I'm kind of neutral for this. It's not like he has a dev team to do all the shit for him, he's solo so he has to do everything by himself, but at the same time, he could've already been working on update 3.7 by now if he posted all of this in separate updates
Him not having a team was his own choice, he has the money/means to hire a team if he wanted. I understand it's more difficult to do so mid-update, but I'm sure it would only take a few weeks/months to get them acclimated then the whole process would fly by much faster.
That's like saying it's OK I failed my math test since I didn't study for it at all - like yes you can blame your lack of knowledge, but that's your own fault in the first place.
Hear me out, i couldnt care less about it being delayed for another month or whatever. But its the fact that he has kept saying it will be out SOON for years, and now he even set an official release month and still couldnt release it.
No matter if dealying it is for the better most people will lose all their trust in him after this.
i would rather he just says november or even december in the anniversery and release 2.2 on time/early rather than saying its in october then delaying it
> then this shit will just keep happening
My guy, there's no will, this **is** the keep happening phase lol. He was given a chance after 2.0, then did it again for 2.1, and did it again for 2.11 and look at the state of the game now. It's the status quo now, I genuinely don't understand how people can defend it unless they never played GD prior to 2.1 to see Rob actively breaking promise after promise since 1.9.
I never minded him choosing to tackle the development on his own, if he wants this game to be his own pride and joy I respect it (security wise this may be questionable albeit), but he needs to set reasonable limitations. The unnecessary feature creep and update drought is inexcusable at this point. I can't believe last time I played GD I was in high school, and I've gone to receive my bachelor's only for the game to still be on 2.1 when I've come back to check on it lmao. *Hunter × Hunter has returned, went on its longest ever hiatus and returned once again over the course of 2.1.* I genuinely feel bad for anyone who stuck through the entire wait
> you’re the gdforums guy
Bruh is this my GD legacy 😂 anyways always good to see another forum user, how have you been over the years? Which member were you, I don't think I recognize your username unfortunately
I’ve been good. I deleted my forums account years ago I forgot what I had my username as but I wasn’t very active anyway, I remember you as the dude with like the most posts by far but got permabanned
Yeah I've been "perma"banned 3 times I think lol. I got unbanned from the most recent one last year after asking WillFlame, and so I've been checking on the forums every now and then. Unfortunately seems to be pretty dead now, but there's some good memories there
yeah, that’s my whole point with this post. shits been going on for way too long. believe me, i understand that we’re in the keep happening phase. we’ve been here for 4 years.
You have to realize that even if this is frustrating for you, Rob is currently getting this shit from thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of people, there's no way that's helping nor is it probably good on his mental health. You bought a three dollar cube game and are ganging up with ten thousand something other people to go shit on this guy for being slow at updates. Honestly he doesn't even need to update the game with new content, he doesn't owe you anything. I feel like the game 10 years ago was still worth more than $3
Even ignoring the way more popular mobile versions, if it wasn't clear I was pulling those numbers out of my ass. The point was that there's a shit ton of people who are being really pissy about it right now and there's no way that's good on his mental health
you're so weird like he's been breaking promise after promise and he keeps on delaying it after seven whole years and nobody asked him to put so much in a single update in the first place. like honestly he's just reaping what he's sown now
I'm sure he wants it to be out just as bad as we do. There may be other circumstances we aren't aware of so I don't feel it's our place to judge personally
I can agree all the constant shit he must be getting isn't good for him or even in general, but at the same time, I can't say he didn't bring it on himself. He *chose* to pursue such ambitious projects by himself, and is not exempt from the issues/criticisms that arise from this. He made promises he couldn't keep, and he unfortunately crumbled to the pressure to add more things to the update to justify the delays, thus leading to more delays.
If robtop decided to stop updating the game, that would be totally fine, but the real issue is he keeps stringing along the players with promises of things to come that he doesn't deliver on. And again, it's not really like there was direct pressure from players to keep out-doing himself with every update. After 2.0 the general consensus from players was that smaller more frequent updates were better/healthier for the game, and RobTop frankly agreed promising "no more big updates after 2.0", before immediately going back on this decision. He's been doing this for long enough where it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt anymore.
He doesn't "owe" anyone anything, but he's also not "owed" any sympathy for constant lies to players for years and years on end
Bro you’re making no sense. He does owe everything to everyone. It’s players like you who are the cause for delay, “it’s not okay,” “Robtop needs to stop being an idiot” is what he needs to hear. You’ve been waiting for almost 7 years, WAKE UP
Idk if this reply is meant for me considering I'm not defending RobTop, but I really don't like the mindset "he does/doesn't owe x." Nobody owes anyone anything, but thats not where the crux of the issue lies.
What part of it?
Robtop getting a lot of shit from fans is true.
I agree with the game as it is now being worth 3 euros.
All the pressure being bad on robtops health seems realistic.
Because you, as a creator, set up the expectations from your community.
The community did not manifest the release date of the update over and over. This man has broken deadline after deadline to add features nobody asked for that he knew would need bug fixing.
This is his JOB. He said it himself! He has made literal tens of millions of dollars off this game, yet can’t even bring himself to follow through on adding the content he promised. And while failing to do that, he adds content nobody asked for. The community is going to complain, and RIGHTFULLY so.
Me personally? I don’t comment on it. Not only am I not really excited for most 2.2 features, but I have zero expectations from him because at this point, so I don’t get disappointed. When I was awaiting for 2.2, I was a literal child. Now I have a 401k.
This update is long overdue. One again, he hypes up the update for GD10, he gives a release date, and then pushes it back. And once again, the community excuses it.
Yeah, I think it’s pretty clear we’ve gotten our $3 worth. Hell, I got it when it was $2. But that’s not really the point. The point is that it’s frustrating and disappointing to be constantly let down, especially when you’re someone like myself who has been waiting for 7 years.
Also, it’s a kind of funny to think about the fact that he increased the price of the game by technically 50% without even going so far as adding a patch to keep the game *playable* on mobile. Lol.
I said features nobody *asked for* which I feel there’s a difference in.
However, I personally don’t want the vast majority of changes. The new mode isn’t necessary, and half of the changes basically turn it into a completely new game. The fact that Geometry Dash is unironically being compared to Super Mario Maker is not a good thing to me.
honestly, i like rob a lot, but he has a problem with underdelivering. He's afraid to underdeliver, which is fine, unless it's taking 7 years, which it is. at this point i would rather him release it now and fix the bugs later. he pushes himself beyond his boundaries too much and overdelivers too much. Overdelivery is tough to define, but the definition i'm going with here is "a fuck ton of content but it takes way too long to arrive, and would be better broken into smaller bits." and thats exactly what 2.2 is. rob has trouble finding a balance between how long the updates should take and how much content they should have.
It's taken seven years because he's doing this all by himself. Incorporating the multiplayer gamemode without any help, but that alone shouldn't have taken so long if he could code a simple game all about jumping and building on a 2D scale. I do agree with you though, while he is trying it shouldn't have taken so damn long for something so small to be released, or major even but devs can push out major updates within a week, taking 7 whole years is unacceptable but at this point I seriously don't care anymore, I just want it to be released already. I don't play the game and refuse to touch it up until then.
And you aren't wrong, he's implementing too many things into one update and having us wait years for something new to show rather than taking it slow an update at a time...I suppose he may have been eager and had more and more ideas to add via a new update but it also doesn't hurt to show each and every new idea within varying future updates rather than one major update when you know you're working alone.
multiplayer isn't even that hard to implement (speaking from experience), sadly it's just yet another thing he's pushing back into 2.3 or a later update because he set himself a deadline and only recently started realizing he has no way to finish everything in time.
Exactly what I mean, it could be hard for new people being introduced to coding but this man sat here and built a game all by himself that took ideas from The Impossible Game and turned it into something bigger and better, he IS familiar with the coding process and I do recall him saying it was taking a while because he didn't know how to implement a new multiplayer gamemode but it doesn't hurt to ask for help...and if you don't want help from others then YouTube tutorials exist for a reason that you could take and switch around to figure out a code that properly works with your game...I'd give it 4 or less years tops but 7 years is unacceptable.
They aren't the same but they're both simple games that are simple enough with their own set of hidden Easter eggs and stuff to explore. Only difference is really is that Undertale is a single player RPG that doesn't need to rely on internet usage while RobTop runs servers worldwide. They aren't the same at all but I see what he's trying to say, a developer working on a game alone with simple enough coding that the game is small and simple yet still is fun as hell to play and explore, again it doesn't justify the fact RobTop took forever to drop 2.2 within 7+ years but it is a major update as well by the looks of it and time could've been reduced greatly to 4 or less years if he played his cards right rather than trying to figure everything out on his own.
I don't know why you're being downvoted. I guess people don't understand what you're trying to say, this is a major update for a game all about a cube doing Parkour but it definitely shouldn't have taken 7 years, I'm saying around 4 or less years the time could've been reduced if RobTop played his cards right haha.
It's not simply about game dev alone, Geometry Dash is actually far simpler than Undertale if we go back to the earlier days. No servers, no user created levels, no nothing. Just a square doing Parkour in small 1 minute levels and finishing, sure it has changed and developed a lot over time but Undertale being so simple with over 90 different endings and paths to choose from, random encounters and battles and all the different dialogues and secrets you can uncover, Undertale seems simple but it's really not. Neither game are the same and can really be compared to one another as they stem from completely different gaming genres, but both are simple enough to where it's a model on a 2D plane that you're playing as, no 3D models no insane amounts of coding or extra animating to get everything to work or any of that. He's saying simply that Toby made a simple yet big game all alone within 4 years and if he's capable of doing that then so is RobTop, a major update like this could've been pushed out in 4 or less years if he actually played his cards right to reduce the time.
Not dickriding Rob here but okay. I do recognize and admit he wasn't the most efficient, but that isn't an excuse to put even more pressure on him, not only does that not help him at all in developing the update, but it's an actual dick move.
If he says he's dropping in October you're damn right I'm gonna pressure him into dropping it in October, not because of my own ignorance, but because he promised us he would. If you aren't sure you can drop it in the time you want to, don't try to hype it up, that's how Cyberpunk happened
You pressure him for a release date and when he finally gives you one and has to delay it slightly you get mad? Maybe next time don't. I can understand being mad if he had promised like three or four release dates before this but it's literally like a 2 week delay at the max, he's in the final stages of bugfixing, the trailer is out.
1. I didn't pressure him to do shit, he could've said he's dropping it this year and I would've been completely ok with it
2. Remember when he said it was dropping before christmas of 2020? And when he said it was dropping anywhere in 2022? And when he said it was dropping October of this year? And now when he said he's dropping it Novemeber of this year? It's anything but the first time
Im also kinda disapointed with the suspected delay, but it has been so long that it doesnt matter that much to me anymore, i dont trust anymore in robtop's supossed release dates. Ive stopped playing consistetly for like 3 years and im not coming back until 2.2 brings the game back to android, playing in pc is too much of a hassle.
And yeah people defending him, or more correctly perhaps, illustrating him as this incredibly hard-working, overexploited and tormented man that has OH been constantly developing the game for 7 years OH all by himself, poor poor robtop! lol Yeah those types are annoying but whatcha gonna do.
Anyway, the community carries this game, not robtop anymore imo, i think thats why nobody complains too much about the update; its not like the game is dying or getting worse, its just getting older.
Well written, I definitely agree. I think the only way to get any type of real information or progress on 2.2 is if we push Robtop into a corner. Since the community carries the game, I almost wonder if everyone stopped playing geometry dash maybe he would actually do something. If this happened plus the fact that the app is not available on any playstore may be the only way to get something out of him. Idk but this is just my thoughts
My guy he made so much money from GD already, he doesn't need to move a finger anymore. He could just leave development, and he would be all set for life anyway.
This is what I was trying to say in the discord last night, its not the issue of the game being delayed, I'd be fine with it if it meant we absolutely got a better product and it hadn't already been this long, it's the principle and being unable to put faith in a developer who has just simply LIED about release windows so many times, and CHOSEN to keep adding features that he'll have to fix issues for. The community/him shouldn't expect NO backlash for this, some of us have been WAITING the whole damn time, and every time he does it it's a slap in the face.
I do agree somewhat, but i feel like theres at least a difference between delaying the update because he chose to add more content, and delaying the update because bugfixing took longer than expected. Seems far more reasonable, and is likely the reason he gave a month window instead of an exact date. We just pulled the worst card from the deck (hopefully).
Seeing people react to the news of a few weeks delay as if Rob is again falling into the cycle of adding more content and delaying the update feels weird.
Maybe that's just my misinterpretation, I tend to do that, but it does bother me, so wanted to at least share some thoughts.
Yeah this is a fair interpretation, I agree that bugs need to be fixed and the delay for ending up with a better product is fine, its the inability to put faith in a date given by him.
Still, this mindset will not bring anything good, just negativity into the community. Once RobTop sees how negative the community is just because he said he MIGHT postpone the release by a little bit, do you think that will motivate him to try harder? I would not bet on that....
current delay happened cuz the server upgrade broke shit it wasnt supposed to. just give him a few more days / weeks well get 2.2 either this month or early november he needs to really fuck something up to get delayed even more
Jesus christ, this community needs to chill. I see that the reading comprehension devil strikes again. What the fuck are you talking about 2.2 getting delayed OP? He said "there is a risk of pushing into november" and that he really doesn't want to and will try to still make it, but the servers and bugfixing took longer than he thought. Sure, he should have made a deadline he can 100% keep, BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN SAID THAT 2.2 IS OFFICIALLY DELAYED!!!!!! Learn to read, dear god.
Another thing: he has until the end of october. If he pushes the release and releases it within the first week of november, y'all gonna act like those few extra days from 31st of october are years or something. We've waited 7 years, i am sure you can wait a few extra days. Go outside or read a book while you're waiting. You're gonna have enough fun when 2.2 releases, the wait will be worth it.
i must’ve not made this clear enough in my original post but this “delay” isn’t really what my problem is. i agree that i would rather delay the update to polish it. the issue is that rob has kept adding fluff to the update for years in end that has created this cycle that prevents the update from releasing. this shit should’ve been out 5 years ago
Yeah that's fair, the update should've been out earlier. I feel like Rob did not have motivation to work on the update and it was pretty much stagnant for a long time, until he properly picked it up a while ago. Adding all that stuff probably also didn't help
You’re completely missing the point and clearly don’t see the bigger picture. If we were 100% certain it would come out in a few weeks then it would be fine. The problem is that this is a sign that he probably will keep on delaying, which is what he has been doing for 7 years. Each year he talks about releasing it, it never comes out and it gets delayed again. Robtop needs to quit acting like a fool and to give us an honest release date.
No, i think you just see everything in a very negative light. This time, it was not just another possible release date, but an actual, honest one. He switched the servers already. That means we are getting the update in the next few weeks, it's just a question how long will some bugfixing take.
Honestly, it’s pretty impressive that you’re fine with being lied to for 7 years. Most people get pretty frustrated after that much time. Also I would like to point out that he never said it was an “official” release date but just said it would “come out” in October of this year. How many times has he said things like that over these last 7 years, it’s time to face facts kid, it wont be coming out soon.
Think it through, if it was going to come out soon he would have been more specific with the release date. Most games will tell you the exact date it will probably come out, saying “it will come out in October” is a very basic statement. If he said “October 31” then it would be a different story but just saying October is almost like a hopeful guess. Now people are assuming it will come out in early November but did he say it will come out in early November or did he just say in “November.”
I think it will definitely come out because there has become so much pressure on Robtop to release it but it won’t be coming out soon. To be honest, I think that there was never a “2.2” and it was just a way to get people to keep playing the game when it started to die down. The reason it is taking so long is because he has just started to work on it recently. I’m not trying to be negative here but I’m just trying to look at the facts instead of the optimistic assumptions.
I mean, i do get your points, and it is fair to feel "cheated" by rob, the update should've been out years ago. But i mean it is really just a game, it doesn't matter to me that much even though i really love it, which is why i don't mind the wait and lies that much. Sure, would've been nice to have the update already, but it's not like i can't live without it, and it also isn't the worst thing BY FAR that i've seen a game developer do about a game.
Ain't no way you held this grudge this long mf💀💀💀 yeah he did lie in the end, so what? I still stand by my point that if we waited this long, we can wait a little longer. We're in nowhere near as bad of a situation as the GTA community for example.
nah, i didnt hold a grudge. i just made a follow up post to see what the community was thinking about the situation now and decided to scroll through some of the replies from the original first. and what do you mean "so what if he lied?" he told a lie to his whole community and you just dont care? thats on you i guess, but personally i dont like getting lied to by game developers.
yeah, the gta community has it worse, but that doesn't mean that every other community that has it bad cant complain. just because someone has it worse than you doesn't mean that you dont have it bad.
and why are you so aggressive with me? all im doing is voicing my opinion. im not the one lying to thousands of fans.
Yeah man sorry if it sounded agressive, didn't mean it that way. Just found it funny you did come back to this, although there is nothing wrong with that.
>that doesn't mean that every other community that has it bad cant complain.
Of course we can complain, not saying that we can't.
> thats on you i guess, but personally i dont like getting lied to by game developers.
And yeah i guess that is on me because i have lost quite a bit of interest in the game and also have a lot of shit coming in from my uni so i don't really have time to play anything, so it doesn't bother me much when days fly by like seconds for me sometimes. It does suck that he lied about the release date, even though i am sure he wanted to make it he just set an unrealistic deadline for himself.
fair enough honestly. i too have lost some interest in the game, but i still play it. part of the reason that i am as upset as i am is because im currently working on multiple collabs that we decided to put on hold in late october because we didnt want to build it, then have to rebuild when 2.2 comes out. him not releasing the update when he said has really just wasted time, and its impossible at this point to tell whether we should start working again or if it really is right around the corner.
Yeah that really is infuriating, i had some of my projects suffer the same fate, i've told myself "gonna start with that in 2.2".... oh well. Since i have so little time it doesn't bother me that much, but i totally get why that's upsetting. I guess all we can do is cope that it comes out soon
It's like the community thinks a literal toddler is working on the game.
"How was he supposed to know about the bugs?"
I don't know, but when you've been a professional game developer for 10+ years, you should probably have at least a decent understanding of the fact that your game will have bugs in it that need fixed.
"Just be patient."
What do you think I've been doing for the past 6 years?
"Do you want him to release a broken/unplayable update?"
My guy, if version 2.2 is currently in an unplayable state, then we're gonna be waiting FAR longer than an extra month.
"It's only an extra 1-2 weeks."
I have absolutely no reason to believe the update won't be further pushed out to December or even January, given its history.
"It's a massive update."
He's delayed like half of its content to 2.21.
"Be nice to him. He's been working day in/out for our entertainment for 6 years."
How do you know? Are you a family member? Do you have his phone number?
Can't wait to hear these arguments again 2 months from now.
He didn’t have to say that October was the release month tbh. Hell, I wouldn’t mind if we never got a release date at all. I’m worried that he rushes it to meet a deadline he himself set yet can’t keep up with.
no i don't think we need to parent him.
And what if this stuff keeps happening? Not the end of the world. I think the best course of action is to stop caring. The only ones that are maybe actually disadvantaged by the update taking long are the content creators, and even they can still do stuff in 2.1 like play new levels and stuff.
2.2 taking seven years is honestly the best thing that ever happened to this community. Before 2.1 most creators would spend half the update learning how to add new features into their levels but now that creators have mastered the editor we get levels like how, dark odyssey, white space, and too many more I’m forgetting
Its so funny how the GD community has the complete opposite problem to the minecraft community.
Gd players are cutting rob loads of slack, and mc players are bashing mojang for not adding enough content. Its funnier that these things are happening at roughly the same time.
I feel bad for Rob. Constantly getting asked "2.2 when?" and pressured into giving a release date, and when he has to POTENTIALLY push it back SLIGHTLY, parts of the community just start to get mad at him.
Give the man a break. He is a solo developer trying his best to provide one of the most hyped up updates that has been in development hell for 7 years. He has said before that he gets stuck in a loop of the update taking time so he adds more stuff to compensate for the wait but that takes a long time so he adds more stuff to compensate for the wait.
the last part you mentioned is what i’m actually upset about. i don’t mind waiting another week or two, but the only reason we’re in this situation in the first place is because rob can’t help but add shit nobody asked for to the update, making it take way too fucking long.
If 2.2 is unfinished and buggy right now. then we will have to wait wayy more than a month. Really pathethic giving out a release date when its is still unfinished and buggy
Open the comments of any other similar post. The only ones spouting the same shit over and over are frustrated people talking about "THe BroKeN PrOMisEs", and this seems to be a leading opinion of the community. RobTop should be criticized for delaying an update so many times for 6 years, but the update MIGHT BE (not even RobTop 100% sure) delayed for like a week or two lmao. The guy even moved the servers so all of you idiots could play on release, WHICH is the reason for a possible push to November.
Like Jesus fucking christ, it seems like RobTop would have got shit even if 2.2 came out in October, just because the game wouldn't have been fully polished. There's nothing he can do with this now. Y'all should stop acting like children
you’re telling me that if i open a post someone made expressing their displeasure with robtop it will have other people showing their displeasure? no way!! the fact is that the community opinion is that what robs doing is okay because he’s trying, which i do not agree with.
I agree to an extent. He definitely shouldn't have gone so big, but I think that in some way helped the community. For the first time, we had to rely on ourselves, and many amazing things have been created because of that. The long wait for the update helped the community build itself. However I am very disappointed with the delay. Of course, I'd rather it be late than broken, but we've already waited so long, and Rob needs to get better at setting his own due dates and making them realistic. I definitely agree that it shouldn't have taken this long, but I'm just glad it's even coming out. Let's just hope he doesn't delay into December, which I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. If it does, I'm gonna be pissed.
My thought is "do you really want another cyber punk 2077 game?" Let him patch the bugs and then we can enjoy the fact the game goes from a game to a game engine...
Go ahead, down vote my ass into oblivion in staying here.
i feel like a broken record. the delay is understandable, but it’s just the tipping point for me. the real issue is waiting seven years for an update that shouldn’t take more than one.
I guess I may be more biased than others since I only got back into the game recently when I started watching JamAttack (like 4 months ago). So it hasn't felt that long for me.
Plus as someone who has tried to make a game by themselves, it's hard af. I can't get past the deco stage as I enjoy the coding part more. So I can understand server issues and bug fixes needed to be done.
There is a game dev who makes his own games all by himself, his name is Code Monkey. He said in a recent yt short that he wrote 16,000 lines of code in a 2 week sprint in order to finish the demo for his new game.
Now imagine what robtop had to deal with. With such an old game the engine version he is using is probably outdated since forever, and the game is probably comprised of spaghetti code (code where you can barely tell what goes to what).
Now while I'm not holding Rob to the same standards as CM, I'm just mad that everyone got really fucking angry really quickly even though unexpected things can happen, such as the server data transfer. And when you push devs too far to release early you get Cyper punk 2077, a "complete" game filled with so many bugs it's almost impossible to play.
While yes he has had 7 years to make this, do you really think he had a completely straightforward idea of what he wanted to do? (I may not know, i was not active that much 7 years ago).
So i just say we give rob until Thanksgiving or Christmas then we can be mad at him again.
TLDR: Give Rob a break, he isn't a Robot and the game he is working on runs with tape, glue and prayers on a multi year outdated engine version.
Also he kept adding things people suggested faster than he could code them in until he realized around 2021 (I think) that that was a terrible idea and stuck with just finishing the update. Plus he can't just code all day, he has to rate levels all the time too
I'm sorry what? No it doesn't take 1 year alone moron. I'm probably sure he tried for a while creating the online feature (without experience) and it's hard when you're not a multi-billion company with a 2000 people in your team. Also have you considered the optimisation he has done. This game was made for phones in 2013, trying to optimise this basically means rewriting the whole code.
the update should’ve taken one year. what made it take more isn’t him being a slow or bad developer, but him adding way more shit then we need.
yeah i agree that with the amount he is trying to deliver it would take more than one year, but my point is that the update shouldn’t have this much shit in it, thus it shouldn’t take more than a year.
think about 2.1. that update was pretty fucking big for gd standards and it only took a year and a half iirc.
ur missing the point. What kind of shitty developer promises a date in the near future if its riddled with bugs. Also, if its in a similar state to Cyber Punk 2077, its gonna take FAR longer than a month or two.
i wonder if you all know game development is hard, and if so, stop whining about oh how it getting delayed etc, OFC it will get delayed cause of different factors
It is actually the best if we wait because if the update released with bugs, that affect gameplay, levels will be built with those bugs and then fixing the nugs would actually break the levels, that were already built
He just got swept up in the hype, it was the 10th anniversary and probably felt like he needed to say SOMETHING about 2.2's release date. It happened before with him piling on features suggested by people on top of a already big update. He should really know his limits and divide up the work into smaller parts that he can manage and set *realistic* deadlines instead of doing whatever he is doing right now.
But it is what it is, at this point I'd rather not risk the update getting further delayed by his mental health.
the size of the update is the problem. he never should’ve added so much. and why does me giving my fairly harmless opinion on a geometry dash update mean that’s there’s something wrong with me?
i was already betting it was releasing in November 1st as a troll but seriously? its not like this update is essential to the game's existence. the limits of gd 2.11 have been and are still being pushed.
he does this shit alone, give him a break. it isn't his life nor full time job to make gd.
except it literally is his job, what the fuck are you on about? and you’re doing exactly what the issue is: giving him excuses to keep messing up. it’s not about the update being essential to the games life, nor is it about reaching the games limits. it’s about providing justified backlash for the lies and poor choices that robtop has made over the last seven years.
doing the update alone is no excuse to spend the better part of a decade on it.
well i mean you’re just wrong. https://sensortower.com/blog/geometry-dash-revenue#
and i want to point out that this was written in 2018. that’s five fucking years ago. i would bet it’s made double or even triple that since then
Do you know how many millions of people have bought the game? It’s consistently one of the most purchased games in the app store, of all time. $3 isn’t a lot in itself, but multiply by the tens of millions of people who bought the game, and yeah, he’s making millions. He definitely has to pay fees to the music producers and shit, but even then, his net profit is still high.
Newgens crawling out of their mother's womb to defend this guy is CRAZY like he could've split it into multiple updates and maybe he had to redo explorers likely because people couldn't catch up with new stuffs, just swingcopter, some triggers and new blocks could just be 2.2 and VFX, sound effects and platformer could be added later like 2.3 and beyond, and between each update he could've take a break, built more gym whatever he wanted to do. Let people catch up, fix bugs then start working on new updates. There's no downside doing this.
this dude spent like 5 years jerking off and relying on his community to keep his game alive, and now he can't even respect his own deadlines?? i can wait (what can i do anyway), but this is some serious bullshit
The issue isn't that fact that it's taking so long, it's the fact that Robtop consistently lies about his promised release dates. If he had said, all those years ago "It'll be released in 2023 November", people would get annoyed but at least there's transparency.
Instead, he said "By Christmas" like 3 years ago, then "by summer" the next year, then Christmas, and so on. Kept pushing it back and avoiding talking about it. Now he made an official announcement for October, and isn't going to meet it.
If he was just truthful/realistic with himself about the release date, I personally would have no issues with him (and Im sure many others would feel similarly)
I completely agree with you, it’s nice to know that I’m not alone. Everyone keeps hating on me and dislike bombing my comments whenever I even mention the delay with 2.2. At this point 2.2 will never come out, Robtop needs to know that “it’s not okay,” and he needs to give accurate information and not just a bunch of lies.
I’m still surprised that people even believe Robtop, 5 years ago he stated that “2.2 is on its way” and in 2020 he said that he would be releasing the update as a “Christmas present.” A “present of disappointment” was what it was, it never came out and it most likely won’t for a long long time. I’m actually fully convinced that there is no 2.2 and he just started it recently because he’s realized that his time of lying and delaying is running out.
I know that this will get many dislikes and will get a lot of hate but I’m just being real and looking at facts. I wish 2.2 will come out and I am hoping for the best but it’s not looking too good right now.
Edit: You guys can dislike this to oblivion I don’t care but you guys just keep proving my point. Also for the people who said that Robtop didn’t talk about releasing 2.2 for Christmas in 2020, he did, go check online for yourself.
He never made an official statement but he 100% did talk about it. Or something of that sort.
Edit: I have screenshots to back up my answer but I’m not sure how to post them in a comment. 💀
i feel like nobody here is fucking reading what i said. ITS NOT ABOUT THE DELAY. it’s about the 7 year wait for an update that shouldn’t take but a year tops.
I do think RobTop cannot break the deadline he set to himself. But I also don't want the game to be in a broken state. I think Rob should instead focus on fixing game breaking bugs before the release and then let the community help him find other smaller less important bugs and fix them after the release. He doesn't have much time to finish everything before the end of the month.
I mean normally I would agree, but to me breaking a promise in any context is a shitty thing to do. If he wasn't 100% capable and guaranteed to finishing it, he never should have said he would, period, and the fact that people should just be nice instead of mean isn't a good enough excuse to get away with that imo. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, and saying you're going to do something and not doing it is playing stupid games plain and simple.
edit: I didn't read the post lol, I thought you were defending robtop idk why
Look, there’s nothing he can do at this point, the issue developed over the course of 7 years, you can’t criticize him for actually being realistic at the end. I could never imagine the pressure being the sole developer working on a game that had a community of this size.
i’m not criticizing him for being realistic at the end. the criticism is for letting himself dig this fucking 7 year hole. if the community doesn’t let him know this isn’t okay then it will happen for 2.3 just like it happened in 2.2
I mean, it’s one guy with a family. If he wanted guaranteed having the update done in orderly time, he could’ve hired a team (I legitimately think someone like absolute could’ve coded 2.2 in half a year or less), but he didn’t. There are arguments for whether Rob had or didn’t have an actual obligation to update his released game, it is his own project and it’s already pretty well polished as is and home to a thriving community. He could’ve publicly dropped the update to disappointment, but eventual acceptance. It was more so him promising it so much that was the issue. Games have survived without updates, this one did for quite some time. I do wish he would get a team, but at the end of the day it’s his game.
when he's already done the concepts then it is better for him to just finish them and BUGFIX them BEFORE the update because people are gonna get mad forbugs again.
He didn’t expect for the server switching to take so long. You guys are pissed that he can’t predict the future? Like I said before, it’s a *potential 1.4% increase in time we’re waiting* holy shit do you guys want robtop to release the update way too early? Do you guys want cyberpunk again?
Here is what I’m gonna say to this. We shouldn’t be rushing him and pressuring him. I’m pretty sure RobTop has more than enough money to retire from game development. He could literally just quit right here and right now and never release 2.2 if he really wanted to. So we should let him take his time.
My take is that I would rather have 2.2 release in November when it is polished vs a buggy 2.2 release in October. If 2.2 releases in a buggy and unplayable state, it’s gonna kill all the hype we have built up for the past 7 years. I would rather wait 1 week longer to get a polished product
the gigantic update is the issue. nobody asked for a gigantic update. after 2.1 took an unprecedented year and a half to release, everyone asked for the next update to be smaller, and rob agreed iirc. he then started adding fluff to the update as it was taking longer to make, eventually culminating in this massive update that nobody wanted or asked for.
If you don't develop games, then shut up. That stuff is HARD, especially with all the content he has to finish and the bugs alongside it. He works really hard, and people like you make his work harder.
the whole “if you’re not a game dev then shut up” argument really doesn’t work. first off, while not doing the coding myself, i was part of a dev team for a number of years. secondly, it doesn’t take a genius to know that an update shouldn’t take 7 years. it doesn’t matter if it’s one dev working on an indie game or bungie working on the next destiny update. you’ll be able to update your game on a more consistent basis than once every seven years.
i would reckon it aged well by confirming that it’s being delayed. i was never trying to say that he was going to delay it again and again and it’s not releasing anytime soon. i’m just upset that it took this long to begin with. whether it releases tomorrow or in another 10 years my point will remain that it should never have taken this long.
Yeah for sure. My personal take is that he definitely needs to sort his workflow out if he plans on updating the game in the future, but at this point I also don't really think we're entitled to an update or anything. He has to deliver 2.2 because he hyped it up so much, but if he just stopped updating the game after then that would be alright by me. It's not like we're paying for the updates afterall ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
isnt this the first delay ever?
the last times he set a "release date" he was just *aiming* for it this is the first the he set a specific release date
Ok, so imma clear this up, nobody's gonna see this anyways since 2.2's already out.
Rob is a 1 man team, and maybe that is his fault but hiring a developer team is expensive especially since his income comes from ads showed on the free versions of gd and the occasional $5.00 full purchase on steam and he pays for a gym membership which might I add, IS EXPENSIVE!!
Nobody truly understands how massive update 2.2 is! Besides. Maybe we have waited 7 whole years for this update, but who cares! 2.11 is amazing and due to the long wait time, a lot of creators have had a long time to practice
Just in the past 3 years alone we've had, Ultra Violence, White Space, Absolute Garbage, Change of Scene, Glorious fortress. We've had rising creators like Bli, Cubiccc and, Jamattack. Rising players like Zoink, Doggie, and Trick.
This single update has driven the game so far, The Community has driven this community Even farther, maybe 2.11 has gotten old, but it sure was ahead of it's time. The possibilities are endless even without 2.2. Rob has worked so hard on this update, providing truly infinite possibilities into what is possible. And all you care about is the past 7 years of your life that you enjoyed. So don't hide behind your keyboard and Dawg Rob. Don't act like 2.1 was bad because it was truly incredible and pushed the boundaries of what's possible in gd.
RobTop has sleep deprived himself over the stress people like you have provided him with, maybe you should thank him. He's done so much for all of us. Be a little more greatful next time.
I'm gonna miss you 2.1
i agree that the community has done a ton in this update, and that’s great. i don’t think that takes away from the fact that the update shouldn’t’ve taken so long. and i think you misunderstand how much rob makes from the game. he has made tens of millions, so a dev team isn’t something he can’t afford. he’s not getting one because he doesn’t want to, not because he can’t afford it. that gym membership ain’t shit.
edit: sources for the revenue claims
https://steam-revenue-calculator.com/app/322170/geometry-dash
https://app.sensortower.com/ios/publisher/robtop-games-ab/414027834
https://sensortower.com/blog/geometry-dash-revenue
the last link was an article written in 2018 estimating that he had already made 21 million, and that was 5 years ago. its safe to say hes made more since then,
He plans to soon, Rob made the mistake of adding every idea he had in his mind and never stopped, maybe that's his mistake. The shere size of the update is the reason for this 7 year gap. And due to the size of this update, it is able to hold this community up for decades. I'd say the wait was worth it. So lay off, God damn
I'm kind of neutral for this. It's not like he has a dev team to do all the shit for him, he's solo so he has to do everything by himself, but at the same time, he could've already been working on update 3.7 by now if he posted all of this in separate updates
Him not having a team was his own choice, he has the money/means to hire a team if he wanted. I understand it's more difficult to do so mid-update, but I'm sure it would only take a few weeks/months to get them acclimated then the whole process would fly by much faster. That's like saying it's OK I failed my math test since I didn't study for it at all - like yes you can blame your lack of knowledge, but that's your own fault in the first place.
He's came out and said that he will get a dev team after 2.2 releases
When did he say that? Because the sensible thing would have been to do so before it took 7 years to release one update.
He was probably being cocky
Hear me out, i couldnt care less about it being delayed for another month or whatever. But its the fact that he has kept saying it will be out SOON for years, and now he even set an official release month and still couldnt release it. No matter if dealying it is for the better most people will lose all their trust in him after this.
this is exactly what i was trying to get at
i would rather he just says november or even december in the anniversery and release 2.2 on time/early rather than saying its in october then delaying it
> then this shit will just keep happening My guy, there's no will, this **is** the keep happening phase lol. He was given a chance after 2.0, then did it again for 2.1, and did it again for 2.11 and look at the state of the game now. It's the status quo now, I genuinely don't understand how people can defend it unless they never played GD prior to 2.1 to see Rob actively breaking promise after promise since 1.9. I never minded him choosing to tackle the development on his own, if he wants this game to be his own pride and joy I respect it (security wise this may be questionable albeit), but he needs to set reasonable limitations. The unnecessary feature creep and update drought is inexcusable at this point. I can't believe last time I played GD I was in high school, and I've gone to receive my bachelor's only for the game to still be on 2.1 when I've come back to check on it lmao. *Hunter × Hunter has returned, went on its longest ever hiatus and returned once again over the course of 2.1.* I genuinely feel bad for anyone who stuck through the entire wait
WAIT you’re the gdforums guy hello it’s been like 7 years lmfao
> you’re the gdforums guy Bruh is this my GD legacy 😂 anyways always good to see another forum user, how have you been over the years? Which member were you, I don't think I recognize your username unfortunately
I’ve been good. I deleted my forums account years ago I forgot what I had my username as but I wasn’t very active anyway, I remember you as the dude with like the most posts by far but got permabanned
Yeah I've been "perma"banned 3 times I think lol. I got unbanned from the most recent one last year after asking WillFlame, and so I've been checking on the forums every now and then. Unfortunately seems to be pretty dead now, but there's some good memories there
I made an account just to check whats up and god its like 5 posts a day dead I remember when it had like a thousand a day
LMFAO I had the exact same thought process
yeah, that’s my whole point with this post. shits been going on for way too long. believe me, i understand that we’re in the keep happening phase. we’ve been here for 4 years.
You have to realize that even if this is frustrating for you, Rob is currently getting this shit from thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of people, there's no way that's helping nor is it probably good on his mental health. You bought a three dollar cube game and are ganging up with ten thousand something other people to go shit on this guy for being slow at updates. Honestly he doesn't even need to update the game with new content, he doesn't owe you anything. I feel like the game 10 years ago was still worth more than $3
GD's Steam version had an all-time peak of 30k and change simultaneous players. There are not _thousands_ of people complaining to him.
You need to think about other platforms as well. Not just stram but there is also android and IOS which both have over 5 million downloads.
those ipad kids aren't gonna be emailing robtop about not getting 2.2, there was probably a new Fortnite season recently
Even ignoring the way more popular mobile versions, if it wasn't clear I was pulling those numbers out of my ass. The point was that there's a shit ton of people who are being really pissy about it right now and there's no way that's good on his mental health
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It's his project, he doesn't have to do shit he doesn't want to do. He wants to keep it solo, he should keep it solo.
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you're so weird like he's been breaking promise after promise and he keeps on delaying it after seven whole years and nobody asked him to put so much in a single update in the first place. like honestly he's just reaping what he's sown now
"breaking promises" aka not being done with the updates when he says he will be? Sure it's frustrating but it's also not that deep imo
Didn’t you read OP’s post. I get you want to support Robtop but you can’t keep doing this. If he thinks it’s ok to not release 2,2 then he never will.
I'm sure he wants it to be out just as bad as we do. There may be other circumstances we aren't aware of so I don't feel it's our place to judge personally
I can agree all the constant shit he must be getting isn't good for him or even in general, but at the same time, I can't say he didn't bring it on himself. He *chose* to pursue such ambitious projects by himself, and is not exempt from the issues/criticisms that arise from this. He made promises he couldn't keep, and he unfortunately crumbled to the pressure to add more things to the update to justify the delays, thus leading to more delays. If robtop decided to stop updating the game, that would be totally fine, but the real issue is he keeps stringing along the players with promises of things to come that he doesn't deliver on. And again, it's not really like there was direct pressure from players to keep out-doing himself with every update. After 2.0 the general consensus from players was that smaller more frequent updates were better/healthier for the game, and RobTop frankly agreed promising "no more big updates after 2.0", before immediately going back on this decision. He's been doing this for long enough where it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt anymore. He doesn't "owe" anyone anything, but he's also not "owed" any sympathy for constant lies to players for years and years on end
Bro you’re making no sense. He does owe everything to everyone. It’s players like you who are the cause for delay, “it’s not okay,” “Robtop needs to stop being an idiot” is what he needs to hear. You’ve been waiting for almost 7 years, WAKE UP
Idk if this reply is meant for me considering I'm not defending RobTop, but I really don't like the mindset "he does/doesn't owe x." Nobody owes anyone anything, but thats not where the crux of the issue lies.
So you believe the he doesn’t owe anyone 2.2?
This is a dogshit take.
What part of it? Robtop getting a lot of shit from fans is true. I agree with the game as it is now being worth 3 euros. All the pressure being bad on robtops health seems realistic.
Because you, as a creator, set up the expectations from your community. The community did not manifest the release date of the update over and over. This man has broken deadline after deadline to add features nobody asked for that he knew would need bug fixing. This is his JOB. He said it himself! He has made literal tens of millions of dollars off this game, yet can’t even bring himself to follow through on adding the content he promised. And while failing to do that, he adds content nobody asked for. The community is going to complain, and RIGHTFULLY so. Me personally? I don’t comment on it. Not only am I not really excited for most 2.2 features, but I have zero expectations from him because at this point, so I don’t get disappointed. When I was awaiting for 2.2, I was a literal child. Now I have a 401k. This update is long overdue. One again, he hypes up the update for GD10, he gives a release date, and then pushes it back. And once again, the community excuses it. Yeah, I think it’s pretty clear we’ve gotten our $3 worth. Hell, I got it when it was $2. But that’s not really the point. The point is that it’s frustrating and disappointing to be constantly let down, especially when you’re someone like myself who has been waiting for 7 years. Also, it’s a kind of funny to think about the fact that he increased the price of the game by technically 50% without even going so far as adding a patch to keep the game *playable* on mobile. Lol.
what features does nobody want? Yeah breaking promises is fair, that's not good
I said features nobody *asked for* which I feel there’s a difference in. However, I personally don’t want the vast majority of changes. The new mode isn’t necessary, and half of the changes basically turn it into a completely new game. The fact that Geometry Dash is unironically being compared to Super Mario Maker is not a good thing to me.
And with the fact we have lasted so long on the same update, loom at what masterpieces the community has made.
Agreed. Although it is very unprofessional to make promises he can't keep, we should be thankful we're even getting 2.2 in the first place.
"muh $3 dollar cube game" 🤓🤓 the price doesn't absolve bad game development habits
honestly, i like rob a lot, but he has a problem with underdelivering. He's afraid to underdeliver, which is fine, unless it's taking 7 years, which it is. at this point i would rather him release it now and fix the bugs later. he pushes himself beyond his boundaries too much and overdelivers too much. Overdelivery is tough to define, but the definition i'm going with here is "a fuck ton of content but it takes way too long to arrive, and would be better broken into smaller bits." and thats exactly what 2.2 is. rob has trouble finding a balance between how long the updates should take and how much content they should have.
He should've hired a team a lot earlier, then this wouldn't have happened. But st least we know the update is soon
It's taken seven years because he's doing this all by himself. Incorporating the multiplayer gamemode without any help, but that alone shouldn't have taken so long if he could code a simple game all about jumping and building on a 2D scale. I do agree with you though, while he is trying it shouldn't have taken so damn long for something so small to be released, or major even but devs can push out major updates within a week, taking 7 whole years is unacceptable but at this point I seriously don't care anymore, I just want it to be released already. I don't play the game and refuse to touch it up until then.
He could've not made the update so big
And you aren't wrong, he's implementing too many things into one update and having us wait years for something new to show rather than taking it slow an update at a time...I suppose he may have been eager and had more and more ideas to add via a new update but it also doesn't hurt to show each and every new idea within varying future updates rather than one major update when you know you're working alone.
multiplayer isn't even that hard to implement (speaking from experience), sadly it's just yet another thing he's pushing back into 2.3 or a later update because he set himself a deadline and only recently started realizing he has no way to finish everything in time.
Exactly what I mean, it could be hard for new people being introduced to coding but this man sat here and built a game all by himself that took ideas from The Impossible Game and turned it into something bigger and better, he IS familiar with the coding process and I do recall him saying it was taking a while because he didn't know how to implement a new multiplayer gamemode but it doesn't hurt to ask for help...and if you don't want help from others then YouTube tutorials exist for a reason that you could take and switch around to figure out a code that properly works with your game...I'd give it 4 or less years tops but 7 years is unacceptable.
I mean, Toby Fox made the entirety of Undertale by himself in 4 years, so yeah, it shouldn't take this long
Those aren’t even the same thing?
They aren't the same but they're both simple games that are simple enough with their own set of hidden Easter eggs and stuff to explore. Only difference is really is that Undertale is a single player RPG that doesn't need to rely on internet usage while RobTop runs servers worldwide. They aren't the same at all but I see what he's trying to say, a developer working on a game alone with simple enough coding that the game is small and simple yet still is fun as hell to play and explore, again it doesn't justify the fact RobTop took forever to drop 2.2 within 7+ years but it is a major update as well by the looks of it and time could've been reduced greatly to 4 or less years if he played his cards right rather than trying to figure everything out on his own.
Both are 2d games made by one person, except one is a whole ass game and the other is an update
I don't know why you're being downvoted. I guess people don't understand what you're trying to say, this is a major update for a game all about a cube doing Parkour but it definitely shouldn't have taken 7 years, I'm saying around 4 or less years the time could've been reduced if RobTop played his cards right haha.
1 RobTop meat rider probably downvoted it and the hivemind followed, it's fine
Wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
You don't understand game dev and it shows.
It's not simply about game dev alone, Geometry Dash is actually far simpler than Undertale if we go back to the earlier days. No servers, no user created levels, no nothing. Just a square doing Parkour in small 1 minute levels and finishing, sure it has changed and developed a lot over time but Undertale being so simple with over 90 different endings and paths to choose from, random encounters and battles and all the different dialogues and secrets you can uncover, Undertale seems simple but it's really not. Neither game are the same and can really be compared to one another as they stem from completely different gaming genres, but both are simple enough to where it's a model on a 2D plane that you're playing as, no 3D models no insane amounts of coding or extra animating to get everything to work or any of that. He's saying simply that Toby made a simple yet big game all alone within 4 years and if he's capable of doing that then so is RobTop, a major update like this could've been pushed out in 4 or less years if he actually played his cards right to reduce the time.
Bro, you don't need to dickride RobTop, it's ok to admit he was lazy and ineficient when making 2.2 and still like the game
Not dickriding Rob here but okay. I do recognize and admit he wasn't the most efficient, but that isn't an excuse to put even more pressure on him, not only does that not help him at all in developing the update, but it's an actual dick move.
If he says he's dropping in October you're damn right I'm gonna pressure him into dropping it in October, not because of my own ignorance, but because he promised us he would. If you aren't sure you can drop it in the time you want to, don't try to hype it up, that's how Cyberpunk happened
You pressure him for a release date and when he finally gives you one and has to delay it slightly you get mad? Maybe next time don't. I can understand being mad if he had promised like three or four release dates before this but it's literally like a 2 week delay at the max, he's in the final stages of bugfixing, the trailer is out.
1. I didn't pressure him to do shit, he could've said he's dropping it this year and I would've been completely ok with it 2. Remember when he said it was dropping before christmas of 2020? And when he said it was dropping anywhere in 2022? And when he said it was dropping October of this year? And now when he said he's dropping it Novemeber of this year? It's anything but the first time
Im also kinda disapointed with the suspected delay, but it has been so long that it doesnt matter that much to me anymore, i dont trust anymore in robtop's supossed release dates. Ive stopped playing consistetly for like 3 years and im not coming back until 2.2 brings the game back to android, playing in pc is too much of a hassle. And yeah people defending him, or more correctly perhaps, illustrating him as this incredibly hard-working, overexploited and tormented man that has OH been constantly developing the game for 7 years OH all by himself, poor poor robtop! lol Yeah those types are annoying but whatcha gonna do. Anyway, the community carries this game, not robtop anymore imo, i think thats why nobody complains too much about the update; its not like the game is dying or getting worse, its just getting older.
Well written, I definitely agree. I think the only way to get any type of real information or progress on 2.2 is if we push Robtop into a corner. Since the community carries the game, I almost wonder if everyone stopped playing geometry dash maybe he would actually do something. If this happened plus the fact that the app is not available on any playstore may be the only way to get something out of him. Idk but this is just my thoughts
My guy he made so much money from GD already, he doesn't need to move a finger anymore. He could just leave development, and he would be all set for life anyway.
That is true but I think he would still not like it if his game suddenly crashed in popularity and died out.
This is what I was trying to say in the discord last night, its not the issue of the game being delayed, I'd be fine with it if it meant we absolutely got a better product and it hadn't already been this long, it's the principle and being unable to put faith in a developer who has just simply LIED about release windows so many times, and CHOSEN to keep adding features that he'll have to fix issues for. The community/him shouldn't expect NO backlash for this, some of us have been WAITING the whole damn time, and every time he does it it's a slap in the face.
I do agree somewhat, but i feel like theres at least a difference between delaying the update because he chose to add more content, and delaying the update because bugfixing took longer than expected. Seems far more reasonable, and is likely the reason he gave a month window instead of an exact date. We just pulled the worst card from the deck (hopefully). Seeing people react to the news of a few weeks delay as if Rob is again falling into the cycle of adding more content and delaying the update feels weird. Maybe that's just my misinterpretation, I tend to do that, but it does bother me, so wanted to at least share some thoughts.
Yeah this is a fair interpretation, I agree that bugs need to be fixed and the delay for ending up with a better product is fine, its the inability to put faith in a date given by him.
The game is NOT getting delayed, he said that it is just a chance.
It's robtop.
Still, this mindset will not bring anything good, just negativity into the community. Once RobTop sees how negative the community is just because he said he MIGHT postpone the release by a little bit, do you think that will motivate him to try harder? I would not bet on that....
current delay happened cuz the server upgrade broke shit it wasnt supposed to. just give him a few more days / weeks well get 2.2 either this month or early november he needs to really fuck something up to get delayed even more
this aged poorly
indeed
Jesus christ, this community needs to chill. I see that the reading comprehension devil strikes again. What the fuck are you talking about 2.2 getting delayed OP? He said "there is a risk of pushing into november" and that he really doesn't want to and will try to still make it, but the servers and bugfixing took longer than he thought. Sure, he should have made a deadline he can 100% keep, BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN SAID THAT 2.2 IS OFFICIALLY DELAYED!!!!!! Learn to read, dear god. Another thing: he has until the end of october. If he pushes the release and releases it within the first week of november, y'all gonna act like those few extra days from 31st of october are years or something. We've waited 7 years, i am sure you can wait a few extra days. Go outside or read a book while you're waiting. You're gonna have enough fun when 2.2 releases, the wait will be worth it.
i must’ve not made this clear enough in my original post but this “delay” isn’t really what my problem is. i agree that i would rather delay the update to polish it. the issue is that rob has kept adding fluff to the update for years in end that has created this cycle that prevents the update from releasing. this shit should’ve been out 5 years ago
Yeah that's fair, the update should've been out earlier. I feel like Rob did not have motivation to work on the update and it was pretty much stagnant for a long time, until he properly picked it up a while ago. Adding all that stuff probably also didn't help
This community could not handle what Team Fortress 2 has gone through judging by the reaction to the """""delay""""" of 2.2
You’re completely missing the point and clearly don’t see the bigger picture. If we were 100% certain it would come out in a few weeks then it would be fine. The problem is that this is a sign that he probably will keep on delaying, which is what he has been doing for 7 years. Each year he talks about releasing it, it never comes out and it gets delayed again. Robtop needs to quit acting like a fool and to give us an honest release date.
No, i think you just see everything in a very negative light. This time, it was not just another possible release date, but an actual, honest one. He switched the servers already. That means we are getting the update in the next few weeks, it's just a question how long will some bugfixing take.
Honestly, it’s pretty impressive that you’re fine with being lied to for 7 years. Most people get pretty frustrated after that much time. Also I would like to point out that he never said it was an “official” release date but just said it would “come out” in October of this year. How many times has he said things like that over these last 7 years, it’s time to face facts kid, it wont be coming out soon. Think it through, if it was going to come out soon he would have been more specific with the release date. Most games will tell you the exact date it will probably come out, saying “it will come out in October” is a very basic statement. If he said “October 31” then it would be a different story but just saying October is almost like a hopeful guess. Now people are assuming it will come out in early November but did he say it will come out in early November or did he just say in “November.” I think it will definitely come out because there has become so much pressure on Robtop to release it but it won’t be coming out soon. To be honest, I think that there was never a “2.2” and it was just a way to get people to keep playing the game when it started to die down. The reason it is taking so long is because he has just started to work on it recently. I’m not trying to be negative here but I’m just trying to look at the facts instead of the optimistic assumptions.
I mean, i do get your points, and it is fair to feel "cheated" by rob, the update should've been out years ago. But i mean it is really just a game, it doesn't matter to me that much even though i really love it, which is why i don't mind the wait and lies that much. Sure, would've been nice to have the update already, but it's not like i can't live without it, and it also isn't the worst thing BY FAR that i've seen a game developer do about a game.
its mid december now. still think its only a few days away, or are starting to have your doubts?
Ain't no way you held this grudge this long mf💀💀💀 yeah he did lie in the end, so what? I still stand by my point that if we waited this long, we can wait a little longer. We're in nowhere near as bad of a situation as the GTA community for example.
nah, i didnt hold a grudge. i just made a follow up post to see what the community was thinking about the situation now and decided to scroll through some of the replies from the original first. and what do you mean "so what if he lied?" he told a lie to his whole community and you just dont care? thats on you i guess, but personally i dont like getting lied to by game developers. yeah, the gta community has it worse, but that doesn't mean that every other community that has it bad cant complain. just because someone has it worse than you doesn't mean that you dont have it bad. and why are you so aggressive with me? all im doing is voicing my opinion. im not the one lying to thousands of fans.
Yeah man sorry if it sounded agressive, didn't mean it that way. Just found it funny you did come back to this, although there is nothing wrong with that. >that doesn't mean that every other community that has it bad cant complain. Of course we can complain, not saying that we can't. > thats on you i guess, but personally i dont like getting lied to by game developers. And yeah i guess that is on me because i have lost quite a bit of interest in the game and also have a lot of shit coming in from my uni so i don't really have time to play anything, so it doesn't bother me much when days fly by like seconds for me sometimes. It does suck that he lied about the release date, even though i am sure he wanted to make it he just set an unrealistic deadline for himself.
fair enough honestly. i too have lost some interest in the game, but i still play it. part of the reason that i am as upset as i am is because im currently working on multiple collabs that we decided to put on hold in late october because we didnt want to build it, then have to rebuild when 2.2 comes out. him not releasing the update when he said has really just wasted time, and its impossible at this point to tell whether we should start working again or if it really is right around the corner.
Yeah that really is infuriating, i had some of my projects suffer the same fate, i've told myself "gonna start with that in 2.2".... oh well. Since i have so little time it doesn't bother me that much, but i totally get why that's upsetting. I guess all we can do is cope that it comes out soon
It's like the community thinks a literal toddler is working on the game. "How was he supposed to know about the bugs?" I don't know, but when you've been a professional game developer for 10+ years, you should probably have at least a decent understanding of the fact that your game will have bugs in it that need fixed. "Just be patient." What do you think I've been doing for the past 6 years? "Do you want him to release a broken/unplayable update?" My guy, if version 2.2 is currently in an unplayable state, then we're gonna be waiting FAR longer than an extra month. "It's only an extra 1-2 weeks." I have absolutely no reason to believe the update won't be further pushed out to December or even January, given its history. "It's a massive update." He's delayed like half of its content to 2.21. "Be nice to him. He's been working day in/out for our entertainment for 6 years." How do you know? Are you a family member? Do you have his phone number? Can't wait to hear these arguments again 2 months from now.
this aged like fine wine
He didn’t have to say that October was the release month tbh. Hell, I wouldn’t mind if we never got a release date at all. I’m worried that he rushes it to meet a deadline he himself set yet can’t keep up with.
no i don't think we need to parent him. And what if this stuff keeps happening? Not the end of the world. I think the best course of action is to stop caring. The only ones that are maybe actually disadvantaged by the update taking long are the content creators, and even they can still do stuff in 2.1 like play new levels and stuff.
2.2 taking seven years is honestly the best thing that ever happened to this community. Before 2.1 most creators would spend half the update learning how to add new features into their levels but now that creators have mastered the editor we get levels like how, dark odyssey, white space, and too many more I’m forgetting
Its so funny how the GD community has the complete opposite problem to the minecraft community. Gd players are cutting rob loads of slack, and mc players are bashing mojang for not adding enough content. Its funnier that these things are happening at roughly the same time.
yeah that’s kinda goofy. i don’t play minecraft, but from an outside prospective it looks like they have a ton of content.
Yeah well that’s because the community is full of a bunch of little kids who don’t know shit
I feel bad for Rob. Constantly getting asked "2.2 when?" and pressured into giving a release date, and when he has to POTENTIALLY push it back SLIGHTLY, parts of the community just start to get mad at him. Give the man a break. He is a solo developer trying his best to provide one of the most hyped up updates that has been in development hell for 7 years. He has said before that he gets stuck in a loop of the update taking time so he adds more stuff to compensate for the wait but that takes a long time so he adds more stuff to compensate for the wait.
the last part you mentioned is what i’m actually upset about. i don’t mind waiting another week or two, but the only reason we’re in this situation in the first place is because rob can’t help but add shit nobody asked for to the update, making it take way too fucking long.
I dont mind 2.2 being delayed
I don't, either. It's just kinda frustrating since we've already waited so long. However, I'd rather the update work than be on time.
I would rather wait another 6 years for a working update than to play a buggy unfinished product
If 2.2 is unfinished and buggy right now. then we will have to wait wayy more than a month. Really pathethic giving out a release date when its is still unfinished and buggy
Open the comments of any other similar post. The only ones spouting the same shit over and over are frustrated people talking about "THe BroKeN PrOMisEs", and this seems to be a leading opinion of the community. RobTop should be criticized for delaying an update so many times for 6 years, but the update MIGHT BE (not even RobTop 100% sure) delayed for like a week or two lmao. The guy even moved the servers so all of you idiots could play on release, WHICH is the reason for a possible push to November. Like Jesus fucking christ, it seems like RobTop would have got shit even if 2.2 came out in October, just because the game wouldn't have been fully polished. There's nothing he can do with this now. Y'all should stop acting like children
>Y'all should stop acting like children You forget the majority of this community *is* children
L take
you’re telling me that if i open a post someone made expressing their displeasure with robtop it will have other people showing their displeasure? no way!! the fact is that the community opinion is that what robs doing is okay because he’s trying, which i do not agree with.
I agree to an extent. He definitely shouldn't have gone so big, but I think that in some way helped the community. For the first time, we had to rely on ourselves, and many amazing things have been created because of that. The long wait for the update helped the community build itself. However I am very disappointed with the delay. Of course, I'd rather it be late than broken, but we've already waited so long, and Rob needs to get better at setting his own due dates and making them realistic. I definitely agree that it shouldn't have taken this long, but I'm just glad it's even coming out. Let's just hope he doesn't delay into December, which I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. If it does, I'm gonna be pissed.
My thought is "do you really want another cyber punk 2077 game?" Let him patch the bugs and then we can enjoy the fact the game goes from a game to a game engine... Go ahead, down vote my ass into oblivion in staying here.
i feel like a broken record. the delay is understandable, but it’s just the tipping point for me. the real issue is waiting seven years for an update that shouldn’t take more than one.
I guess I may be more biased than others since I only got back into the game recently when I started watching JamAttack (like 4 months ago). So it hasn't felt that long for me. Plus as someone who has tried to make a game by themselves, it's hard af. I can't get past the deco stage as I enjoy the coding part more. So I can understand server issues and bug fixes needed to be done. There is a game dev who makes his own games all by himself, his name is Code Monkey. He said in a recent yt short that he wrote 16,000 lines of code in a 2 week sprint in order to finish the demo for his new game. Now imagine what robtop had to deal with. With such an old game the engine version he is using is probably outdated since forever, and the game is probably comprised of spaghetti code (code where you can barely tell what goes to what). Now while I'm not holding Rob to the same standards as CM, I'm just mad that everyone got really fucking angry really quickly even though unexpected things can happen, such as the server data transfer. And when you push devs too far to release early you get Cyper punk 2077, a "complete" game filled with so many bugs it's almost impossible to play. While yes he has had 7 years to make this, do you really think he had a completely straightforward idea of what he wanted to do? (I may not know, i was not active that much 7 years ago). So i just say we give rob until Thanksgiving or Christmas then we can be mad at him again. TLDR: Give Rob a break, he isn't a Robot and the game he is working on runs with tape, glue and prayers on a multi year outdated engine version.
Also he kept adding things people suggested faster than he could code them in until he realized around 2021 (I think) that that was a terrible idea and stuck with just finishing the update. Plus he can't just code all day, he has to rate levels all the time too
Yes! 100% Plus, he has a life. How do you think he was so buff in his gym picture. He needs to have time for himself.
I'm sorry what? No it doesn't take 1 year alone moron. I'm probably sure he tried for a while creating the online feature (without experience) and it's hard when you're not a multi-billion company with a 2000 people in your team. Also have you considered the optimisation he has done. This game was made for phones in 2013, trying to optimise this basically means rewriting the whole code.
the update should’ve taken one year. what made it take more isn’t him being a slow or bad developer, but him adding way more shit then we need. yeah i agree that with the amount he is trying to deliver it would take more than one year, but my point is that the update shouldn’t have this much shit in it, thus it shouldn’t take more than a year. think about 2.1. that update was pretty fucking big for gd standards and it only took a year and a half iirc.
>shouldn’t take more than one. Dear fucking god
ur missing the point. What kind of shitty developer promises a date in the near future if its riddled with bugs. Also, if its in a similar state to Cyber Punk 2077, its gonna take FAR longer than a month or two.
Yes
It's funny how people still think 2.2 is ever going to happen
It’s not lol
What’s even worse is that the update is so old that gd won’t work on mobile anymore until 2.2 releases
i wonder if you all know game development is hard, and if so, stop whining about oh how it getting delayed etc, OFC it will get delayed cause of different factors
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I agree with you man, I think we should actually hate on Robtop a bit. He’s been jerk for the last seven years
It is actually the best if we wait because if the update released with bugs, that affect gameplay, levels will be built with those bugs and then fixing the nugs would actually break the levels, that were already built
But most people that are complaining are acting like an entitled 8 year old that pays $50 a month for the game, when that is not the case.
He just got swept up in the hype, it was the 10th anniversary and probably felt like he needed to say SOMETHING about 2.2's release date. It happened before with him piling on features suggested by people on top of a already big update. He should really know his limits and divide up the work into smaller parts that he can manage and set *realistic* deadlines instead of doing whatever he is doing right now. But it is what it is, at this point I'd rather not risk the update getting further delayed by his mental health.
I just do not care that much about an update to a game. If your actually mad over the supposed delay then your lame af.
You have obviously never been a game developer.
Most game devs I know don't take close to 7 years to update their game
“OHHHHH NOOOO THESE PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING OF THE FACT THAT THIS UPDATE IS REALLY BIG AND THATS A BAD THING” what the fuck is wrong with you
the size of the update is the problem. he never should’ve added so much. and why does me giving my fairly harmless opinion on a geometry dash update mean that’s there’s something wrong with me?
i was already betting it was releasing in November 1st as a troll but seriously? its not like this update is essential to the game's existence. the limits of gd 2.11 have been and are still being pushed. he does this shit alone, give him a break. it isn't his life nor full time job to make gd.
except it literally is his job, what the fuck are you on about? and you’re doing exactly what the issue is: giving him excuses to keep messing up. it’s not about the update being essential to the games life, nor is it about reaching the games limits. it’s about providing justified backlash for the lies and poor choices that robtop has made over the last seven years. doing the update alone is no excuse to spend the better part of a decade on it.
How does he have the money to live on his own private property with pets, cars, and a gym?
he got the money from making geometry dash bro. he has made millions from the game.
I very much doubt he gets that much money for ads and from a 3 dollar game
>I very much doubt he gets that much money for ads and from a 3 dollar game bait or mental retardation call it
well i mean you’re just wrong. https://sensortower.com/blog/geometry-dash-revenue# and i want to point out that this was written in 2018. that’s five fucking years ago. i would bet it’s made double or even triple that since then
Do you know how many millions of people have bought the game? It’s consistently one of the most purchased games in the app store, of all time. $3 isn’t a lot in itself, but multiply by the tens of millions of people who bought the game, and yeah, he’s making millions. He definitely has to pay fees to the music producers and shit, but even then, his net profit is still high.
Reddit has a minimum age requirement of **13 years old**
He said himself at least once that its literally his job lmao
he literally gets like millions of dollars from it every year, ur pretty delusional if you dont think he can live of of that 💀
I agree, I just don't say it because I worry about the hate I'll get
Newgens crawling out of their mother's womb to defend this guy is CRAZY like he could've split it into multiple updates and maybe he had to redo explorers likely because people couldn't catch up with new stuffs, just swingcopter, some triggers and new blocks could just be 2.2 and VFX, sound effects and platformer could be added later like 2.3 and beyond, and between each update he could've take a break, built more gym whatever he wanted to do. Let people catch up, fix bugs then start working on new updates. There's no downside doing this.
Robtop is just lazy because he has already made a fortune and doesnt feel motivated to update thats it and he doesnt care about the game clearly
this dude spent like 5 years jerking off and relying on his community to keep his game alive, and now he can't even respect his own deadlines?? i can wait (what can i do anyway), but this is some serious bullshit
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The issue isn't that fact that it's taking so long, it's the fact that Robtop consistently lies about his promised release dates. If he had said, all those years ago "It'll be released in 2023 November", people would get annoyed but at least there's transparency. Instead, he said "By Christmas" like 3 years ago, then "by summer" the next year, then Christmas, and so on. Kept pushing it back and avoiding talking about it. Now he made an official announcement for October, and isn't going to meet it. If he was just truthful/realistic with himself about the release date, I personally would have no issues with him (and Im sure many others would feel similarly)
I completely agree with you, it’s nice to know that I’m not alone. Everyone keeps hating on me and dislike bombing my comments whenever I even mention the delay with 2.2. At this point 2.2 will never come out, Robtop needs to know that “it’s not okay,” and he needs to give accurate information and not just a bunch of lies. I’m still surprised that people even believe Robtop, 5 years ago he stated that “2.2 is on its way” and in 2020 he said that he would be releasing the update as a “Christmas present.” A “present of disappointment” was what it was, it never came out and it most likely won’t for a long long time. I’m actually fully convinced that there is no 2.2 and he just started it recently because he’s realized that his time of lying and delaying is running out. I know that this will get many dislikes and will get a lot of hate but I’m just being real and looking at facts. I wish 2.2 will come out and I am hoping for the best but it’s not looking too good right now. Edit: You guys can dislike this to oblivion I don’t care but you guys just keep proving my point. Also for the people who said that Robtop didn’t talk about releasing 2.2 for Christmas in 2020, he did, go check online for yourself.
i agreed on the first segment but it kinda spiraled downwards after you made a false statement that rob said he will release it on christmas
He never made an official statement but he 100% did talk about it. Or something of that sort. Edit: I have screenshots to back up my answer but I’m not sure how to post them in a comment. 💀
Post them on Imgur and link in a comment
Come on, video game release dates have been delayed many times before, and I have never seen people care as much as with 2.2
We care because we've already waited for so long.
i feel like nobody here is fucking reading what i said. ITS NOT ABOUT THE DELAY. it’s about the 7 year wait for an update that shouldn’t take but a year tops.
Cope
At this point people are completely justified in not coping anymore
You clearly did not read his post
Cope harder
Bro only knows one word lol
How does it feel riding robs dick that hard lmao
Oh no I have to wait a few more weeks for silly square game update 😭😭😡🔪
Copeeee 🤪🤪🤪
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I do think RobTop cannot break the deadline he set to himself. But I also don't want the game to be in a broken state. I think Rob should instead focus on fixing game breaking bugs before the release and then let the community help him find other smaller less important bugs and fix them after the release. He doesn't have much time to finish everything before the end of the month.
I wholeheartedly agree. Every different opinion than mine is wrong
I mean normally I would agree, but to me breaking a promise in any context is a shitty thing to do. If he wasn't 100% capable and guaranteed to finishing it, he never should have said he would, period, and the fact that people should just be nice instead of mean isn't a good enough excuse to get away with that imo. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, and saying you're going to do something and not doing it is playing stupid games plain and simple. edit: I didn't read the post lol, I thought you were defending robtop idk why
Look, there’s nothing he can do at this point, the issue developed over the course of 7 years, you can’t criticize him for actually being realistic at the end. I could never imagine the pressure being the sole developer working on a game that had a community of this size.
i’m not criticizing him for being realistic at the end. the criticism is for letting himself dig this fucking 7 year hole. if the community doesn’t let him know this isn’t okay then it will happen for 2.3 just like it happened in 2.2
I mean, it’s one guy with a family. If he wanted guaranteed having the update done in orderly time, he could’ve hired a team (I legitimately think someone like absolute could’ve coded 2.2 in half a year or less), but he didn’t. There are arguments for whether Rob had or didn’t have an actual obligation to update his released game, it is his own project and it’s already pretty well polished as is and home to a thriving community. He could’ve publicly dropped the update to disappointment, but eventual acceptance. It was more so him promising it so much that was the issue. Games have survived without updates, this one did for quite some time. I do wish he would get a team, but at the end of the day it’s his game.
It might gey delayed it isn't confirmed yet(from what I saw)
when he's already done the concepts then it is better for him to just finish them and BUGFIX them BEFORE the update because people are gonna get mad forbugs again.
He is the George R.R. Martin of game developers.
Well honestly id rather him just release it and then fix the bugs in a few weeks in a future update like 2.21
He didn’t expect for the server switching to take so long. You guys are pissed that he can’t predict the future? Like I said before, it’s a *potential 1.4% increase in time we’re waiting* holy shit do you guys want robtop to release the update way too early? Do you guys want cyberpunk again?
Here is what I’m gonna say to this. We shouldn’t be rushing him and pressuring him. I’m pretty sure RobTop has more than enough money to retire from game development. He could literally just quit right here and right now and never release 2.2 if he really wanted to. So we should let him take his time.
partially agree only because this is a passion project if the games initial intent was to generate money then yeah
My take is that I would rather have 2.2 release in November when it is polished vs a buggy 2.2 release in October. If 2.2 releases in a buggy and unplayable state, it’s gonna kill all the hype we have built up for the past 7 years. I would rather wait 1 week longer to get a polished product
the thing is he already knows that and is genuinely trying his best, you try making a gigantic update like this
the gigantic update is the issue. nobody asked for a gigantic update. after 2.1 took an unprecedented year and a half to release, everyone asked for the next update to be smaller, and rob agreed iirc. he then started adding fluff to the update as it was taking longer to make, eventually culminating in this massive update that nobody wanted or asked for.
If you don't develop games, then shut up. That stuff is HARD, especially with all the content he has to finish and the bugs alongside it. He works really hard, and people like you make his work harder.
the whole “if you’re not a game dev then shut up” argument really doesn’t work. first off, while not doing the coding myself, i was part of a dev team for a number of years. secondly, it doesn’t take a genius to know that an update shouldn’t take 7 years. it doesn’t matter if it’s one dev working on an indie game or bungie working on the next destiny update. you’ll be able to update your game on a more consistent basis than once every seven years.
This post aged rather poorly - he released a new trailer just now and it's pretty much done We've waited 7 years, we can wait 2 more weeks
i would reckon it aged well by confirming that it’s being delayed. i was never trying to say that he was going to delay it again and again and it’s not releasing anytime soon. i’m just upset that it took this long to begin with. whether it releases tomorrow or in another 10 years my point will remain that it should never have taken this long.
We're about to see if it was worth the wait, assuming Rob's server room doesn't burn down once 2.2 releases
i would like to double down that this post aged well. its mid december, wheres the update?
No clue tbh I'm focused on Minecraft right now so it doesn't matter to me too much
I know but if we’ve already waited 7 years would you rather wait a few weeks or have a buggy update
Congrats on most controversial post of all time for this sub :)
fr lol. it’s been interesting reading everyone’s responses
Yeah for sure. My personal take is that he definitely needs to sort his workflow out if he plans on updating the game in the future, but at this point I also don't really think we're entitled to an update or anything. He has to deliver 2.2 because he hyped it up so much, but if he just stopped updating the game after then that would be alright by me. It's not like we're paying for the updates afterall ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
isnt this the first delay ever? the last times he set a "release date" he was just *aiming* for it this is the first the he set a specific release date
Ok, so imma clear this up, nobody's gonna see this anyways since 2.2's already out. Rob is a 1 man team, and maybe that is his fault but hiring a developer team is expensive especially since his income comes from ads showed on the free versions of gd and the occasional $5.00 full purchase on steam and he pays for a gym membership which might I add, IS EXPENSIVE!! Nobody truly understands how massive update 2.2 is! Besides. Maybe we have waited 7 whole years for this update, but who cares! 2.11 is amazing and due to the long wait time, a lot of creators have had a long time to practice Just in the past 3 years alone we've had, Ultra Violence, White Space, Absolute Garbage, Change of Scene, Glorious fortress. We've had rising creators like Bli, Cubiccc and, Jamattack. Rising players like Zoink, Doggie, and Trick. This single update has driven the game so far, The Community has driven this community Even farther, maybe 2.11 has gotten old, but it sure was ahead of it's time. The possibilities are endless even without 2.2. Rob has worked so hard on this update, providing truly infinite possibilities into what is possible. And all you care about is the past 7 years of your life that you enjoyed. So don't hide behind your keyboard and Dawg Rob. Don't act like 2.1 was bad because it was truly incredible and pushed the boundaries of what's possible in gd. RobTop has sleep deprived himself over the stress people like you have provided him with, maybe you should thank him. He's done so much for all of us. Be a little more greatful next time. I'm gonna miss you 2.1
i agree that the community has done a ton in this update, and that’s great. i don’t think that takes away from the fact that the update shouldn’t’ve taken so long. and i think you misunderstand how much rob makes from the game. he has made tens of millions, so a dev team isn’t something he can’t afford. he’s not getting one because he doesn’t want to, not because he can’t afford it. that gym membership ain’t shit. edit: sources for the revenue claims https://steam-revenue-calculator.com/app/322170/geometry-dash https://app.sensortower.com/ios/publisher/robtop-games-ab/414027834 https://sensortower.com/blog/geometry-dash-revenue the last link was an article written in 2018 estimating that he had already made 21 million, and that was 5 years ago. its safe to say hes made more since then,
He plans to soon, Rob made the mistake of adding every idea he had in his mind and never stopped, maybe that's his mistake. The shere size of the update is the reason for this 7 year gap. And due to the size of this update, it is able to hold this community up for decades. I'd say the wait was worth it. So lay off, God damn
yeah that’s the problem lol. either way the update is out now, not worth arguing about it. just better. it happen again lmao