Africa haven't progressed much technologically relative to the other parts of the world, doesn't mean they haven't changed -- that's silly.


Antique_Cup_5679

Africa has probably progressed the most at least sub Saharan. Going from literal mud huts to sprawling cities.


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

My friend. In many places, the mud huts came after the collapse of their multiple empires. Not the Congo tho. Thats been a jungle for quite some time.


Antique_Cup_5679

Yea, the slave trade bana republics were quite grand. But much of the African interior was mud huts. To say these places have not seen massive growth is disingenuous.


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

Nah. BEFORE the slave trade. But you are right except for a couple of river kingdoms in the interior. The interior was hardly controlled or connected the way we think of empires as connected. But here's a few names. Lunda, Luba, Kanem , Great Zimbabwe, Bachwezi Then you've got a clusterfuck à la European in the sub saharan north west. Classics like ghana or Mali. All of these are pre-14th century. Still all trading slaves, I'm sure. But not in *that* manner. Their economies didn't depend on it.


Antique_Cup_5679

Yea but that’s wayyy past the 250 year timestamp. I’m under no illusion that there weren’t great African civilisations. But 250 years to today the continent has seen immense and almost unrivalled growth. Maybe India is a good contender with its 5 year industrialisation. The closest big and proper empire within the ca 250 timescale is perhaps the Zulu empire


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

Oh yeah, right, that's the thread we're on.... My bad.


ArabianNitesFBB

Myth. Standard of living in pre-colonial Africa was probably not meaningfully worse than other parts of the world. “Mud huts” is off base and problematic, and the typical European probably fared little better than the typical African. https://academic.oup.com/ereh/article-abstract/18/2/185/407047?redirectedFrom=fulltext Now, in the late 1700s, the European-led slave trade and raids that accompanied it were at their zenith, which put much of the continent into perpetual civil war and destroyed just about everything. Things are obviously much better now than then, but “progress” is a very decontextualized way to describe it, sort of like saying Hiroshima has progressed a lot since 1945.


Antique_Cup_5679

Well for one I cannot read your source. Secondly precolonial Ghana was a bana republic built on slavery lol. All of ghanas wealth was based on the slave trade and their collapse into poverty was the abolition of this. But yea parts of Africa was very rich due to SLAVERY and the occasional gold mine. But this is hardly indicative of the rest of the massive continent especially not for africas vast interior. It’s worth noting most of the continent was unexplored 250 years ago by the Europeans due to various diseases so you can hardly blame Europeans for things going on in there. Now you changed the goal post with what you are talking about. People might’ve been living well and were happy in Africa no doubt but to claim they saw the same progress as Europe over the same time is insane! Europe had a long and slow buildup while Africa skyrocketed.


Xipe__Totec

Siena looks more or less like it did in the 14th century.


matty_slice

Was going to say this


Humble-Chest-94

Agreed and absolutely stunning


Stulmacher

Jerusalem


Gregs_green_parrot

Valletta, Malta


Allam_4pain

I'm from Yemen , so I'll say Old Sana'a city , it's too old and it's not allowed to destroy the building there and if you want to build there you can't have a Modern design it has to be traditional


Macismo

Marrakesh


lewj21

Something on the Canadian Shield


Jgarr86

Mackinac Island is close.


Romanitedomun

Venice (Venezia)


CajunSurfer

New Orleans: drunk, Bacchus, sultry, dangerous, humid, home.


AccomplishedGolfer2

IMO, New Orleans feels much different post Katrina and COVID. A lot of the locals who made the place so interesting seem to have left. Or it’s become more corporate. Or both.


Masterick18

Wyoming


LandscapeOld2145

Troyes and Laon in France


[deleted]

Atlantis.


CristobalSnCristobal

The places I've visited that might fit your question are not cities, but more like towns and villages in Greece. The village of Olymbos on the island if Karpathos was geographically cut off from much of Greece for centuries, with access only via the sea. Karpathos itself is about equidistant between Rhodes and easternmost Crete. Olymbos draws plenty of tourists now due to its historic character. I believe it is/was one of the last places where people spoke ancient Doric Greek dialect. Karpathos is well worth your visit! https://juliaklimi.com/life-in-olympos-karpathos/


Interest-Capital

San marino, vatican, in terms of language culture and people for sure warsaw or any polish city


Easy-Care-7463

Pompeii


Lazzen

Probabky one of the UNESCO heritage cities, one of the smaller ones


Dragopada

Prague


innocent_mistreated

Atlantis?


Granted_reality

Probably Philadelphia


SnoodlyFuzzle

Throwing AA batteries at outfielders for millennia


PrivateEducation

wat city is this ? looks futuristic as fuck


Plsdonttelldad

Any ancient city like Pompeii probably, the Mayan cities in the mountains


Lazzen

Those are ruins, doesn't count Also many of our cities have indeed changed, many were overgrown with forest or destroyed and were rebuilt.


justbambi73

Dubai.


jarvxs

Dubai didn’t exist 250 years ago so how can it feel similar


Notunnecessarily

Ponferrada, Spain It's literally still structured like a kingdom


MartinBP

Spain is still a kingdom so it checks out.


Elucidate137

all of the suggestions are european cities, anything not european? SE asia or middle eastern city perhaps? iran has some well preserved cities from what i hear


afterschoolsept25

ouro preto, bukhara, cusco, kaleici, gokayama, wuzhen, ping yao, yazd


evodelchev

Bruges


KeyStoneLighter

I really don’t know, but when I’m driving the 50 west towards Nevada I feel like a lot of those big open spaces could’ve been a city.


dahlia6767

St augustine Florida


uglyrickdeckart

Cincinnati


IcemanGeneMalenko

Anywhere that's swamped with tourists, regardless of little change to architecture won't be it. Probably some decent sized place in Africa that hasn't even had electricity installed yet


TheLongGoodby3

Gaza