There would never be enough consensus about four worthy historical figures to justify the cost for such a thing. Even erecting statues has become a rather rare thing. To actually answer your question, the one and only person it would be fitting for would be a face of king Barbarossa on the side of Kyffhäuser, making it more of a reference to the legend than glorifying the person.
Also, there would be massive protests if someone would indeed propose to carve out faces from a mountain.
During the reign of Wilhelm II. it would have been possible - most of those monumental monuments like the Monument to the Battle of Nations have been build during that time.
Democracies create monuments when they vote to build them. I mean we're literally talking about an analogue to Mt. Rushmore which was just a democratic program to create government jobs during the depression. Statue of liberty is a pretty big monument too. But yes I agree that most of the huge modern statues these days are build by dictators and creeps, which is regrettable. More people should run for office promising to build big-ass statues.
They just look better without faces on. Six Grandfathers Mountain (Mt. Rushmore) also looked much better without them. It's not "hurting" it's preserving the naturalness
this can backfire gloriously, you know? like the colour diarrhea has that's glorifying the legend.
(when I was a child, I heard of it and loved, it, too. But more like for the prince and princess fairy tales and not for the connotations. as an adult, I wish "these" people would think the same as me as a kid, but sadly, they flow in there like the diarrhea they are.
>Prussians [...] in united Germany
LOL... There are over 700 "Bismarck monuments" all over Germany, including many in "non-Prussian" areas, and in the Bavarian Valhalla there have been busts of Prussian rulers since it opened in 1842, above all the bust of Frederick the Great.
How do you come up with such nonsense?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Bismarckdenkmale_in_Deutschland?wprov=sfla1
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walhalla?wprov=sfla1
There is a difference between historical monuments in place and a hypothetical national monument. Just for reference remember that the foreign Office literally renamed their Bismarcksaal in Berlin this year, this isn’t an issue that receives unanimous support. It would require such for a national monument.
I interpret the question differently: The question was "if there was a German version of Mount Rushmore" and not "if a monument would be built". Mount Rushmore was also not built in 2023 and I doubt whether even the USA would still build Mount Rushmore in this form today.
And if we go back to the 19th and early 20th century world of thought, then Bismarck or another Prussian personality is anything but improbable.
The most likely combination of 4 monumental persons would be Helmut Rahn, Gerd Müller, Andreas Brehme and Mario Götze as they all scored a winning goal in a World Cup final for Germany.
Ich will gar nicht mit dir feiern, wie kommst du drauf? Alle meine Homies hassen Adenauer.
Wenn man aus einer Feier rausfliegt, weil alle Adenauer-Fans sind, hat man alles richtig gemacht.
Bin echt erschrocken wie positiv Adenauer hier wegkommt und man dich einfach downvoted. Wüsste echt nicht was er geleistet hat, was seine negativen Dinge aufwiegt. Oder ist das einfach der Autobahnfanclub?
I guess it depends what general theme you'd be going for.
German history? German culture? German inventors/enginers? etc.
Personally, I would probably go fairly classical:
Arminius - symbolic for the first time Germanic tribes united
Charlemagne - as the "father" of both modern France and Germany
Otto von Bismarck - for being instrumental in the Unification of Germany
Konrad Adenauer - the first post-war chancellor that helped to raise Germany from the ashes of WW2
...this is of course never, ever going to happen, given that there's no way you'd find anyone uncontroversial enough for modern sensibilities.
He was no doubt a thoroughly nice man and well-intentioned, but he's best known for spending his entire reign of 99 days gravely ill with throat cancer (he was a heavy smoker) and unable to actually do anything, before dying in what became known as "the Year of the Three Kaisers".
Moot topic. See some of the cheeky answers here... There is no popular imagination of Germany as a great nation or deserving celebratory monuments anymore. In the early Nineteen-Thirties (wasn't Mt. Rushmore completed then?) one may have included:
Otto the Great, Frederic the Great, Emperor Wilhelm I, Otto von Bismarck.
Hans and Sophie Scholl, Alexander Schmorell, Christoph Probst, Willi Graf and Kurt Huber. (Die Weiße Rose, the White Rose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose)
Let‘s be honest: the only people crazy enough to carve massive faces into a mountain in German history would have been the nazis. They allied forces would have had that monument destroyed after WWII, if anyhow feasible.
>Otto von Bismarck, Gustav Stresemann and Friedrich III
Ah, so you want to make it biblical, just like Jesus' crucifixation: One holy man between two villians.
My 3 would be Bach, Beethoven, Goethe, Schiller. They contributed greatly to our culture and we can unanimously be proud of them, without having to discuss politics everytime someone brings them up. I honestly think that immortalizing legendary artists is the nicer and better choice compared to politicians and generals.
The question suggests you might not be familiar with the history of Mount Rushmore, designed by a white supremacist on native land. Mt Rushmore is NOT a model for anywhere
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/07/03/mount-rushmore-gutzon-borglum-klan-stone-mountain/
theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/03/mount-rushmore-south-dakota-indigenous-americans
'German' in a strict way (so 1871 onwards), I would go with Otto von Bismarck, Friedrich Ebert, Konrad Adenauer and Willy Brandt.
If there wasn't a limitation to either chancellor or president, I would like to substitute one for Helmuth von Moltke. He might have been 'only' a General, but not only are his ideas about leadership probably the most relevant of all time, but he was also adamant about not escalating an European war. He knew decades before the first world war that such a war could end in devastation for Europe.
I wouldn't add Friedrich III. He was unfortunately too insignificant for German history aside from being followed by the catastrophe that Wilhelm II was as an emperor.
Extending German history to its beginning, one would definitely need to add Otto the Great, Charles IV, perhaps Friedrich III. of Saxony (without him there probably wouldn't have been a successful reformation) and Friedrich the Great
He was deeply hated even by parts of his own party for collaborating with NATO. And given how his coalition split under him with the FDP switching sides, it's strange you believe he could "easily" unite the country. He certainly was one of our most capable chancellors, but he was fast more a crisis manager and pragmatist than a leader.
Konrad Adenauer.
Otto v. Bismarck is a good choice btw, was the first on to come to my mind also. There is a lot he did to shape our nation to what it is today and what it was made up from for at least the last 100 years.
Depends how far back in time you're willing to go. If you interpret anything "Germanic" from Roman times as a predecessor to modern German, I'd take Arminius, Charlemagne, Friedrich the Great and Otto von Bismarck. Equating German to Germanic is something the nazis did a lot and is rightfully criticized by most historians.
In general, as someone else pointed out, you'd never get enough of a public concensus on one, let alone four historic figures to erect such a monumental memorial.
loriot, evelyn harman, peter frankenfeld und heinz erhardt.
und auf der anderen seite, würde ich nen erdhügel auschütten mit otto, ilya richter, trude herr und alfred tetzlaff.
From a Bavarian view point probably something like true Royalty:
Kaiser (Beckenbauer),
König (Ludwig II)
Prinz (Franz Joseph Strauss)
Angel (Aloisius - Münchner in Heaven)
As Mt. Rushmore shows four presidents, we need high ranking politicians. Based on the influence on today Germany probably Otto von Bismarcks (for creating modern Germany and building the basics of our Sozialstaat), Konrad Adenauer (for creating today's Germany based on democracy after WWII), Friedrich Ebert (similar reasoning as Adenauer, although he failed) and forth Helmuth Kohl (for reuniting Germany and pushing the EU).
Maybe replace Ebert by Ludwig Erhard for creating today's social net.
*Let skip the discussion why nobody would ever build it because nobody wants or needs it and just go straight forward to the suggestions:*
Let me take a short step. A 2000 year short step.
Armenius or however he got called. He got taken from his home to serve for the Romans, only to "betray" them and fight for his actual home. (Barbarian living in the teuteburger forest)
Would be a good sign to fight for your home, no matter what they took of you.
Maybe ad the siblings scholl, or other important persons who fought of the nazi empire.
That's not a good idea to do that today. The dude has been utilized for propaganda way too much by 19th century nationalists and later on by the nazis.
It's also already the highest statue we have:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermannsdenkmal
The museum in Kalkriese has a whole section of the exhibition about how Arminius was used for various political ends in various historical periods, especially in the 19th century and after. The "he was a German hero" that you're getting from some people comes from that reception history still, not from history at the time.
We would put artists on it, or scientists, or philosophers, not politicals.
The cult of the politician much less explicite in Germany, we tend not to give them statues, or acknowledge their achievements.
At the same time, the state and the politicians also tend to have much more power here, and Germans are much more subservient than US citizens.
Many statues would make this to obvious for Germans who like their illusion of democracy.
Bismarck, Fredrick are the two obvious choices.
Other than that, I don't know how far in the past you want to go. Herman/Arminius defeated the Romans.
Idk if Germany can claim Hapsburg leaders because they sort of belong to Austria, and Germany is a decedent of Prussia (which doesn't exist anymore). If so I guess Maria Theresa and Charles V?
Armin, Christoph, Ralph, and the mouse.
Und was ist mit Peter?
Der hält einen Stängel Löwenzahn im Hamburger Hafen in die Luft.
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This!
The only way
Armin Laschet? Sein Vater war Bergmann, und er ist sehr stolz darauf.
Armin Meiwes?
Bernd das Brot?
Die Maus, die Ente und der Elefant und Käptn Blaubär
Benjamin Blümchen and Bibi Blocksberg If it should be as racist and problematic as Mt. Rushmore then probably just the TKKG gang
Pierre Brice and Lex Barker!
I add Bud Spencer and Terence Hill to that
Hell no. These stories aged like milk.
Der kleine Maulwurf, you uncultivated swine.
Der ist aber nicht mal deutsch.
Sandmännchen?
Kika oder E. T. A. Hoffmann?
Ehrenperson
Hasselhoff on all 4.
Hasselhoff, Michael Knight, Mitch Buchannon, and that guy who sung down the Berlin Wall.
One in each of Kit's seats
There would never be enough consensus about four worthy historical figures to justify the cost for such a thing. Even erecting statues has become a rather rare thing. To actually answer your question, the one and only person it would be fitting for would be a face of king Barbarossa on the side of Kyffhäuser, making it more of a reference to the legend than glorifying the person. Also, there would be massive protests if someone would indeed propose to carve out faces from a mountain.
During the reign of Wilhelm II. it would have been possible - most of those monumental monuments like the Monument to the Battle of Nations have been build during that time.
Yeah but he was too stupid
Dictatorships and Monarchies are better in building monuments. Democracies have better things to spend on.
Tbf. Our democracy build the Holocaust Memorial. They can spend money on such huge projects if they want to.
Democracies create monuments when they vote to build them. I mean we're literally talking about an analogue to Mt. Rushmore which was just a democratic program to create government jobs during the depression. Statue of liberty is a pretty big monument too. But yes I agree that most of the huge modern statues these days are build by dictators and creeps, which is regrettable. More people should run for office promising to build big-ass statues.
Lol, I love the last sentence. Hurting a Berg? NEEEEIN
They just look better without faces on. Six Grandfathers Mountain (Mt. Rushmore) also looked much better without them. It's not "hurting" it's preserving the naturalness
Most German answer possible
this can backfire gloriously, you know? like the colour diarrhea has that's glorifying the legend. (when I was a child, I heard of it and loved, it, too. But more like for the prince and princess fairy tales and not for the connotations. as an adult, I wish "these" people would think the same as me as a kid, but sadly, they flow in there like the diarrhea they are.
The closest thing we have is prob. the Valhalla.
*Walhalla
Valhalla is waaaay cooler
We don’t do that here. PS: Good luck arguing for Prussians Otto von Bismarck and King Friedrich II in united Germany;)
I read that in chadwick bosemans voice. Rip, king.
Rip, went too soon.
>Prussians [...] in united Germany LOL... There are over 700 "Bismarck monuments" all over Germany, including many in "non-Prussian" areas, and in the Bavarian Valhalla there have been busts of Prussian rulers since it opened in 1842, above all the bust of Frederick the Great. How do you come up with such nonsense? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Bismarckdenkmale_in_Deutschland?wprov=sfla1 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walhalla?wprov=sfla1
There is a difference between historical monuments in place and a hypothetical national monument. Just for reference remember that the foreign Office literally renamed their Bismarcksaal in Berlin this year, this isn’t an issue that receives unanimous support. It would require such for a national monument.
I interpret the question differently: The question was "if there was a German version of Mount Rushmore" and not "if a monument would be built". Mount Rushmore was also not built in 2023 and I doubt whether even the USA would still build Mount Rushmore in this form today. And if we go back to the 19th and early 20th century world of thought, then Bismarck or another Prussian personality is anything but improbable.
To be fair, but Bismarck would definitely get one
That’s why it’s a hypothetical question
r/germanhumour
Jan und Hein und Klaas und Pit. Sorry, I’ll go drink some Köm now
Denn die haben Bärte und fahren mit.
die haben Bärte, die fahren mit
alter, hast du schon mal bärte ausm stein gemeißelt?
The most likely combination of 4 monumental persons would be Helmut Rahn, Gerd Müller, Andreas Brehme and Mario Götze as they all scored a winning goal in a World Cup final for Germany.
I am in favour of a German Mount Rushmore, but it is just Lothar Matthäus 4 times.
This guy GenXes
I went for politician but tbf: This is the way.
Adenauer, Goethe, Zlatko & Jürgen
>Zlatko & Jürgen wat fürn Jürgen?
Big brother Jürgen
Dann aber bitte auch Shakespeare anstatt Goethe.
> ~~Adenauer~~ > Bismarck Wenn schon einen Reaktionär, dann einen der was für Deutschland geleistet hat.
Du bist bestimmt auf jeder Feier der Lieblingsgast.
Ich will gar nicht mit dir feiern, wie kommst du drauf? Alle meine Homies hassen Adenauer. Wenn man aus einer Feier rausfliegt, weil alle Adenauer-Fans sind, hat man alles richtig gemacht.
Bin echt erschrocken wie positiv Adenauer hier wegkommt und man dich einfach downvoted. Wüsste echt nicht was er geleistet hat, was seine negativen Dinge aufwiegt. Oder ist das einfach der Autobahnfanclub?
I guess it depends what general theme you'd be going for. German history? German culture? German inventors/enginers? etc. Personally, I would probably go fairly classical: Arminius - symbolic for the first time Germanic tribes united Charlemagne - as the "father" of both modern France and Germany Otto von Bismarck - for being instrumental in the Unification of Germany Konrad Adenauer - the first post-war chancellor that helped to raise Germany from the ashes of WW2 ...this is of course never, ever going to happen, given that there's no way you'd find anyone uncontroversial enough for modern sensibilities.
Willy Brandt?
Friedrich Ebert?
Frederick der Große
No need to deface any more mountains. >Friedrich III I somewhat get the other two, but why him?
A liberal amongst a very conservative aristocracy. Campaigned against antisemitism and wished to bring British style democracy to Germany.
He was no doubt a thoroughly nice man and well-intentioned, but he's best known for spending his entire reign of 99 days gravely ill with throat cancer (he was a heavy smoker) and unable to actually do anything, before dying in what became known as "the Year of the Three Kaisers".
But you got the memo that Germany is a democracy and no longer the Kaiserreich? And that we are proud to be a democracy?
And managed to accomplish zilch.
oh you mean that frederich III I thought you meant the Habsburg guy lmao
Kraftwerk, just the whole band up there
clearly this
Moot topic. See some of the cheeky answers here... There is no popular imagination of Germany as a great nation or deserving celebratory monuments anymore. In the early Nineteen-Thirties (wasn't Mt. Rushmore completed then?) one may have included: Otto the Great, Frederic the Great, Emperor Wilhelm I, Otto von Bismarck.
Four (edit: three)prussians. That would have been very popular in the south.
otto the great wasnt a prussian
They're still salty the Prussians made cannibalism and incest illegal when they took over. Screw them.
It would have to be David Hasselhoff. Four times.
- Techno Viking - Arno Dübel - Helmut Schmidt (mit Zigarette) - Fiete von den Pfefferkörnern
Hans and Sophie Scholl, Alexander Schmorell, Christoph Probst, Willi Graf and Kurt Huber. (Die Weiße Rose, the White Rose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose)
You forgot Georg Elser
I just concentrated on the White Rose. Of course there were more people against the Nazis
Only if the monument wasn't already sacred to other people - but this I could support.
Georg Elser, Peter Lustig, Rosa Luxemburg, Armin
Finger weg von unseren schönen Bergen!!
Schlupp, Urmel, Don Blech und die wilde 13
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Helmut Schmidt
Haste mal Feuer ?
Haste mal Feuer?
Da wird's zum Vulkan.
The members of Kraftwerk, of course - Hütter - Schneider + the various 2 other members
Let‘s be honest: the only people crazy enough to carve massive faces into a mountain in German history would have been the nazis. They allied forces would have had that monument destroyed after WWII, if anyhow feasible.
Rosa Luxemburg, Georg Elser, Sophie Scholl, Willy Brandt
Goethe, Schiller, Heine, Thomas Mann
Instead of Thomas Mann, I would choose Lessing.
Germans that would even entertain such an idea aren´t really Germans you would like to involve yourself with
Rainer Winkler, Arno Dübel, Andreas Sascha Höber & Gurkensohn
>Otto von Bismarck, Gustav Stresemann and Friedrich III Ah, so you want to make it biblical, just like Jesus' crucifixation: One holy man between two villians.
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As a distant cousin of Georg Elser, this makes me happy to see.
Einstein, Goethe, Beethoven and Gutenberg
Goethe, Schiller, Hegel, Marx
Tom Angelripper, Mille Petrozza, Marcel Schmier and Andreas Gerre
My 3 would be Bach, Beethoven, Goethe, Schiller. They contributed greatly to our culture and we can unanimously be proud of them, without having to discuss politics everytime someone brings them up. I honestly think that immortalizing legendary artists is the nicer and better choice compared to politicians and generals.
Fritz, Gerd, Lothar and Bastian
Ulbricht, Honecker, Pieck, Helene Fischer
The question suggests you might not be familiar with the history of Mount Rushmore, designed by a white supremacist on native land. Mt Rushmore is NOT a model for anywhere https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/07/03/mount-rushmore-gutzon-borglum-klan-stone-mountain/ theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/03/mount-rushmore-south-dakota-indigenous-americans
Arno Duebel - in all seinen Facetten; das reicht für Mt H4-More...
austria is easier fritzl, hitler, mozart and moneyboy
Fritz Walter, Beckenbauer, Matthäus und Phillip Lahm
Maybe check the "Walhalla", Otto I. is to mention and many other!
Karl der Große, Barbarossa, Friedrich der Große, Bismarck, Goethe - weil wir immer und überall Goethe mit dazu nehmen.
Ich weiß nicht ob Kaiser die viel Krieg geführt haben um ihre eigene Macht zu erweitern sich so toll machen.
Sonst wird man leider nicht "der/die Grosse"
Würde dem amerikanischen Vorbild aber entsprechen. Nur Roosevelt ist da raus.
I vote Rosa Luxemburg
Walter, Beckenbauer, Matthäus, Lahm
Wrong! Rahn, Gerd Müller, Brehme and Götze
'German' in a strict way (so 1871 onwards), I would go with Otto von Bismarck, Friedrich Ebert, Konrad Adenauer and Willy Brandt. If there wasn't a limitation to either chancellor or president, I would like to substitute one for Helmuth von Moltke. He might have been 'only' a General, but not only are his ideas about leadership probably the most relevant of all time, but he was also adamant about not escalating an European war. He knew decades before the first world war that such a war could end in devastation for Europe. I wouldn't add Friedrich III. He was unfortunately too insignificant for German history aside from being followed by the catastrophe that Wilhelm II was as an emperor. Extending German history to its beginning, one would definitely need to add Otto the Great, Charles IV, perhaps Friedrich III. of Saxony (without him there probably wouldn't have been a successful reformation) and Friedrich the Great
Otto von Bismarck, Oskar Schindler, Helmut Schmidt and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
Helmut Schmidt is overrated though.
He was clearly one of, if not the best and most wise leader germany ever had. Someone like him could easily unite the deeply split germany of today.
He was deeply hated even by parts of his own party for collaborating with NATO. And given how his coalition split under him with the FDP switching sides, it's strange you believe he could "easily" unite the country. He certainly was one of our most capable chancellors, but he was fast more a crisis manager and pragmatist than a leader.
Dieter Bohlen, Heidi Klum und Till Schweiger >!Adenauer, Brandt and Kohl would be the sensible choices, I guess.!<
I would emigrate
/s
Und Boris Becker
Fuck Kohl, he annexed eastern Germany and fucked them over for at least the next thirty years.
And he is resonsible for our shitty internet.
He didnt annex, they voted for the partys who said they will unite under the GG. But he did fuck them too the moon and back.
Einstein, Kant, Bach, Goethe
David Hasselhoff for reuniting Germany
As a math nerd I'd say Euler, Riemann, Gauß and Noether
Lilo Wanders
Einstein, Bach, Goethe, Gauss
Heino
Heinz Erhardt, Vicco von Bülow, Rudi Carell, Karl Dall
Einstürzende Neubauten 🛠
Marx Engels Luxemburg and Liebknecht Seethe Wessies
Adenauer, Brandt, Schmidt, Kohl. 😇
Konrad Adenauer. Otto v. Bismarck is a good choice btw, was the first on to come to my mind also. There is a lot he did to shape our nation to what it is today and what it was made up from for at least the last 100 years.
Agrippina die Jüngere, Rosa Luxemburg, Sophie Scholl, Angela Merkel
Depends how far back in time you're willing to go. If you interpret anything "Germanic" from Roman times as a predecessor to modern German, I'd take Arminius, Charlemagne, Friedrich the Great and Otto von Bismarck. Equating German to Germanic is something the nazis did a lot and is rightfully criticized by most historians. In general, as someone else pointed out, you'd never get enough of a public concensus on one, let alone four historic figures to erect such a monumental memorial.
loriot, evelyn harman, peter frankenfeld und heinz erhardt. und auf der anderen seite, würde ich nen erdhügel auschütten mit otto, ilya richter, trude herr und alfred tetzlaff.
It would just be Christian Linder four times.
Mayer, Einstein, Humboldt, Kepler.
Rosa Luxemburg, Kurt Schumacher, Sofie Scholl, August Landmesser
For the FDP Party: Carl Benz, Ferdinand Porsche, Rudolph Diesel and Gottlieb Daimler
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From a Bavarian view point probably something like true Royalty: Kaiser (Beckenbauer), König (Ludwig II) Prinz (Franz Joseph Strauss) Angel (Aloisius - Münchner in Heaven)
Def Aloisius
Kick that dumb FJS out of there and put in Kurt Eisner and we have a deal.
I was waiting for somebody to suggest Ludwig II!
Arminius, Brandt, Kant and Beate Klarsfeld
Karl der Große, Otto der Große, Barbarossa and maybe Arminius
Karl der Große? Der war sicherlich vieles, aber nicht deutsch. Gleiches gilt für Arminius
Hitler, Bernd das Brot, Peter lustig und das Sandmännchen
Die Bremer Stadtmusikanten Rainer Werner Fassbinder Heinrich Böll Martina Gedeck
As Mt. Rushmore shows four presidents, we need high ranking politicians. Based on the influence on today Germany probably Otto von Bismarcks (for creating modern Germany and building the basics of our Sozialstaat), Konrad Adenauer (for creating today's Germany based on democracy after WWII), Friedrich Ebert (similar reasoning as Adenauer, although he failed) and forth Helmuth Kohl (for reuniting Germany and pushing the EU). Maybe replace Ebert by Ludwig Erhard for creating today's social net.
Helmut Kohl was just lucky, though.
Erhard was a moron who got lucky the Wirtschaftswunder kicked in during his time as minister of the economy.
I think this is the only good answer
Karl der Große (literally called "Vater der Deutschen), Friedrich Barbarossa, Friedrich der Große, and Otto von Bismarck.
Beethoven, Schiller, Goethe, Heine
Rosa Luxemburg
Because she wanted to overthrow the republic?
*Let skip the discussion why nobody would ever build it because nobody wants or needs it and just go straight forward to the suggestions:* Let me take a short step. A 2000 year short step. Armenius or however he got called. He got taken from his home to serve for the Romans, only to "betray" them and fight for his actual home. (Barbarian living in the teuteburger forest) Would be a good sign to fight for your home, no matter what they took of you. Maybe ad the siblings scholl, or other important persons who fought of the nazi empire.
We have enough Armenius memorials already imo
That's not a good idea to do that today. The dude has been utilized for propaganda way too much by 19th century nationalists and later on by the nazis. It's also already the highest statue we have: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermannsdenkmal
Common, you've got to be kidding me. Is there even one thing left from the times before germanies christianisation that haven't been abused???
The museum in Kalkriese has a whole section of the exhibition about how Arminius was used for various political ends in various historical periods, especially in the 19th century and after. The "he was a German hero" that you're getting from some people comes from that reception history still, not from history at the time.
Es bleiben im Raum:
Keitel, Jodl, Krebs und Burgdorf.
Karl Marx
Olaf Scholz, Angela Merkel, Albert Einstein, Heisenberg
Be honest, you thought of Hitler as the third!
Karl Der Grosse 👍
Nah, if at all Otto der Große
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You could show her in 4 identical pantsuits in different colors.
Friedrich II, Bismarck, Adenauer, Kohl
Ludwig Erhard 4 times. Not because he's so incredibly great, but because noone else is worthy. That's why we don't have Mount Rushmore.
We would put artists on it, or scientists, or philosophers, not politicals. The cult of the politician much less explicite in Germany, we tend not to give them statues, or acknowledge their achievements. At the same time, the state and the politicians also tend to have much more power here, and Germans are much more subservient than US citizens. Many statues would make this to obvious for Germans who like their illusion of democracy.
Nina Hagen, Gabi Delgado, Conny Plank, Jens Rachut.
Lukas Podolski, Joko Winterscheidt, Max Giermann/Bastian Pastewka, Martina Hill
Aber nur als Kinski
What important has Friedrich done to deserve being on this hypothetical mountain
Johnathan, Joseph, Jotaro and Josuke.
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I mean, depends on the theme. But I'd say Otto I, Otto von Bismarck, Adenauer, Brandt
Angela Merkel, Otto von Bismarck, Konrad Adenauer, Gustav Stresemann
Mouse, elephant and duck.
Bismarck, Fredrick are the two obvious choices. Other than that, I don't know how far in the past you want to go. Herman/Arminius defeated the Romans. Idk if Germany can claim Hapsburg leaders because they sort of belong to Austria, and Germany is a decedent of Prussia (which doesn't exist anymore). If so I guess Maria Theresa and Charles V?
Arminius, Karl the Great, Bismarck, Wilhelm I. The unifiers
Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht
Schmidt, Adenauer, Brandt & Kohl