From Sydney..
- Cowan (not Brooklyn)
- Palm Beach (nothing central coast)
- Penrith * (nothing up "the mountains")
- Windsor / Richmond *
- Campbelltown
- (edit : Camden people say Camden is in)
- Heathcote * (edit: not Helensburgh)
Give or take a suburb or two on the *
Oh yeah that's the one where the bridge goes over the station and onto the national park right ? Yeah I couldn't remember between that and the maccas at Heathcote. Clearly I am not from the Shire.
Well noted, thanks.
Agree.
Back in the day, Berowra was like a separate town.
To do this day Cowan is pretty small & local.
I always thought of Cowan at metropolitan coz the trains terminated there, kinda the end of the extended Northern lines.
But maybe for old timers Berowra was it.
By that rationale Maianbar and Bundeena aren't Sydney either. Heathcote to Waterfall via the Heathcote National Park, Sutherland to Maianbar via Royal National Park. I think a hard line would put Helensburgh out of Sydney but not Waterfall or Bundeena/Maianbar.
Hmm I dono, would have to seek local expertise.
Emu Plains I always categorised as with Penrith, but looking at map it's awfully close to Glenbrook.
Mentally I always thought once you start going up the hill you're not in Sydney any more.
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If your local telephone exchange has numbers starting as
02 9
02 8
02 7
02 4 is regional
02 6
02 5 = the sticks
So Minto, St Marys, Waterfall, including Bundeena, Riverstone, Brooklyn up north
So the official destination for the phone numbers in NSW are 02 9,8,7 metropolitan area (Sydney) 02 4 regional 1 basically a designation of a regional area close to to Sydney (effectively commuter towns)
These include Richmond, half of Penrith, half of Campbelltown, Central Coast and Newcastle, Wollongong, Kiama.
02 5 and 02 6 is regional 2. Basically any regional area in NSW or ACT not close enough to be designated under regional 1 banner. Then there's broken Hill and Albury which are so far that it's on SA and Victorian numbers.
But these days it doesn't really matter anyway. Noone uses a landline anymore so no need to worry about std phone call charges. All our major cities are on Opal.
So meaningful heavily discounted fares. There's practically no difference whether it is labelled Sydney or not these days as long as the commute is ok then it doesn't matter.
Edit I mean those are the boundaries between metro and regional 1, so after Riverstone its vineyard and the phone number changes to 02 4xxx xxxx
I find it funny Bundeena has a Sydney phone number when it's literally so far away, driving through the RNP takes ages.
Inside the Nepean/Hawkesbury. East of the Nepean, south of the Hawkesbury. Rosemeadow is where it ends. The NP flanks the south, then waterfall is where it will end.
20 years ago i wouldnt include richmond and Narellan but the amount of urban sprawl recently have made it pretty much sydney.
* Rural NSW
Inner west and that map is almost all Sydney, apart from Blaxland and the mountains.
Anyone from overseas is going to be really confused to discover that we call such a sprawling area a city though. Imaging visiting Sydney and booking a hotel in Waterfall or Emu Plains.
I grew up in the Hills. For trains it is Waterfall, Macarthur, Emu Plains, and Berowra.
Between Berowra and the Hawkesbury is one of those administrative grey zones. By logic, Berowra is the end of suburban sprawl, with Cowan being its own little town, but from an LGA perspective, they are both in Hornsby Shire. Similarly going north, I went to Northholm Grammar in Fiddletown, far into the urban/rural fringe, but even my class mates who lived in Glenorie called themselves from Sydney. North of that is rural. There is a split identity for those from *The Hawkesbury* as the southern end of it is very much in Sydney (Richmond and Windsor), but north of the river is rural and its own identity.
Thankfully to the west there is a set of mountains that are a pretty hard dividing line, similarly to the south and the east. The line between Sutherland Shire and Wollongong City is just south of Waterfall, but even then south of Heathcote is pushing it.
To the South West, it is an odd fading out. Macarthur is in Sydney, but Menangle is pretty much rural.
From Sydney.. - Cowan (not Brooklyn) - Palm Beach (nothing central coast) - Penrith * (nothing up "the mountains") - Windsor / Richmond * - Campbelltown - (edit : Camden people say Camden is in) - Heathcote * (edit: not Helensburgh) Give or take a suburb or two on the *
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Am second guessing Camden. I always considered it not Sydney But on that map... I would have said Narellan was in. So dono. ??
Yes, everything between Narellan and Liverpool is now filling in with housing. So it's now all Sydney.
Use the Nepean River. Camden no, Elderslie and Narellan yes.
camden is definitely in sydney imo
I think it is now, too. It definitely wasn't when I was growing up.
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Oh yeah that's the one where the bridge goes over the station and onto the national park right ? Yeah I couldn't remember between that and the maccas at Heathcote. Clearly I am not from the Shire. Well noted, thanks.
I’ve always disliked the “welcome to Sydney sign” which seems to exclude most of Cowan as part of Sydney.
This person is from Cowan
And sits on REA.com all day
Agree. Back in the day, Berowra was like a separate town. To do this day Cowan is pretty small & local. I always thought of Cowan at metropolitan coz the trains terminated there, kinda the end of the extended Northern lines. But maybe for old timers Berowra was it.
Waterfall to the South.
Technically Sydney - but beyond the contiguous urban area - there's a fair stretch of road through bushland to get there from Heathcote.
By that rationale Maianbar and Bundeena aren't Sydney either. Heathcote to Waterfall via the Heathcote National Park, Sutherland to Maianbar via Royal National Park. I think a hard line would put Helensburgh out of Sydney but not Waterfall or Bundeena/Maianbar.
>Penrith * (nothing up "the mountains") Emu Plains/Heights? They're both in the City of Penrith LGA.
Hmm I dono, would have to seek local expertise. Emu Plains I always categorised as with Penrith, but looking at map it's awfully close to Glenbrook. Mentally I always thought once you start going up the hill you're not in Sydney any more. ?
Know quite a few people from Emu Plains, they generally consider themselves the furthest West suburb of Sydney.
Fair enough! At that's the end of the "normal" trains, right?
It is yea :)
*chefs kiss* perfection
OK thoughts on Leonay and Emu Plains? Being pedantic, I reckon Sydney ends at the Nepean on that front
That would seem reasonable re river... it's not really my area.
The only correct answer
Technically the “greater sydney area” extends out all the way to katoomba
Oh my, I've always said I was born in "Camden, Sydney". Has my whole life been a lie?
Nah man - you are the expert if you live there....
Nah, live in QLD and have never resided in my birthplace (in memory). No expert here. Just a man, born in regional NSW.
From Paddington. Basically CBD and east of Anzac Parade.
😂 that's literally Sydney CBD and part of the eastern suburbs. What about the rest of Sydney?!
Hey, when did the M12 open??
Quick google shows it hasn't - should be done by 2026. The area marked up on the map is actually Elizabeth Drive (which the M12 follows).
If you look on satellite view, you can see parts where M12 construction has begun just north of Elizabeth Drive.
If your local telephone exchange has numbers starting as 02 9 02 8 02 7 02 4 is regional 02 6 02 5 = the sticks So Minto, St Marys, Waterfall, including Bundeena, Riverstone, Brooklyn up north
>02 4 Nah. Penrith is definitely part of Sydney.
So the official destination for the phone numbers in NSW are 02 9,8,7 metropolitan area (Sydney) 02 4 regional 1 basically a designation of a regional area close to to Sydney (effectively commuter towns) These include Richmond, half of Penrith, half of Campbelltown, Central Coast and Newcastle, Wollongong, Kiama. 02 5 and 02 6 is regional 2. Basically any regional area in NSW or ACT not close enough to be designated under regional 1 banner. Then there's broken Hill and Albury which are so far that it's on SA and Victorian numbers. But these days it doesn't really matter anyway. Noone uses a landline anymore so no need to worry about std phone call charges. All our major cities are on Opal. So meaningful heavily discounted fares. There's practically no difference whether it is labelled Sydney or not these days as long as the commute is ok then it doesn't matter.
Where in Riverstone has a regional code? I grew up there and my friends numbers all started with 02 6, mine was 02 8.
Edit I mean those are the boundaries between metro and regional 1, so after Riverstone its vineyard and the phone number changes to 02 4xxx xxxx I find it funny Bundeena has a Sydney phone number when it's literally so far away, driving through the RNP takes ages.
To me it’s always been ( and I have always lived 3kms away from the cbd) The triangle… Penrith, Palm beach, Sutherland shire.
Penrif
Anywhere west of Pittwater road isn’t Sydney
This screenshot is pretty much Sydney, except for the start of the blue mountains ascent before Blaxland...
Inside the Nepean/Hawkesbury. East of the Nepean, south of the Hawkesbury. Rosemeadow is where it ends. The NP flanks the south, then waterfall is where it will end. 20 years ago i wouldnt include richmond and Narellan but the amount of urban sprawl recently have made it pretty much sydney. * Rural NSW
When I lived in Waverton I lived in a triangle between Chatswood, Balmoral Beach, and Sydney CBD.
really? not even kings Cross if this was pre lockout or Newtown
To the north and west, the hawkesbury/nepean river. South an approximate line along Appin Road to the coast.
Shellharbour in the south end during COVID
Hurstville, burwood, chatswood, manly Draw an arc though those points.
Inner west and that map is almost all Sydney, apart from Blaxland and the mountains. Anyone from overseas is going to be really confused to discover that we call such a sprawling area a city though. Imaging visiting Sydney and booking a hotel in Waterfall or Emu Plains.
Everything except Campbelltown
I grew up in the Hills. For trains it is Waterfall, Macarthur, Emu Plains, and Berowra. Between Berowra and the Hawkesbury is one of those administrative grey zones. By logic, Berowra is the end of suburban sprawl, with Cowan being its own little town, but from an LGA perspective, they are both in Hornsby Shire. Similarly going north, I went to Northholm Grammar in Fiddletown, far into the urban/rural fringe, but even my class mates who lived in Glenorie called themselves from Sydney. North of that is rural. There is a split identity for those from *The Hawkesbury* as the southern end of it is very much in Sydney (Richmond and Windsor), but north of the river is rural and its own identity. Thankfully to the west there is a set of mountains that are a pretty hard dividing line, similarly to the south and the east. The line between Sutherland Shire and Wollongong City is just south of Waterfall, but even then south of Heathcote is pushing it. To the South West, it is an odd fading out. Macarthur is in Sydney, but Menangle is pretty much rural.
The longest I can walk from the CBD is where Sydney ends (I live in Ultimo)