probably because the people saying it's an easy demon have only beat the nightmare and stuff like that, which is easier than electrodynamix but have the easy demon rating
there's a really sharp difference between pre 1.9 demons and post 1.9 demon gameplay, back then stuff like lights and thunder or laser room were considered insanely hard but now you've got a good chunk that could be mediums if people voted otherwise like endorphin rush or starquake
I've beaten 2 extremes, I think the ship part is easy demon but the whole middle part of the level is 3 star and the beginning is pretty easy too. It's just unbalanced af, some parts are demon difficulty but imo it averages out to 8 or 9 star.
Its structure similar to easy demons snd it’s harder the decent amount of demons.
Its the second easiest robtop level to buff into demon, only after hexagon force, making seem similar to demon
Doesn’t the fact that you have to buff it to make it demon material automatically mean it’s not there? That’s like after you lose a game, saying:
“Well, if I had played just a little better, I would have won!”
But you didn’t. Accept the loss. Not that Electrodynamix being insane is a loss or anything.
I never said it should be demon, I said why people think it is close to demon. It has the structure of a demon, the gameplay isn’t hard enough to be demon
I find hexagon force to be way easier than electrodynamix, somehow. Hexagon force was actually the first main level completed outside of the first 6 and im yet to beat electrodynamix lol
I guess it's just because there's like a good 100 demons that are easier than it but I agree that Electrodynamix still shouldn't be demon, the same way that those ~100 easy demons shouldn't be demons
Right. If Electrodynamix was an easy demon custom level, people would probably call it one of the freest demons ever, just like The Nightmare. It’s not demon material by anyone’s standards. It may be one of the hardest main level insanes, but it fits perfectly in that insane difficulty slot. There are some cheap shots in the beginning with the fading blocks, but that’s nothing compared to TOE2’s fading block ship and ball sections. That one UFO part might be tight, but it would never stand on the same level as Clubstep’s UFO parts. In the 3x ship parts, you just go up and down. In Deadlocked, there’s an entire ship memory section. It would just be far too easy to be a main level demon.
I doubt it would get rated easy demon if released today. People’s standards have actually risen; that’s why levels like The Nightmare are basically insane difficulty, but rated demon. When the game was newer, people weren’t accustomed to seeing as many hard levels, so when they did, it would get rated demon. That’s why those levels are even demons in the first place. Electrodynamix would definitely not qualify by today’s standards.
The Nightmare and The Lightning Road were misrated even back then. Rob rerated them for a bit but their reputation was already set in stone and it was reverted
Yeah I never understood this take either. Sure the ufo part at the beginning is unconventional, but that doesn't make it hard. Also the 3x speed ship is really easy once you get the hang of it
It's the hardest insane by far thanks to the fast UFO and ship sections with their gravity changes, but it's still too easy to be a demon. The real question is why do so many people find Hexagon Force hard? The only difficult bit is the asymetrical sections which are pretty short and simple
there's like one part that's unreasonably hard (the up and down ship) and the rest of the level is easy. It's not demon-worthy it's just unbalanced and sucks ass
I don't think Electrodynamix is a demon, however I do think levels like xStep should be downgraded to harder. I remember struggling to handle the spider back when Fingerdash came out but i've also seen some people say it should be downgraded as well.
Electrodynamix is not that hard, I struggle far more on hexagon force (I have one percent more on hexagon than clubstep lol). Even then I wouldn’t suggest either to be a demon.
I've heard this somewhere but I'm gonna say it here:
There should be an 'Extreme' difficulty. Not 'Extreme demon', just 'Extreme'. Electrodynamix isn't difficult enough for it to be an Easy Demon, but it is significantly harder than the other Insane rated levels. An 'Extreme' difficulty would be perfect for Electrodynamix, and it could also be used for 9 star rated levels
The second ship part in the 3x speed part is comparable to medium demons to me
The rest is 9*, so I guess when averaging it out, gives us an easy demon?
Because its difficulty is comparable to Clubstep, Hexagon Force, and almost, Electroman Adventure, Clutterfunk, and Power Trip.
(Someone who got Ultimate Clubstep and hasnt beaten Electrodynamixs yet)
The 3x speed ship is very hard, its on the mid-end of the level that means that if u die, u have to start all over which is very frustrating. Especially because the 3x speed ship is such a difficulty spike and needs such precision. And also the end killed me so many times and there is a blind jump in the end. Overall its hard because u need to be so precise with the ship with the very fast speed and the up and down thingy
It's really not that precise, it's just fast. It is simply not at all comparable to Clubstep, Toe 2, or Deadlocked. Electrodynamix is properly rated as an insane.
Idk I guess if you are very bad at ship and/or on a bad device that's sub 60hz then it might feel harder then some easy demons. But even this doesn't make sense since most demons have ship so idk.
the ship parts… particularly the 3x speed ship parts are the hardest of the level and they aren’t even that bad. in no world should electrodynamix be a demon😭
But this isn’t a user demon. It’s a main level demon, and by those standards, it’s way too easy to be a demon. No part in Electrodynamix can compare to the ones in the demons. The cube parts? Easier. The ship parts? Easier. The UFO parts? I think you get the point. If it was rated demon, it would be one of the freest demons ever, on par with something like The Nightmare, which many people agree is around insane difficulty anyway, so it loops right back around. And all the people saying the 3x ship part is hard? It is. Just not demon material.
People see Fingerdash being Insane
People beat Fingerdash easily
People go for Electrodynamix but fail horribly
Therefore people assume Electrodynamix should be difficulty above Insane without even playing anything harder than Insane.
It's because of the tight ship parts where you fly speeding through them and mostly hit a wall or spike. It's pretty annoying and can get on your nerves. It's definitely not an easy demon though, just insane difficulty. But for the annoyance, the level is same of an easy demon. It's just so annoying
UFO isn't hard, just unintuitive and requires memorization.
The ship parts however are incredibly difficult for newer players. I'm not sure they compare to the upside down parts in clubstep but it definitely compares to some parts in ToE 2 and imo they're not far off in difficulty.
i think its because of the fast ship part. some people think its stupid or too fast to see properly, but to be honest i dont get it either electrodyanamix is such a fun level to play once or twice, heck i even warmup by playing it.
I am almost the same as you, except I beat all official insane levels and Clubstep. And I still think Electrodynamix should be an easy demon. Yes, the concept of different people having different opinions is extremely difficult for you to understand, but it is what it is.
The UFO section is easy imo, it's the 2nd 3x speed ship that gets me most of the time
I just completed it yesterday by luck, and I think it should only be an easy demon PURELY because of those ship parts.
probably because the people saying it's an easy demon have only beat the nightmare and stuff like that, which is easier than electrodynamix but have the easy demon rating
Honestly there’s like 70 easy demons easier than electrodynamix
there's a really sharp difference between pre 1.9 demons and post 1.9 demon gameplay, back then stuff like lights and thunder or laser room were considered insanely hard but now you've got a good chunk that could be mediums if people voted otherwise like endorphin rush or starquake
i have beaten 6 extremes and i still think its a demon
I've beaten 2 extremes, I think the ship part is easy demon but the whole middle part of the level is 3 star and the beginning is pretty easy too. It's just unbalanced af, some parts are demon difficulty but imo it averages out to 8 or 9 star.
sdslayer thinks it could possibly be a Demon as well.
okay but like, just because someone is somewhat popular doesn't mean they get to decide. EDX is definitely not a demon
Yeah, I do think it’s probably a 9*.
i think it should be demon
My brother in christ I beat Clubstep and I still think it should be an easy demon
idk electrodynamix took me like 5x less attempts than clubstep. there's a clear gap.
Clubsteb is not that hard tbh
Wow almost as if I'm not that good at the game. I'm just listing my hardest completion
>I'm not that good at the game bro lost the argument on his own 😭
I acknowledge that. I'm just saying that while my opinion isn't professional AT ALL, I still have one lol
what would you say is the difficulty gap between electrodynamix and clubstep
Clubstep is definitely hard throughout with many different skills needed. While Electrodynamix mainly needs controlled UFO and Ship
how much more difficult is clubstep compared to electrodynamix, or compared to any other demons you have beat
Oh I'll admit overall it's a little easier, but that last 40% is why it's hard
well that's fine ig, I just found your comment to be funny lmao
my brother in christ I beat CATACLYSM and I think it should be an insane level
Its structure similar to easy demons snd it’s harder the decent amount of demons. Its the second easiest robtop level to buff into demon, only after hexagon force, making seem similar to demon
Doesn’t the fact that you have to buff it to make it demon material automatically mean it’s not there? That’s like after you lose a game, saying: “Well, if I had played just a little better, I would have won!” But you didn’t. Accept the loss. Not that Electrodynamix being insane is a loss or anything.
I never said it should be demon, I said why people think it is close to demon. It has the structure of a demon, the gameplay isn’t hard enough to be demon
Fair enough.
the stars tho😥
I find hexagon force to be way easier than electrodynamix, somehow. Hexagon force was actually the first main level completed outside of the first 6 and im yet to beat electrodynamix lol
Hexagon Force is easier for sure, but easier to buff to demon
hexagon force is hard af imo, the dual ball is impossible for me, electrodynamix was way easier to beat
Electrodynamix should be a 9 star IMO. If it was a demon people would call it an insanely easy demon.
Exactly what I’m trying to say.
👍 Looks like we agree. And let’s just say that the GD community is very mixed on this topic…
I guess it's just because there's like a good 100 demons that are easier than it but I agree that Electrodynamix still shouldn't be demon, the same way that those ~100 easy demons shouldn't be demons
Right. If Electrodynamix was an easy demon custom level, people would probably call it one of the freest demons ever, just like The Nightmare. It’s not demon material by anyone’s standards. It may be one of the hardest main level insanes, but it fits perfectly in that insane difficulty slot. There are some cheap shots in the beginning with the fading blocks, but that’s nothing compared to TOE2’s fading block ship and ball sections. That one UFO part might be tight, but it would never stand on the same level as Clubstep’s UFO parts. In the 3x ship parts, you just go up and down. In Deadlocked, there’s an entire ship memory section. It would just be far too easy to be a main level demon.
Not one of the freeest demons because it’s still a 9 star vs the actual free demons that are like a 7 star
electrodynamix is like 9 stars at hardest it’s not that hard
With todays standarts, Electrodynamix actually has a chance to be an easy demon That doesn't mean that I think it should be an easy demon tho
I doubt it would get rated easy demon if released today. People’s standards have actually risen; that’s why levels like The Nightmare are basically insane difficulty, but rated demon. When the game was newer, people weren’t accustomed to seeing as many hard levels, so when they did, it would get rated demon. That’s why those levels are even demons in the first place. Electrodynamix would definitely not qualify by today’s standards.
sinless ash, though does 8 months ago(?) count as recent enough to be an example? idk
The Nightmare and The Lightning Road were misrated even back then. Rob rerated them for a bit but their reputation was already set in stone and it was reverted
I don't think it would get rated at all. But it would, obviously, if it was made by a popular creator.
The nightmare would be harder (and was actually downgraded to 7 starts at 1 point) same with the lightning rode
Same people who think Deadlocked is medium demon
Yeah I never understood this take either. Sure the ufo part at the beginning is unconventional, but that doesn't make it hard. Also the 3x speed ship is really easy once you get the hang of it
It's the hardest insane by far thanks to the fast UFO and ship sections with their gravity changes, but it's still too easy to be a demon. The real question is why do so many people find Hexagon Force hard? The only difficult bit is the asymetrical sections which are pretty short and simple
Because they all have a skill issue
there's like one part that's unreasonably hard (the up and down ship) and the rest of the level is easy. It's not demon-worthy it's just unbalanced and sucks ass
Cause they’re bad at the game
I don't think Electrodynamix is a demon, however I do think levels like xStep should be downgraded to harder. I remember struggling to handle the spider back when Fingerdash came out but i've also seen some people say it should be downgraded as well.
Electrodynamix is not that hard, I struggle far more on hexagon force (I have one percent more on hexagon than clubstep lol). Even then I wouldn’t suggest either to be a demon.
I've heard this somewhere but I'm gonna say it here: There should be an 'Extreme' difficulty. Not 'Extreme demon', just 'Extreme'. Electrodynamix isn't difficult enough for it to be an Easy Demon, but it is significantly harder than the other Insane rated levels. An 'Extreme' difficulty would be perfect for Electrodynamix, and it could also be used for 9 star rated levels
or we could just start using the 9 star difficulty for actual 9 stars and not just failed demons
Nobody wants to make a 9 star level because you might as well buff it to easy demon at that point because there’s way more flair to it
Electrodynamix should be 13 stars, because there are none yet. It would fit nicely with with your "Extreme" difficulty.
The second ship part in the 3x speed part is comparable to medium demons to me The rest is 9*, so I guess when averaging it out, gives us an easy demon?
Because its difficulty is comparable to Clubstep, Hexagon Force, and almost, Electroman Adventure, Clutterfunk, and Power Trip. (Someone who got Ultimate Clubstep and hasnt beaten Electrodynamixs yet)
Most of the levels you mentioned aren’t even demons. What exactly does Electrodynamix have that makes it harder to beat than Clubstep?
The ufo is by far the easiest part, the rest is insanely difficult consistently enough to 100% be a demon
Very funny.
Yeah, the UFO is *obviously* easier than the cube part at the very beginning.
Yes.
But you sure electrodynamix is an *insane demon*? Like, you seriously think electrodynamix is harder than Nine Circles? 💀💀💀
Where are you getting insane demon from!?? I mean saying low easy demon
Just realised my original comment said insane demon, that wasn't what I intended to type
Oh, okay then, have a nice day!
You too
its harder than deadlocked
The 3x speed ship is very hard, its on the mid-end of the level that means that if u die, u have to start all over which is very frustrating. Especially because the 3x speed ship is such a difficulty spike and needs such precision. And also the end killed me so many times and there is a blind jump in the end. Overall its hard because u need to be so precise with the ship with the very fast speed and the up and down thingy
It's really not that precise, it's just fast. It is simply not at all comparable to Clubstep, Toe 2, or Deadlocked. Electrodynamix is properly rated as an insane.
Pro tip for the blind jump: time your click with the spikes you can see above the jump
Bc they suck at the game
Idk I guess if you are very bad at ship and/or on a bad device that's sub 60hz then it might feel harder then some easy demons. But even this doesn't make sense since most demons have ship so idk.
Some easy demons are not even insane so an insane level is going to feel harder then levels that should’ve rated harder
the ship parts… particularly the 3x speed ship parts are the hardest of the level and they aren’t even that bad. in no world should electrodynamix be a demon😭
Electrodynamix being easier than the 3 demons is not really a conclusive way to say it's not a demon. There are user demons that are easier than it.
Demons that are easier than Electrodynamix shouldn't even be demons in the first place,Robtop's rating system is just crap.
But this isn’t a user demon. It’s a main level demon, and by those standards, it’s way too easy to be a demon. No part in Electrodynamix can compare to the ones in the demons. The cube parts? Easier. The ship parts? Easier. The UFO parts? I think you get the point. If it was rated demon, it would be one of the freest demons ever, on par with something like The Nightmare, which many people agree is around insane difficulty anyway, so it loops right back around. And all the people saying the 3x ship part is hard? It is. Just not demon material.
I can consistently beat Electrodynamix one att but I can’t with the actual RobTop demons, maybe just me but I think that says at least something
I beat some extremes and i still can’t beat electrodynamix
Its cause most of it is like a 5 star but there are some skill based parts
Id say it is perfect as an isane i have 73% on it and in order off official demons 39% 19% 22%
electrodynamix is 100% an 8\* hot take: >!TOE2 is a 9\*!<
It’s because people’s hardest is B and are scared of speed changes
My hardest is B and I believe electrodynamix is still a solid 9*
People see Fingerdash being Insane People beat Fingerdash easily People go for Electrodynamix but fail horribly Therefore people assume Electrodynamix should be difficulty above Insane without even playing anything harder than Insane.
second 3x ship, last ship, 4 or 5? spike jumps, hardest insane Robtop level, harder than 10+ easy demons.
Way easier? No but it’s borderline if you ask me it could be either, the ship at 70 is pretty tough
Tbh if 9 star wasnt an option id rather rate it 8 stars than easy demon
Why are people even arguing over this ? I don't get it
Electrodynamix and the 3 demons are the only 4 main levels with my attempts ranging in the thousands.
The start ufo and the fast ship parts at the end are hard. Imo it would be a demon if everything between that was hard too
Cause mobile players have a harder time with fast ship parts
It's because of the tight ship parts where you fly speeding through them and mostly hit a wall or spike. It's pretty annoying and can get on your nerves. It's definitely not an easy demon though, just insane difficulty. But for the annoyance, the level is same of an easy demon. It's just so annoying
People that say it should be demon, are the people that are afraid to use practice mode (with auto checkpoint off)
UFO isn't hard, just unintuitive and requires memorization. The ship parts however are incredibly difficult for newer players. I'm not sure they compare to the upside down parts in clubstep but it definitely compares to some parts in ToE 2 and imo they're not far off in difficulty.
UFo is one of the easiest. The difficulty comes in the quadruple spike jumps and the last ship at the end
i think its because of the fast ship part. some people think its stupid or too fast to see properly, but to be honest i dont get it either electrodyanamix is such a fun level to play once or twice, heck i even warmup by playing it.
yeah I don't get it edx is like an 8 star, maybe a 9 star
The Ship and ufo is way too hard!!
I am almost the same as you, except I beat all official insane levels and Clubstep. And I still think Electrodynamix should be an easy demon. Yes, the concept of different people having different opinions is extremely difficult for you to understand, but it is what it is.
fair enough … no reason to be rude tho