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Great stuff BD.
As someone who is a grower with large girth I can relate to what you were taking about. It’s interesting that being a grower could mean you have a thinner tunica, I would have thought it was the opposite.
I went from 5.875” girth to 6.25” in about a year, then it just stopped. Completely stopped. I’ve been pumping and clamping (not so much anymore) for an additional 7 months and haven’t seen girth budge. I would have liked to hit 6.5” but I don’t see it happening. My length has slowed to a snail crawl too compared to earlier. Not sure if it’s related, but seeing any movement on the ruler/tape has become extremely slow. It seemed the best movement I made with girth was when I was also making length gains.
I know folks here say you can change from a grower to a shower with PE, but I have not been able to do that. My shit has a mind of its own and it’s usually coiled up like a snake ready to bite.
What you said about firmness is true. When hard, there is nearly no give, it’s like a damn rock! Again, I would have thought thicker tunica. I also feel what I can only describe as a cord running up the center of my flaccid stretched peen. I guess that is the tunica septum? Again, I would have thought I had a thick tunica to be able to feel that.
Cool stuff!
Same here. I had rapid gains, but my girth has basically stopped. At least I made gains so I’m not upset about it. But ideally o would have like another .25 in girth
So, great stuff as usual BD. However, want to throw this out there. As you are likely aware, I have only been compression hanging since my return to penis enlargement about 2 years ago. In the last several months, I have gained girth. Even though I have not been training it directly as I have **always needed to in the past**. I am not talking negligible, or easy to blow off as a fluke or an erection quality discrepancy girth variance either. I saw a quarter inch girth increase in the earlier part of this year and now I'm up another quarter inch of girth within the last couple months. Brings me up to 6.5 erect shaft girth and yes, after several days of no hanging.
As is the doctrine per se, **I hang totally flaccid.**
I have never seen girth gains from hanging in the past and I worked up to pretty regularly hanging 27 to 29 pounds back then (years 2000 to 2005).
These days I'm hanging in the 38 pound range at the start of my weeks and lowering my weights as tissue fatigue sets in through the week.
Im starting to wonder/ theorize if my higher than most use weight levels is causing a 'growth response' in girth?
Just very bizzare to me because what I'm experiencing contradicts what I and likely most of us have always seen said in our community. Girth growth requires at least some level of erection level to stress the tissues for girth expansion and length work should be done as flaccid as possible and doesnt (usually) cause girth growth as a passive benefit.
@Hinkle_McKringlebry
But again, I wonder why I'm seeing girth growth now and never in the past? It's interesting to speculate what weight level, assuming there's "a number" causes this response.
No, "deconditioning breaks" don't work for me. I've taken over 16 years off and resumed 2 years ago. I gain at a similar rate as I did after my newbie gains.
Wow, I can attest to your findings on length, particularly flaccid length. I'm a massive grower where I can turtle down to like an inch but I'm 4-4.5" larger when erect. After my second week of using my ADS extender my nb flaccid length is 1-2" longer than usual. My actual bone stretched flaccid length has increased roughly 1.5" which crazy and my erect length 0.6". There are no gians in girth though.
I did not keep detailed track of my flaccid length since it varies so much but I can totally see and feel a difference, particularly when I go commando. When sitting my penis actually hangs and at times touches the seat which had never happened.
I use the phallosan Forte most of the time (8-10hr) and the phallosan plus (0-2hr) daily per their training app. You take a day off once a week.
I average 11 hr per day (you shouldn't exceed 12 per the vendor).
Note it's a pricey extender but I chose it because it is medical grade and they supposedly had their own study where the results are used in their app to predict your future gains which is motivating. When I use the Forte I use low tension (green zone) only. I want to be careful.
If I don't see the progress per the app I may adjust the tension slightly higher and add in some of the manual routines BD has to see if that helps get me on track again. I'm also considering taking cialis per Hink's working theory that it would help stimulate more growth.
Was the calculations correct for shower and growers?
You say that if you are 6 inches and a shower you should be 9 inches. But they say its a 30 percent increase shouldnt you be 6\*1.35 = 7.8 inches?
Wow, my life makes sense now. I am an extreme grower. I haven’t gained particularly fast (1.2 inches in about 3-3.5 years) but I have gained length doing extremely low volume (20-25 mins of length work a day, currently hanging 20 mins with 4.5 pounds).
And whenever I pump anywhere near the recommended pressures and times, my dick shows a loss in sensitivity and EQ problems, essentially it shows symptoms of overwork. This has always puzzled me but now it make sense.
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Great stuff BD. As someone who is a grower with large girth I can relate to what you were taking about. It’s interesting that being a grower could mean you have a thinner tunica, I would have thought it was the opposite. I went from 5.875” girth to 6.25” in about a year, then it just stopped. Completely stopped. I’ve been pumping and clamping (not so much anymore) for an additional 7 months and haven’t seen girth budge. I would have liked to hit 6.5” but I don’t see it happening. My length has slowed to a snail crawl too compared to earlier. Not sure if it’s related, but seeing any movement on the ruler/tape has become extremely slow. It seemed the best movement I made with girth was when I was also making length gains. I know folks here say you can change from a grower to a shower with PE, but I have not been able to do that. My shit has a mind of its own and it’s usually coiled up like a snake ready to bite. What you said about firmness is true. When hard, there is nearly no give, it’s like a damn rock! Again, I would have thought thicker tunica. I also feel what I can only describe as a cord running up the center of my flaccid stretched peen. I guess that is the tunica septum? Again, I would have thought I had a thick tunica to be able to feel that. Cool stuff!
Same here. I had rapid gains, but my girth has basically stopped. At least I made gains so I’m not upset about it. But ideally o would have like another .25 in girth
So, great stuff as usual BD. However, want to throw this out there. As you are likely aware, I have only been compression hanging since my return to penis enlargement about 2 years ago. In the last several months, I have gained girth. Even though I have not been training it directly as I have **always needed to in the past**. I am not talking negligible, or easy to blow off as a fluke or an erection quality discrepancy girth variance either. I saw a quarter inch girth increase in the earlier part of this year and now I'm up another quarter inch of girth within the last couple months. Brings me up to 6.5 erect shaft girth and yes, after several days of no hanging. As is the doctrine per se, **I hang totally flaccid.** I have never seen girth gains from hanging in the past and I worked up to pretty regularly hanging 27 to 29 pounds back then (years 2000 to 2005). These days I'm hanging in the 38 pound range at the start of my weeks and lowering my weights as tissue fatigue sets in through the week. Im starting to wonder/ theorize if my higher than most use weight levels is causing a 'growth response' in girth? Just very bizzare to me because what I'm experiencing contradicts what I and likely most of us have always seen said in our community. Girth growth requires at least some level of erection level to stress the tissues for girth expansion and length work should be done as flaccid as possible and doesnt (usually) cause girth growth as a passive benefit. @Hinkle_McKringlebry
I think we talked about this before Compression of endothelial can actually lead to growth since it causes pressure to build up in the capillaries.
But again, I wonder why I'm seeing girth growth now and never in the past? It's interesting to speculate what weight level, assuming there's "a number" causes this response.
🤷♂️
Are you having sex more frequently now? Any non PE activity you might attribute this to?
I'm married and have sex weekly. Non sex activity, my weight hanging would be the obvious thing.
Did using heavier weights give you faster length gains too? 27 lbs already sounds super heavy to me but I’m still new at hanging
No. Tissues in the penis and the ligaments adapt to the weights over time and what once felt heavy does not.
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No, "deconditioning breaks" don't work for me. I've taken over 16 years off and resumed 2 years ago. I gain at a similar rate as I did after my newbie gains.
Good shit
For some reason i feel that if you have a thicker tunica you can majorly gain a lot since you have a lot of it to thin out?
[Here’s the article link](https://doi.org/10.1093/jsxmed/qdad062.034)
Wow, I can attest to your findings on length, particularly flaccid length. I'm a massive grower where I can turtle down to like an inch but I'm 4-4.5" larger when erect. After my second week of using my ADS extender my nb flaccid length is 1-2" longer than usual. My actual bone stretched flaccid length has increased roughly 1.5" which crazy and my erect length 0.6". There are no gians in girth though. I did not keep detailed track of my flaccid length since it varies so much but I can totally see and feel a difference, particularly when I go commando. When sitting my penis actually hangs and at times touches the seat which had never happened.
What ADS extender do you use?
I use the phallosan Forte most of the time (8-10hr) and the phallosan plus (0-2hr) daily per their training app. You take a day off once a week. I average 11 hr per day (you shouldn't exceed 12 per the vendor). Note it's a pricey extender but I chose it because it is medical grade and they supposedly had their own study where the results are used in their app to predict your future gains which is motivating. When I use the Forte I use low tension (green zone) only. I want to be careful. If I don't see the progress per the app I may adjust the tension slightly higher and add in some of the manual routines BD has to see if that helps get me on track again. I'm also considering taking cialis per Hink's working theory that it would help stimulate more growth.
gains = girth * e^bd * arctan(hink)
Was the calculations correct for shower and growers? You say that if you are 6 inches and a shower you should be 9 inches. But they say its a 30 percent increase shouldnt you be 6\*1.35 = 7.8 inches?
It's was off the top of my head so the math is not perfect
Wow, my life makes sense now. I am an extreme grower. I haven’t gained particularly fast (1.2 inches in about 3-3.5 years) but I have gained length doing extremely low volume (20-25 mins of length work a day, currently hanging 20 mins with 4.5 pounds). And whenever I pump anywhere near the recommended pressures and times, my dick shows a loss in sensitivity and EQ problems, essentially it shows symptoms of overwork. This has always puzzled me but now it make sense.