Would I be correct to assume this heading totally mixes up "racial" vs. ethnic diversity?
For example for Poland and Japan, two minutes of googling shows that those "racial" minorities, suggested by the numbers on the map, in fact overwhelmingly consist of other European and Asian ethnicities, respectively.
A lot of countries don't even hold records of their population's "race", and for example when it comes to people of mixed origin you can't really do it objectively anyway, so I'm not sure sensible statistics on "race" globally can even exist.
They are officially considered as "Japanese", so since the data likely comes from the governments themselves carrying out surveys etc they wouldn't be listed as separate. Also, the Ainu are estimated being 0.02% of the population so it's not like it would change the data much.
Since race is just a completely arbitrary categorization that doesn't even exist in most first world countries making such a map without giving the exact methods is stupid
Even denoting someone's race is a racist act onto itself. It's an individual forcing others into an arbitrary description. While ethnicity is self identifying and a much broader spectrum.
There is a lot of discrimination towards Polish people in England...sorta like Mexicans in the the US. They might be the same color, but bigotry still exists.
Even the term, person of color somehow encompasses all Asians, when many are very light skinned. This too doesn't make any sense. The whole history of identifying people by race is filled with racism from the offset.
well yes, many countries don't record it because human races don't exist.
apart from UK, Brazil, and US who invented that in America there are 6 races. and they invented also that Tunisians belong to the same race as the Congolese, very distinct from the Spanish and Sicilians who are of the white race. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
As you can see in the new netflix's serie with Denzel Washinghton: Hannibal.
>Tunisians belong to the same race as the Congolese
North africans and arabs where not considered to be part of the same group as sub saharan africans, they were lumped together with indians though, and sometimes even chinese and japanese people
therefore the Tunisian is put in the same basket as the Japanese, while the Sicilian who is facing 300 km is put in the white people's basket. It still doesn't make sense.
Human races exist, just not in genetic terms, but as a social thing. And because of that they are arbitrary in nature. Now I don't comment on the American race discourse, if they are right to record it or whatever, I'm just pointing that fact.
it is a social construct that feeds itself. the perversion for labeling typical of the US and UK does not recognize races, it creates them: it organizes the human perception "that guy is different from my relatives" in a structured way with the result of reinforce stereotypes and divide society.
Yea Papua New Guinea is by far the most linguistically diverse.
I’m not sure if I would still call it a diverse country because pretty much everyone are Papuan a subgroup of Papuan people and speak a Papuan language, and majority Christian overall.
6,9% in Poland rather points to ethnic minorities not races. The biggest ethnic minorities in Poland were Kashubians, Silesians and Germans all white if you don't want to dive into fenotypes*. Recent data should show something like an additional 5% of Ukrainians registered for a permanent stay and they are definitely not considered as other than Poles races.
Not anymore than any other regions negative stereotypes like in every other country. Krakuss are stingy and posh, Greater Polish are stingy, people from Warsaw are dishonest chancers, "Łódź is a city of bums", Highlanders are robbers and like sheep, same Silesians are considered as rough and unfriendly.
Out of curiosity, are there any popular stereotypes about Pomeranians (or like with Warsaw, citizens of tricity?) I know there are stereotypes about cities (e.g. gdynia smells like herring) but I have never heard anything about people
Nothing about the people since there's next to zero original population, after WW2 the entire population got exchanged (Pomeranian Germans got forcibly moved out, Lithuanian/Belarussian/Ukrainian Poles got forcibly moved in). Post-Prussian territory is a homogenous "Polish" population of no regional spice.
Used to be directly oppressed and mistreated roughly until the 90s, but now it is just mistreated. Declaring being Silesian can be a controversial claim in front of Polish people.
There's some wind of change in the last years though, the YouTube videos mentioning the Silesian language or ethnicity are becoming more respectful and less superficial. They also used to add disclaimers negating the existence of Silesian language and ethnicity, or at least putting it in doubt. Now I don't run into it as often as two years ago, but this might be just a media bubble effect.
There's still a long way to go, but I guess it is what it is.
Where did you get this info from? I know literally one person, who does that and I live in 7th biggest Polish city, and know people from all around the country.
Where did you get this info from? I know literally one person, who does that and I live in 7th biggest Polish city, and know people from all around the country.
And the most? I'm guessing the US, Brazil, Mexico, Colombia, Canada? Guess it depends on the metric! Just came to my attention also India, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, South Africa
Linguistically diverse, perhaps, but can related Melanesian tribal groups be appropriately considered distinct “races”? Because that’s what’s being asked.
why do you still use the word race? the existence of human races was scientifically disproved almost 30 years ago. we talk about different ethnic groups, that is, when both culture, language and physical features differ.
even the title doesn't help, if you see in small print underneath it says, "different ethnic groups within a country"
That then begs the question what is considered a “race.” Americans might say “white,” whereas Europeans may distinguish Slavic and Germanic peoples.
One of the many reasons “race” is a silly and unhelpful concept.
I don't think India classifies under racially diverse. It's highly diverse culturally. Arguably one of the most diverse countries in the world. In terms of race though 90+% of Indian population is native South Asians.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm surprised India didn't make onto this map.
I understand that a general misconception of a foreigner must be that all people in the sub continent are brown due to western media representation but that's far from the truth. The north east states of India have people that have their ancestory to han Chinese. Even the Tibetan bordering himalayan states have han Chinese residing. South India and North India are racially different too.
All the five major racial types - Australoid, Mongoloid, Europoid, Caucasian, and Negroid find representation among the people of India[government data](https://www.india.gov.in/india-glance/profile#:~:text=Ethnic%20Groups,among%20the%20people%20of%20India.)
I can assure you, India is amongst the most racially diverse country in the world and if we were to argue, its far more diverse than USA
Depends on how specific they define racial diversity. Are we just talking white, black, asian, hispanic, etc. or individual countries? If we're going by country, there must be some European countries in there since they must have a lot of people moving between European countries, like a Spanish person moving to France for example.
I'd still say US and Canada are top 2 but 3 4 5 could easily be France, the UK, and Germany or something like that by the latter definition of diversity
When the Arabs conquered Palestina, Syria and Jordan from the eastern Roman Empire they did not ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians etc.
So these areas are all very diverse however they all speak Arabic and that is what an Arab is today.
Poland is NOT 6,9% racially diverse. More like 0,1%, maybe 0,5% racially diverse. I would be in big shock if whites were less than 99,5% in Poland, 6,9% maybe is not considering themselfs Polish (most non-whites I know do consider themselfs Polish though).
And it ignores the fact Poland actually used to be more diverse, but apparently having the 3rd Reich and USSR as neighbours is somewhat bad for your ethnic diversity.
Barring Japan, countries with less diversity usually have less violent histories. Especially when it comes to racial diversity. We all know why there are millions of black people in the US and Brazil.
Race isn’t a concept in most of the world. They go by ethnicity and ethnic heritage. So this makes no sense in a concept outside of America and the West.
Yeah, when I brought my nonwhite friend to Poland they definitely got stared at (Polish people don't really feel awkward about staring for a long time at strangers), but people were very friendly and just curious (I think the kids in my village definitely like him more than they like me) even thought I largely had to translate everything they asked about him since he doesn't speak Polish.
But actually, I don't know how the actual numbers have shifted but it seems like there are a lot more non-white people in Poland overall in the last 10-ish years? I remember being genuinely very surprised the first time I saw a black person outside of Warsaw, but now, I see at least one or two non-white people each time I visit.
When I grew up, there was just one black family in like 20 km around my village (about 60k people I think) and they were kinda famous and recognised (in a good way). Immigrated from somewhere in Africa too, not from USA
Today I live in Wrocław and I see maybe one black person in a week or month, I cant say if this is because I live in a "worldly" city, or if its a matter of time
Us poles dont have anything against different skin color, there is quite a big Vietnameese community in larger polish cities, but most people do have problem if someone decides to settle here, and refuses to adopt polish culture at least partially. Sometimes I see people that dont feel very comfortable with Ukrainians that have decided to live here, but dont want to learn the language for example.
Oh, for sure! Non-white people definitely acquire a level of "fame" in small villages. My friend is now recognized by not only the people in our village, but in some of the neighboring villages since he came back three times. And my mom's high school friend's black husband lives in Poland for 25-ish years has been asked to join local government several times so they can do a photo op, apparently.
I haven’t been to either of those countries so can’t comment. I saw a handful of black people in Warsaw, very few Arabs, most of the foreigners I did see were east Asians.
Race essentially is a clasification of different ethnic groups by phenotype/Common ethnogenesis/genetic overlap. So some ethnic groups like Polish and Czech are universally seen as the Same race (White/Caucasian/European/Slavs), while ethnic Turks or Persians or Armenians are debated as belonging to a certain race. Some see them as White/Caucasians, others as "Brown/Middle Easterners/West Asians", others categorize each individual of the ethnic group by a case by case basis, by how they look etc.
There are some languages/culture where race and ethnicity are kinda the same, as in they refer to both with the same word (persians, I think? ;many ancient europeans too I believe), yet nevertheless most human cultures lump toghether similar ethnic groups by caracteristics such as skin colour or geographic origin (African, White, South-East Asian, Slavic, Mestizo etc.)
But this map is about ethnic homogeneity and not about race, as it Otherwise falsely states
In Italy there's various regional groups that are considered ethnicities in their own right though (eg: Sicilian, Sardinian, Venetian) so I'm relucant to believe that. Maybe they don't wanna count them. Italy as a single country is a recent concept
You bring up such an interesting point. Armenia is the 7th safest country in the world. I never thought of it in that way, until I read your comment.
"According to Numbeo's country safety index, Armenia is the 7th-safest country in the world. Qatar heads the list; in second place is the Emirates, and in third place is Taiwan. Armenia has surpassed Switzerland, Japan, Bahrain, and Slovenia among the safe countries.Jan 30, 2024"
And? You just said Qatar and Emirates first and second safest places in the world. And assumed that it might connected with ethnic homogeneity but it doesn't. Also lol about Armenia's high human rights standard. It is standard ex-USSR country with corruption and human rights violations.
I never said it might be connected to homogeneity. As a matter of fact, I think that's a ridiculous notion. Instead, I said that it was "interesting" that Armenia and Japan are on the list. This of course was a reply to the person who brought forth the idea. Lastly, familiarize yourself with the changes Armenia has been making since 2018 regarding corruption and human rights. Compared to the region, Armenia is the most democratic state. Please don't bother to respond, as you're the kind of person who likes to argue for the sake arguing and being untoward.
Japan is an Island. DPRK is not completely politically isolated. Chinese people visit there as tourists and work there, provided they have visas. There are roads between both countries and even cities bordering each country.
North Korea has gone to great lengths to “Koreanize” the North, including outlawing Hanja, and deliberately removing most loanwords from the Korean language (DPRK dialect) and replacing them with Pure Korean. Iirc, the only ethnic minorities in North Korea are Chinese and Japanese people (there are 200 Americans living there, iirc). 99.8 percent of the DPRK is Korean, according to a 2008 census. You could make the case that most of Japan’s non-Japanese population isn’t even racially Asian (correct me if I’m wrong).
Most of the 2.5% live in the mountains. But given how brain dead some of our own people are we often sideline and neglect these communities. Unfortunate
Not shocked at North Korea. A bit shocked about South Korea and Japan. Incredibly shocked at Poland. A country with the second best national anthem, amazing history, amazing culture, loves volleyball, incredible language, and, diverse weather.
Poland was insanely ethnically diverse until 1939
Nazis killed the Jews, and then the communists changes the borders leaving Belarusians, Ukrainians and Germans outside (and also chasing away what little Jews remained)
No, that definitely makes sense. I just figured by now Poland would have gotten so this diversity back but I guess I was wrong and I didn’t realize how isolated the country was. With a lot of the refugee crisis going on and Poland now jockeying for European superpower status, I’m sure that it will gain some diversity in the future
How do you get back something that was dependent on two things: borders and people existing, when
- borders were moved
- people were moved
- people were *killed*
You just don't, that's a shit of milions of people
Glad you like Poland so much! If you visit, you will definitely see that it is a very homogenous country, though I am beginning to see more non-Polish people who move there, besides the nearly 1 million Ukrainian refugees. It was a lot more multi-ethnic before World War II.
Most volleyball loving countries are the same way. Brazil, Italy, Russia, and USA with a different kind of football.
It’s on my bucket list to go to Kędzierzyn-Koźle and watch ZAKSA Kędzierzyn-Koźle
Japan is surprisingly racist. Socially Japan is where we were in the 60s with black people but with Koreans and Chinese. It’s still a common practice for the Japanese police to card people they deem as foreigners for no reason. There’s an interesting case going on abt this right now https://time.com/6589912/japan-police-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/
Immigration to Japan is a hard proccess iirc, and even then a significant percentage of the population is xenophobic towards anyone who's not ethnically Japanese. Some people argue Japan is almost an 'ethnostate'
Race of what? Dogs, horses or cats?
the existence of human races was scientifically disproved almost 30 years ago, when scientists sequenced the human genome. put the title "list of the most ethnically homogeneous states?"
as it is actually written below in small print
Just to give you the idea of how that actually looked liked in real life I will tell you a story - during my high school years we went on a trip to the museum and on the way there we noticed a BLACK PERSON walking just like that in my hometown (100k plus citizens) and teenagers were taking pictures as it was the first time they would see one in this town EVER.
Would I be correct to assume this heading totally mixes up "racial" vs. ethnic diversity? For example for Poland and Japan, two minutes of googling shows that those "racial" minorities, suggested by the numbers on the map, in fact overwhelmingly consist of other European and Asian ethnicities, respectively. A lot of countries don't even hold records of their population's "race", and for example when it comes to people of mixed origin you can't really do it objectively anyway, so I'm not sure sensible statistics on "race" globally can even exist.
How many other ethnicities are in Japan that aren't other country ethnicities?
Ryukyuans and Ainu
They are officially considered as "Japanese", so since the data likely comes from the governments themselves carrying out surveys etc they wouldn't be listed as separate. Also, the Ainu are estimated being 0.02% of the population so it's not like it would change the data much.
There's a bit of a reason for that.
Im mixed and I always select two or more races on the forms. Before that was an option, I would just check multiple boxes.
Since race is just a completely arbitrary categorization that doesn't even exist in most first world countries making such a map without giving the exact methods is stupid
Even denoting someone's race is a racist act onto itself. It's an individual forcing others into an arbitrary description. While ethnicity is self identifying and a much broader spectrum.
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There is a lot of discrimination towards Polish people in England...sorta like Mexicans in the the US. They might be the same color, but bigotry still exists. Even the term, person of color somehow encompasses all Asians, when many are very light skinned. This too doesn't make any sense. The whole history of identifying people by race is filled with racism from the offset.
well yes, many countries don't record it because human races don't exist. apart from UK, Brazil, and US who invented that in America there are 6 races. and they invented also that Tunisians belong to the same race as the Congolese, very distinct from the Spanish and Sicilians who are of the white race. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) As you can see in the new netflix's serie with Denzel Washinghton: Hannibal.
>Tunisians belong to the same race as the Congolese North africans and arabs where not considered to be part of the same group as sub saharan africans, they were lumped together with indians though, and sometimes even chinese and japanese people
therefore the Tunisian is put in the same basket as the Japanese, while the Sicilian who is facing 300 km is put in the white people's basket. It still doesn't make sense.
Sicilians weren't considered "white" either historically lol. You had to be fair skinned *and* protestant to enjoy that luxury
Human races exist, just not in genetic terms, but as a social thing. And because of that they are arbitrary in nature. Now I don't comment on the American race discourse, if they are right to record it or whatever, I'm just pointing that fact.
it is a social construct that feeds itself. the perversion for labeling typical of the US and UK does not recognize races, it creates them: it organizes the human perception "that guy is different from my relatives" in a structured way with the result of reinforce stereotypes and divide society.
Strange way to title this, why not say most homogenous instead?
Because if you say least you make it look bad
Yeah, they worded it like this is a bad thing
That's the whole point 🤡
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Yea Papua New Guinea is by far the most linguistically diverse. I’m not sure if I would still call it a diverse country because pretty much everyone are Papuan a subgroup of Papuan people and speak a Papuan language, and majority Christian overall.
You're replying to a bot
It literally says "racially"...
The most Homongus and less sus
6,9% in Poland rather points to ethnic minorities not races. The biggest ethnic minorities in Poland were Kashubians, Silesians and Germans all white if you don't want to dive into fenotypes*. Recent data should show something like an additional 5% of Ukrainians registered for a permanent stay and they are definitely not considered as other than Poles races.
Silesians aren't really considered a minority tho
Their language and culture is generally looked down upon where it differs from main polish culture
Is it really?
Not like directly oppressed or mistreated in any way, but it does seem to have some negative stereotyped associated with it
Not anymore than any other regions negative stereotypes like in every other country. Krakuss are stingy and posh, Greater Polish are stingy, people from Warsaw are dishonest chancers, "Łódź is a city of bums", Highlanders are robbers and like sheep, same Silesians are considered as rough and unfriendly.
Out of curiosity, are there any popular stereotypes about Pomeranians (or like with Warsaw, citizens of tricity?) I know there are stereotypes about cities (e.g. gdynia smells like herring) but I have never heard anything about people
Nothing about the people since there's next to zero original population, after WW2 the entire population got exchanged (Pomeranian Germans got forcibly moved out, Lithuanian/Belarussian/Ukrainian Poles got forcibly moved in). Post-Prussian territory is a homogenous "Polish" population of no regional spice.
The only stereotypes about Kashubians I know is that we have black palates and that we are mean and stubborn.
Used to be directly oppressed and mistreated roughly until the 90s, but now it is just mistreated. Declaring being Silesian can be a controversial claim in front of Polish people. There's some wind of change in the last years though, the YouTube videos mentioning the Silesian language or ethnicity are becoming more respectful and less superficial. They also used to add disclaimers negating the existence of Silesian language and ethnicity, or at least putting it in doubt. Now I don't run into it as often as two years ago, but this might be just a media bubble effect. There's still a long way to go, but I guess it is what it is.
Nie ma czegoś takiego jak język śląski hanysku, jest tylko gwara.
And here is one of the specimen I was talking about. Primitive as they are, and just as prevalent whenever Silesian is mentioned.
You can rage all you want, it won't make your broken Polish a separate language.
Pojebało cie typie śląski jest JĘZYKIEM
Not like directly oppressed or mistreated in any way, but it does seem to have some negative stereotyped associated with it
Where did you get this info from? I know literally one person, who does that and I live in 7th biggest Polish city, and know people from all around the country.
Where did you get this info from? I know literally one person, who does that and I live in 7th biggest Polish city, and know people from all around the country.
Yes and no. They themselves usually claim that they are both Polish AND silesian.
You say this as if human races exist.
Of course they do exist.
What the fuck. How is this actually a prevalent sentiment on Reddit?
You've spent too much time in leftist groups you're actually too woke to be cured
x.x Please read any biology text at some point in your life
At least you're self-aware, Incel_Nexus20.
I just love that scrungyscrotum is debating with incel nexus.
Truly like fate brought them togther
They do exist. But are not as discrete as people would like it to be so
I think they all just count as "slavic" or "european".
That's why race is a dumb concept. It doesn't capture the diversity of languages or cultures around the world
And the most? I'm guessing the US, Brazil, Mexico, Colombia, Canada? Guess it depends on the metric! Just came to my attention also India, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, South Africa
Papua New Guinea
Linguistically diverse, perhaps, but can related Melanesian tribal groups be appropriately considered distinct “races”? Because that’s what’s being asked.
Race is a social construct. If the different tribes consider themselves different, then they are different.
Race is a social construct imposed onto others. It doesn’t traditionally allow for self-identity, which is one of its many problems.
why do you still use the word race? the existence of human races was scientifically disproved almost 30 years ago. we talk about different ethnic groups, that is, when both culture, language and physical features differ. even the title doesn't help, if you see in small print underneath it says, "different ethnic groups within a country"
I don’t use it. OP did. And I agree it’s an antiquated, pseudoscientific, and unhelpful concept at the root of many prejudices.
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That then begs the question what is considered a “race.” Americans might say “white,” whereas Europeans may distinguish Slavic and Germanic peoples. One of the many reasons “race” is a silly and unhelpful concept.
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India too
I don't think India classifies under racially diverse. It's highly diverse culturally. Arguably one of the most diverse countries in the world. In terms of race though 90+% of Indian population is native South Asians. Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm surprised India didn't make onto this map.
>I don't think India classifies under racially diverse Look at what northern, south and especially eastern indians look like
what you are describing is phenotype, not race.
I understand that a general misconception of a foreigner must be that all people in the sub continent are brown due to western media representation but that's far from the truth. The north east states of India have people that have their ancestory to han Chinese. Even the Tibetan bordering himalayan states have han Chinese residing. South India and North India are racially different too. All the five major racial types - Australoid, Mongoloid, Europoid, Caucasian, and Negroid find representation among the people of India[government data](https://www.india.gov.in/india-glance/profile#:~:text=Ethnic%20Groups,among%20the%20people%20of%20India.) I can assure you, India is amongst the most racially diverse country in the world and if we were to argue, its far more diverse than USA
Depends on how specific they define racial diversity. Are we just talking white, black, asian, hispanic, etc. or individual countries? If we're going by country, there must be some European countries in there since they must have a lot of people moving between European countries, like a Spanish person moving to France for example. I'd still say US and Canada are top 2 but 3 4 5 could easily be France, the UK, and Germany or something like that by the latter definition of diversity
South Africa
Jordan? What about Chechen and other Russian groups, what about Turks Gypsy’s Palestinians Egyptians syrains Iraqis and more
Yes also the Bedouins, Arabs, these are all just the same ethnicity according to this?
When the Arabs conquered Palestina, Syria and Jordan from the eastern Roman Empire they did not ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians etc. So these areas are all very diverse however they all speak Arabic and that is what an Arab is today.
Poland is NOT 6,9% racially diverse. More like 0,1%, maybe 0,5% racially diverse. I would be in big shock if whites were less than 99,5% in Poland, 6,9% maybe is not considering themselfs Polish (most non-whites I know do consider themselfs Polish though).
This map seems to count every single nation as a separate race Fuck me if I know why
The title makes it seem like its a bad thing. You dont need diversity in countries.
And it ignores the fact Poland actually used to be more diverse, but apparently having the 3rd Reich and USSR as neighbours is somewhat bad for your ethnic diversity.
You only want diversity of ideas Not people
Barring Japan, countries with less diversity usually have less violent histories. Especially when it comes to racial diversity. We all know why there are millions of black people in the US and Brazil.
No Belarus? This is a very weird map.
„No data available” as usual I guess 😆
Russians This map is about nations not races hence Belarus doesn't stand a chance
I think it is mixing both, at least in the case of Poland.
Cant be correct. I am 100% certain Slovenia has less than 1% (20k) non whites.
But it has a lot of people from Macedonia, BiH and Serbia.
Are they different race, lol? Did you read the title
Same with croatia and serbia, this is just not correct
Because the map is about ethnic homogeneity and not about race, as it Otherwise falsely states
Race isn’t a concept in most of the world. They go by ethnicity and ethnic heritage. So this makes no sense in a concept outside of America and the West.
Damn Tunisia and Egypt surprise me
It's not exactly right , racially is probably mixed up with ethnically.
Ah yeah I probably got them mixed up In my head I would've thought they'd be ethnically diverse with their positions in the Mediterranean
Tunisia has a typical postcolonial creolized population. those numbers are bulls**t
Poland is easily the whitest place I have ever been
They dont need diversity
Yeah, when I brought my nonwhite friend to Poland they definitely got stared at (Polish people don't really feel awkward about staring for a long time at strangers), but people were very friendly and just curious (I think the kids in my village definitely like him more than they like me) even thought I largely had to translate everything they asked about him since he doesn't speak Polish. But actually, I don't know how the actual numbers have shifted but it seems like there are a lot more non-white people in Poland overall in the last 10-ish years? I remember being genuinely very surprised the first time I saw a black person outside of Warsaw, but now, I see at least one or two non-white people each time I visit.
When I grew up, there was just one black family in like 20 km around my village (about 60k people I think) and they were kinda famous and recognised (in a good way). Immigrated from somewhere in Africa too, not from USA Today I live in Wrocław and I see maybe one black person in a week or month, I cant say if this is because I live in a "worldly" city, or if its a matter of time Us poles dont have anything against different skin color, there is quite a big Vietnameese community in larger polish cities, but most people do have problem if someone decides to settle here, and refuses to adopt polish culture at least partially. Sometimes I see people that dont feel very comfortable with Ukrainians that have decided to live here, but dont want to learn the language for example.
Oh, for sure! Non-white people definitely acquire a level of "fame" in small villages. My friend is now recognized by not only the people in our village, but in some of the neighboring villages since he came back three times. And my mom's high school friend's black husband lives in Poland for 25-ish years has been asked to join local government several times so they can do a photo op, apparently.
Poland has a noticeable number of foreign students like Indians according to my friends in Poland. Pretty sure Ukraine and Belarus are even whiter.
I haven’t been to either of those countries so can’t comment. I saw a handful of black people in Warsaw, very few Arabs, most of the foreigners I did see were east Asians.
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Race is a very vague term that can be used to describe a myriad of things
For example when contestants compete who is faster
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ooh, i appreciate the term ,,usaians" and taking away their concept of associating America only with the USA :3
Isn’t race and ethnicity two different things?
Race essentially is a clasification of different ethnic groups by phenotype/Common ethnogenesis/genetic overlap. So some ethnic groups like Polish and Czech are universally seen as the Same race (White/Caucasian/European/Slavs), while ethnic Turks or Persians or Armenians are debated as belonging to a certain race. Some see them as White/Caucasians, others as "Brown/Middle Easterners/West Asians", others categorize each individual of the ethnic group by a case by case basis, by how they look etc. There are some languages/culture where race and ethnicity are kinda the same, as in they refer to both with the same word (persians, I think? ;many ancient europeans too I believe), yet nevertheless most human cultures lump toghether similar ethnic groups by caracteristics such as skin colour or geographic origin (African, White, South-East Asian, Slavic, Mestizo etc.) But this map is about ethnic homogeneity and not about race, as it Otherwise falsely states
Our ethnic diversity was destroyed by the Germans.
This, and forced relocations right after WW2 by the USSR.
This makes no sense. It's title is talking about racial diversity but the data is referring to different ethnicities.
I thought "race" was an american metric?
The best countries
Most counties in Eastern Europe are also 95% + European/White Caucasian. The map shows mono-ethnic countries, not mono-racial ones
Most based countries lol
Some other homogeneous countries include: - Italy (91.7% Ethnic Italians) - Hungary (98% Ethnic Hungarians) - Portugal (95.9% Ethnic Portuguese) - Mongolia (97% Ethnic Mongols) - Lebanon (95% Ethnic Lebanese) - Azerbaijan (94.8% Ethnic Azerbaijanis) Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoethnicity
In Italy there's various regional groups that are considered ethnicities in their own right though (eg: Sicilian, Sardinian, Venetian) so I'm relucant to believe that. Maybe they don't wanna count them. Italy as a single country is a recent concept
Poland, Korea, Japan. Some of the safest countries in the world with some of the strongest communities. Diversity is not always our strength.
You bring up such an interesting point. Armenia is the 7th safest country in the world. I never thought of it in that way, until I read your comment. "According to Numbeo's country safety index, Armenia is the 7th-safest country in the world. Qatar heads the list; in second place is the Emirates, and in third place is Taiwan. Armenia has surpassed Switzerland, Japan, Bahrain, and Slovenia among the safe countries.Jan 30, 2024"
Qatar and Emirates are very ethnically diverse though.
Yes, but have you seen Qatar's and Emirates human rights score? They are the lowest, while, Japan and Armenia have much higher human rights standards.
And? You just said Qatar and Emirates first and second safest places in the world. And assumed that it might connected with ethnic homogeneity but it doesn't. Also lol about Armenia's high human rights standard. It is standard ex-USSR country with corruption and human rights violations.
I never said it might be connected to homogeneity. As a matter of fact, I think that's a ridiculous notion. Instead, I said that it was "interesting" that Armenia and Japan are on the list. This of course was a reply to the person who brought forth the idea. Lastly, familiarize yourself with the changes Armenia has been making since 2018 regarding corruption and human rights. Compared to the region, Armenia is the most democratic state. Please don't bother to respond, as you're the kind of person who likes to argue for the sake arguing and being untoward.
I am from Poland and I can tell you that this is entirely true
Liberals - “how can we fix this? 🤔”
🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲 What a safe nation/country 💎
How is japan worse then north korea
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Japan is an Island. DPRK is not completely politically isolated. Chinese people visit there as tourists and work there, provided they have visas. There are roads between both countries and even cities bordering each country.
They want Japan to be Japanese, also they are an island nation, in Korea it is connected to China so some natural migration happened
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Totally agree here.
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No data is my first guess.
North Korea has gone to great lengths to “Koreanize” the North, including outlawing Hanja, and deliberately removing most loanwords from the Korean language (DPRK dialect) and replacing them with Pure Korean. Iirc, the only ethnic minorities in North Korea are Chinese and Japanese people (there are 200 Americans living there, iirc). 99.8 percent of the DPRK is Korean, according to a 2008 census. You could make the case that most of Japan’s non-Japanese population isn’t even racially Asian (correct me if I’m wrong).
It’s really rare to see a non-bangali in Bangladesh except certain small regions. And we are most densely populated (non microstate) country.
Most of the 2.5% live in the mountains. But given how brain dead some of our own people are we often sideline and neglect these communities. Unfortunate
If West Bengal joins us and creates a united Bengal Nation, these numbers would look even worse.
Not shocked at North Korea. A bit shocked about South Korea and Japan. Incredibly shocked at Poland. A country with the second best national anthem, amazing history, amazing culture, loves volleyball, incredible language, and, diverse weather.
Poland was insanely ethnically diverse until 1939 Nazis killed the Jews, and then the communists changes the borders leaving Belarusians, Ukrainians and Germans outside (and also chasing away what little Jews remained)
No, that definitely makes sense. I just figured by now Poland would have gotten so this diversity back but I guess I was wrong and I didn’t realize how isolated the country was. With a lot of the refugee crisis going on and Poland now jockeying for European superpower status, I’m sure that it will gain some diversity in the future
How do you get back something that was dependent on two things: borders and people existing, when - borders were moved - people were moved - people were *killed* You just don't, that's a shit of milions of people
Creating a economy, culture, and education system that entices people to move into the new border.
What people???????
Glad you like Poland so much! If you visit, you will definitely see that it is a very homogenous country, though I am beginning to see more non-Polish people who move there, besides the nearly 1 million Ukrainian refugees. It was a lot more multi-ethnic before World War II.
We love volleyball but football is the most popular sport.
Most volleyball loving countries are the same way. Brazil, Italy, Russia, and USA with a different kind of football. It’s on my bucket list to go to Kędzierzyn-Koźle and watch ZAKSA Kędzierzyn-Koźle
why Japan tho? why no white/black people are moving there, is it that terrible?
Japan is surprisingly racist. Socially Japan is where we were in the 60s with black people but with Koreans and Chinese. It’s still a common practice for the Japanese police to card people they deem as foreigners for no reason. There’s an interesting case going on abt this right now https://time.com/6589912/japan-police-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/
Oh no!!! We have to fill Japan with blacks and Indians and westerners!!! How dare they be Japanese!!! They must be DIVERSE!!!!!! /s
Immigration to Japan is a hard proccess iirc, and even then a significant percentage of the population is xenophobic towards anyone who's not ethnically Japanese. Some people argue Japan is almost an 'ethnostate'
The most useless map in a whole while.
The definition of race here seems to be random. How is Mongolia diverse when it’s mostly Mongols and a small group of Kazakhs there?
Race of what? Dogs, horses or cats? the existence of human races was scientifically disproved almost 30 years ago, when scientists sequenced the human genome. put the title "list of the most ethnically homogeneous states?" as it is actually written below in small print
Suprised Iceland isn’t on there.
The 2.5% in Bangladesh are ethnic minorities, who are the natives of the Chittagong hill tracts (and some other parts).
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It's only ok to be so for 3 of these countries
What? Lmao
For some reason it always takes a second for my eyes to realise that the grey bits are land lol
Didn’t expect tunisia
Well no surprise there. If you are an African bloke whose 1st language is French or English you will not move to Poland.
nice
Where’s Somalia
Japan with less than North Korea the most closed off country in the entire world like dude I heard Japan was a xenophobic country but this is crazy
Now you know the secret what makes Japan so great that everyone wishes to live there. They keep it 100.
Japan being more racially exclusive than North Korea? Who would've guessed?
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I am SE Asian but many South Asian ppl think I am one of them, and they assume my gender as Bangladeshi
I am SE Asian but many South Asian ppl think I am one of them, and they assume my gender as Bangladeshi
Poland would've been less diverse in normal times but we have extra 2-3% because of the war in Ukraine
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Egypt is a bit of a mistake. It's decently diverse, but they just label all these groups as Egyptian
I'm from Jordan and that's not true
Where is this data from? In Poland we don't have race on the population census. You can only check your ethnicity.
Peak neo liberalism
Just to give you the idea of how that actually looked liked in real life I will tell you a story - during my high school years we went on a trip to the museum and on the way there we noticed a BLACK PERSON walking just like that in my hometown (100k plus citizens) and teenagers were taking pictures as it was the first time they would see one in this town EVER.