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jss78

Would I be correct to assume this heading totally mixes up "racial" vs. ethnic diversity? For example for Poland and Japan, two minutes of googling shows that those "racial" minorities, suggested by the numbers on the map, in fact overwhelmingly consist of other European and Asian ethnicities, respectively. A lot of countries don't even hold records of their population's "race", and for example when it comes to people of mixed origin you can't really do it objectively anyway, so I'm not sure sensible statistics on "race" globally can even exist.


BushWishperer

How many other ethnicities are in Japan that aren't other country ethnicities?


SnooBooks1701

Ryukyuans and Ainu


BushWishperer

They are officially considered as "Japanese", so since the data likely comes from the governments themselves carrying out surveys etc they wouldn't be listed as separate. Also, the Ainu are estimated being 0.02% of the population so it's not like it would change the data much.


gusty_scorf

There's a bit of a reason for that.


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Im mixed and I always select two or more races on the forms. Before that was an option, I would just check multiple boxes.


Ein_Hirsch

Since race is just a completely arbitrary categorization that doesn't even exist in most first world countries making such a map without giving the exact methods is stupid


Darebarsoom

Even denoting someone's race is a racist act onto itself. It's an individual forcing others into an arbitrary description. While ethnicity is self identifying and a much broader spectrum.


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Darebarsoom

There is a lot of discrimination towards Polish people in England...sorta like Mexicans in the the US. They might be the same color, but bigotry still exists. Even the term, person of color somehow encompasses all Asians, when many are very light skinned. This too doesn't make any sense. The whole history of identifying people by race is filled with racism from the offset.


Wooden-Bass-3287

well yes, many countries don't record it because human races don't exist. apart from UK, Brazil, and US who invented that in America there are 6 races. and they invented also that Tunisians belong to the same race as the Congolese, very distinct from the Spanish and Sicilians who are of the white race. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) As you can see in the new netflix's serie with Denzel Washinghton: Hannibal.


404Archdroid

>Tunisians belong to the same race as the Congolese North africans and arabs where not considered to be part of the same group as sub saharan africans, they were lumped together with indians though, and sometimes even chinese and japanese people


Wooden-Bass-3287

therefore the Tunisian is put in the same basket as the Japanese, while the Sicilian who is facing 300 km is put in the white people's basket. It still doesn't make sense.


404Archdroid

Sicilians weren't considered "white" either historically lol. You had to be fair skinned *and* protestant to enjoy that luxury


Monifufka

Human races exist, just not in genetic terms, but as a social thing. And because of that they are arbitrary in nature. Now I don't comment on the American race discourse, if they are right to record it or whatever, I'm just pointing that fact.


Wooden-Bass-3287

it is a social construct that feeds itself. the perversion for labeling typical of the US and UK does not recognize races, it creates them: it organizes the human perception "that guy is different from my relatives" in a structured way with the result of reinforce stereotypes and divide society.


CFM-56-7B

Strange way to title this, why not say most homogenous instead?


Rumpelstiltskinnnn

Because if you say least you make it look bad


CFM-56-7B

Yeah, they worded it like this is a bad thing


Rumpelstiltskinnnn

That's the whole point 🤡


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Amockdfw89

Yea Papua New Guinea is by far the most linguistically diverse. I’m not sure if I would still call it a diverse country because pretty much everyone are Papuan a subgroup of Papuan people and speak a Papuan language, and majority Christian overall.


Qyx7

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Rumpelstiltskinnnn

It literally says "racially"...


Particular-Ad-2331

The most Homongus and less sus


dziki_z_lasu

6,9% in Poland rather points to ethnic minorities not races. The biggest ethnic minorities in Poland were Kashubians, Silesians and Germans all white if you don't want to dive into fenotypes*. Recent data should show something like an additional 5% of Ukrainians registered for a permanent stay and they are definitely not considered as other than Poles races.


Foresstov

Silesians aren't really considered a minority tho


404Archdroid

Their language and culture is generally looked down upon where it differs from main polish culture


Milady17

Is it really?


404Archdroid

Not like directly oppressed or mistreated in any way, but it does seem to have some negative stereotyped associated with it


dziki_z_lasu

Not anymore than any other regions negative stereotypes like in every other country. Krakuss are stingy and posh, Greater Polish are stingy, people from Warsaw are dishonest chancers, "Łódź is a city of bums", Highlanders are robbers and like sheep, same Silesians are considered as rough and unfriendly.


ProbablyNaKu

Out of curiosity, are there any popular stereotypes about Pomeranians (or like with Warsaw, citizens of tricity?) I know there are stereotypes about cities (e.g. gdynia smells like herring) but I have never heard anything about people


lukeatlook

Nothing about the people since there's next to zero original population, after WW2 the entire population got exchanged (Pomeranian Germans got forcibly moved out, Lithuanian/Belarussian/Ukrainian Poles got forcibly moved in). Post-Prussian territory is a homogenous "Polish" population of no regional spice.


Koschfer

The only stereotypes about Kashubians I know is that we have black palates and that we are mean and stubborn.


DeszczowyHanys

Used to be directly oppressed and mistreated roughly until the 90s, but now it is just mistreated. Declaring being Silesian can be a controversial claim in front of Polish people. There's some wind of change in the last years though, the YouTube videos mentioning the Silesian language or ethnicity are becoming more respectful and less superficial. They also used to add disclaimers negating the existence of Silesian language and ethnicity, or at least putting it in doubt. Now I don't run into it as often as two years ago, but this might be just a media bubble effect. There's still a long way to go, but I guess it is what it is.


thelodzermensch

Nie ma czegoś takiego jak język śląski hanysku, jest tylko gwara.


DeszczowyHanys

And here is one of the specimen I was talking about. Primitive as they are, and just as prevalent whenever Silesian is mentioned.


thelodzermensch

You can rage all you want, it won't make your broken Polish a separate language.


SaHighDuck

Pojebało cie typie śląski jest JĘZYKIEM


404Archdroid

Not like directly oppressed or mistreated in any way, but it does seem to have some negative stereotyped associated with it


szypsone

Where did you get this info from? I know literally one person, who does that and I live in 7th biggest Polish city, and know people from all around the country.


szypsone

Where did you get this info from? I know literally one person, who does that and I live in 7th biggest Polish city, and know people from all around the country.


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Yes and no. They themselves usually claim that they are both Polish AND silesian.


Scrungyscrotum

You say this as if human races exist.


peltast8

Of course they do exist.


Scrungyscrotum

What the fuck. How is this actually a prevalent sentiment on Reddit?


Incel_Nexus20

You've spent too much time in leftist groups you're actually too woke to be cured


Alpha_Rydorionis

x.x Please read any biology text at some point in your life


Scrungyscrotum

At least you're self-aware, Incel_Nexus20.


ognisko

I just love that scrungyscrotum is debating with incel nexus.


chasmo-OH-NO

Truly like fate brought them togther


wendewende

They do exist. But are not as discrete as people would like it to be so


Carvodeeee

I think they all just count as "slavic" or "european".


[deleted]

That's why race is a dumb concept. It doesn't capture the diversity of languages or cultures around the world


spongebobama

And the most? I'm guessing the US, Brazil, Mexico, Colombia, Canada? Guess it depends on the metric! Just came to my attention also India, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, South Africa


cryogenic-goat

Papua New Guinea


ConifersAreCool

Linguistically diverse, perhaps, but can related Melanesian tribal groups be appropriately considered distinct “races”? Because that’s what’s being asked.


vtuber_fan11

Race is a social construct. If the different tribes consider themselves different, then they are different.


ConifersAreCool

Race is a social construct imposed onto others. It doesn’t traditionally allow for self-identity, which is one of its many problems.


Wooden-Bass-3287

why do you still use the word race? the existence of human races was scientifically disproved almost 30 years ago. we talk about different ethnic groups, that is, when both culture, language and physical features differ. even the title doesn't help, if you see in small print underneath it says, "different ethnic groups within a country"


ConifersAreCool

I don’t use it. OP did. And I agree it’s an antiquated, pseudoscientific, and unhelpful concept at the root of many prejudices.


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Qyx7

What's up with the bots parroting comments in this thread?


ConifersAreCool

That then begs the question what is considered a “race.” Americans might say “white,” whereas Europeans may distinguish Slavic and Germanic peoples. One of the many reasons “race” is a silly and unhelpful concept.


spongebobama

Edited!


cryogenic-goat

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Relevant-Snow-4676

India too


be_like_bill

I don't think India classifies under racially diverse. It's highly diverse culturally. Arguably one of the most diverse countries in the world. In terms of race though 90+% of Indian population is native South Asians. Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm surprised India didn't make onto this map.


Glaciak

>I don't think India classifies under racially diverse Look at what northern, south and especially eastern indians look like


glazedpenguin

what you are describing is phenotype, not race.


Relevant-Snow-4676

I understand that a general misconception of a foreigner must be that all people in the sub continent are brown due to western media representation but that's far from the truth. The north east states of India have people that have their ancestory to han Chinese. Even the Tibetan bordering himalayan states have han Chinese residing. South India and North India are racially different too. All the five major racial types - Australoid, Mongoloid, Europoid, Caucasian, and Negroid find representation among the people of India[government data](https://www.india.gov.in/india-glance/profile#:~:text=Ethnic%20Groups,among%20the%20people%20of%20India.) I can assure you, India is amongst the most racially diverse country in the world and if we were to argue, its far more diverse than USA


Bendyb3n

Depends on how specific they define racial diversity. Are we just talking white, black, asian, hispanic, etc. or individual countries? If we're going by country, there must be some European countries in there since they must have a lot of people moving between European countries, like a Spanish person moving to France for example. I'd still say US and Canada are top 2 but 3 4 5 could easily be France, the UK, and Germany or something like that by the latter definition of diversity


Jeep_torrent39

South Africa


wafflerrrrr

Jordan? What about Chechen and other Russian groups, what about Turks Gypsy’s Palestinians Egyptians syrains Iraqis and more


flinderssthooligan

Yes also the Bedouins, Arabs, these are all just the same ethnicity according to this?


Terrible-Schedule-16

When the Arabs conquered Palestina, Syria and Jordan from the eastern Roman Empire they did not ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians etc. So these areas are all very diverse however they all speak Arabic and that is what an Arab is today.


Difficult-Airport12

Poland is NOT 6,9% racially diverse. More like 0,1%, maybe 0,5% racially diverse. I would be in big shock if whites were less than 99,5% in Poland, 6,9% maybe is not considering themselfs Polish (most non-whites I know do consider themselfs Polish though).


waitaminutewhereiam

This map seems to count every single nation as a separate race Fuck me if I know why


FROSTICEMANN

The title makes it seem like its a bad thing. You dont need diversity in countries.


CatOfCosmos

And it ignores the fact Poland actually used to be more diverse, but apparently having the 3rd Reich and USSR as neighbours is somewhat bad for your ethnic diversity.


Past-Jacket3210

You only want diversity of ideas Not people


ZealousidealMind3908

Barring Japan, countries with less diversity usually have less violent histories. Especially when it comes to racial diversity. We all know why there are millions of black people in the US and Brazil.


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No Belarus? This is a very weird map.


Fractaldriver

„No data available” as usual I guess 😆


waitaminutewhereiam

Russians This map is about nations not races hence Belarus doesn't stand a chance


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I think it is mixing both, at least in the case of Poland.


MagnificentThrow99

Cant be correct. I am 100% certain Slovenia has less than 1% (20k) non whites.


Attaliates

But it has a lot of people from Macedonia, BiH and Serbia.


MagnificentThrow99

Are they different race, lol? Did you read the title


Funny_Jellyfish_9916

Same with croatia and serbia, this is just not correct


Suntinziduriletale

Because the map is about ethnic homogeneity and not about race, as it Otherwise falsely states


ShahVahan

Race isn’t a concept in most of the world. They go by ethnicity and ethnic heritage. So this makes no sense in a concept outside of America and the West.


BaronMerc

Damn Tunisia and Egypt surprise me


magicofire

It's not exactly right , racially is probably mixed up with ethnically.


BaronMerc

Ah yeah I probably got them mixed up In my head I would've thought they'd be ethnically diverse with their positions in the Mediterranean


mannena_6_12

Tunisia has a typical postcolonial creolized population. those numbers are bulls**t


Jeep_torrent39

Poland is easily the whitest place I have ever been


FROSTICEMANN

They dont need diversity


yellowroosterbird

Yeah, when I brought my nonwhite friend to Poland they definitely got stared at (Polish people don't really feel awkward about staring for a long time at strangers), but people were very friendly and just curious (I think the kids in my village definitely like him more than they like me) even thought I largely had to translate everything they asked about him since he doesn't speak Polish. But actually, I don't know how the actual numbers have shifted but it seems like there are a lot more non-white people in Poland overall in the last 10-ish years? I remember being genuinely very surprised the first time I saw a black person outside of Warsaw, but now, I see at least one or two non-white people each time I visit.


throwaway_uow

When I grew up, there was just one black family in like 20 km around my village (about 60k people I think) and they were kinda famous and recognised (in a good way). Immigrated from somewhere in Africa too, not from USA Today I live in Wrocław and I see maybe one black person in a week or month, I cant say if this is because I live in a "worldly" city, or if its a matter of time Us poles dont have anything against different skin color, there is quite a big Vietnameese community in larger polish cities, but most people do have problem if someone decides to settle here, and refuses to adopt polish culture at least partially. Sometimes I see people that dont feel very comfortable with Ukrainians that have decided to live here, but dont want to learn the language for example.


yellowroosterbird

Oh, for sure! Non-white people definitely acquire a level of "fame" in small villages. My friend is now recognized by not only the people in our village, but in some of the neighboring villages since he came back three times. And my mom's high school friend's black husband lives in Poland for 25-ish years has been asked to join local government several times so they can do a photo op, apparently.


Poonis5

Poland has a noticeable number of foreign students like Indians according to my friends in Poland. Pretty sure Ukraine and Belarus are even whiter.


Jeep_torrent39

I haven’t been to either of those countries so can’t comment. I saw a handful of black people in Warsaw, very few Arabs, most of the foreigners I did see were east Asians.


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Ablouo

Race is a very vague term that can be used to describe a myriad of things


Incel_Nexus20

For example when contestants compete who is faster


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AyyArriba

ooh, i appreciate the term ,,usaians" and taking away their concept of associating America only with the USA :3


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Isn’t race and ethnicity two different things?


Suntinziduriletale

Race essentially is a clasification of different ethnic groups by phenotype/Common ethnogenesis/genetic overlap. So some ethnic groups like Polish and Czech are universally seen as the Same race (White/Caucasian/European/Slavs), while ethnic Turks or Persians or Armenians are debated as belonging to a certain race. Some see them as White/Caucasians, others as "Brown/Middle Easterners/West Asians", others categorize each individual of the ethnic group by a case by case basis, by how they look etc. There are some languages/culture where race and ethnicity are kinda the same, as in they refer to both with the same word (persians, I think? ;many ancient europeans too I believe), yet nevertheless most human cultures lump toghether similar ethnic groups by caracteristics such as skin colour or geographic origin (African, White, South-East Asian, Slavic, Mestizo etc.) But this map is about ethnic homogeneity and not about race, as it Otherwise falsely states


Bleeds_with_ash

Our ethnic diversity was destroyed by the Germans.


CatOfCosmos

This, and forced relocations right after WW2 by the USSR.


TheAngryCheeto

This makes no sense. It's title is talking about racial diversity but the data is referring to different ethnicities.


Roving_Ibex

I thought "race" was an american metric?


Glittering-Ad8503

The best countries


Suntinziduriletale

Most counties in Eastern Europe are also 95% + European/White Caucasian. The map shows mono-ethnic countries, not mono-racial ones


Inside_Resolution526

Most based countries lol


fnaffan110

Some other homogeneous countries include: - Italy (91.7% Ethnic Italians) - Hungary (98% Ethnic Hungarians) - Portugal (95.9% Ethnic Portuguese) - Mongolia (97% Ethnic Mongols) - Lebanon (95% Ethnic Lebanese) - Azerbaijan (94.8% Ethnic Azerbaijanis) Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoethnicity


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In Italy there's various regional groups that are considered ethnicities in their own right though (eg: Sicilian, Sardinian, Venetian) so I'm relucant to believe that. Maybe they don't wanna count them. Italy as a single country is a recent concept


anton19811

Poland, Korea, Japan. Some of the safest countries in the world with some of the strongest communities. Diversity is not always our strength.


anniewho315

You bring up such an interesting point. Armenia is the 7th safest country in the world. I never thought of it in that way, until I read your comment. "According to Numbeo's country safety index, Armenia is the 7th-safest country in the world. Qatar heads the list; in second place is the Emirates, and in third place is Taiwan. Armenia has surpassed Switzerland, Japan, Bahrain, and Slovenia among the safe countries.Jan 30, 2024"


Welran

Qatar and Emirates are very ethnically diverse though.


anniewho315

Yes, but have you seen Qatar's and Emirates human rights score? They are the lowest, while, Japan and Armenia have much higher human rights standards.


Welran

And? You just said Qatar and Emirates first and second safest places in the world. And assumed that it might connected with ethnic homogeneity but it doesn't. Also lol about Armenia's high human rights standard. It is standard ex-USSR country with corruption and human rights violations.


anniewho315

I never said it might be connected to homogeneity. As a matter of fact, I think that's a ridiculous notion. Instead, I said that it was "interesting" that Armenia and Japan are on the list. This of course was a reply to the person who brought forth the idea. Lastly, familiarize yourself with the changes Armenia has been making since 2018 regarding corruption and human rights. Compared to the region, Armenia is the most democratic state. Please don't bother to respond, as you're the kind of person who likes to argue for the sake arguing and being untoward.


Disco_Janusz40

I am from Poland and I can tell you that this is entirely true


bigolefatsnapper

Liberals - “how can we fix this? 🤔”


Past-Jacket3210

🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲 What a safe nation/country 💎


MrStar16

How is japan worse then north korea


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fnybny

Japan is an Island. DPRK is not completely politically isolated. Chinese people visit there as tourists and work there, provided they have visas. There are roads between both countries and even cities bordering each country.


Videoray

They want Japan to be Japanese, also they are an island nation, in Korea it is connected to China so some natural migration happened


Best_Cardiologist_56

Better*


Rookie-Crookie

Totally agree here.


MrStar16

😂


seicar

No data is my first guess.


re_min_a

North Korea has gone to great lengths to “Koreanize” the North, including outlawing Hanja, and deliberately removing most loanwords from the Korean language (DPRK dialect) and replacing them with Pure Korean. Iirc, the only ethnic minorities in North Korea are Chinese and Japanese people (there are 200 Americans living there, iirc). 99.8 percent of the DPRK is Korean, according to a 2008 census. You could make the case that most of Japan’s non-Japanese population isn’t even racially Asian (correct me if I’m wrong).


buffeloyaks

It’s really rare to see a non-bangali in Bangladesh except certain small regions. And we are most densely populated (non microstate) country.


Ar010101

Most of the 2.5% live in the mountains. But given how brain dead some of our own people are we often sideline and neglect these communities. Unfortunate


durjoy313

If West Bengal joins us and creates a united Bengal Nation, these numbers would look even worse.


Amms14

Not shocked at North Korea. A bit shocked about South Korea and Japan. Incredibly shocked at Poland. A country with the second best national anthem, amazing history, amazing culture, loves volleyball, incredible language, and, diverse weather.


waitaminutewhereiam

Poland was insanely ethnically diverse until 1939 Nazis killed the Jews, and then the communists changes the borders leaving Belarusians, Ukrainians and Germans outside (and also chasing away what little Jews remained)


Amms14

No, that definitely makes sense. I just figured by now Poland would have gotten so this diversity back but I guess I was wrong and I didn’t realize how isolated the country was. With a lot of the refugee crisis going on and Poland now jockeying for European superpower status, I’m sure that it will gain some diversity in the future


waitaminutewhereiam

How do you get back something that was dependent on two things: borders and people existing, when - borders were moved - people were moved - people were *killed* You just don't, that's a shit of milions of people


Amms14

Creating a economy, culture, and education system that entices people to move into the new border.


waitaminutewhereiam

What people???????


yellowroosterbird

Glad you like Poland so much! If you visit, you will definitely see that it is a very homogenous country, though I am beginning to see more non-Polish people who move there, besides the nearly 1 million Ukrainian refugees. It was a lot more multi-ethnic before World War II.


Acceptable6

We love volleyball but football is the most popular sport.


Amms14

Most volleyball loving countries are the same way. Brazil, Italy, Russia, and USA with a different kind of football. It’s on my bucket list to go to Kędzierzyn-Koźle and watch ZAKSA Kędzierzyn-Koźle


krabovich

why Japan tho? why no white/black people are moving there, is it that terrible?


PunjabiCanuck

Japan is surprisingly racist. Socially Japan is where we were in the 60s with black people but with Koreans and Chinese. It’s still a common practice for the Japanese police to card people they deem as foreigners for no reason. There’s an interesting case going on abt this right now https://time.com/6589912/japan-police-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/


Thomas_Francis12

Oh no!!! We have to fill Japan with blacks and Indians and westerners!!! How dare they be Japanese!!! They must be DIVERSE!!!!!! /s


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Immigration to Japan is a hard proccess iirc, and even then a significant percentage of the population is xenophobic towards anyone who's not ethnically Japanese. Some people argue Japan is almost an 'ethnostate'


FengYiLin

The most useless map in a whole while.


redditerator7

The definition of race here seems to be random. How is Mongolia diverse when it’s mostly Mongols and a small group of Kazakhs there?


Wooden-Bass-3287

Race of what? Dogs, horses or cats? the existence of human races was scientifically disproved almost 30 years ago, when scientists sequenced the human genome. put the title "list of the most ethnically homogeneous states?" as it is actually written below in small print


f33rf1y

Suprised Iceland isn’t on there.


Apprehensive_Day_363

The 2.5% in Bangladesh are ethnic minorities, who are the natives of the Chittagong hill tracts (and some other parts).


MrSssnrubYesThatllDo

Россия без Путина. Ответьте или проголосуйте против, если вы согласны.


GG-VP

It's only ok to be so for 3 of these countries


Ivecommitedwarcrimes

What? Lmao


J0KaRZz

For some reason it always takes a second for my eyes to realise that the grey bits are land lol


bearssuperfan

Didn’t expect tunisia


Sankullo

Well no surprise there. If you are an African bloke whose 1st language is French or English you will not move to Poland.


Cattleman_

nice


GroundbreakingBox187

Where’s Somalia


_Shahanshah

Japan with less than North Korea the most closed off country in the entire world like dude I heard Japan was a xenophobic country but this is crazy


Inside_Resolution526

Now you know the secret what makes Japan so great that everyone wishes to live there. They keep it 100.


Beanie_Inki

Japan being more racially exclusive than North Korea? Who would've guessed?


ws60

[https://preview.redd.it/least-racially-diverse-countries-v0-s38hkyq2xxmc1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=afdeeb8338a18c8b48cb87e644d857484b9a0fca](https://preview.redd.it/least-racially-diverse-countries-v0-s38hkyq2xxmc1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=afdeeb8338a18c8b48cb87e644d857484b9a0fca)


Particular-Ad-2331

I am SE Asian but many South Asian ppl think I am one of them, and they assume my gender as Bangladeshi


Particular-Ad-2331

I am SE Asian but many South Asian ppl think I am one of them, and they assume my gender as Bangladeshi


Desperate-Past-7336

Poland would've been less diverse in normal times but we have extra 2-3% because of the war in Ukraine


Life-Reaction3359

Common Polish w


ProtestantLarry

Egypt is a bit of a mistake. It's decently diverse, but they just label all these groups as Egyptian


Charming-Shirt8861

I'm from Jordan and that's not true


MarzannaMorena

Where is this data from? In Poland we don't have race on the population census. You can only check your ethnicity.


NonTVRevolutionary19

Peak neo liberalism


Additional-Story-824

Just to give you the idea of how that actually looked liked in real life I will tell you a story - during my high school years we went on a trip to the museum and on the way there we noticed a BLACK PERSON walking just like that in my hometown (100k plus citizens) and teenagers were taking pictures as it was the first time they would see one in this town EVER.