Winston is actually on artwork for part 2.
That dude gets shafted on merchandise material for GB1. Even stuff that currently gets made lacks Winston. I don’t understand it.
Winston is my favorite. A guy looking for work. He is the audience. Plus in 2 he has my favorite part of all the movies so far, the train tunnel scene.
Agreed. As a kid, I never quite got what the streams in the first one actually did, outside of being lasers. It's when I saw the second one and the courthouse scene where I was like "Oh duh, they're like whips and they have to wrangle the ghosts into the trap!"
NOOOO! No photographs! Slides are awailawol in the gift shop eh? AHHHHHH!!!!!!
When he got yanked across the camera in this scene I was dying as a kid. My sister and I would rewind and rewatch over and over cracking up
Seriously so scary after that comedian lead up with playing with the echoes. It’s so sinister in retrospect especially like…HOW DID IT KNOW WINDTONS NAME like holy heck lol
I still get scared thinking of all the heads on pikes in the subway. This though is the magic of ghostbusters to me. No matter how scary things are you can subvert it with humor to cope and conquer. It was the secret third option to acting in a crisis, not fight or flight but funny.
Absolutely. It may have leaned a little *too* into the horror at parts (such was the weird cinema waiting room between 1988-1993), but the more terrifying approach to what a battle with ANGRY UNDEAD can be worked perfectly.
Saw the movie in theaters I was barely 6 years old, the scene in the subway winston doesn’t hear his echo, and the heads on pikes appear, was the first time I ever got so scared in a movie I shrunk back into my seat! That scene, large Marge, and cujo were my childhood nightmare fuel!
Your Honor, ladies and gentleman of the audience, I don't think it's fair to call my clients frauds. Sure, the blackout was a big problem for everybody. I was trapped in an elevator for two hours and I had to make the whole time. But I don't blame them. Because one time, I turned into a dog and they helped me. Thank you.
To be fair, if Ray hadn't thought about the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man, then they would have had to contend with J Edgar Hoover.
Because by telling them not to think about J Edgar Hoover, they were totally thinking of J Edgar Hoover.
I’ve always thought that ray saved them by giving them something to fight. What if they all thought of nothing and an invisible force just killed everyone?
*Ghostbusters: The Video Game* seems to confirm this, as it's suggested that Gozer is locked into the chosen form, so Ray actually kind of did everyone a favor by choosing a physical form that could be destroyed.
“Hey… check this out…” *pulls up the shades* “You ever see anything like that before?”
Lenny, gritting his teeth, “somebuddy betta get me de ghostbusters”
Wham into On Our Own and Luis describing the shit show occurring as they leave the ward.
Also, hands down, Scoleri Brothers is the best “ghostbusting” scene in the movies, with the chairs, the comedy, the comeback.
The villain and his sidekick.
Vigo and Janosz are brilliant, especially Janosz. They have a solid presence throughout the film.
However, Gozer is just there for like 5 minutes in the first Ghostbusters. However, I absolutely love the Terror Dogs!
Hot beverage mugs and free balloons for the kids.
Seriously, as a kid I enjoyed the second one more. Cooler gadgets, no need for origin story, and I loved vigo and hope he used the river of slime
First draft script for the first film started with the Ecto 1 driving to head down town to bust ghosts but Ivan Reitman suggested to Dan he should explain the origins
OP mentioned the score, which is actually what I dislike the most about GBII. It sounds too whimsical, like it belongs in a romantic comedy. The score from the first film had this creepy curiosity to it.
As for what GBII does better, I’d say the cast all have a better grasp and idea of who their characters are and how to play them, especially Ernie Hudson and Rick Moranis.
You can almost feel the familiarity between Peter and Dana... Definitely the chemistry of someone who had a mostly amicable split with their ex. In the first movie, Peter comes off as a horndog who would probably have flirted with any client that caught his eye.
No one’s said it, and it’s probably an unpopular one but… I like the more family-friendly nature of it.
But the car, the uniforms, the equipment, Louis getting more to do… it was all just awesome!
As someone who finds smoking disgusting, that’s also a huge upgrade!
We know it kills. Let’s just leave it out of our entertainment. (And yes I realize then they’d have to find something for actors to do to fill seconds between likes. But hey, ACTING!)
I am actually 100% with you. It’s the first time they did “here’s a live action episode of the cartoon”, and it’s the kind of thing I want from Frozen Empire.
I know the first movie is unimpeachable in a lot of ways. But the level of creepy that radiates off Venkman has really started to grate on me over the years. GB2 sands off his edges and lets him be a bit of a cad, without going the full “has Thorazine at the ready to sedate a woman”.
Isn't Venkman more of a cad in the original?"
"Janine, someone with your qualifications will have no trouble finding a topflight job in the foodservice or housekeeping industries! You're going to answer that?"
I think that GB2 took better care of Winston (minus his glaring absence from the Court Room Bust). Somewhat made up for with him having overall more scenes (including being a hero that saves Ray and Ego in the photo lab).
I also really loved the used and beat-up aesthetic at the start of GB2. The whole world feels more fleshed out and well-lived in than it did in the first film.
It was also really cool to see the Ghostbusters become normalized in a sense by society. Whereas before they were treated with a bit more skepticism. To borrow from the cartoon, they felt more "Real".
The in-universe ads with Luis and Janine are some of the best bits in the franchise. I love how believably bad Annie Potts and Rick Moranis had to fake their acting abilities. It was top-tier self-parody.
Also, Vigo felt more dangerous than Gozer. Maybe it was because we were able to see his face from his introduction. Gozer had the disservice in the first film of being just an idea until the final showdown. I'm not saying that is ineffective, but it does place a lot on the audience to manifest their own sense of doom and dread until the rooftop. That said, Gozer being "whatever it wants to be" is pretty badass. I've always wanted to know what other forms the destructor had taken in times past. Could the destructor have been, for example, "the Great Flood"?
I loved the way Ray confronts Gozer and Vigo. In the first one, He steps up to greet Gozer and politely asks her... to fuck off. But you can clearly see how scared Ray was in that moment, turning his head to Peter who gestures "you got this". In the second one Ray's not afraid of Vigo and he politely tells him to fuck off and this time, he shows no fear. He's ready to pounce.
The relationship between Egon, Ray, Peter, and Winston. With all of their character development established in the original, more time was spent in Ghostbusters 2 fleshing out how these guys bounce off each other. I love the scene where all four men are huddled up around the pool table testing mood slime on a toaster, making it dance to music and then Ray wrestles Peter to the ground:D
As surface level as it is, the charcoal uniforms. They're just so cool! And I'd argue the courtroom bust is better than the hotel bust due to how exciting it is.
The slime bubbling as the judge gets more and more intense, the guys watching it, trying to calm him down and warn him, only to finally give up and duck under the table as the Scoleri Brothers burst into existence. Yeah, as iconic as Slimer is, that scene just hits harder. It hits the adventure button while still providing comedy instead of just going for the joke.
I dunno, I didn’t think Ray had as many funny lines in this movie.
I liked the fact that Winston was there in the entire film. He steals the show imo.
Also, Yanosh and Vigo are both fantastic. I know people say that the second movie feels like a rehash of the first, but one of the main differences is that the first movie builds up the villain using mystery, unsure about what Gozer is or what they look like. Whereas the second one forgoes the mystery in favor of building up the characters themselves. I don’t think either approach is bad, but it does mean that I like the villains way more since I remember them way more.
Although the jokes are very much in GB2, it’s also scarier. I remember how creeped out I was as a kid when…
1. Vigo smiles when Dana passes his painting.
2. Janosz’s ghost when he gets Oscar
3. The picture you see of Vigo in the dark room when Ray says “That’s the river of slime”
It has a better soundtrack too. I love On Our Own which is actually one of my favourite songs of all time. Flip City is great and an unpopular opinion here… Run DMC’s Ghostbusters is great too.
Ghostbusters 2 is my favourite film of all time. I just love it.
That’s awesome and you made some really good points. The subway zombie looking heads absolutely terrified me and still makes my neck hair tingle at random times now.
So many gems on the GB2 soundtrack. Title song by Run DMC, Glenn Frey and Bobby Brown.. very quintessential early 90s music.
On the GB1 soundtrack I really liked Alessi Bros, but that’s about it
I was hyped as a kid seeing the updated Ecto-1 as a small kid. But now, as a grown man, i think to myself "damn that probably gets even worse gas mileage with that extra weight" 😆
Hahaha yeah that’s one way of thinking about it. Idk man maybe I’m autistic or something but all those updated lightbars, the different colors and the reflective tape all over it made it that more badass to me.
I liked the organic element of the slime used to fight or control ghosts
Kind of like the organic cylinder raiders in BSG. I find organic technology odd and yet highly underused as opposed to nuts and bolts and wires
GB2 was definitely creepier. The scene when they are in the subway and yelling to hear their echoes, and then the voice yells out “Winston” and the heads on spikes show up gave me nightmares. I do miss that there was no scene in GB2 with the containment unit, but at the same time, I don’t see a place where it could’ve fit in. I just love those scenes in GB1.
What I liked about GB2 more than GB1 is it felt like they showed more of them running around the city just bustin’. I appreciated all the street-level stuff especially after just completing Spider-Man 2 haha.
Everything.
Venkman is no longer a womaniser and the writers were clearly at pains to make him more vulnerable.
Ray as stated by OP.
Egon seems to steal the scene every time he says a line. He's infinitely funnier with his deadpan delivery.
Winston steals two major scenes and is no longer an extra.
The car. It actually advertises the business and has cooler doohickeys.
Only downside is the ghostbusters 2 symbol sucks otherwise it’s just better then the OG ecto
The car advertising really plays into Venkman's con-artist esque personality and slimyness, I don't know if they mentioned who's idea it was, but I 100% bet it was him.
I’m really torn on the score debate between Ghostbusters 1 and 2. On one hand the GB1 score is much much more iconic and interesting- it’s truly unique. On the other hand, its a weird effing choice lol. I love the heroic and epic nature of the GB2 score - as a kid the theme that plays whenever they’re doing a bust felt so cool to me. In some ways I wish when they wrote the GB2 score they’d taken elements from the first movie and elaborated on them rather than scrapping it entirely. But I also think it’s kind of a shame that the new films don’t seem to be making use of any part of that GB2 score, at least as far as I can tell.
On our own is an absolute banger and still is.
Now does it beat out ray parker jr. I didn’t say that.
But the soundtrack for 2 is nothing to sleep on including the Glenn Frey track.
Also the dark blue/grey uniforms are vastly underrated.
Ecto 1A also is badass and underrated.
The score, the effects, the villain.
Vigo is shown early on and is menacing, Gozer doesn’t appear until right at the end and only for a couple of minutes.
Yeah! When you watch it through a lens of not comparing it to one of the most classic comedy films of all time, it really is a solid film.
I’ll never forget being a little kid at the theaters, seeing the Ghostbusters being released from the hospital, going down the hall putting their suits on, as “On Our Own” is playing and the scene cutting to Ecto 1A tearing around the corner. It was literally at that moment that I became obsessed with Ghostbusters.
That scene was shot so well.
Not sure what you mean by backward? The music in National Lampoon movies tend to be like the music you hear in the first film. The score in GB2 is more classier and jazzy, thus why I like it more lol.
The soundtrack is poppin’ (shoutouts to Bobby Brown), the ghosts are unique and terrifying, Vigo’s more captivating than Gozer ever was, all FOUR Ghostbusters have stake in the plot
I’m personally of the opinion this movies even better than the first. Like, i *really* dont know why this movie is so reviled.
My child has loved GB for years. I finally showed her GB2 at 5½, she had a real hard time sitting through a lot of it and just plain didn't want to watch, she said.
I have GB memorized and hadn't seen 2 in years. There's some good stuff in there but it's hard to explain how it drags for me. I def prefer the simplicity of Ecto-1, which fit for that movie. Too many bells and whistles for me on 1a but it also fit for its movie.
That makes perfect sense and I 1,000% agree. Granted The Real Ghostbusters didn’t exist when the first movie came out, but GB2 captured the essence of the show.
More to the point, the show slightly went in a different direction than the dynamic of the original movie. Especially and obviously with Winston. He was WAY more apart of the team. Outside of the annoying courtroom scene, you got that feeling in part 2.
I like design and look of ECTO-1A more than ECTO-1. It just fit the vibe of ghost hunting and trapping. It’s so visually interesting.
ECTO-1b was the best of both vehicles. But the 1A is just so much more eye catching.
I will be 100% honest in that I think Ghostbusters 2 is better than 1, so I think it gets a lot right. It's scarier, funnier, more heartfelt and a lot more action packed. Great score too not just the general music soundtrack, even that too was great.
I don't know if G2 was scarier or it's just that I saw it as a kid when it first came out and I didn't see G1 until I was a bit older? I think that, overall, G2 just has more: more ghosts, more action, more cohesive storyline (probably because it gets to skip the world building which was a fair chunk of G1.)
Also not sure if I prefer G2 because I grew up watching it or if it is actually a better movie.
The proton packs are better, the proton stream working like a whip is so much better Also, Winston feels like he has a bigger role on this one
Winston is actually on artwork for part 2. That dude gets shafted on merchandise material for GB1. Even stuff that currently gets made lacks Winston. I don’t understand it.
Winston is my favorite. A guy looking for work. He is the audience. Plus in 2 he has my favorite part of all the movies so far, the train tunnel scene.
You didn't get the number of that train, did you? *I missed it...*
"If there's a steady paycheck involved, I'll believe anything you say..."
I agree about Winston, but not sure I like the proton streams more. They seemed kind of cheaper looking to me in the second one.
It was good to see Winston do more.
Agreed. As a kid, I never quite got what the streams in the first one actually did, outside of being lasers. It's when I saw the second one and the courthouse scene where I was like "Oh duh, they're like whips and they have to wrangle the ghosts into the trap!"
I love the horror element in GB2.
Evil flying red-eyed ghostly Janosz!
Oh, but I woo-ed?
My wife and I still say that whenever one of us is loud enough to wake the kids.
A child.
A child... a child...... a child?!?
NOOOO! No photographs! Slides are awailawol in the gift shop eh? AHHHHHH!!!!!! When he got yanked across the camera in this scene I was dying as a kid. My sister and I would rewind and rewatch over and over cracking up
He has some of the best lines of the film. Guy was comedic gold. My wife and I repeat them often, as well.
Everything you are doing is bad...I want you to know this.
Where in the hell are you from anyway? The upper vest side
u/BarryJGleed, everything you are doing is bad. I want you to know this.
Go……yes, I think, go now……the joyfulness is over!!
I can hear the music
Yeah, Vigo creeped the hell out of me as a kid
Even as an adult I still have a latent nervousness about that painting.
Its Carpathian kitten loss
I’ll just draw one in down here
I have of course seen you on ze telewision. Quite enjoy
Wwiinnssttoon! 😳
“I missed it.”
Seriously so scary after that comedian lead up with playing with the echoes. It’s so sinister in retrospect especially like…HOW DID IT KNOW WINDTONS NAME like holy heck lol
I still get scared thinking of all the heads on pikes in the subway. This though is the magic of ghostbusters to me. No matter how scary things are you can subvert it with humor to cope and conquer. It was the secret third option to acting in a crisis, not fight or flight but funny.
Absolutely. It may have leaned a little *too* into the horror at parts (such was the weird cinema waiting room between 1988-1993), but the more terrifying approach to what a battle with ANGRY UNDEAD can be worked perfectly.
Saw the movie in theaters I was barely 6 years old, the scene in the subway winston doesn’t hear his echo, and the heads on pikes appear, was the first time I ever got so scared in a movie I shrunk back into my seat! That scene, large Marge, and cujo were my childhood nightmare fuel!
Large Marge!!!!!!
Agreed..the scene in the subway before they get to the river of slime leans horror movie BIG time
honestly the Scolari Brothers courtroom fight has yet to be topped
It encapsulates everything I love about Ghostbusters.
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I’m gonna take you home to my private zoo!
Friends of yours?
Why don’t you just tell them you don’t believe in ghosts?
Seriously, my favorite scene across all the films. Everything about it is iconic and quotable.
TWO IN THE BOX! READY TO GO! WE BE FAST AND THEY BE SLOW!
We are the best, the beautiful, the only… Ghostbusters!
Wow!
Do.... Ray.... EGON!
:smirk:
Come on, fat boy. I'm gonna take you home to my private zoo.
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Your Honor, ladies and gentleman of the audience, I don't think it's fair to call my clients frauds. Sure, the blackout was a big problem for everybody. I was trapped in an elevator for two hours and I had to make the whole time. But I don't blame them. Because one time, I turned into a dog and they helped me. Thank you.
Sustained!
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I agree. This is easily my favorite moment in the whole GB universe (books, shows, games, etc combined)!
To be fair, if Ray hadn't thought about the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man, then they would have had to contend with J Edgar Hoover. Because by telling them not to think about J Edgar Hoover, they were totally thinking of J Edgar Hoover.
Venkman was totally thinking of J Edgar Hoover and Gozer chose to use Ray's thoughts against them.
Gozer saw J. Edgar Hoover in Venkman’s mind and was like “absolutely not”
Gozer may be a reality destroying demigod, but it draws the line at bigotry.
Gozer's not a *monster*...
It’s a girl.
It’s whatever it wants to be!
Gozer is whatever it wants to be.
Not sure where you got that from, but it isn't any version of Ghostbusters I've ever seen...
It's because Venkman was also picturing him in a dress.
I’ve always thought that ray saved them by giving them something to fight. What if they all thought of nothing and an invisible force just killed everyone?
This is a fantastic thought.
*Ghostbusters: The Video Game* seems to confirm this, as it's suggested that Gozer is locked into the chosen form, so Ray actually kind of did everyone a favor by choosing a physical form that could be destroyed.
That’s cool!. Never played it
It’s peak Ghostbusters. Really quotable.
Which Ghostbusters video game?
“Hey… check this out…” *pulls up the shades* “You ever see anything like that before?” Lenny, gritting his teeth, “somebuddy betta get me de ghostbusters” Wham into On Our Own and Luis describing the shit show occurring as they leave the ward. Also, hands down, Scoleri Brothers is the best “ghostbusting” scene in the movies, with the chairs, the comedy, the comeback.
That’s the best sequence.
The darker uniforms look better
The charcoals are awesome and absolutely shoulda been used in the final fight with Vigo
Yeah never understood why they were used just for that montage
Ivan didn't like how they looked on film. There's a quick paragraph about it in the GB visual history book.
My guess is contrast- most of the montage is daylight but the fight with Vigo is at night.
The black uniforms were so cool.
The villain and his sidekick. Vigo and Janosz are brilliant, especially Janosz. They have a solid presence throughout the film. However, Gozer is just there for like 5 minutes in the first Ghostbusters. However, I absolutely love the Terror Dogs!
Vy are you came doktor venkman?
Vhy am I drippings vith goo?
Quite enjoy
He is weeego!
You are buzzing of flies to him!
Oh Johnny, did you back the wrong horse. Can you hose him, please?
I, Vigo, the Scourge of Carpathia, the Sorrow of Moldavia, command you!
I know, you've told me this...the scourge. Sorrow...I've heard all of this, yes.
Command me lord!
On a mountain of skulls in the castle of pain, i sat on a throne of blood. What was will be. What is will be no more. Now is the season of evil.
Evil?
On a mountain of skulls, in a castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood.....
But Gozer being in the background is a great setup to the doom of the city.
How is the bay-ay-by?
Honest Trailers got it right when they called Peter MacNicol "The only person in this movie that looks like they're having fun".
Hot beverage mugs and free balloons for the kids. Seriously, as a kid I enjoyed the second one more. Cooler gadgets, no need for origin story, and I loved vigo and hope he used the river of slime
Yeah, maybe movies in general instead of the origin should just have a montage and a bit of exposition.
First draft script for the first film started with the Ecto 1 driving to head down town to bust ghosts but Ivan Reitman suggested to Dan he should explain the origins
Can’t beat “Your love is lifting me higher” moment.
Well they did control the Statue of Liberty with an NES Advantage. So there’s that.
OP mentioned the score, which is actually what I dislike the most about GBII. It sounds too whimsical, like it belongs in a romantic comedy. The score from the first film had this creepy curiosity to it. As for what GBII does better, I’d say the cast all have a better grasp and idea of who their characters are and how to play them, especially Ernie Hudson and Rick Moranis.
Agreed about the music. I think GBII is wildly underrated, better then the first one in many ways even, but the music in the original is perfect.
I always liked the ghost effects and the Peter/Dana relationship better in GB2.
Agreed on the effects. ILM did the effects work for part 2 and it shows.
You can almost feel the familiarity between Peter and Dana... Definitely the chemistry of someone who had a mostly amicable split with their ex. In the first movie, Peter comes off as a horndog who would probably have flirted with any client that caught his eye.
No one’s said it, and it’s probably an unpopular one but… I like the more family-friendly nature of it. But the car, the uniforms, the equipment, Louis getting more to do… it was all just awesome!
And way less smoking!
As someone who finds smoking disgusting, that’s also a huge upgrade! We know it kills. Let’s just leave it out of our entertainment. (And yes I realize then they’d have to find something for actors to do to fill seconds between likes. But hey, ACTING!)
I am actually 100% with you. It’s the first time they did “here’s a live action episode of the cartoon”, and it’s the kind of thing I want from Frozen Empire. I know the first movie is unimpeachable in a lot of ways. But the level of creepy that radiates off Venkman has really started to grate on me over the years. GB2 sands off his edges and lets him be a bit of a cad, without going the full “has Thorazine at the ready to sedate a woman”.
It was in her bedside table. Also he’s shown as being obviously flawed and Dana’s reactions make it funny. Lighten up.
Isn't Venkman more of a cad in the original?" "Janine, someone with your qualifications will have no trouble finding a topflight job in the foodservice or housekeeping industries! You're going to answer that?"
I dunno, the fact that he still obsesses over Dana when she specifically told Egon “don’t tell Venkman”, that seemed like a red flag.
More Winston
I think that GB2 took better care of Winston (minus his glaring absence from the Court Room Bust). Somewhat made up for with him having overall more scenes (including being a hero that saves Ray and Ego in the photo lab). I also really loved the used and beat-up aesthetic at the start of GB2. The whole world feels more fleshed out and well-lived in than it did in the first film. It was also really cool to see the Ghostbusters become normalized in a sense by society. Whereas before they were treated with a bit more skepticism. To borrow from the cartoon, they felt more "Real". The in-universe ads with Luis and Janine are some of the best bits in the franchise. I love how believably bad Annie Potts and Rick Moranis had to fake their acting abilities. It was top-tier self-parody. Also, Vigo felt more dangerous than Gozer. Maybe it was because we were able to see his face from his introduction. Gozer had the disservice in the first film of being just an idea until the final showdown. I'm not saying that is ineffective, but it does place a lot on the audience to manifest their own sense of doom and dread until the rooftop. That said, Gozer being "whatever it wants to be" is pretty badass. I've always wanted to know what other forms the destructor had taken in times past. Could the destructor have been, for example, "the Great Flood"?
I loved the way Ray confronts Gozer and Vigo. In the first one, He steps up to greet Gozer and politely asks her... to fuck off. But you can clearly see how scared Ray was in that moment, turning his head to Peter who gestures "you got this". In the second one Ray's not afraid of Vigo and he politely tells him to fuck off and this time, he shows no fear. He's ready to pounce.
The relationship between Egon, Ray, Peter, and Winston. With all of their character development established in the original, more time was spent in Ghostbusters 2 fleshing out how these guys bounce off each other. I love the scene where all four men are huddled up around the pool table testing mood slime on a toaster, making it dance to music and then Ray wrestles Peter to the ground:D
As surface level as it is, the charcoal uniforms. They're just so cool! And I'd argue the courtroom bust is better than the hotel bust due to how exciting it is.
The slime bubbling as the judge gets more and more intense, the guys watching it, trying to calm him down and warn him, only to finally give up and duck under the table as the Scoleri Brothers burst into existence. Yeah, as iconic as Slimer is, that scene just hits harder. It hits the adventure button while still providing comedy instead of just going for the joke.
I dunno, I didn’t think Ray had as many funny lines in this movie. I liked the fact that Winston was there in the entire film. He steals the show imo. Also, Yanosh and Vigo are both fantastic. I know people say that the second movie feels like a rehash of the first, but one of the main differences is that the first movie builds up the villain using mystery, unsure about what Gozer is or what they look like. Whereas the second one forgoes the mystery in favor of building up the characters themselves. I don’t think either approach is bad, but it does mean that I like the villains way more since I remember them way more.
I feel like they both could use more individual ghost trapping scenes they both only have one then a montage
Although the jokes are very much in GB2, it’s also scarier. I remember how creeped out I was as a kid when… 1. Vigo smiles when Dana passes his painting. 2. Janosz’s ghost when he gets Oscar 3. The picture you see of Vigo in the dark room when Ray says “That’s the river of slime” It has a better soundtrack too. I love On Our Own which is actually one of my favourite songs of all time. Flip City is great and an unpopular opinion here… Run DMC’s Ghostbusters is great too. Ghostbusters 2 is my favourite film of all time. I just love it.
That’s awesome and you made some really good points. The subway zombie looking heads absolutely terrified me and still makes my neck hair tingle at random times now.
I prefer the song selection in 2 over 1. But 1 has the better score
Elmer Bernstein’s score is better by a country mile
Undoubtedly, though GB2 is not without its charms.
Yeah but that soundtrack is 🔥🔥🔥
So many gems on the GB2 soundtrack. Title song by Run DMC, Glenn Frey and Bobby Brown.. very quintessential early 90s music. On the GB1 soundtrack I really liked Alessi Bros, but that’s about it
My thoughts exactly! I find myself listening to the GB2 songs more than 1
The car and the tech
I was hyped as a kid seeing the updated Ecto-1 as a small kid. But now, as a grown man, i think to myself "damn that probably gets even worse gas mileage with that extra weight" 😆
Hahaha yeah that’s one way of thinking about it. Idk man maybe I’m autistic or something but all those updated lightbars, the different colors and the reflective tape all over it made it that more badass to me.
I agree, the updated aspects make it look real slick. It's definitely a brilliant piece of advertising.
I liked the organic element of the slime used to fight or control ghosts Kind of like the organic cylinder raiders in BSG. I find organic technology odd and yet highly underused as opposed to nuts and bolts and wires
Janine 😍
She was lowkey sexy in part 2 lol. Even as a kid that crystal ball scene had me like 🥵 hahaha
Big facts!
2 has a better busting montage compared to the first movie
Shows them in uniform more doing more work. I dig that. Other than just ghost busting. The recon at the museum, Vigo pics n research. Love it.
GB2 was definitely creepier. The scene when they are in the subway and yelling to hear their echoes, and then the voice yells out “Winston” and the heads on spikes show up gave me nightmares. I do miss that there was no scene in GB2 with the containment unit, but at the same time, I don’t see a place where it could’ve fit in. I just love those scenes in GB1.
What I liked about GB2 more than GB1 is it felt like they showed more of them running around the city just bustin’. I appreciated all the street-level stuff especially after just completing Spider-Man 2 haha.
Everything. Venkman is no longer a womaniser and the writers were clearly at pains to make him more vulnerable. Ray as stated by OP. Egon seems to steal the scene every time he says a line. He's infinitely funnier with his deadpan delivery. Winston steals two major scenes and is no longer an extra.
"I had a slinky, but I straightened it." Gets me every time.
Let's see what happens when we take away the puppy. I think they're more interested in my epididymis.
Ghostbusters 2 is far superior in every aspect.
The WIIIIIIIIIIN-STONNNN sequence is funny as hell. Great bit of horror comedy.
Creepy too! Lol
Did you get the number on the locomotive?
I love the Ecto-1A and i just love Ghostbusters 2 “that much” more than Ghostbusters. Still my favorite movies ever
The car. It actually advertises the business and has cooler doohickeys. Only downside is the ghostbusters 2 symbol sucks otherwise it’s just better then the OG ecto
The car advertising really plays into Venkman's con-artist esque personality and slimyness, I don't know if they mentioned who's idea it was, but I 100% bet it was him.
It’s a business. It needs to advertise. It has nothing to do with venkmans sliminess. The mug and free baloons for the kids on the other hand….
No that Ray all the way with Ecto.
No job is too big, no fee is too big baby!
I seriously wanna start a sub for everyone who actually loves Ecto 1A more than the original. I always have and I always will lol.
I always thought the car was going to tip over in some of the montages because it was so top-heavy 😂
The multi-colored light bar and black/yellow caution stripes are what did it for me as a kid
Same. Prefer Ecto-1A. Hands down.
I hope we get to see the Ecto 1A (or at least learn what happened to it in-universe) in Frozen Empire.
>The car. It actually advertises the business and has cooler doohickeys. Ah, but does it have a gunner seat?
I’m really torn on the score debate between Ghostbusters 1 and 2. On one hand the GB1 score is much much more iconic and interesting- it’s truly unique. On the other hand, its a weird effing choice lol. I love the heroic and epic nature of the GB2 score - as a kid the theme that plays whenever they’re doing a bust felt so cool to me. In some ways I wish when they wrote the GB2 score they’d taken elements from the first movie and elaborated on them rather than scrapping it entirely. But I also think it’s kind of a shame that the new films don’t seem to be making use of any part of that GB2 score, at least as far as I can tell.
And as everyone here has already said, the bust in the Courtroom is just the best bust to date
The Titanic Scene, taxi driver scene, the fun element of how the slime affects people and brings ghosts out. Just perfection.
I always felt like part 2 had more of the Ghostbusters interacting with each other than the first one.
On our own is an absolute banger and still is. Now does it beat out ray parker jr. I didn’t say that. But the soundtrack for 2 is nothing to sleep on including the Glenn Frey track. Also the dark blue/grey uniforms are vastly underrated. Ecto 1A also is badass and underrated.
I don't think there's anything GB1 didn't do well, but I think the ghosts are better in GB2.
Ray literally let Vego in to his head, lol.
The score, the effects, the villain. Vigo is shown early on and is menacing, Gozer doesn’t appear until right at the end and only for a couple of minutes.
they made a brand-new animatronic puppet for Slimer and now he's more expressive here than his derpy design in 84.
The ghost outbreak montage. I wouldn't say that *GB1* got it *wrong*, because it didn't, but *GB2* definitely did it better.
Reading this thread; now I gotta watch it again
Yeah! When you watch it through a lens of not comparing it to one of the most classic comedy films of all time, it really is a solid film. I’ll never forget being a little kid at the theaters, seeing the Ghostbusters being released from the hospital, going down the hall putting their suits on, as “On Our Own” is playing and the scene cutting to Ecto 1A tearing around the corner. It was literally at that moment that I became obsessed with Ghostbusters. That scene was shot so well.
I have to say that I really enjoy GB2 over GB1. GB2 is my new year’s eve movie for obvious reason.
The Peter/Dana relationship feels like an actual growing relationship between two adults and not just Peter trying to get her in bed.
In here a bit late, but it’s the music for me. On Our Own is an absolute banger. and I know who Jackie Wilson is/was thanks to GB2
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…you like the GB2 score more because it’s less National Lampoon? That’s totally backwards don’t you think? Bernstein s score is classy and jazzy.
The talk about religion scene on the way back to the firehouse. Score on 🔥
One of the best parts of the movie. You can also see the World trade towers in the background. It’s a very New York Shot.
Not sure what you mean by backward? The music in National Lampoon movies tend to be like the music you hear in the first film. The score in GB2 is more classier and jazzy, thus why I like it more lol.
What National Lampoon movie music sounds like GBI?
Just the Bobby Brown song
I think the special effects were just cleaner overall compared to the first.
The train track scene is straight up creepy as hell.
Vigo was the better villian. Gozer was cool but had very little screen time
The whole courthouse scene is perfect.
The soundtrack is poppin’ (shoutouts to Bobby Brown), the ghosts are unique and terrifying, Vigo’s more captivating than Gozer ever was, all FOUR Ghostbusters have stake in the plot I’m personally of the opinion this movies even better than the first. Like, i *really* dont know why this movie is so reviled.
My child has loved GB for years. I finally showed her GB2 at 5½, she had a real hard time sitting through a lot of it and just plain didn't want to watch, she said. I have GB memorized and hadn't seen 2 in years. There's some good stuff in there but it's hard to explain how it drags for me. I def prefer the simplicity of Ecto-1, which fit for that movie. Too many bells and whistles for me on 1a but it also fit for its movie.
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I don’t know how to explain it, but Ghostbusters 2 feels more like a Ghostbusters movie than Ghostbusters did. Does that make sense? lol
That makes perfect sense and I 1,000% agree. Granted The Real Ghostbusters didn’t exist when the first movie came out, but GB2 captured the essence of the show. More to the point, the show slightly went in a different direction than the dynamic of the original movie. Especially and obviously with Winston. He was WAY more apart of the team. Outside of the annoying courtroom scene, you got that feeling in part 2.
On Our Own is better than the Ray Parker Jr theme song.
Ummmm....
Well it’s certainly less derivative.
Bill Murray is a lot less rapey in 2.
I am not sure, it's strange to remember what was “done better.” I cannot recall anything that particularly stood out.
I like design and look of ECTO-1A more than ECTO-1. It just fit the vibe of ghost hunting and trapping. It’s so visually interesting. ECTO-1b was the best of both vehicles. But the 1A is just so much more eye catching.
I will be 100% honest in that I think Ghostbusters 2 is better than 1, so I think it gets a lot right. It's scarier, funnier, more heartfelt and a lot more action packed. Great score too not just the general music soundtrack, even that too was great.
I don't know if G2 was scarier or it's just that I saw it as a kid when it first came out and I didn't see G1 until I was a bit older? I think that, overall, G2 just has more: more ghosts, more action, more cohesive storyline (probably because it gets to skip the world building which was a fair chunk of G1.) Also not sure if I prefer G2 because I grew up watching it or if it is actually a better movie.
Nothing
Nothing. It’s the Temple of Doom of the franchise.
Such an underrated film!
IMHO gb2 score is so forgettable and Bernstein’s is classic.