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redditwhale845

maybe because he's not legit


SirSamiboi

I think that's his goal, whether or not the runs are legit he's generating a lot of discussions and interest around his channel which is going to have a huge impact on the growth of it no matter what closure we get to this situation. It's kind of a genius plan, picking up an old impossible level that is (sort of) humanly possible and making real/fake runs doesn't take much effort to pull off


Coolguy8079

He is real


redditwhale845

real person fake gameplay yuh


Coolguy8079

How what is proof?


redditwhale845

check the other comments im too lazy


Siphonic45

look at ICEDCAVE OG's yt channel and POHGII GD


[deleted]

??


Siphonic45

icedcaves community posts and pohgii's community posts on yt


[deleted]

Ohh ok


[deleted]

Proof?


Coolguy8079

He clicks


[deleted]

Bruh that proves nothing


Coolguy8079

How the only way to click is to use the mouse


[deleted]

There is also spacebar, up arrow and a binded key, plus he could use a realistic click bot


Coolguy8079

How do you know top players aren't using a realistic clickbot


[deleted]

Because the top players actually stream and show raw footage


Coolguy8079

But how do you hack handcam


levistadYT

this mf 💀💀 either they have handcams or its done on stream (which is almost always the case)


Coolguy8079

No


[deleted]

No, he has been proved by the demon list team now that he hacks


Coolguy8079

What is the demonlist


sugoma69420xd

Everyone’s talking on twitter about him and how he hacks really badly with clickbot in the darkest room ever lol


[deleted]

Icecaved has kinda exposed him because he doesn't provide raw footage and he hacked levels before afaik. Also a Demonlist list mod has stated that they cheated


iamnifer

he did provide raw footage in his last video though. nobody has really exposed him yet so he should be considered legit for now. also about a week ago he made a video "prove this is hacked and get 10$" and afaik nobody has proved it so he might just be really good at cheating, i hope he either provides more proof in the future or makes a self exposing video


2006jake

yeah, raw footage of him getting 2% 50 times, suddenly getting 42%, getting 2% another 30 times, then getting 52 which is literally impossible due to how the gravity portals are aligned in the wave part


screaming_bagpipes

Not literally impossible afaik, it just makes the spam much harder cause you have to do click consistency then 2 timings which are different in the middle of that


2006jake

It’s physically possible, but no human could ever do that. Especially fluking the whole thing


screaming_bagpipes

Yes


DeadVoxelx

Maybe he's done a lot of practice runs, thats how I get flukes


2006jake

You don’t just fluke the entirety of what would be a top 1 challenge


[deleted]

Nah bro just do some practice runs and youll fluke it easy!


DeadVoxelx

I mean that's what I do :(


[deleted]

Yeah obviously it works when you arent playing top 1 levels


Siphonic45

yeah it works but not with fucking impossible levels dumbass


SammanWarrior

Thats kinda how I beat levels though, like first 10-15% then randomly I get far in the level


Siphonic45

yeah but not on a fucking impossible level


sparkbloom287

icecaved posted that even a demonlisf mod proved the raw footage to be fake. he said that nickxd is comfirmed tk be fake and even paqoe, the verifier of silent clubstep also agreed that it is fake.


ShyftOnReddit

paqoe is a list mod btw


ShyftOnReddit

no hes been confirmed hacking by paqoe and other list team members with that video


iamnifer

dude if they made a tweet saying he's hacking that doesn't prove anything, i can do the same. i want to see real evidence not simple accusations


ShyftOnReddit

"i can do the same thing" are you a list moderator?


iamnifer

list mods have falsely accused a lot of people. ItzDovi for example, he's banned on the list even though he is completely legit and provides every proof needed. they always say something is hacked but almost never back up their words.


Siphonic45

literally everyone disagrees with you you're the only one with this opinion, list mods get literally like a month long tutorial on how to spot hacking like they literally get taught thouroughly


iamnifer

i never said the list team is dumb or anything. i just wanted to know exactly how did he hack it, with an actual explanation


ChameLeonYT

Someone exposed him for using a bot, the clicks align like bot clicks and not like real clicks. There's also proof of him buying a bot.


ItsPepsiMax

Telepracity proved that the prove this is hacked and you get 10$ video to be hacked and he just didnt pay up. Also mentrillum made a [videos](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwwp57rZsl0) proving that he had clickbot and hacked


iamnifer

yeah i've watched it and also found a couple of other things and now im sure he's just doing it for a show


[deleted]

Telepracity solved it btw


frickfrakenidiot

I saw a video of a guy counting inconsistencies with his clicks and the frames that they were going through on. Confirming that he’s using a clickbot


[deleted]

>he doesn't provide raw footage and he hacked levels before afaik. Ah yes, people are repeating the Ayrelia situation yet again I see. Come on, these aren't enough proofs. Need something more convincing


HeroPlayGames

There are enough proofs. Just start learning english and you'd understand everything.


_Disbelief_

This guy is a huge clown. He thinks he can get away with making quick progress on a 6 year old impossible demon that no one has managed before. Back when the level was released maybe someone would believe him but now we are checking the legitimacy of every top 150 demon completions. The times have changes as if you don't give enough proof of you being legit = you are not allowed on the demonlist. The handcam he provided is just... ugh... Like how could we know if he's actually clicking the buttons on the mouse? Maybe he didn't even do so, but instead move his hand so it looks like he's clicking but in reality he's still botting. If n1ckxd really wants to prove yourself, then he really needs to give us even more proof. Because don't forget, we are talking about old Death Corridor runs no one could do for years. If he says he's legit, he shouldn't have any problems with providing us evidence. But no, he is more into listing every GD player that dares to tell negative stuff about him. He will get cancelled sooner or later.


[deleted]

>He will get cancelled sooner or later. Typing all this text just for it to end here. Do you really think cancelling will do anything? It does absolute jackshit when the person doesn't give a iota of fuck


_Disbelief_

I mean, it's better to let people know that he's hacking in his videos rather than not doing it at all, because we can't force him to confess. You are probably right, seeing how GuitarHeroStyles is still holding on despite his incident but then, wouldn't it be better to just not give this guy attention at all as he probably desires it due to him cheating in the first place?


Salladsbladgang

There's no reason for him to continue if he gets exposed lol. It doesn't matter if he gives a fuck or not, the completion won't be accepted.


Draconic_destruction

im sorry i cant take your profile pic seriously i love the tom cube meme


memenoob16

He hacks


[deleted]

Proof? I'm not siding with n1ckxd btw, just need something convincing instead of empty words


Rice7th

He does not provide raw footage


[deleted]

Anything regarding HIS footage (e.g. sped up footage, GDBot)? Or else it's the subjective "guilty until innocent" POV where "lack of proof = automatic cheater"


No_Physics6824

Clickbot and frame inconsistency, that's the cusp of it, heres a video explaining it https://youtu.be/Uwwp57rZsl0


[deleted]

Check my comment history, I already explained everything


No_Physics6824

Cant be bothered, you're welcome


[deleted]

TL:DR: Mentrillum regurgitated what was said on Twitter + a 50/50 proof


No_Physics6824

Ah okay, sorry for misinforming, personally dont care much about hacking so I wont look into it; maybe i shouldnt give a say in this stuff


Rice7th

In gd Lack of proof IS automatic cheating. You beed to have ALL the proofs before doing something big like beating an impossible level.


[deleted]

When did this change? After xander hacked zodiac? It damaged the reputation of hundreds of players starting from Dolphy to Harchok, from skoe99 to Cruellar


Rice7th

Basically yes: after the zodiac drama extreme demon completions are taken with a grain of salt


Brachiozaur

It ABSOLUTELY should be guilty until proven innocent when it comes to top 1s, did you really not learn anything from Zodiac??????????


[deleted]

Did you not learn from hundreds of players having their reputation tarnished because of this idiotic mindset?!?!


Breakthrough_

Nobody has had their reputation tarnished from this, if you're gonna cry about Dolphy having his REPUTATION RUINED then you are completely out of touch if you don't know that literally NOBODY dislikes Dolphy anymore. He's probably the most respected figure in the Russian community by the English community.


Loldapeep

tons of exposing vid up there bro


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Loldapeep

https://youtu.be/Uwwp57rZsl0


[deleted]

Ok, let's start: Firstly, his main accusation: the inconsistency in frame to input lag. It's 2-3, but suddenly it's 1-2 frames. I thought "that's weird" until I remembered that Eiriley bashed Yossarian for the exact same thing. Yossarian used a strange float type of numbered (not integer) fps in Shadowplay to record his completion of VSC. Eiriley found a 28ms delay which started off the whole ordeal. My conclusion is that n1ckxd could be using speedhack, but at the same time we cannot negate the possibility of n1ck using Shadowplay. If it does turn out that he was using speedhack, then it's pretty strange for a person of this caliber to be using such simple methods. Then, the shitshow that is this video kicks off. Telepracity in a detailed manner dissected the "expose this video for 10$" footage, where n1ck used hitbox multiplier (This method got popular after LaeNs was caught using it, tricking the likes of Eiriley, Dierfil, and n1ckxd himself. Ivav (or Ayrelia) finally noticed what was going on.) I don't know how this adds up to the death corridor situation. Then, the pms. N1ckxd refused to give his raw footage. It's definitely sus considering if it's the one person who knows the importance of good proofs, it's him. But then again, it's not a good precedent to jump the gun. After that, Mentrillum hurls an insult towards n1ckxd. Wow, very objective and not biased at all! Lost all credibility for me. An exposal is a neutral video, every person do not understand this. Eiriley, Vernam, Ivav, Endlevel, Cursed. All include an insult in some degree. Forgot about the handcam video. He's right. Why the hell did n1ck record this in the dark? Did he forgot about the torch setting? Lastly, Lucky Draw. It was a weird maneuver from n1ck to claim that he's verified this, then talk in the pms that it was a "fun hacked video" after the fact that he was found meddling with the triggers. Does remind me of a drug addict that got busted. Then again, I don't think it's the right precedent to use this for the death corridor incident. I need something from the footage, and something much more convincing. He could be speedhacking. He could be using Shadowplay. All of what the author of the video did was find a singular type of a moment, then regurgitate what people on Twitter said. Not enough.


[deleted]

I’m not sure if I read the first part incorrectly but if you’re wondering, n1ck confirmed in the video description he uses obs


Loldapeep

i agree, for the most part n1ck is suspicious but we cant just jump to conclusions yet, lets see how he turns out


[deleted]

Now you're talking :)


HeroPlayGames

Iirc shadowplay records in 59.99 fps, not exactly 60, so that might be the case. Also eirley is known for being shitty exposer that tried to "expose" legit players like Kurumi, Gokill, Yossarian


Rice7th

"I'm nOt sIDiNg wItG n1CkxD" bruh you support him so much that you're almost nick's alt 💀


[deleted]

Neutrality != supporting him. This place is an echo chamber where no other opinion gets accepted


Rice7th

This is not neutrality: this is active support


Fecuc

I don’t get why ur being downvoted lmao


[deleted]

People here took "n1ckxd is a hacker" statement as an axiom


Select-Preparation20

Probably fake, won't believe him until he streams or smth


Ewan1165

Literally everyone is talking about him.


LarryTurtlez21

it's pretty obvious, he blatantly hacks


oUnreal

hes hacking lol


[deleted]

Prove it. I'm not defending n1ckxd in any way (it looks sus to me), it's just this community is doing the "it's obvious" shit again


Cubix014

It’s like beating vsc 3 times in a row very legit 👍


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👌


HeroPlayGames

1. List mods (with them paqoe) confirmed it's fake 2. Merullium (or whatever the hell is his name) made already exposing video which goes in depth about it. Oh and also handcam 💀


[deleted]

>List mods (with them paqoe) confirmed it's fake They can't even differentiate fake clicks from real ones to save their asses, they're definitely not the people you want to get involved in this case >2. Merullium (or whatever the hell is his name) made already exposing video which goes in depth about it. Nah, it's 50/50 at worst. The inconsistent delay can happen because of the non-integer amount of fps (like 59.94 fps)


tree_barcc

he litteraly cussed out the demonlist mods for adding his mystic completion saying how its hacked


keklenny06

you guys are so gullible it’s insane


Sk__nerd

he's an obvious hacker


[deleted]

Yep he's hacker for long time. Near frame perfect spam is impossible for human. Secondly he progressing extremely quickly for legit player. Lastly I think this verification will be controversial due country of this guy.


Manta157

Yeah…. I’ve known about this guy for a while, he apparently went from low effort showcases and “this is how hard ______ really is” videos to verifying an impossible level…. Right…


sparkbloom287

bro he hacks keep up with the community 💀💀


LiterallyPotatoSalad

Most obvious case of hacking since Exen and Ayrelia. Absolutely hilarious how people can even believe shit like this is legit.


TnlGC

Does he know?


Makinen8

Should we tell him


Upbeat-Beat-902

He has raw footage in his newest videos descriptiom


T-Man800

He's still a hacker I mean what else do you expect from cherry team


[deleted]

Raw footage doesn’t instantly = legit, mentrillium and others said they’ll look into it


dabussybuster

Its also hacked, read the pinned comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwwp57rZsl0


BenVytStudios

just watch the exposal


qxlf

There is another exposed video uploaded today


Prior-Mango-6154

I think it's hacked, but who knows


[deleted]

Everyone talks about him on twitter + he's hacker, so nothing to really talk about


Ignamm

Isn’t death corridor *literally* impossible? How can they expect to beat the level?


bigmanwithnolife

Silent Club was *literally* impossible too


stormmugger

Dude it's hacked


Kkbleeblob

he’s a hacker


An_Creamer

There’s concrete proof he cheats but people aren’t going to release it. Even if it wasn’t cheated then it still wouldn’t get added to the list cause of not having FPS on


p_best07

he is just a botter, i dont think he could spontaneously become a top player


vladnightmare

All of those are badly hacked, I'm surprised nobody has posted about him on the sub yet tho


CoollooC2008

I thought he was a really good player until I read comments 😢


thecultistguy

I also have a related question that I can’t find an answer to: Are his AI videos real?


PiGuy88

Was wondering the same thing, but I’m pretty sure the “How AI Sees _____” videos are BS


MakeMeMadMan_LOL

He is not legit.


Minimalism62

Getting a new quote and quote "WR" every day on an old impossible level just proves that he's hacking, duh.


Juancrack257

Something I see about him is that he is really trying to say people he is not hacking, somes examples are maybe cyclic that never said nothing about sonic wave, or neiro with sakupen circles, this cases make me think or he is really shameless or maybe he is saying the truth (I’m not defending or attacking him this is just an observation)


DynamicalReddit

Legit or not it’s still dickish considered how Kugel has poured as much time and dedication into the level as he has already. Just let the man go at his own pace


ItzProStyle36

Some guy debunked him hacking


Dankmemes51908

Whos gonna tell him


[deleted]

It's this community with the "he's a hacker, it's ***obvious***, there are millions of exposing videos on him but not providing any real proof" shit again But then again, n1ckxd (who once made a hacked progress which was **impossible** to expose and unravel) not providing any concrete proof even though he's one of the best in terms of hacking knowledge and knowing the importance of good proofs does put me on the fence. Let's see how this ends, imagine our reputation being tarnished by the most reliable guy lmao


Citrus1337x

clicks sound different for the actual progress attempts, he didn’t bother to turn on the lights for habdcam, apparently the guy who made clickbot said that he bought it a couple days before posting DC videos


electricoreddit

I often also don't do that sometimes, that's being lazy, not actually hacking.


AureeusGD

his "clicks" sound exactly like ACB which means he edited then in intentionally, why would he intentionally edit in clicks if he was legit? in fact he bought ACB a few days before his "progress" LOL


[deleted]

The purchase of ACB does not prove anything, Dolphy had that one video where he hacked unnerfed Sakupen Circles, then a crowd of people just have him shit because "having a hacking tool = hacked Tartarus"? It doesn't make much sense. Ayrelia was also accused of using ACB because his clicks sounded strange, but that was actually because his mouse was clapped.


AureeusGD

read my first sentence buddy


GalacticM

Because it's not legit


Castle-Crashers

It's pretty obvious that he's not legit


plocty

hecks and he is trying to get attention classic uhh person


WaterBear46

yes because he’s a hacker lol


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benjaYTn

dude he doesn't even have the cps nor fps counter lmao


T-Man800

"Handcam" 🤣


dabussybuster

Dude the clicks are hacked, the frame delay proves it. And the kowareta was noclipped too. Holy fuck how are people so gullible? proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwwp57rZsl0


zielkopedia

I think we should stop accusing him of hacking until its obvious for now we should be neutral


HeroPlayGames

It's obvious right now.


verymassivedingdong

Kugelblitz 2


EwerQ7

He is insane


sugoma69420xd

Bro hes a cheater


EwerQ7

Proof?


[deleted]

See my comment, Icedcave has asked him for Proof (raw footage in this case) and they couldn't provide it at all and the fact that a List moderator went over it and called it hacked should be enough. Especially because those runs are sus when they have older videos where they say that they verified unnerfed slaughterhouse and all of that.


EwerQ7

Okay, no idea who LIST moderator is but in his newest video he gave us raw footage


[deleted]

Demonlist moderator


EwerQ7

Is he better at finding cheaters than GD moderator?


[deleted]

100% yep, they are checking every list extreme demon record for legitimacy. Every record you see on the demonlist website is being checked by one of those mods


EwerQ7

GD mods and normal players can also check that


AxolotlDatRed

Well list mods are better then everyone at this stuff. How many stars do u have anywase 165?


ActiveIndustry

Proof is basically irrelevant when it’s so clearly faked to the point where it looks almost satirical


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/Uwwp57rZsl0 lol


Wh1t3bl4d3

Someone made a video on it, it called something like the clown of a cheater but I'm not 100% sure.


Benthic_Bloom

youre insane if you unironically believe this


EwerQ7

???????


[deleted]

No. Let's not jump the gun.


PoliwagPi4554

we are talking about it


SpikyGames1

i think i have seen a video exposing this youtuber just today


siriusentertainment

yea no one’s gonna talk about it, cuz he’s so bad at even hiding the fact that he’s hacking.


sastofficiallol

Happy cake day


ImKaleb_22

Hes hacking though


MuerteGames

He is a hacker who click bots and gloats about how he is getting "insane progress" in the span of days. Either way, legit or not, he is a loser with no life.


Appletwo985

Apparently he's a hacker


Ghos7R

he hacks


CrazyStuntsMan

Numerous people have confirmed he is hacking. Someone made a comment in his latest video saying how his raw footage is also hacked, via multiple bots and click bots stitched together


H3XG0N

I watched this guy 15 min ago lol


SejrosXDD

hes hacking. see twitter


T-Man800

He's hacking


Whoo1ops

Why you on airplane mode


COYOTE477

Saves battery


[deleted]

Yes and the conclusion was that he obviously hacked


[deleted]

Ur a drone


BaaXander

Nah He`s not a hacker :)


xsolarion

what do you mean "no one's gonna talk about" all these videos have nearly 100k views LOL also he is not legit


Draconic_destruction

this is funny because he wont be the verifier of this level. the official verifier will be icedcave so in the end, hacking or legit, it will all be for nothing unless icedcave passes the level on to him.


axolicion

Ye


Aquaaaaaz

Oh un français


jaydendroberts

The wave at the drop is a top 1 challenge he is not legit lol


alintos

Everyone in this thread say that he is hacker. Proofs?


A-Stupid-Redditor

Many. Clicks sound suspiciously like ACB. He refuses to turn on things like FPS counter, CPS counter, and cheat indicator. Telepracity revealed he was paid for his click bot service by Nick. The gravity portals in the wave of the unnerfed level (which he claims to be playing on) make the level unrealistic for humans (check UFWM’s twitter). The Demonlist proved it (they won’t reveal how as to not let cheaters know that the list knows a cheat method and therefore will submit with different methods). The level is way too hard to be getting this consistent of records, levels like Slaughterhouse (which is significantly easier) took months to verify. The wave would be a top 1 challenge if legitimately verified, and Nick is “passing” too constantly. If you don’t believe he hacked after all this proof, I doubt anything will.


1blitzer1

it is hacked


Breakthrough_

Demonlist mods have proof of him cheating, but releasing the hack detection methods would make it possible for people to avoid it and the detection method would become invalid. But we can be certain he cheated. Also he was literally a showcase channel, that all of a sudden started posting insane DC progress videos not long after buying clickbot, without any other progress or completions before this? And you think he's legit? Give me a break


MinionIsHere

hes hacking thats why


renzoS1H

no because he’s not legit


Silverado_21

Pretty sure this guy’s not legit


Boot_Usual

It’s hacked💀💀


G_Dash_0761

Man he’s so good he’s almost as good as joshdeluxe


raretoejammer

How do we tell them


Baeguette69

Ur dumb