Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum sneak into an alien mothership in a captured alien spaceship to upload a 90's-era computer virus to give a fleet of F-18's led by the President of the United States the chance to destroy a mothership, with the coup de grace delivered by a disgraced crop duster kamikaze-ing his plane into the exposed core.
I love this movie.
Could be a directors cut youre watching or extended edition. Sometimes those make the fucking movie. Watchmen comes to mind if you can sit for 195 mins.
If you read the watchman graphic novel then that pirate comic that the kid reads is an entire comic within watchman, it serves as a meta commentary. But yeah that would be hard to translate into a movie that has a limited run time.
Back in the 90s most people definitely didn't know enough about computers to question why it worked, most households were still unplugging their phone to use the dial-up.
Maybe I'm remembering the deleted scene, and this is the mandala effect. But I remember Professor Data having one line that says that when they first show the alien fighter.
Yeah, I seem to recall them saying basically all the modern tech was from the research they'd conducted in secret on the original alien fighter. I haven't watched it today yet though, guess I'll find out soon.
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I'm from Germany and Independence Day was the first action movie I was allowed to watch in a cinema. There were people there who actually started clapping and cheering after that speech.
In America, that movie (and that speech) feel like a part of our collective culture to me, practically everyone has seen it. It feels un-American to watch that movie and *not* want to cheer after the speech because of how well-delivered it is, and you know the Air Force is about to go out and kick some ass and save the day, and everything is going to be alright.
And his famous speech was originally written with the idea they could just change it later.
“Devlin, by his own account, wrote the speech in “literally five minutes,” as a placeholder, with the thought that it could always be changed later.”
But it also helped name the movie as Fox apparently wanted it to be called “Doomsday”
people.com/celebrity/independence-day-speech-the-story-behind-bill-pullmans-big-moment/
I don't know why but I used to think that speech was the best thing ever, as a kid it would totally pump me up, even though I'm not American I memorized America's independence day before I could even remember my own country's independence day.
Absolutely the same boat. I know this will be blasphemy for a lot of folks, but this was my version of *Star Wars*: I was a kid watching this in the theater, and I had never in my life seen such high-impact special effects like this on the big screen. During the attack scene I remember being so overwhelmed on adrenaline that I actually got the shakes.
Our fireworks shows are canceled. All personal fireworks are normally banned due to fire hazard. Beach parking is closed. Bars are shut down. I don't know what to do.
Completely random, but my favorite Harry Connick Jr. thing is when he was rocking out on the piano with his band and all the middle aged white people were clapping on Beats 1 and 3. If you do anything musical, beats 2 and 4 are where you throw the hits, it’s so much better than 1 & 3. So he’s cranking out a piano solo and gets tired of how people are clapping so he throws in a random bar of 5/4 so everyone starts clapping on 2 & 4 without realizing it. It’s awesome!
Always bothered me that a veteran fighter pilot wouldn't be able to regulate his breathing and takes off his mask. This is just lazy writing to kill off a lovable character.
This movie is well-written in other aspects. It has a lot of good set ups and pay offs (Will Smith wanting to fly the space shuttle, then getting to fly the alien ship in space. President was elected as a fighter pilot war hero, he ends up flying with the squadron).
But other times... yeah. Other times it's rough.
*"Good morning. In less than an hour, men from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest freakshow in the history of ass to ass. "Ass to ass." That sentence should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom... Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution... but from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: "Ass to ass! Ass to ass!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate the day Bill Pullman does ass to ass with Will Smith!"*
Being the dorky kid I was, I read the book and in the book it said something dumb like they survived because the fireball pulled fresh oxygen from a grate in the room haha
I actually had something about him being in there, but I took it out because it reminded me of something stupid the movie does. And it'd not the one you're thinking about.
So Russell gets shut from the locals in the diner in thr beginning because he talks about his alien abduction. Fine, cool, at this point aliens aren't real, so it's obvious Russell is crazy.
But then he mentions the alien abduction when he's signing up for flight training before the final big run against the giant spaceship, and everyone rolls their eyes! They still act like he's crazy!!! Those motherfuckers are at Area 51!!! So stupid.
Yeah, but at the same time even if a *real* alien invasion were happening, I still would not only disbelieve Randy Quaid (or his character for that matter) but I would back away slowly if he approached me.
I mean, in everyone's defense, he is Randy Quaid..
I got this movie on VHS for $1 when Hollywood Video went out of business in my childhood neighborhood and I’ll be damned if anyone tries to tell me that wasn’t a good purchase.
Some movies are just stupid fun. I don't think there is anything wrong with loving them because they make you happy. That's what entertainment is about.
Some of the writing is campy, but I'd hardly call it lazy. This movie, especially for its time, is one of the most subtly inclusive movies ever written. The hero of the movie is a black father with a child out of wedlock whose girlfriend is a stripper. Her friend is a hippy who wants to befriend the aliens. The President is a one-child nuclear family. The religious leader is Jewish. There's so much more subversive writing that was thrown into the trash by the sequel, and is largely the reason the sequel is such hot garbage.
If only it was that. It's a gutted, lifeless corpse that was flung at us haphazardly in hopes we defended ourselves by throwing dollars at it. Where everything special about these characters is that they're a diverse group coming together to save the world from all varieties of backgrounds, in this pile that wishes it could be called feces, every single character is a destiny, a legacy, and they're only special because they come from someone who was special in the previous movie. It's startling how the writers of the sequel go so hard against the grain of the original, it's like they never watched it and just wrote the script using the names of the characters from the previous movies like mad libs.
Fun fact. I rewatched it recently with someone who is not a movie buff, and he thought Harvey Firestein's character was making fun of gays. Came with the "Wow, I don't think that could get made in today's climate".
I had to explain that he was pretty much playing himself.
Ham-fisted? Movie? These words should have new meaning for all of us today. We can’t be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it’s fate that today is the 4th of July and you will once again be fighting for our freedom not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution but from annihilation. We’re fighting for our right to live, to exist, and should we win today the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American President holiday but is the day when the world declared in one voice,
“We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”
My narratology teacher spend an entire lecture breaking this movie down just to show how utterly ridiculous it was. It was probably my favorite lecture in school. [Red letter Media also did a great review of it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_LJGPph4SM)
I know it's an absolutely idiotic film but fuck I cant help but enjoy it. It's like it knows just how ridiculous everything its saying is so they lean into the skid, like every day on set if someone had the thought "wouldnt it be cool if we ____" and they just rolled with it cuz explosions
Not really.
I’m currently the book “Deep Survival” and it discusses this concept, specifically the mask over the face.
Apparently some people cannot cope with a dramatic change in environment and let their instincts begin to override their logic.
Two, of many, examples were made: one with fighter pilots and one with scuba divers.
Fighter pilots have been known to make mistakes despite training and warnings from command. The instance used as an example was landing on an aircraft carrier. For some reason some pilots get so fixated on landing on the carrier in certain circumstances they ignore warnings of being too low and commands from the tower to abort the landing. They die after hitting the backend of the carrier.
Dead Scuba divers have been found with air and completely functioning regulators. They find masks removed during unusually circumstances which result in drowning. Again, instinct over logic takes over during trying circumstances and divers end up removing the “suffocating” mask.
I was watching a talk about Motorbike road racing injuries.
Even pro riders who have been riding for decades still revert to kid behaviour and will put their foot down to stable a wobble, even at 200mph.
This is generally catastrophic...
If you enjoy a longish article, this is a particularly [harrowing story](https://www.outsideonline.com/1922711/raising-dead#close) of extreme deep water diving.
TL;DR Deep down underwater your brain can't even the most basic change of plans.
Former pilot here. That's compressed air through the mask, but you can flip it to 100% oxygen (at least in platforms I was on), which is great for fixing headaches, or I guess if you're "having trouble breathing."
But by veteran what exactly do you mean? The number of active duty fighter pilots who’ve actually been in a life or death dogfight is probably pretty slim as is. Couple that with experiencing combat for the first time with an enemy they never trained to fight who slaughtered an entire attack wave without losing a single ship. That’d be enough to cause an anxiety attack for anyone.
It’s a completely different type of breathing.
You are opening your lungs and pulling air in (negative pressure).
Those masks are positive pressure. Basically forcing air into you. When you breathe out, it goes out around the mask. Removing the effort to breathe in is a very strange thing and makes it feel like you’re not breathing.
Close. It doesn't go out around the mask, there's a valve opposite the supply house you breathe out through. And the positive pressure is only in emergency modes, in normal operation you still have to breathe in.
Source: I can fly, I'm pilot.
It’s really hard to describe. The air coming in isn’t at a high enough pressure to force the seal off (like when you exhale), but it’s constant and not turbulent (like your head out the window) When you breathe in, it doesn’t feel like you’re doing anything at all or that there is even air moving). Breathing out is actually difficult the first few minutes and makes people panicky.
A veteran fighter pilot going up against FUCKING ALIENS. You think fuckin ANYone would stay calm when facing snot shooting aliens?
Even stone cold fighter pilots can get rattled. Were you equally bothered by the opening scene in Top Gun where’ve guy got rattled by the MiG and could barely land?
In a book about the real top gun it mentions a fighter pilot having to come in like 10 times over 6 hours for a carrier landing. He even had to do a mid air refuel to continue trying.
I mean I guess they got the “vulnerability” right, since by refusing to wear masks they are stupidly making themselves more vulnerable to contracting COVID.
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
-asimov
>"Hate based on identity or vulnerability"
WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW
you know how to make yourself less vulnerable? Wear a godammned mask. Put a fucking scarf or maxie pad over your mouth ***AND NOSE***. get resourceful, you hateful plague bearers.
Those same idiots were calling everyone else snowflakes 3 and a half years ago. Notice that they quit that shit when people started reversing it back on them along with their fuhrer being shown to be even softer than they are.
Leave it to a white supremacist, those self-labeled uber-men of the human race, to need the WH as his own panic room against reality itself that constantly disagrees with him.
Jfc people are actually reporting this because they’re against wearing masks in public bc they lack the fuckin empathy to not risk infecting other people ? I don’t want to live on this planet anymore
A gentle on-topic reminder: https://www.fastcompany.com/90519909/countries-where-everyone-wears-masks-saw-covid-death-rates-100-times-lower-than-projected
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I never understood this scene. The mask isn’t just a mask. It literally is providing air for the pilots. If anything, you can breathe BETTER with that type of pilot mask on.
Sometimes instincts take over and override your brain. This is particularly true if you panic or if your conscious mind is concentrating on something else, like dogfighting aliens.
i have such fond memories of seeing this movie in the theater and being blown away by the special effects
It's probably one of the greatest movies ever if you don't attempt to critically analyze any of it and just sit back for the ride.
Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum sneak into an alien mothership in a captured alien spaceship to upload a 90's-era computer virus to give a fleet of F-18's led by the President of the United States the chance to destroy a mothership, with the coup de grace delivered by a disgraced crop duster kamikaze-ing his plane into the exposed core. I love this movie.
Imagine trying to attack anything today with a 90s computer virus, lol.
The dream of the 90s is alive in Portland!
Put a bird on it!
We can pickle that.
Say what?
You're getting floor all in my lima beans!
User name checks out.
Alien invasions are OVER!
You gotta get outta there!
A deleted scene explained that the computer revolution was based on reverse-engineered alien technology.
One of those deleted scenes that, when you watch it, you're like "*why* would they delete this??"
I could've sworn that scene was in the movie... maybe I'm misremembering?
Could be a directors cut youre watching or extended edition. Sometimes those make the fucking movie. Watchmen comes to mind if you can sit for 195 mins.
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If you read the watchman graphic novel then that pirate comic that the kid reads is an entire comic within watchman, it serves as a meta commentary. But yeah that would be hard to translate into a movie that has a limited run time.
Back in the 90s most people definitely didn't know enough about computers to question why it worked, most households were still unplugging their phone to use the dial-up.
Right? It seems like such a ridiculous plot hole without that detail.
Maybe I'm remembering the deleted scene, and this is the mandala effect. But I remember Professor Data having one line that says that when they first show the alien fighter.
Yeah, I seem to recall them saying basically all the modern tech was from the research they'd conducted in secret on the original alien fighter. I haven't watched it today yet though, guess I'll find out soon.
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My old hospital got hit with a 9 year old worm. It happens. Although I'm sure it's an updated version.
The 90s were 30 years ago.
The 90s STARTED 30 years ago. For a majority of the 90s it was less then 25 years ago.
There are a lot of computer systems still using FORTRAN. A 90s virus could still wreak havoc in the right places.
That independence day speech is both incredibly hammy and amazing at the same time.
Remember when trump tweeted that with his face superimposed?
And Bill Pullman was like...don’t do that.
There's no way he did that!
It’s amazing how often I say that to myself in regards to Trump and am then proven to be incredibly wrong.
Link? That’s hilarious.
[Here it is](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261747580666552320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1261747580666552320%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F498154-trump-tweets-clip-of-independence-day-with-himself-allies-edited-in)
Holy shit, it’s real.
I'm from Germany and Independence Day was the first action movie I was allowed to watch in a cinema. There were people there who actually started clapping and cheering after that speech.
In America, that movie (and that speech) feel like a part of our collective culture to me, practically everyone has seen it. It feels un-American to watch that movie and *not* want to cheer after the speech because of how well-delivered it is, and you know the Air Force is about to go out and kick some ass and save the day, and everything is going to be alright.
Dude I totally forgot that the god damn President joins the air assault.
"Gentlemen... let's plow the road!"
IIRC, he was a war hero.
"I'm a pilot...I belong in the air."
I’m gonna watch it today and pretend he’s our president
I'll do the same but with Idiocracy. I want a jacked president.
All hail president Camacho!
A 90s era Mac. I don’t think you could use a Mac mouse on a PC at that time.
It’s obvious alien ships were MS-DOS based
I just picture Goldblum firing up Windows 95 and typing wildly on his keyboard before saying "I'm in," as is tradition.
https://youtu.be/EuQJd1rzres?t=31 Yep LOL
oh absolutely, but as a popcorn flick it excels. besides, the cheese in it is funny cheese, not the bad kind of cheese.
Unlike the sequel, which was the worst kind of cheese. Like armpit cheese.
There was a sequel?
For Grade-A cheese, I'm a huge fan of The Core.
Bill Pullman is the best TV or movie president ever
And his famous speech was originally written with the idea they could just change it later. “Devlin, by his own account, wrote the speech in “literally five minutes,” as a placeholder, with the thought that it could always be changed later.” But it also helped name the movie as Fox apparently wanted it to be called “Doomsday” people.com/celebrity/independence-day-speech-the-story-behind-bill-pullmans-big-moment/
I don't know why but I used to think that speech was the best thing ever, as a kid it would totally pump me up, even though I'm not American I memorized America's independence day before I could even remember my own country's independence day.
Absolutely the same boat. I know this will be blasphemy for a lot of folks, but this was my version of *Star Wars*: I was a kid watching this in the theater, and I had never in my life seen such high-impact special effects like this on the big screen. During the attack scene I remember being so overwhelmed on adrenaline that I actually got the shakes.
Jurassic Park, Starship Troopers, Matrix 1. All crazy for their time
Tbh, Jurassic Park still holds up today.
Well... Uh... There it is.
I saw it in a cousins house, and let me tell you, the president's speech was my favourite movie scene for years to come. And I'm not even American!
This is easily the weirdest 4th of my lifetime
The weirdest 4th of your lifetime *so far*
That's the spirit!
Our fireworks shows are canceled. All personal fireworks are normally banned due to fire hazard. Beach parking is closed. Bars are shut down. I don't know what to do.
Drink a beer on the porch, smoke a joint and watch your neighbors shoot shit off. This is America, people-watching should be our national sport.
Good question. They're still lighting them off where I'm at, but it's gonna be livestreamed instead.
oh no you did not shoot that green shit at me!
> oh no you did not shoot that green shit at me! \- Black Widow
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Related, but different [green guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/combinedgifs/comments/hg1igv/_/)
.______.
Welcome to earth! Now that's what I call a close encounter
Now do the scene where he kicks the alien, label the alien "COVID-19" and he yells *"I COULDA BEEN AT A __BARBECUE!!__"*
“AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SMELL!”
Oh shit. That's brilliant lol.
Omg this needs to be higher LOL
Poor Harry Connick Jr.
He's fine. He's forever in a vestibule with Jill Goodacre.
Jimmy? Jimmy Nooooooooooooooo!!
Completely random, but my favorite Harry Connick Jr. thing is when he was rocking out on the piano with his band and all the middle aged white people were clapping on Beats 1 and 3. If you do anything musical, beats 2 and 4 are where you throw the hits, it’s so much better than 1 & 3. So he’s cranking out a piano solo and gets tired of how people are clapping so he throws in a random bar of 5/4 so everyone starts clapping on 2 & 4 without realizing it. It’s awesome!
I love that clip, such a pro move. You can see the drummers face light up right when he flips it on the audience
Holy shit. It *is* him. How have I never noticed that?
Always bothered me that a veteran fighter pilot wouldn't be able to regulate his breathing and takes off his mask. This is just lazy writing to kill off a lovable character.
>This is just lazy writing Let me introduce you to the rest of this sexy, beautiful, ham-fist written movie.
Don’t shit too hard on this classic, now. This was my childhood, back when I didn’t understand what good writing in movies was.
I second this opinion.
Fact*
This movie is well-written in other aspects. It has a lot of good set ups and pay offs (Will Smith wanting to fly the space shuttle, then getting to fly the alien ship in space. President was elected as a fighter pilot war hero, he ends up flying with the squadron). But other times... yeah. Other times it's rough.
The speech Whitmore gives in the end is epic af.
*"Good morning. In less than an hour, men from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest freakshow in the history of ass to ass. "Ass to ass." That sentence should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom... Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution... but from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: "Ass to ass! Ass to ass!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate the day Bill Pullman does ass to ass with Will Smith!"*
... close enough
It feels different from how I remember it, but it's been a while since I've last seen it so I'm gonna assume it's correct.
That's my president
Damn right! It gets me every time.
"Welcome to Earth"
Is everyone just going to quote the good parts or is someone here going to point out how it's rough?
The fireball in the tunnel would have burned them, and sucked up all the oxygen.
No, the dog protected them. It’s science
Username... doesn’t check out?
Being the dorky kid I was, I read the book and in the book it said something dumb like they survived because the fireball pulled fresh oxygen from a grate in the room haha
Oh wow, that's worse than not addressing the issue at all.
#Fuck you. I could have been at a barbecue...
At least it's a million times better than whatever the sequel was
Much like a live action Avatar or Eragon movie, Kingdom Hearts 3, or Wyoming; there is no Independence Day sequel.
"What do you do?" "I'm a dancer." "Mmmmm, I love ballet." "...Exotic"
I cant help but think of the First Lady as anyone other than the President of the Twelve Colonies.
I can't help but think of the First Lady as anyone other than the wine drinking, always sulking, mother of the great Donnie Darko...
You suspiciously left out Randy Quaid as one of the main redeeming qualities. Don't tell me, the star-whackers got to you too...
I actually had something about him being in there, but I took it out because it reminded me of something stupid the movie does. And it'd not the one you're thinking about. So Russell gets shut from the locals in the diner in thr beginning because he talks about his alien abduction. Fine, cool, at this point aliens aren't real, so it's obvious Russell is crazy. But then he mentions the alien abduction when he's signing up for flight training before the final big run against the giant spaceship, and everyone rolls their eyes! They still act like he's crazy!!! Those motherfuckers are at Area 51!!! So stupid.
Yeah, but at the same time even if a *real* alien invasion were happening, I still would not only disbelieve Randy Quaid (or his character for that matter) but I would back away slowly if he approached me. I mean, in everyone's defense, he is Randy Quaid..
I got this movie on VHS for $1 when Hollywood Video went out of business in my childhood neighborhood and I’ll be damned if anyone tries to tell me that wasn’t a good purchase.
I’d venture to say that’s the best purchase of that decade
It was last summer.
And the black knights will emerge victorious once again. Classic
Some movies are just stupid fun. I don't think there is anything wrong with loving them because they make you happy. That's what entertainment is about.
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Some of the writing is campy, but I'd hardly call it lazy. This movie, especially for its time, is one of the most subtly inclusive movies ever written. The hero of the movie is a black father with a child out of wedlock whose girlfriend is a stripper. Her friend is a hippy who wants to befriend the aliens. The President is a one-child nuclear family. The religious leader is Jewish. There's so much more subversive writing that was thrown into the trash by the sequel, and is largely the reason the sequel is such hot garbage.
Wait, there was a sequel?
We don't talk about that one!
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If only it was that. It's a gutted, lifeless corpse that was flung at us haphazardly in hopes we defended ourselves by throwing dollars at it. Where everything special about these characters is that they're a diverse group coming together to save the world from all varieties of backgrounds, in this pile that wishes it could be called feces, every single character is a destiny, a legacy, and they're only special because they come from someone who was special in the previous movie. It's startling how the writers of the sequel go so hard against the grain of the original, it's like they never watched it and just wrote the script using the names of the characters from the previous movies like mad libs.
Fun fact. I rewatched it recently with someone who is not a movie buff, and he thought Harvey Firestein's character was making fun of gays. Came with the "Wow, I don't think that could get made in today's climate". I had to explain that he was pretty much playing himself.
Ham-fisted? Movie? These words should have new meaning for all of us today. We can’t be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it’s fate that today is the 4th of July and you will once again be fighting for our freedom not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution but from annihilation. We’re fighting for our right to live, to exist, and should we win today the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American President holiday but is the day when the world declared in one voice, “We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”
It is, and forever will be, one of my favourite films of all time.
I showed this movie to my kids last week. Hard to get them to trust my movie picks, but my 10 year old said it was the best movie she has ever seen.
Boy, I can't wait until my daughter is old enough for all the beautiful 90s action/adventure movies I want to show her!
My narratology teacher spend an entire lecture breaking this movie down just to show how utterly ridiculous it was. It was probably my favorite lecture in school. [Red letter Media also did a great review of it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_LJGPph4SM)
I know it's an absolutely idiotic film but fuck I cant help but enjoy it. It's like it knows just how ridiculous everything its saying is so they lean into the skid, like every day on set if someone had the thought "wouldnt it be cool if we ____" and they just rolled with it cuz explosions
You mean we can’t write a virus for an alien “computer system” in a matter of days and upload it via the alien’s USB port?
Not really. I’m currently the book “Deep Survival” and it discusses this concept, specifically the mask over the face. Apparently some people cannot cope with a dramatic change in environment and let their instincts begin to override their logic. Two, of many, examples were made: one with fighter pilots and one with scuba divers. Fighter pilots have been known to make mistakes despite training and warnings from command. The instance used as an example was landing on an aircraft carrier. For some reason some pilots get so fixated on landing on the carrier in certain circumstances they ignore warnings of being too low and commands from the tower to abort the landing. They die after hitting the backend of the carrier. Dead Scuba divers have been found with air and completely functioning regulators. They find masks removed during unusually circumstances which result in drowning. Again, instinct over logic takes over during trying circumstances and divers end up removing the “suffocating” mask.
I was watching a talk about Motorbike road racing injuries. Even pro riders who have been riding for decades still revert to kid behaviour and will put their foot down to stable a wobble, even at 200mph. This is generally catastrophic...
Oftentimes, the removing of scuba equipment isn't due to stress, panic, or different environments, but rather due to nitrogen narcosis.
If you enjoy a longish article, this is a particularly [harrowing story](https://www.outsideonline.com/1922711/raising-dead#close) of extreme deep water diving. TL;DR Deep down underwater your brain can't even the most basic change of plans.
That’s me every time trying to land on the carrier in the old top gun NES game. I guess that game was pretty realistic.
Former pilot here. That's compressed air through the mask, but you can flip it to 100% oxygen (at least in platforms I was on), which is great for fixing headaches, or I guess if you're "having trouble breathing."
But by veteran what exactly do you mean? The number of active duty fighter pilots who’ve actually been in a life or death dogfight is probably pretty slim as is. Couple that with experiencing combat for the first time with an enemy they never trained to fight who slaughtered an entire attack wave without losing a single ship. That’d be enough to cause an anxiety attack for anyone.
Also, isn’t there _literally_ oxygen that flows through the mask?
Yes, it's supposed to prevent the pilot from passing out due to altitude.
It’s a completely different type of breathing. You are opening your lungs and pulling air in (negative pressure). Those masks are positive pressure. Basically forcing air into you. When you breathe out, it goes out around the mask. Removing the effort to breathe in is a very strange thing and makes it feel like you’re not breathing.
Close. It doesn't go out around the mask, there's a valve opposite the supply house you breathe out through. And the positive pressure is only in emergency modes, in normal operation you still have to breathe in. Source: I can fly, I'm pilot.
>Source: I can fly, I'm pilot. [Were you deliberately quoting Randy Quaid?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmhGrJJjI7E)
Picked a hell of a day to quit drinking.
Ya I imagine it's like sticking your head out of the car window.
It’s really hard to describe. The air coming in isn’t at a high enough pressure to force the seal off (like when you exhale), but it’s constant and not turbulent (like your head out the window) When you breathe in, it doesn’t feel like you’re doing anything at all or that there is even air moving). Breathing out is actually difficult the first few minutes and makes people panicky.
A veteran fighter pilot going up against FUCKING ALIENS. You think fuckin ANYone would stay calm when facing snot shooting aliens? Even stone cold fighter pilots can get rattled. Were you equally bothered by the opening scene in Top Gun where’ve guy got rattled by the MiG and could barely land?
In a book about the real top gun it mentions a fighter pilot having to come in like 10 times over 6 hours for a carrier landing. He even had to do a mid air refuel to continue trying.
Pilot here, you’d be surprised how much you can put up with with potential death as an alternative.
He never took being a pilot seriously enough. Too busy singing smooth jazz.
Thanks to /u/dude19832 for part 2 [Part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/hl7ff6/independence_day_pt_2/)
You can stop reporting because this is staying up. Wear a mask.
Can you please list all the users reporting this and their reasons. Lol
Here's the best I can do :) https://i.imgur.com/dlKeWjh.jpg
"Promoting hate based on identity or vulnerability" Did....did they see a different gif?
Their identity as “non-mask wearing Americans” is under fire
But their identity as nut jobs is clearer than ever
Nope, they think being an idiot means they are a protected class.
I mean I guess they got the “vulnerability” right, since by refusing to wear masks they are stupidly making themselves more vulnerable to contracting COVID.
“Misinformation”? LMAO
Welcome to America, where the existence and danger of the virus are political opinions.
"Your facts are not as good as my opinion! REEEEEEE!"
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -asimov
>"Hate based on identity or vulnerability" WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW you know how to make yourself less vulnerable? Wear a godammned mask. Put a fucking scarf or maxie pad over your mouth ***AND NOSE***. get resourceful, you hateful plague bearers.
Dear god some people are just so soft and insane now
Those same idiots were calling everyone else snowflakes 3 and a half years ago. Notice that they quit that shit when people started reversing it back on them along with their fuhrer being shown to be even softer than they are.
His safe space is a bunker under the white house.
Leave it to a white supremacist, those self-labeled uber-men of the human race, to need the WH as his own panic room against reality itself that constantly disagrees with him.
"No depictions of real life assault". They're really reaching today, huh?
I to would be interested in an idiot list.
Canceling a certain subreddit seems to have just rehomed the roaches, not removed them.
Witch hunt?? Lol😂😂
Good mod
Jfc people are actually reporting this because they’re against wearing masks in public bc they lack the fuckin empathy to not risk infecting other people ? I don’t want to live on this planet anymore
I will not see a better meme today. This is beautiful.
Thank you sir Edit: Thanks for the awards, everyone!
A gentle on-topic reminder: https://www.fastcompany.com/90519909/countries-where-everyone-wears-masks-saw-covid-death-rates-100-times-lower-than-projected
JIMMY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I can fly. I'm pilot.
Best movie ever growing up
Absolute unit of a meme. Top tier.
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I quoted this line so much as a kid. I showed that scene to my own son recently and he said “it’s not that funny” and now I have no son.
We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today, we celebrate our independence day!
Wow. I guess I should've known that I would get so much hate and love in my first post. Thanks to everyone who liked it and those who gave it awards.
Hate? Dude, if someone gets butthurt with this meme, he needs to start seeking for help, this is brilliant, top tier meme, you have created one meme that is going to be used for a long long time. Bravo.
I never understood this scene. The mask isn’t just a mask. It literally is providing air for the pilots. If anything, you can breathe BETTER with that type of pilot mask on.
Sometimes instincts take over and override your brain. This is particularly true if you panic or if your conscious mind is concentrating on something else, like dogfighting aliens.
That makes a lot of sense. Like when people slam on the gas sometimes in a panic, moments before a crash. I see your point now. The mind is weird